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On May 13 2020 20:13 DieuCure wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2020 20:11 Ej_ wrote:On May 13 2020 20:09 Morbidius wrote:On May 13 2020 20:04 Ej_ wrote:On May 13 2020 20:02 Fango wrote:On May 13 2020 20:01 Elentos wrote:On May 13 2020 19:59 DieuCure wrote:On May 13 2020 19:57 Elentos wrote:On May 13 2020 19:53 Morbidius wrote:On May 13 2020 19:48 BerserkSword wrote:
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Byun is the Terran version of Parting
Parting is the micro GOAT Micro GOAT can't win a GSL? ByuN needed a heavily Terran favored meta to win GSL too. It's not like being the best at micro makes a GSL win easy. The meta was basically him. Yes, Terran didn't win everything. But the Koreans were unanimous about saying that Zerg was shit and Terran strong. Does literally anyone think zerg wasn't trash in 2016? Why it rarely gets brought up confuses me Because it is the Terran players who are most vocal about the game when they do not win 7 GSLs in a row. Dark had the best results overall in 2016, Zerg definitely wasn't trash. Maru won 4 GSLs in a row and people still yapped about it being bad for Terran though? He was the only one Terran reaching finals. Be serious please.
Contrary to Zergs dominating the GSL :D?
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On May 13 2020 20:13 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2020 20:09 neutralrobot wrote:On May 13 2020 19:57 Fango wrote:On May 13 2020 19:54 neutralrobot wrote:On May 13 2020 19:52 Fango wrote:On May 13 2020 19:50 neutralrobot wrote:On May 13 2020 19:47 Morbidius wrote:On May 13 2020 19:45 Fuell wrote:
Godly micro, not one forcefield misplaced. I wonder how many top protoss could pull that off so slickly. None, Parting is the Protoss version of Byun. I've said it before, but at his peak, Parting had the best micro of all time. It's between him and Maru, but then people will bring up that PartinG always beat Maru back in the day  Yeah, that's the thing. Parting would consistently beat Maru on the strength of his micro. The difference might have seemed tiny sometimes, but it was usually enough. But then you look at the difference in playing TvP vs PvT. What Maru was doing was completely impossible for any other terran, while what PartinG was doing was just better than his fellow protoss. Hmm... I'm not sure I understand the distinction you're making. Parting worked the immortal+sentry micro in ways that literally no other protoss player could, for example. Why is that different from Maru doing things nobody else could? Fango is a guy who called Rain a cheesy Protoss. Do not expect him to remember Parting beating Terrans with his first 3 units while boasting 92% PvT winrste for 6 months
For real, Rain as far as i remember started to cheese once he got caught he only macroes and got hard countered
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On May 13 2020 20:10 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2020 20:09 neutralrobot wrote:On May 13 2020 19:57 Fango wrote:On May 13 2020 19:54 neutralrobot wrote:On May 13 2020 19:52 Fango wrote:On May 13 2020 19:50 neutralrobot wrote:On May 13 2020 19:47 Morbidius wrote:On May 13 2020 19:45 Fuell wrote:
Godly micro, not one forcefield misplaced. I wonder how many top protoss could pull that off so slickly. None, Parting is the Protoss version of Byun. I've said it before, but at his peak, Parting had the best micro of all time. It's between him and Maru, but then people will bring up that PartinG always beat Maru back in the day Yeah, that's the thing. Parting would consistently beat Maru on the strength of his micro. The difference might have seemed tiny sometimes, but it was usually enough. But then you look at the difference in playing TvP vs PvT. What Maru was doing was completely impossible for any other terran, while what PartinG was doing was just better than his fellow protoss. Hmm... I'm not sure I understand the distinction you're making. Parting worked the immortal+sentry micro in ways that literally no other protoss player could, for example. Why is that different from Maru doing things nobody else could? Maru was the madlad who fought colossi without Vikings. Not the puny LotV colossi, the chad HotS ones.
Current colossus 2 shots marines, they're actually pretty stronk.
Of course, the more important function of the colossus is that it causes the Terran to make bad units aka vikings.
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On May 13 2020 20:12 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2020 20:09 Morbidius wrote:On May 13 2020 20:04 Ej_ wrote:On May 13 2020 20:02 Fango wrote:On May 13 2020 20:01 Elentos wrote:On May 13 2020 19:59 DieuCure wrote:On May 13 2020 19:57 Elentos wrote:On May 13 2020 19:53 Morbidius wrote:On May 13 2020 19:48 BerserkSword wrote:On May 13 2020 19:47 Morbidius wrote:
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None, Parting is the Protoss version of Byun. Byun is the Terran version of Parting Parting is the micro GOAT Micro GOAT can't win a GSL? ByuN needed a heavily Terran favored meta to win GSL too. It's not like being the best at micro makes a GSL win easy. The meta was basically him. Yes, Terran didn't win everything. But the Koreans were unanimous about saying that Zerg was shit and Terran strong. Does literally anyone think zerg wasn't trash in 2016? Why it rarely gets brought up confuses me Because it is the Terran players who are most vocal about the game when they do not win 7 GSLs in a row. Dark had the best results overall in 2016, Zerg definitely wasn't trash. There was only 1 Zerg in the GSL Ro8 that entire year. Dark was a heavy outlier for most of the year.
And SSL was full of Z with a ZvZ finals during Cross-finals, but yes, Zerg was so bad that the guy ending the hegemony had to cheese every game.
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Parting rly feels like he has some NA ladder book to decide what to do next
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Bunny is gonna pull the boys, right?
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On May 13 2020 20:13 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2020 20:09 neutralrobot wrote:On May 13 2020 19:57 Fango wrote:On May 13 2020 19:54 neutralrobot wrote:On May 13 2020 19:52 Fango wrote:On May 13 2020 19:50 neutralrobot wrote:On May 13 2020 19:47 Morbidius wrote:On May 13 2020 19:45 Fuell wrote:
Godly micro, not one forcefield misplaced. I wonder how many top protoss could pull that off so slickly. None, Parting is the Protoss version of Byun. I've said it before, but at his peak, Parting had the best micro of all time. It's between him and Maru, but then people will bring up that PartinG always beat Maru back in the day Yeah, that's the thing. Parting would consistently beat Maru on the strength of his micro. The difference might have seemed tiny sometimes, but it was usually enough. But then you look at the difference in playing TvP vs PvT. What Maru was doing was completely impossible for any other terran, while what PartinG was doing was just better than his fellow protoss. Hmm... I'm not sure I understand the distinction you're making. Parting worked the immortal+sentry micro in ways that literally no other protoss player could, for example. Why is that different from Maru doing things nobody else could? Fango is a guy who called Rain a cheesy Protoss. Do not expect him to remember Parting beating Terrans with his first 3 units while boasting 92% PvT winrste for 6 months
I think it's generally much harder to distinguish finesse/superior control in Protoss players compared to Terran players. Parting's Soul Train was a masterclass in immortal/sentry control and way better than his peers', but at a glance it didn't look very different from anyone else's similar push. Terran bio makes it much easier to determine which player is better, whereas many Protoss players seem to "just win". At least, that's the conclusion I'm drawing from how people have talked about Protoss players forever.
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Oh no bunny doesn't get it 
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parting selling so hard :D
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hilarious
Parting entertains us well
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On May 13 2020 20:15 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2020 20:13 Ej_ wrote:On May 13 2020 20:09 neutralrobot wrote:On May 13 2020 19:57 Fango wrote:On May 13 2020 19:54 neutralrobot wrote:On May 13 2020 19:52 Fango wrote:On May 13 2020 19:50 neutralrobot wrote:On May 13 2020 19:47 Morbidius wrote:On May 13 2020 19:45 Fuell wrote:
Godly micro, not one forcefield misplaced. I wonder how many top protoss could pull that off so slickly. None, Parting is the Protoss version of Byun. I've said it before, but at his peak, Parting had the best micro of all time. It's between him and Maru, but then people will bring up that PartinG always beat Maru back in the day Yeah, that's the thing. Parting would consistently beat Maru on the strength of his micro. The difference might have seemed tiny sometimes, but it was usually enough. But then you look at the difference in playing TvP vs PvT. What Maru was doing was completely impossible for any other terran, while what PartinG was doing was just better than his fellow protoss. Hmm... I'm not sure I understand the distinction you're making. Parting worked the immortal+sentry micro in ways that literally no other protoss player could, for example. Why is that different from Maru doing things nobody else could? Fango is a guy who called Rain a cheesy Protoss. Do not expect him to remember Parting beating Terrans with his first 3 units while boasting 92% PvT winrste for 6 months I think it's generally much harder to distinguish finesse/superior control in Protoss players compared to Terran players. Parting's Soul Train was a masterclass in immortal/sentry control and way better than his peers', but at a glance it didn't look very different from anyone else's similar push. Terran bio makes it much easier to determine which player is better, whereas many Protoss players seem to "just win". At least, that's the conclusion I'm drawing from how people have talked about Protoss players forever.
Meanwhile Zerg just a moves banelings
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This kind of thing separates Bunny from top Terrans, misreading the situation so much hurts.
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On May 13 2020 20:09 neutralrobot wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2020 19:57 Fango wrote:On May 13 2020 19:54 neutralrobot wrote:On May 13 2020 19:52 Fango wrote:On May 13 2020 19:50 neutralrobot wrote:On May 13 2020 19:47 Morbidius wrote:On May 13 2020 19:45 Fuell wrote:
Godly micro, not one forcefield misplaced. I wonder how many top protoss could pull that off so slickly. None, Parting is the Protoss version of Byun. I've said it before, but at his peak, Parting had the best micro of all time. It's between him and Maru, but then people will bring up that PartinG always beat Maru back in the day Yeah, that's the thing. Parting would consistently beat Maru on the strength of his micro. The difference might have seemed tiny sometimes, but it was usually enough. But then you look at the difference in playing TvP vs PvT. What Maru was doing was completely impossible for any other terran, while what PartinG was doing was just better than his fellow protoss. Hmm... I'm not sure I understand the distinction you're making. Parting worked the immortal+sentry micro in ways that literally no other protoss player could, for example. Why is that different from Maru doing things nobody else could?
Maru was simply further ahead of other terrans than PartinG was to other protoss.
PartinG was the best with a composition that was already strong/meta, it's less impressive than working with compositions that were unplayable for anyone else. Let alone actually dominating/being the best terran with that composition.
Maru was smashing toss with biomine before mines got buffed to actually be good against protoss. Playing no viking against collosus and winning purely by micro'ing his units that well. He used to do all kinds of crazy shit like splitting his units so collosus could only hit one marauder each, grabbing peices of his army mid engagement to snipe them down, even kiting only the specific units that chargelots locked onto so the rest of his army could max DPS.
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On May 13 2020 20:14 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2020 20:10 pvsnp wrote:On May 13 2020 20:09 neutralrobot wrote:On May 13 2020 19:57 Fango wrote:On May 13 2020 19:54 neutralrobot wrote:On May 13 2020 19:52 Fango wrote:On May 13 2020 19:50 neutralrobot wrote:On May 13 2020 19:47 Morbidius wrote:On May 13 2020 19:45 Fuell wrote:
Godly micro, not one forcefield misplaced. I wonder how many top protoss could pull that off so slickly. None, Parting is the Protoss version of Byun. I've said it before, but at his peak, Parting had the best micro of all time. It's between him and Maru, but then people will bring up that PartinG always beat Maru back in the day Yeah, that's the thing. Parting would consistently beat Maru on the strength of his micro. The difference might have seemed tiny sometimes, but it was usually enough. But then you look at the difference in playing TvP vs PvT. What Maru was doing was completely impossible for any other terran, while what PartinG was doing was just better than his fellow protoss. Hmm... I'm not sure I understand the distinction you're making. Parting worked the immortal+sentry micro in ways that literally no other protoss player could, for example. Why is that different from Maru doing things nobody else could? Maru was the madlad who fought colossi without Vikings. Not the puny LotV colossi, the chad HotS ones. Current colossus 2 shots marines, they're actually pretty stronk. Of course, the more important function of the colossus is that it causes the Terran to make bad units aka vikings.
All I know is that nobody maxes out on 6 colossi anymore.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On May 13 2020 20:17 starkiller123 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2020 20:15 Zealously wrote:On May 13 2020 20:13 Ej_ wrote:On May 13 2020 20:09 neutralrobot wrote:On May 13 2020 19:57 Fango wrote:On May 13 2020 19:54 neutralrobot wrote:On May 13 2020 19:52 Fango wrote:On May 13 2020 19:50 neutralrobot wrote:On May 13 2020 19:47 Morbidius wrote:On May 13 2020 19:45 Fuell wrote:
Godly micro, not one forcefield misplaced. I wonder how many top protoss could pull that off so slickly. None, Parting is the Protoss version of Byun. I've said it before, but at his peak, Parting had the best micro of all time. It's between him and Maru, but then people will bring up that PartinG always beat Maru back in the day Yeah, that's the thing. Parting would consistently beat Maru on the strength of his micro. The difference might have seemed tiny sometimes, but it was usually enough. But then you look at the difference in playing TvP vs PvT. What Maru was doing was completely impossible for any other terran, while what PartinG was doing was just better than his fellow protoss. Hmm... I'm not sure I understand the distinction you're making. Parting worked the immortal+sentry micro in ways that literally no other protoss player could, for example. Why is that different from Maru doing things nobody else could? Fango is a guy who called Rain a cheesy Protoss. Do not expect him to remember Parting beating Terrans with his first 3 units while boasting 92% PvT winrste for 6 months I think it's generally much harder to distinguish finesse/superior control in Protoss players compared to Terran players. Parting's Soul Train was a masterclass in immortal/sentry control and way better than his peers', but at a glance it didn't look very different from anyone else's similar push. Terran bio makes it much easier to determine which player is better, whereas many Protoss players seem to "just win". At least, that's the conclusion I'm drawing from how people have talked about Protoss players forever. Meanwhile Zerg just a moves banelings /s
I mean it's a bit like how people would scratch their heads wondering why sOs' insane cheeses would work so often or why people would consistently be caught off-guard by Life's zergling backstabs. There are a lot of tiny details that separate players even if it looks at a glance like everyone's doing more or less the same thing but with different results.
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On May 13 2020 20:11 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2020 20:09 Morbidius wrote:On May 13 2020 20:04 Ej_ wrote:On May 13 2020 20:02 Fango wrote:On May 13 2020 20:01 Elentos wrote:On May 13 2020 19:59 DieuCure wrote:On May 13 2020 19:57 Elentos wrote:On May 13 2020 19:53 Morbidius wrote:On May 13 2020 19:48 BerserkSword wrote:On May 13 2020 19:47 Morbidius wrote:
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None, Parting is the Protoss version of Byun. Byun is the Terran version of Parting Parting is the micro GOAT Micro GOAT can't win a GSL? ByuN needed a heavily Terran favored meta to win GSL too. It's not like being the best at micro makes a GSL win easy. The meta was basically him. Yes, Terran didn't win everything. But the Koreans were unanimous about saying that Zerg was shit and Terran strong. Does literally anyone think zerg wasn't trash in 2016? Why it rarely gets brought up confuses me Because it is the Terran players who are most vocal about the game when they do not win 7 GSLs in a row. Dark had the best results overall in 2016, Zerg definitely wasn't trash. Maru won 4 GSLs in a row and people still yapped about it being bad for Terran though?
I mean other than Maru terran didn't win anything else, one of those seasons he was literally the only terran in the ro8 as well
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parting making another dark shrine
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On May 13 2020 20:18 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2020 20:09 neutralrobot wrote:On May 13 2020 19:57 Fango wrote:On May 13 2020 19:54 neutralrobot wrote:On May 13 2020 19:52 Fango wrote:On May 13 2020 19:50 neutralrobot wrote:On May 13 2020 19:47 Morbidius wrote:On May 13 2020 19:45 Fuell wrote:
Godly micro, not one forcefield misplaced. I wonder how many top protoss could pull that off so slickly. None, Parting is the Protoss version of Byun. I've said it before, but at his peak, Parting had the best micro of all time. It's between him and Maru, but then people will bring up that PartinG always beat Maru back in the day Yeah, that's the thing. Parting would consistently beat Maru on the strength of his micro. The difference might have seemed tiny sometimes, but it was usually enough. But then you look at the difference in playing TvP vs PvT. What Maru was doing was completely impossible for any other terran, while what PartinG was doing was just better than his fellow protoss. Hmm... I'm not sure I understand the distinction you're making. Parting worked the immortal+sentry micro in ways that literally no other protoss player could, for example. Why is that different from Maru doing things nobody else could? Maru was simply further ahead of other terrans than PartinG was to other protoss. PartinG was the best with a composition that was already strong/meta, it's less impressive than working with compositions that were unplayable for anyone else. Let alone actually dominating/being the best terran with that composition.
Except when protoss is really strong, all the things that can win games as protoss are meta. What you demand of protosses to get to the level of Maru is impossible.
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