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[WCS 2019] BlizzCon Finals Day - Page 4

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Nithala
Profile Joined February 2019
Serbia18 Posts
November 01 2019 09:17 GMT
#61
On November 01 2019 10:02 jalstar wrote:
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On November 01 2019 09:01 Nithala wrote:
Enjoy americans


It's bad for the east coast too... why only 1 day...


Wow, if east coast suffers then its hell for the others. Finals starts 03:30 am in my time. It would be cool if all started 3 hours earlier, even with 1 day show.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
November 01 2019 09:18 GMT
#62
On November 01 2019 15:10 Morbidius wrote:
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On October 31 2019 06:18 dysenterymd wrote:
The ZvZ boring meme has to die, there have been so many great top level ZvZ matches over the past year. Maybe some lower level ZvZs are still roach headbutt, but that's not what it's like at the top level anymore.

That being said I do hope we don't have a ZvZvZvZ semis because the other match ups are fun too. Hoping Classic makes the finals!

Yes yes! Zvz is amazing! A matchup that's superior to every other BW and SC2 matchups! (Please Blizzard! I swear we like this garbage, please keep WCS and GSL going.)

Yeah, I also enjoy watching ZvZ quite a bit. The only matchup, that is quite hard to witness atm is probably PvZ, when it s non stop Nydus. But appart from that I m gladly watching every game, they throw at me
MaxPax
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
November 01 2019 10:05 GMT
#63
I would say I slept enough, I should be able to watch till at least one semi; and the whole thing if it’s Maru.
Too much hype tho it’s gonna be a long waiting
WriterMaru
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-01 10:57:43
November 01 2019 10:45 GMT
#64
What needs to be sacrificed to prevent an all ZvZ semis?
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16022 Posts
November 01 2019 11:48 GMT
#65
On November 01 2019 11:00 tigon_ridge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2019 10:02 jalstar wrote:
On November 01 2019 09:01 Nithala wrote:
Enjoy americans


It's bad for the east coast too... why only 1 day...

Better question yet: why do organizers insist on going with the single elimination format? People want to see a greater variety of race and player MUs, and more games played. Yet, here we are 2 decades later still using this lame format that is so luck-based and brief.

double-elim has always the controversy if the player from the winner bracket should get a map advantage or not.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
November 01 2019 11:52 GMT
#66
On November 01 2019 16:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2019 15:44 Ej_ wrote:
On November 01 2019 11:00 tigon_ridge wrote:
On November 01 2019 10:02 jalstar wrote:
On November 01 2019 09:01 Nithala wrote:
Enjoy americans


It's bad for the east coast too... why only 1 day...

Better question yet: why do organizers insist on going with the single elimination format? People want to see a greater variety of race and player MUs, and more games played. Yet, here we are 2 decades later still using this lame format that is so luck-based and brief.

Hint: it has to do with Blizzcon being a weekend event that is not primarily a Starcraft 2 tournament


While the amount of time available is definitely a factor, ending with a single elim. top8 is pretty typical even when time isn't a problem. Most people do like having things culminate in a straightforwards finals since it's more 'exciting', so the organizers are giving them what they want. Sure having the players play a bunch rounds of Swiss (to name just one example) might be less random, but you end up with players unceremoniously winning with rounds to go, games that viewers don't care about etc.


Ah, the mythical "most people" the ultimate argument for any dumb corporate decision. It's the same bunch of hypothetical beings as has been used for years to argue for any randomly nonsensical choice around the game - and in fact around almost anything on the market nowadays. It's mostly a smoke screen for the cheapest solution though.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
November 01 2019 12:01 GMT
#67
Is here a "Blizzcon 2019" Thread? I like to know when it starts.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Stormhoof
Profile Joined January 2015
Serbia182 Posts
November 01 2019 12:09 GMT
#68
On November 01 2019 21:01 Dingodile wrote:
Is here a "Blizzcon 2019" Thread? I like to know when it starts.


This is it, it starts 7 hours from now on. It's 20h CET (first quarterfinal) so check your timezone.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
November 01 2019 12:35 GMT
#69
On November 01 2019 21:09 Stormhoof wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2019 21:01 Dingodile wrote:
Is here a "Blizzcon 2019" Thread? I like to know when it starts.


This is it, it starts 7 hours from now on. It's 20h CET (first quarterfinal) so check your timezone.

I didn't mean sc2 games. The whole Event Blizzcon. I like to know/see the announcements/trailers of any new games.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Obamarauder
Profile Joined June 2015
697 Posts
November 01 2019 12:36 GMT
#70
Im so ready for soo to eliminate serral
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
November 01 2019 13:05 GMT
#71
Darn, I didn't realize that it was a single day event. Will they start games early if previous games finish early?

The finals start very late from a European pov, but with a rolling schedule and a tournament full of zergs there is still some hope.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3124 Posts
November 01 2019 13:24 GMT
#72
lol starts in under 6 hours. I've been up watching the KSL. Guess I'm missing this one. I'll watch the vods later.
Artosis loves Starcraft
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
November 01 2019 13:44 GMT
#73
Wow I thought this was going to be tomorrow. Ah well, excited to watch Serral win the back to back! (Starcraft is a tough game and this post may not age well)
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
tigon_ridge
Profile Joined March 2019
482 Posts
November 01 2019 14:27 GMT
#74
On November 01 2019 15:44 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2019 11:00 tigon_ridge wrote:
On November 01 2019 10:02 jalstar wrote:
On November 01 2019 09:01 Nithala wrote:
Enjoy americans


It's bad for the east coast too... why only 1 day...

Better question yet: why do organizers insist on going with the single elimination format? People want to see a greater variety of race and player MUs, and more games played. Yet, here we are 2 decades later still using this lame format that is so luck-based and brief.

Hint: it has to do with Blizzcon being a weekend event that is not primarily a Starcraft 2 tournament

They literally flew a few players halfway around the world midway into the tournament, and you're telling me they can't afford to extend the tournament by another weekend? What makes the logistics so difficult?
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
November 01 2019 14:32 GMT
#75
On November 01 2019 23:27 tigon_ridge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2019 15:44 Ej_ wrote:
On November 01 2019 11:00 tigon_ridge wrote:
On November 01 2019 10:02 jalstar wrote:
On November 01 2019 09:01 Nithala wrote:
Enjoy americans


It's bad for the east coast too... why only 1 day...

Better question yet: why do organizers insist on going with the single elimination format? People want to see a greater variety of race and player MUs, and more games played. Yet, here we are 2 decades later still using this lame format that is so luck-based and brief.

Hint: it has to do with Blizzcon being a weekend event that is not primarily a Starcraft 2 tournament

They literally flew a few players halfway around the world midway into the tournament, and you're telling me they can't afford to extend the tournament by another weekend? What makes the logistics so difficult?

Little to do with logistics and the fact that holding a Blizzcon tournament after Blizzcon is over is... senseless to say the least.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
November 01 2019 14:32 GMT
#76
On November 01 2019 23:27 tigon_ridge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2019 15:44 Ej_ wrote:
On November 01 2019 11:00 tigon_ridge wrote:
On November 01 2019 10:02 jalstar wrote:
On November 01 2019 09:01 Nithala wrote:
Enjoy americans


It's bad for the east coast too... why only 1 day...

Better question yet: why do organizers insist on going with the single elimination format? People want to see a greater variety of race and player MUs, and more games played. Yet, here we are 2 decades later still using this lame format that is so luck-based and brief.

Hint: it has to do with Blizzcon being a weekend event that is not primarily a Starcraft 2 tournament

They literally flew a few players halfway around the world midway into the tournament, and you're telling me they can't afford to extend the tournament by another weekend? What makes the logistics so difficult?


Setting up an arena and paying a bunch of staff is way more expensive than flying a couple of people from Seoul to California. (plus the fact that they had the preliminary in Korea probably saved them money since they already had a studio and staff on place.)
If they give Starcraft another day then they probably need to find another room for something else that is going on there on the weekend, or cancel something. They already have an entire separate Arena for Overwatch so I assume the convention center is pretty packed.

I guess they could have done another weekend in Seoul than do round of 4 at Blizzcon.
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tigon_ridge
Profile Joined March 2019
482 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-01 15:01:18
November 01 2019 14:45 GMT
#77
On November 01 2019 16:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2019 15:44 Ej_ wrote:
On November 01 2019 11:00 tigon_ridge wrote:
On November 01 2019 10:02 jalstar wrote:
On November 01 2019 09:01 Nithala wrote:
Enjoy americans


It's bad for the east coast too... why only 1 day...

Better question yet: why do organizers insist on going with the single elimination format? People want to see a greater variety of race and player MUs, and more games played. Yet, here we are 2 decades later still using this lame format that is so luck-based and brief.

Hint: it has to do with Blizzcon being a weekend event that is not primarily a Starcraft 2 tournament


While the amount of time available is definitely a factor, ending with a single elim. top8 is pretty typical even when time isn't a problem. Most people do like having things culminate in a straightforwards finals since it's more 'exciting', so the organizers are giving them what they want. Sure having the players play a bunch rounds of Swiss (to name just one example) might be less random, but you end up with players unceremoniously winning with rounds to go, games that viewers don't care about etc.

While there will be matches few viewers care about after the winner has been declared, it at least protects the integrity of the trophy. (e.g. Elazer came dangerously close to a 1st prize in a tournament where he shouldn't have even been in the Ro4). Viewers are much more likely to get the player MUs they'd been hoping for.
tigon_ridge
Profile Joined March 2019
482 Posts
November 01 2019 14:49 GMT
#78
On November 01 2019 23:32 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2019 23:27 tigon_ridge wrote:
On November 01 2019 15:44 Ej_ wrote:
On November 01 2019 11:00 tigon_ridge wrote:
On November 01 2019 10:02 jalstar wrote:
On November 01 2019 09:01 Nithala wrote:
Enjoy americans


It's bad for the east coast too... why only 1 day...

Better question yet: why do organizers insist on going with the single elimination format? People want to see a greater variety of race and player MUs, and more games played. Yet, here we are 2 decades later still using this lame format that is so luck-based and brief.

Hint: it has to do with Blizzcon being a weekend event that is not primarily a Starcraft 2 tournament

They literally flew a few players halfway around the world midway into the tournament, and you're telling me they can't afford to extend the tournament by another weekend? What makes the logistics so difficult?

Little to do with logistics and the fact that holding a Blizzcon tournament after Blizzcon is over is... senseless to say the least.

The group stage took place before Blizzcon. Can't they simply move it back another week? I wouldn't mind the entire Blizzcon SC2 event being a round robin of just the top4 remaining players.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33513 Posts
November 01 2019 15:22 GMT
#79
Happy UnLarva day!
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
November 01 2019 15:24 GMT
#80
Anyone have any idea how long the pre-show will be?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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