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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18366 Posts
July 19 2020 15:56 GMT
#2161
Best entertainment all day: watching Smix spinning a pen.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10121 Posts
July 19 2020 15:56 GMT
#2162
"Fuck"
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
July 19 2020 15:57 GMT
#2163
Wow Smix just went for it
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 19 2020 15:57 GMT
#2164
On July 20 2020 00:53 ytherik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2020 00:49 Ej_ wrote:
On July 20 2020 00:44 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On July 20 2020 00:43 fastr wrote:
On July 20 2020 00:36 mouzHeroMarine wrote:
On July 20 2020 00:32 sneakyfox wrote:
On July 20 2020 00:30 Aeromi wrote:
On July 20 2020 00:28 Luolis wrote:
What servers will Serral vs Cure be played on?

Central because Finland is eastern europe


So it's different from the group stage? Weren't Inno v Serral alternating west and central?

Actually, Central all games between Cure and Serral is wrong.
For Serral vs Cure, they switch Server between Central and West each game (not sure if it's C W C W C or W C W C W)
To clarify the entire server question:
The rules say the Default Server for KR vs EU West is NA West.
However, I am pretty sure most Koreans agreed to alternate between West and Central when a Korean was up against a Western European which is the fairest. On the other side, Trap applied the rule to force me and Reynor to play all games on NA West for the playoffs which is ~135-140ms for Trap and ~175ms for me/Reynor.


Thanks for clarifying.

I always think it's stupid to leave that choice to the players because if you're the Korean in that situation, you either have to decide to play on worse conditions out of "fair play" or choose what's best for you and look like an asshole.
Servers should just be alternating for everyone.


Always alternating favours Western Europeans over Koreans in most cases.

If playing every game on West favors Koreans, and every game on Central—Europeans, then, by the intermediate value theorem, there exists a number x of games on West in an N-game series, such that N-x is the number of games on Central and the pairing is fair.
Clearly, the right method is to take the integer closest to x .


That's if we assume the advantage Koreans get on West equals the advantage Europeans get on Central, which doesn't always seem to be the case, so alternating may not always be the fairest option.

This is wrong. As long as one side has any kind of advantage for 1 server setup and the other ANY kind of advantage for another server setup, there exists a server setup that is completely fair. Again, this is by the intermediate value theorem, which means that the "fair" server setup might involve a game that is not "whole" (for example, 3.35 games on West in a bo7), but it is also the best way to find the closest to optimal setup (in my example, 3 games on West and 4 on Central).
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
July 19 2020 15:57 GMT
#2165
Casters are losing it .

Honestly though I'm really glad I'm not in their shoes right now.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
July 19 2020 15:57 GMT
#2166
This stream would be classed Mature in the US, suitable for children in EU
AdministratorBreak the chains
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
July 19 2020 15:57 GMT
#2167
Why is this taking so long. Its already so late in Korea
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
July 19 2020 15:58 GMT
#2168
Playing: Just Chatting
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
July 19 2020 15:58 GMT
#2169
On July 20 2020 00:51 Acrofales wrote:
Serral banned Eternal Empire over Submarine? Weird.


Another failed all in inc.
That's one free win game for Cure, I'd bet on him if I have money to lose.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14462 Posts
July 19 2020 15:58 GMT
#2170
On July 20 2020 00:57 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Why is this taking so long. Its already so late in Korea

Tech issue
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
July 19 2020 15:58 GMT
#2171
On July 20 2020 00:58 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2020 00:51 Acrofales wrote:
Serral banned Eternal Empire over Submarine? Weird.


Another failed all in inc.
That's one free win game for Cure, I'd bet on him if I have money to lose.

Money to lose or not, don't bet on Starcraft games.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-19 15:59:07
July 19 2020 15:58 GMT
#2172
Aeromi is now using weighted average and the intermediate value theorem to find how many times Cure and Serral will play on Central and West, that's why it's taking so long.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
July 19 2020 15:59 GMT
#2173
I'm going to prepare dinner, guaranteed to make the game start.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14462 Posts
July 19 2020 15:59 GMT
#2174
On July 20 2020 00:58 Ej_ wrote:
Aeromi is now using weighted average and the intermediate value theorem to find how many times Cure and Serral will play on Central and West, that's why it's taking so long.

Aeromi is happy not to have to deal with (rude) players and sell esport for a living
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28535 Posts
July 19 2020 15:59 GMT
#2175
On July 20 2020 00:59 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
I'm going to prepare dinner, guaranteed to make the game start.

Thanks!
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6120 Posts
July 19 2020 16:00 GMT
#2176
Ffs just start the game. No one cares about the cam.

It's always so late in Korea..
#1 Terran hater
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
July 19 2020 16:01 GMT
#2177
Disappointed Serral isn't pulling the shitty ravager build
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 19 2020 16:02 GMT
#2178
On July 20 2020 00:58 Ej_ wrote:
Aeromi is now using weighted average and the intermediate value theorem to find how many times Cure and Serral will play on Central and West, that's why it's taking so long.


The alternative is to install throttling software to slow them both down to have an exactly equally miserable experience on every map.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8217 Posts
July 19 2020 16:02 GMT
#2179
On July 20 2020 01:01 Nakajin wrote:
Disappointed Serral isn't pulling the shitty ravager build


Disappointed we don't get to see their faces
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18366 Posts
July 19 2020 16:02 GMT
#2180
Zergling gives his life to save the creep tumor. Hero ling.
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