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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
July 12 2020 19:58 GMT
#1581
I am lowkey worried for Serral's ZvZ games in DouYu Cup; these maps and meta surely fit the koreans more.
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7184 Posts
July 12 2020 19:58 GMT
#1582
Reynor is always good vs Serral, which shouldn't surprise anyone. I think he will have a hard time vs any korean tho
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
July 12 2020 19:59 GMT
#1583
On July 13 2020 04:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2020 04:55 Z3nith wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:53 stilt wrote:
We're speaking about Clem's rise but Reynor has improved a lot lately, he seems better than Serral in every match up.

agree

I'd even say he's the favorite entering the season finals


It'll be interesting to see how he fares against Maru and PartinG, two players who are very much capable of outmicroing him.

Maru is the other favorite but we've seen much less of him lately

But imo those two are the hottest sc2 players right now


Maru did 3-0 Dark to get to the finals. Also I can see him struggling against both Inno and TY.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
July 12 2020 19:59 GMT
#1584
On July 13 2020 04:59 Z3nith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2020 04:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:55 Z3nith wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:53 stilt wrote:
We're speaking about Clem's rise but Reynor has improved a lot lately, he seems better than Serral in every match up.

agree

I'd even say he's the favorite entering the season finals


It'll be interesting to see how he fares against Maru and PartinG, two players who are very much capable of outmicroing him.

Maru is the other favorite but we've seen much less of him lately

But imo those two are the hottest sc2 players right now


Maru did 3-0 Dark to get to the finals. Also I can see him struggling against both Inno and TY.

It was a 3-2 but fair enough
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7304 Posts
July 12 2020 20:00 GMT
#1585
On July 13 2020 04:57 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2020 04:56 Harris1st wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:53 stilt wrote:
We're speaking about Clem's rise but Reynor has improved a lot lately, he seems better than Serral in every match up.


Don't forget Serral was still the one from the upper bracket.

But it is nice that we have now 2 European powerhouses


Reynor has won over Serral multiple times tho? How is this something new?


Reynor did manage to sneak a few wins from Serral but his play in general was far below Serral, specially with Korean competition
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-12 20:00:29
July 12 2020 20:00 GMT
#1586
On July 13 2020 04:59 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2020 04:59 Z3nith wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:55 Z3nith wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:53 stilt wrote:
We're speaking about Clem's rise but Reynor has improved a lot lately, he seems better than Serral in every match up.

agree

I'd even say he's the favorite entering the season finals


It'll be interesting to see how he fares against Maru and PartinG, two players who are very much capable of outmicroing him.

Maru is the other favorite but we've seen much less of him lately

But imo those two are the hottest sc2 players right now


Maru did 3-0 Dark to get to the finals. Also I can see him struggling against both Inno and TY.

It was a 3-2 but fair enough


Oh was it? I stand corrected.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
July 12 2020 20:00 GMT
#1587
On July 13 2020 04:58 Luolis wrote:
Reynor is always good vs Serral, which shouldn't surprise anyone. I think he will have a hard time vs any korean tho


Reynor never trampled Serral this way. The last time Reynor looked this strong he took korean heads left and right at HSC, it would be surprising to see struggle against them next week.
whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
July 12 2020 20:00 GMT
#1588
Season Finals gonna be so good, can't wait... just 3 days!

When will we know groups composition?
NUTELLA y u no make me skinny?!?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
July 12 2020 20:01 GMT
#1589
On July 13 2020 04:58 Luolis wrote:
Reynor is always good vs Serral, which shouldn't surprise anyone. I think he will have a hard time vs any korean tho

It's not really about Reynor beating Serral head-to-head though, it's about Reynor looking better than Serral across the board this tournament.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
July 12 2020 20:01 GMT
#1590
Indeed, koreans vs Serral/Raynor will be dope. Kinda hate when in a region lock Europe only tournaments the casters dare to say the two best sc2 players of the world.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8217 Posts
July 12 2020 20:01 GMT
#1591
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7184 Posts
July 12 2020 20:01 GMT
#1592
On July 13 2020 05:00 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2020 04:58 Luolis wrote:
Reynor is always good vs Serral, which shouldn't surprise anyone. I think he will have a hard time vs any korean tho


Reynor never trampled Serral this way. The last time Reynor looked this strong he took korean heads left and right at HSC, it would be surprising to see struggle against them next week.

Considering he lost to Serral earlier this tournament, i wouldn't consider this to be too telling.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-12 20:02:45
July 12 2020 20:01 GMT
#1593
On July 13 2020 05:00 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2020 04:58 Luolis wrote:
Reynor is always good vs Serral, which shouldn't surprise anyone. I think he will have a hard time vs any korean tho


Reynor never trampled Serral this way. The last time Reynor looked this strong he took korean heads left and right at HSC, it would be surprising to see struggle against them next week.

You think it'd be surprising to see him struggle against 6 of the top 8 players of GSL? He's surely not gonna have an easy time.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-12 20:03:31
July 12 2020 20:03 GMT
#1594
On July 13 2020 04:58 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2020 04:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:55 Z3nith wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:53 stilt wrote:
We're speaking about Clem's rise but Reynor has improved a lot lately, he seems better than Serral in every match up.

agree

I'd even say he's the favorite entering the season finals


It'll be interesting to see how he fares against Maru and PartinG, two players who are very much capable of outmicroing him.

Maru is the other favorite but we've seen much less of him lately

But imo those two are the hottest sc2 players right now


You don't think a single player from the GSL top 4 is hot right now, let alone the champion himself?

I dunno. I think PartinG's run was kinda miraculous and I actually don't see him perform very well now in the season finals now that the impact of his 4 gate blink has faded. Cure looked so-so after a difficult to swallow loss, sometimes still extremely good, sometimes quite off. TY... well has not played seriously since he won the GSL, I mean he lost vs Bly and Armani. As for INno, yeah his mech is dangerous, but I don't know, he didn't look really incredible to me either. Honestly I really think Reynor and Maru enter this as favorites. Then again, maybe TY or INno comes up extremely sharp and prepared and crushes everybody, but I haven't got anything to support that theory.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-12 20:05:59
July 12 2020 20:05 GMT
#1595
On July 13 2020 05:01 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2020 05:00 Xain0n wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:58 Luolis wrote:
Reynor is always good vs Serral, which shouldn't surprise anyone. I think he will have a hard time vs any korean tho


Reynor never trampled Serral this way. The last time Reynor looked this strong he took korean heads left and right at HSC, it would be surprising to see struggle against them next week.

You think it'd be surprising to see him struggle against 6 of the top 8 players of GSL? He's surely not gonna have an easy time.


Without any doubt.
I don't expect him to beat them all, but I expect him to play well and make a very strong showing; Reynor might as well win, even if I don't see him as the favourite.

Also, Dream is better than Clem at TvT while Clem is better at TvZ; I think Clem is better overall.
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2660 Posts
July 12 2020 20:06 GMT
#1596
On July 13 2020 05:03 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2020 04:58 sneakyfox wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:55 Z3nith wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:53 stilt wrote:
We're speaking about Clem's rise but Reynor has improved a lot lately, he seems better than Serral in every match up.

agree

I'd even say he's the favorite entering the season finals


It'll be interesting to see how he fares against Maru and PartinG, two players who are very much capable of outmicroing him.

Maru is the other favorite but we've seen much less of him lately

But imo those two are the hottest sc2 players right now


You don't think a single player from the GSL top 4 is hot right now, let alone the champion himself?

I dunno. I think PartinG's run was kinda miraculous and I actually don't see him perform very well now in the season finals now that the impact of his 4 gate blink has faded. Cure looked so-so after a difficult to swallow loss, sometimes still extremely good, sometimes quite off. TY... well has not played seriously since he won the GSL, I mean he lost vs Bly and Armani. As for INno, yeah his mech is dangerous, but I don't know, he didn't look really incredible to me either. Honestly I really think Reynor and Maru enter this as favorites. Then again, maybe TY or INno comes up extremely sharp and prepared and crushes everybody, but I haven't got anything to support that theory.


Maru sucks at international and weekenders, TY and Inno have a much better chance than people give them.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-12 20:08:23
July 12 2020 20:07 GMT
#1597
On July 13 2020 05:03 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2020 04:58 sneakyfox wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:55 Z3nith wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:53 stilt wrote:
We're speaking about Clem's rise but Reynor has improved a lot lately, he seems better than Serral in every match up.

agree

I'd even say he's the favorite entering the season finals


It'll be interesting to see how he fares against Maru and PartinG, two players who are very much capable of outmicroing him.

Maru is the other favorite but we've seen much less of him lately

But imo those two are the hottest sc2 players right now


You don't think a single player from the GSL top 4 is hot right now, let alone the champion himself?

I dunno. I think PartinG's run was kinda miraculous and I actually don't see him perform very well now in the season finals now that the impact of his 4 gate blink has faded. Cure looked so-so after a difficult to swallow loss, sometimes still extremely good, sometimes quite off. TY... well has not played seriously since he won the GSL, I mean he lost vs Bly and Armani. As for INno, yeah his mech is dangerous, but I don't know, he didn't look really incredible to me either. Honestly I really think Reynor and Maru enter this as favorites. Then again, maybe TY or INno comes up extremely sharp and prepared and crushes everybody, but I haven't got anything to support that theory.

Last I heard PartinG is very confident against Terran. I think as per usual for Protoss, the Zerg players as well as the other Protoss players will be more worrying for him.

Also you have the least to go off for Maru but you rate him the highest
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33651 Posts
July 12 2020 20:07 GMT
#1598
lame, the soul shoutout is a mainstream joke now

time to excise it from TL previews
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
July 12 2020 20:08 GMT
#1599
On July 13 2020 05:06 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2020 05:03 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:58 sneakyfox wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:55 Z3nith wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:53 stilt wrote:
We're speaking about Clem's rise but Reynor has improved a lot lately, he seems better than Serral in every match up.

agree

I'd even say he's the favorite entering the season finals


It'll be interesting to see how he fares against Maru and PartinG, two players who are very much capable of outmicroing him.

Maru is the other favorite but we've seen much less of him lately

But imo those two are the hottest sc2 players right now


You don't think a single player from the GSL top 4 is hot right now, let alone the champion himself?

I dunno. I think PartinG's run was kinda miraculous and I actually don't see him perform very well now in the season finals now that the impact of his 4 gate blink has faded. Cure looked so-so after a difficult to swallow loss, sometimes still extremely good, sometimes quite off. TY... well has not played seriously since he won the GSL, I mean he lost vs Bly and Armani. As for INno, yeah his mech is dangerous, but I don't know, he didn't look really incredible to me either. Honestly I really think Reynor and Maru enter this as favorites. Then again, maybe TY or INno comes up extremely sharp and prepared and crushes everybody, but I haven't got anything to support that theory.


Maru sucks at international and weekenders, TY and Inno have a much better chance than people give them.

This and the fact that this is going to be played with ping, which annoys Maru very much, are definitely good points. But I can't say TY is the favorite with no result to back it up since the GSL finals.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-12 20:09:37
July 12 2020 20:09 GMT
#1600
On July 13 2020 05:07 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2020 05:03 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:58 sneakyfox wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:56 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:55 Z3nith wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:53 stilt wrote:
We're speaking about Clem's rise but Reynor has improved a lot lately, he seems better than Serral in every match up.

agree

I'd even say he's the favorite entering the season finals


It'll be interesting to see how he fares against Maru and PartinG, two players who are very much capable of outmicroing him.

Maru is the other favorite but we've seen much less of him lately

But imo those two are the hottest sc2 players right now


You don't think a single player from the GSL top 4 is hot right now, let alone the champion himself?

I dunno. I think PartinG's run was kinda miraculous and I actually don't see him perform very well now in the season finals now that the impact of his 4 gate blink has faded. Cure looked so-so after a difficult to swallow loss, sometimes still extremely good, sometimes quite off. TY... well has not played seriously since he won the GSL, I mean he lost vs Bly and Armani. As for INno, yeah his mech is dangerous, but I don't know, he didn't look really incredible to me either. Honestly I really think Reynor and Maru enter this as favorites. Then again, maybe TY or INno comes up extremely sharp and prepared and crushes everybody, but I haven't got anything to support that theory.

Last I heard PartinG is very confident against Terran. I think as per usual for Protoss, the Zerg players as well as the other Protoss players will be more worrying for him.

Also you have the least to go off for Maru but you rate him the highest

don't agree. He beats Dark while TY loses to Solar, Armani and freakin Bly (I know that last series means zilch, but still)
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