EPT[WCS 2019] BlizzCon Finals Day - Page 2
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tigon_ridge
482 Posts
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On October 31 2019 11:10 tigon_ridge wrote: People are so wrong on Reynor vs Trap. Reynor is currently ranked 4th on Aligulac while Trap is in danger of falling below the top20 list. Should be a 3-1 win for Reynor. aligulac is not the be all end all, especially in the mostly split tournament system we have, I agree Reynor will probably win but Trap assuredly has a good shot, historically Reynor struggles against good Koreans. | ||
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tigon_ridge
482 Posts
On October 31 2019 11:55 starkiller123 wrote: aligulac is not the be all end all, especially in the mostly split tournament system we have, I agree Reynor will probably win but Trap assuredly has a good shot, historically Reynor struggles against good Koreans. I never said Aligulac is a crystal ball. Historically Reynor also wasn't in the same shape as he is right now, and historically he hadn't had that many chances to battle Koreans. One can easily chalk those losses to statistical noise, that is, outlier occurrences. One may also argue that since he now has much more experience against tippy top non-zergs, he should be much more prepared than before against them. | ||
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JJH777
United States4420 Posts
On October 31 2019 11:10 tigon_ridge wrote: People are so wrong on Reynor vs Trap. Reynor is currently ranked 4th on Aligulac while Trap is in danger of falling below the top20 list. Should be a 3-1 win for Reynor. Aligulac has a huge flaw when rating protoss due to how volatile PvP is all protoss players are very underrated. The idea that Trap isn't currently a top 20 player in the world is absolutely silly. | ||
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tigon_ridge
482 Posts
On October 31 2019 12:41 JJH777 wrote: Aligulac has a huge flaw when rating protoss due to how volatile PvP is all protoss players are very underrated. The idea that Trap isn't currently a top 20 player in the world is absolutely silly. First sentence makes no sense. Trap's rating has fallen quite hard because he's recently lost a lot of games, some of them against low-rated Koreans, ever since his big 4-1 win against Maru. Even before GSL S3, he wasn't doing too hot. I don't doubt much that he'll bounce back somewhat, but until he does, I have no reason to bet in his favor. | ||
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JJH777
United States4420 Posts
On October 31 2019 12:52 tigon_ridge wrote: First sentence makes no sense. Trap's rating has fallen quite hard because he's recently lost a lot of games, some of them against low-rated Koreans, ever since his big 4-1 win against Maru. Even before GSL S3, he wasn't doing too hot. I don't doubt much that he'll bounce back somewhat, but until he does, I have no reason to bet in his favor. What do you mean it makes no sense? It's a fact. Aligulac ratings are a combination of all 3 matchups and every Protoss is bad at PvP (relative to the top TvTers and ZvZers) which lowers their overall ratings. It's why the list is always dominated by T/Z even when Protoss is doing very well. | ||
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SamirDuran
Philippines895 Posts
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tigon_ridge
482 Posts
On October 31 2019 13:04 JJH777 wrote: What do you mean it makes no sense? It's a fact. Aligulac ratings are a combination of all 3 matchups and every Protoss is bad at PvP (relative to the top TvTers and ZvZers) which lowers their overall ratings. It's why the list is always dominated by T/Z even when Protoss is doing very well. Okay, but you may have exaggerated the volatility of PvP. Trap has been below the top10 for all of this year and last year also, while Classic and Stats have consistently kept their top10 status. I'll give you this, however: Trap's offline performance somehow has been much better than his online performances. However, it's not such a big discrepancy that I would say he is favored against Reynor, whose ZvP is almost 2900. I'll change it to Reynor 3-2, however, upon just now seeing this discrepancy. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States14003 Posts
On October 31 2019 05:54 True_Spike wrote: Maru, I believe in you. That's adorable. | ||
Poopi
France13022 Posts
I don’t think he has a shot in this meta but I have hope | ||
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sneakyfox
8218 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany7421 Posts
On October 31 2019 06:22 True_Spike wrote: It is boring to me if it's the same match up played virtually the same way 20 games in a row. I've been playing / watching Starcraft for 20 years now and that has always been the case for me, even in the most exciting of metas. ZvZ nowadays is much better than in the past (and oh so much better than in BW), but it's still the same thing over and over. I take ZvZ over ZvP with this meta any day of the week right now | ||
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Akio
Finland1838 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On October 31 2019 19:01 Harris1st wrote: I take ZvZ over ZvP with this meta any day of the week right now ZvZ isn't bad to watch, but knowing how strong zerg seems to be it's only natural that one would rather see players of the other races win a few matches here and there. People want the unexpected, zvz all the way through would go against that quite heavily. | ||
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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TentativePanda
United States800 Posts
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Poopi
France13022 Posts
On October 31 2019 23:52 TentativePanda wrote: I don’t know why people are so (not thaaat badly I guess) pessimistic about Maru’s chances against Dark. I favor Maru against him, but not against Rogue. I think it’ll be a rogue vs Serral finals i) Because TvZ is hard as hell at the moment, TY got 4-0ed by Dark ffs. ii) Dark 3-1ed Maru in a recent encounter (albeit Maru beat him 1-0 in the online team league even more recently) iii) Dark has the best ZvT in the world at the moment But there are some hopes: i) Maru is the best TvZ (and terran) in the world ii) Dark is a choker But overall it's kinda normal to be pessimistic about Maru's chances given all this | ||
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Noa Greenini
265 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8991 Posts
On November 01 2019 00:05 Noa Greenini wrote: I don't care who wins, I'm not staying up until 03AM to watch anything... Looking forward to reading results in the morning, but watching the 3-4 first matches in the evening... IDK why they are starting so late seriously, tournament start at noon Anaheim time... | ||
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