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Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
June 25 2020 18:02 GMT
#21
Which stream showed Serral vs Hellraiser?
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 25 2020 18:10 GMT
#22
Blink DTs for the win.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8217 Posts
June 25 2020 18:11 GMT
#23
https://mobile.twitter.com/Reynor02/status/1276193067423469569
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
June 25 2020 19:02 GMT
#24
Poor Soul, I felt like he played very well but serral was quite impressive.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
June 25 2020 19:07 GMT
#25
This is the funkiest format ever, I feel as confused as when browsing old GSL tournaments.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 25 2020 19:20 GMT
#26
On June 26 2020 04:07 Argonauta wrote:
This is the funkiest format ever, I feel as confused as when browsing old GSL tournaments.


There's nothing funky about round robin. It's the scheduling that's more challenging.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
June 25 2020 19:40 GMT
#27
On June 26 2020 04:20 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2020 04:07 Argonauta wrote:
This is the funkiest format ever, I feel as confused as when browsing old GSL tournaments.


There's nothing funky about round robin. It's the scheduling that's more challenging.


yes the round robin itself its not funky, the scheduling is. Then the fact that korea doesnt have round robin, but seeds and play ins?

And also, weren't koreans region locked?
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 25 2020 19:54 GMT
#28
On June 26 2020 04:40 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2020 04:20 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On June 26 2020 04:07 Argonauta wrote:
This is the funkiest format ever, I feel as confused as when browsing old GSL tournaments.


There's nothing funky about round robin. It's the scheduling that's more challenging.


yes the round robin itself its not funky, the scheduling is. Then the fact that korea doesnt have round robin, but seeds and play ins?

And also, weren't koreans region locked?


The seeding process is the same. Just Europe gets four seeds from this event, whereas Korea gets six seeds from GSL.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
June 25 2020 20:04 GMT
#29
not a fan of the format so far honestly. Couldn't something closer to the GSL format have worked fine ?
ChaosArcher
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany956 Posts
June 25 2020 21:55 GMT
#30
On June 26 2020 05:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:
not a fan of the format so far honestly. Couldn't something closer to the GSL format have worked fine ?


Agreed. Playing out the group stages over so many days kills the hype.
But I am still looking forward to the bracket stage of EU. The scene has developed in a way where the top 8 of EU is so far above everyone else that the group stages feel a bit pointless regardless of the format.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55593 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-26 08:27:14
June 26 2020 06:27 GMT
#31
On June 26 2020 05:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:
not a fan of the format so far honestly. Couldn't something closer to the GSL format have worked fine ?

I like the variety, not every tournament should be GSL style. That said the schedule is wonky and kind of hard to follow. Maybe just do the groups in order next time. Or like 2 matches per group a day instead of the mix and match.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7379 Posts
June 26 2020 07:18 GMT
#32
GSL groups also have way more upset potential which make them so much more interesting IMO
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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-26 08:32:44
June 26 2020 08:22 GMT
#33
I like Round Robin Groups and I like that they play out over a longer time and not the entire Group in one or two days.

E: also Skillous still seems to struggle quite a bit under pressure

I hope he finds his NationWars form in time for his other group stage matches..
MaxPax
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
June 26 2020 15:02 GMT
#34
I'm also disappointed about the format and scheduling. It's way too long and not really intuitive.
rly ?
Legan
Profile Joined June 2017
Finland585 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-26 15:26:42
June 26 2020 15:26 GMT
#35
I like the format because playing only 2 games and dropping out in GSL-like groups is not really showing a player's abilities. Especially when the group can easily have 1 or even 2 players that are pretty sure to get out. Bigger round-robin groups give everyone a better opportunity to show their skill. Simply generally seeding matters less in bigger groups.

The schedule could be better. Maybe every day has games only from two groups and 4 games from a group per a day. This would also give one whole day to prepare between matches. The issue of being lower prestige per match than in GSL-like groups is harder to solve and would probably require more marketing to raise interest in each match.
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sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
June 26 2020 15:26 GMT
#36
Harstem really needs to turn this around, especially with so many pvps coming up (and a tough match against big gabe)
Year of MaxPax
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
June 26 2020 15:40 GMT
#37
On June 27 2020 00:26 Legan wrote:
I like the format because playing only 2 games and dropping out in GSL-like groups is not really showing a player's abilities. Especially when the group can easily have 1 or even 2 players that are pretty sure to get out. Bigger round-robin groups give everyone a better opportunity to show their skill. Simply generally seeding matters less in bigger groups.

The schedule could be better. Maybe every day has games only from two groups and 4 games from a group per a day. This would also give one whole day to prepare between matches. The issue of being lower prestige per match than in GSL-like groups is harder to solve and would probably require more marketing to raise interest in each match.

Valid point, this format gives up and coming players much MUCH more visibility which is great in the long run because it gives them an incentive to keep on playing and putting efforts into getting better. But from an entertainment point of view i'd rather see the best players get to play each other as soon as possible instead of watching Ziggy and Gerald fighting each other in a quite low stake BO3.
rly ?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55593 Posts
June 26 2020 15:54 GMT
#38
On June 27 2020 00:40 algue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2020 00:26 Legan wrote:
I like the format because playing only 2 games and dropping out in GSL-like groups is not really showing a player's abilities. Especially when the group can easily have 1 or even 2 players that are pretty sure to get out. Bigger round-robin groups give everyone a better opportunity to show their skill. Simply generally seeding matters less in bigger groups.

The schedule could be better. Maybe every day has games only from two groups and 4 games from a group per a day. This would also give one whole day to prepare between matches. The issue of being lower prestige per match than in GSL-like groups is harder to solve and would probably require more marketing to raise interest in each match.

Valid point, this format gives up and coming players much MUCH more visibility which is great in the long run because it gives them an incentive to keep on playing and putting efforts into getting better. But from an entertainment point of view i'd rather see the best players get to play each other as soon as possible instead of watching Ziggy and Gerald fighting each other in a quite low stake BO3.

The best players will meet in the playoffs. Let the others have their time in the limelight. Most of these people would have never seen a WCS main stream.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18428 Posts
June 26 2020 16:16 GMT
#39
Grant and Creighton Olsen are really bad. Also, wtf is Creighton trying to brag about trying to get people to call Clem Napoleon. Dafuq?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
June 26 2020 16:40 GMT
#40
what a slug fest
I Protoss winner, could it be?
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