The offline events will start at Oct 10th,Thursday next week and will last for 4 days. The first day is for all-star match,each team will send one player and 3 more Chinese players will come.
As a side notice, a new team, DPGaming, announced that they acquired their first player in Chinese forum: DPG.Dark. When KaiZi was found, the four billionaires owners already has disputes who they would hire. After a season of quarrel, two of them decided to create another team, Dragon Phoenix Gaming, and declared themselves "Dragon and Phoenix", or "卧龙“ and "凤雏”, which is the nickname of Zhuge Liang and Pang Tong, the two smartest of Three Kingdom era of China. However, this DPG, also earns a nickname of "大屁股“, or "Big Ass" from Chinese fans, which stands the same initials.
There was rumor that Newbee was trying to acquire Dark or some days ago, and TIME said he practiced with Dark for the GSL Super Tournament, but it seems DPG would pay more. Actually for whatever they would pay, the cost of running a Starcraft 2 team for a year is still a fraction of such billionaire's one day income.
Since Gumiho will retire and go to military soon, and Armani already left Black Night, and more Koreans may have to go to military next year, some team(s) may leave CTC next season, but I also heard rumor that there are more people who has interest to join the league, including a team of LPL league. The problem is that there isn't a lot of teamless and competitive Chinese and Korean player left.
Edit: Also, I heard rumor that TY will join TSG since TSG.hero will not be allowed to play offline next year.
Well, Armani is now a free agent, and then there are some other pros that have come back but are not having such sucess.
- Zoun is still available; - SpeeD has just recently been released from Black Night as well; - Seed is a free agent; - TOP is a free agent; - Polt is a free agent; - Symbol recently tried to qualify for GSL or GSL ST (I don't remember exactly); - Journey is a free agent; - HerO is a free agent; - Spear is a free agent; - PenguiN is a free agent; - Prince is free too; - Gyulzzing and FarmY are free too; - Losira is a free agent (I don't know if he has been to the army yet tho);
Then we have some korean pros that are in teams that are not participating in CTC and might want to play there or be offered more pay: - Taeja (Liquid); - MC (Root) - Supernova (Root??) - Stats (maybe if Splyce actually ends and he doesn't go to the army?) - Rookie (The Gosu Crew Academy) - Duke (The Gosu Crew Academy) - Dandy (Root) - Bomber (Team Revolution) - Trust (Team Revolution) - Chance (IndyK)
Players that might be good if a chance is given aspiring pros: SHOW; StuN; AsA; Control; DarkZerg; Soloist.
As for chinese/taiwanese players I don't know how many are available, but in Taiwan it might be easy to find some.
Meanwhile Black Night just hired LunaSea, Percival and Faint. All GM obviously, LunaSea is well known for his streaming I guess. Faint is 15 years old and Percival I don't know anything about.
On October 07 2019 20:25 Tastyyyy wrote: Well, Armani is now a free agent, and then there are some other pros that have come back but are not having such sucess.
- Zoun is still available; - SpeeD has just recently been released from Black Night as well; - Seed is a free agent; - TOP is a free agent; - Polt is a free agent; - Symbol recently tried to qualify for GSL or GSL ST (I don't remember exactly); - Journey is a free agent; - HerO is a free agent; - Spear is a free agent; - PenguiN is a free agent; - Prince is free too; - Gyulzzing and FarmY are free too; - Losira is a free agent (I don't know if he has been to the army yet tho);
Then we have some korean pros that are in teams that are not participating in CTC and might want to play there or be offered more pay: - Taeja (Liquid); - MC (Root) - Supernova (Root??) - Stats (maybe if Splyce actually ends and he doesn't go to the army?) - Rookie (The Gosu Crew Academy) - Duke (The Gosu Crew Academy) - Dandy (Root) - Bomber (Team Revolution) - Trust (Team Revolution) - Chance (IndyK)
Players that might be good if a chance is given aspiring pros: SHOW; StuN; AsA; Control; DarkZerg; Soloist.
As for chinese/taiwanese players I don't know how many are available, but in Taiwan it might be easy to find some.
Stats is definitely either going to the army or very close to so he won't able to play abroad.
As a heads up : tomorrow (Wednesday) from ~1pm CEST I'll be catching up on the matches I missed last week due to internet issues, in case anybody is looking for some English coverage from that.
On October 11 2019 21:15 Harris1st wrote: Why did JAG vs OG then end with 4:1? And this continues with 4:2? WTF IS GOING ON
I think Jin Air vs. OG still was played with the normal format from the regular season (like we expected these first two playoff matches to be played).
Fanta is getting so lucky in both game, first killing 30 supply in the air and now getting into the main pass 2 viking by a single shot to open the low ground.
On October 11 2019 23:50 Poopi wrote: I'm still confident INno will do well in the actual playoffs! Fantasy will probably be destroyed by Solar against TSG though.
The combination of this being live + a team league reminds me of the excitement of the last few GSTLs. Yeah, you knew it wasn't always THE VERY BEST players in the world, but something about the environment made it really exciting to watch nonetheless. IPLTAC grand finals and ATC as well.
This Korean military really needs to get a grip and stop ruining starcraft. They are even ruining stuff before they have begun actually ruining stuff by taking people in.
On October 12 2019 22:05 sneakyfox wrote: This Korean military really needs to get a grip and stop ruining starcraft. They are even ruining stuff before they have begun actually ruining stuff by taking people in.
On October 12 2019 22:05 sneakyfox wrote: This Korean military really needs to get a grip and stop ruining starcraft. They are even ruining stuff before they have begun actually ruining stuff by taking people in.
On October 12 2019 21:23 Elentos wrote: TSG might wish they already had TY for this one.
Gonna be heartbreaking to see TY being put against SpeCial next season. </3
I doubt whether Ocean Gaming will participate in 2020 S1. Zest will have to be an online player next year. TooDming's age is also a large problem.
Someone said that Zest is exempt from the army due to a heart condition.
Also, they can always try to hire other players.
Nonono, I made a bad pun about Zest "crushing every heart" I have no idea about any condition, someone else said he thought Zest was exempt of military for medical reason tho.
On October 12 2019 21:23 Elentos wrote: TSG might wish they already had TY for this one.
Gonna be heartbreaking to see TY being put against SpeCial next season. </3
I doubt whether Ocean Gaming will participate in 2020 S1. Zest will have to be an online player next year. TooDming's age is also a large problem.
Someone said that Zest is exempt from the army due to a heart condition..
Surely in that case they would give people more administrative or advertising roles instead of physical ones? I can't imagine them letting people off easily.
On October 12 2019 23:31 Elentos wrote: Reminder that this match should have been Jin Air vs Pixel 1 but 5-0 is worse than 4-1.
Well, we'll have that tomorrow, what difference does it really make?
The difference is TSG taking 4th vs being in the finals
Pixel 1 didn't care for that decider, it's like losing in the groupstages when you are already qualified as first. Irrelevant… Also, Fantasy 7-0ing KaiZi was something I would regret not having watched.
On October 13 2019 00:00 Nakajin wrote: TSG got kind of screwed with that new playoff format (although I quite like it)
TSG got screwed in the group stage, but the playoff format actually benefits them against JAGW. Such format is designed to make weaker player more valuable, if Rouge 2-0 everyone like fantasy yesterday, it actually make no difference.
On October 13 2019 00:00 Nakajin wrote: TSG got kind of screwed with that new playoff format (although I quite like it)
TSG got screwed in the group stage, but the playoff format actually benefits them against JAGW. Such format is designed to make weaker player more valuable, if Rouge 2-0 everyone like fantasy yesterday, it actually make no difference.
Well no. In the regular season format Rogue would have only played 2 games instead of 8.
Had to go during the last game between EF and Rogue - so Rogue all-killed TSG then? Kind of confused when looking at Liquipedia now - it says Solar won the last game?
On October 13 2019 00:30 TheOneAboveU wrote: Had to go during the last game between EF and Rogue - so Rogue all-killed TSG then? Kind of confused when looking at Liquipedia now - it says Solar won the last game?
Edit: Ah, it just wasn't updated yet... :D
The game went over the limit of current LP template (9 maps) so they had to scramble to get new code in.
On October 13 2019 00:00 Nakajin wrote: TSG got kind of screwed with that new playoff format (although I quite like it)
TSG got screwed in the group stage, but the playoff format actually benefits them against JAGW. Such format is designed to make weaker player more valuable, if Rouge 2-0 everyone like fantasy yesterday, it actually make no difference.
Nah the group stage format was better for them. With the 3 bo2 format, having the best player can only give you 2 points, but TSG strength was that they had 3 player who could pick off maps. Solar and herO were both very favored against every chinese player and Nice was also very good against them, and after that you only needed a single map win against a korean to go to the ace match.
Now with that new format you can't sandbag the best player with your chinese player and than play a bo1 against him, you need to beat him three time or he's just gonna all-kill you, and obviously neither herO, Nice or Solar are favored against Rogue and Maru, but winning two maps out of 5 against them is much more doable than winning the 4 you need with that format.
On October 13 2019 00:00 Nakajin wrote: TSG got kind of screwed with that new playoff format (although I quite like it)
TSG got screwed in the group stage, but the playoff format actually benefits them against JAGW. Such format is designed to make weaker player more valuable, if Rouge 2-0 everyone like fantasy yesterday, it actually make no difference.
Nah the group stage format was better for them. With the 3 bo2 format, having the best player can only give you 2 points, but TSG strength was that they had 3 player who could pick off maps. Solar and herO were both very favored against every chinese player and Nice was also very good against them, and after that you only needed a single map win against a korean to go to the ace match.
Now with that new format you can't sandbag the best player with your chinese player and than play a bo1 against him, you need to beat him three time or he's just gonna all-kill you, and obviously neither herO, Nice or Solar are favored against Rogue and Maru, but winning two maps out of 5 against them is much more doable than winning the 4 you need with that format.
Well, you actually only need to win 1 vs Maru and 1 vs Rogue to eliminate them both and get to the ace match. You don't have to win 4
On October 13 2019 00:00 Nakajin wrote: TSG got kind of screwed with that new playoff format (although I quite like it)
TSG got screwed in the group stage, but the playoff format actually benefits them against JAGW. Such format is designed to make weaker player more valuable, if Rouge 2-0 everyone like fantasy yesterday, it actually make no difference.
Nah the group stage format was better for them. With the 3 bo2 format, having the best player can only give you 2 points, but TSG strength was that they had 3 player who could pick off maps. Solar and herO were both very favored against every chinese player and Nice was also very good against them, and after that you only needed a single map win against a korean to go to the ace match.
Now with that new format you can't sandbag the best player with your chinese player and than play a bo1 against him, you need to beat him three time or he's just gonna all-kill you, and obviously neither herO, Nice or Solar are favored against Rogue and Maru, but winning two maps out of 5 against them is much more doable than winning the 4 you need with that format.
Well, you actually only need to win 1 vs Maru and 1 vs Rogue to eliminate them both and get to the ace match. You don't have to win 4
Oh your right, I counted the revive and the ace as two different things. So ya you need to go 3 for 5 minum against them (well 2-2 than 1-0), still a bit worst since you can't sandbag one of them. Not saying the format isn't good, just that it favor certain teams.
On October 13 2019 00:00 Nakajin wrote: TSG got kind of screwed with that new playoff format (although I quite like it)
TSG got screwed in the group stage, but the playoff format actually benefits them against JAGW. Such format is designed to make weaker player more valuable, if Rouge 2-0 everyone like fantasy yesterday, it actually make no difference.
Nah the group stage format was better for them. With the 3 bo2 format, having the best player can only give you 2 points, but TSG strength was that they had 3 player who could pick off maps. Solar and herO were both very favored against every chinese player and Nice was also very good against them, and after that you only needed a single map win against a korean to go to the ace match.
Now with that new format you can't sandbag the best player with your chinese player and than play a bo1 against him, you need to beat him three time or he's just gonna all-kill you, and obviously neither herO, Nice or Solar are favored against Rogue and Maru, but winning two maps out of 5 against them is much more doable than winning the 4 you need with that format.
I think u misunderstood his opinion,what he really meant was the new format of S2 playoffs is better than the S1 playoffs(KOF,and individual format is BO3,which means you must eliminate Rogue through winning a BO3) for weaker team. In S2 playoffs,eliminateing a Starplayers only need win a map, this new format is good for weaker team. Of course,the format of group stage is better for weaker team ,but for a team tournment's palyoffs, KOF format is inevitable.
On October 13 2019 00:00 Nakajin wrote: TSG got kind of screwed with that new playoff format (although I quite like it)
TSG got screwed in the group stage, but the playoff format actually benefits them against JAGW. Such format is designed to make weaker player more valuable, if Rouge 2-0 everyone like fantasy yesterday, it actually make no difference.
Nah the group stage format was better for them. With the 3 bo2 format, having the best player can only give you 2 points, but TSG strength was that they had 3 player who could pick off maps. Solar and herO were both very favored against every chinese player and Nice was also very good against them, and after that you only needed a single map win against a korean to go to the ace match.
Now with that new format you can't sandbag the best player with your chinese player and than play a bo1 against him, you need to beat him three time or he's just gonna all-kill you, and obviously neither herO, Nice or Solar are favored against Rogue and Maru, but winning two maps out of 5 against them is much more doable than winning the 4 you need with that format.
I think u misunderstood his opinion,what he really meant was the new format of S2 playoffs is better than the S1 playoffs(KOF,and individual format is BO3,which means you must eliminate Rogue through winning a BO3) for weaker team. In S2 playoffs,eliminateing a Starplayers only need win a map, this new format is good for weaker team. Of course,the format of group stage is better for weaker team ,but for a team tournment's palyoffs, KOF format is inevitable.
On October 13 2019 00:43 CxWiLL wrote: does this count as an All kill? Rouge eliminated entire TSG but got killed in the last game.
Technically it's not, he was eliminated due to the tie against Solar, it's just that Solar was TSG's final life. Under this format you need to 2-0 every single opponent for an all kill, as in the traditional all kill format the player needs to be the last man standing for it to count.
On October 13 2019 00:43 CxWiLL wrote: does this count as an All kill? Rouge eliminated entire TSG but got killed in the last game.
Technically it's not, he was eliminated due to the tie against Solar, it's just that Solar was TSG's final life. Under this format you need to 2-0 every single opponent for an all kill, as in the traditional all kill format the player needs to be the last man standing for it to count.
it's a semi-all-kill like you can get in Nation Wars, ATC, or other tournaments with a "revive" system
Despite the confusion of explaining it a hundred times, this format is really fun. The matches are a really good length for "playoffs" (I feel some of these team bo7s are so short nowadays...) Guaranteed 7 maps but also max of 13 is really nice. It keeps that underdog element as well with just needing to pick up one map win to have an impact.
I really like it. 10/10 - only thing that is weird is that if you revive someone they can't play the ace, feels like the ace is kind of meant to be the revived player. I guess this is to weaken "one player" teams
On October 13 2019 09:09 Wardi wrote: Despite the confusion of explaining it a hundred times, this format is really fun. The matches are a really good length for "playoffs" (I feel some of these team bo7s are so short nowadays...) Guaranteed 7 maps but also max of 13 is really nice. It keeps that underdog element as well with just needing to pick up one map win to have an impact.
I really like it. 10/10 - only thing that is weird is that if you revive someone they can't play the ace, feels like the ace is kind of meant to be the revived player. I guess this is to weaken "one player" teams
Suppose both teams already have 3 players eliminated (could be between 3 of 1-1 to 6 of 2-0), then they both revive one player. If the match between this 4th, revived players also end 1-1, they both are eliminated too. Then it is the final ace match. Since both teams' revived players are eliminated, they cannot revive him again.
Host asked Maru what he thought of Time which claiming to be maru fans as his opponent at Global Playoffs in an interview. Maru felt confused and said “Who is Time?”,although they chated on the ladder before.XDDD Poor Time~
On October 13 2019 20:23 TheOneAboveU wrote: Aw, unnecessary loss there from Bunny. Just re-position your libs Bunjwa. t.t
Hardest thing about playing with libs on this map pool is finding an angle where you don't get surrounded, which is when libs are weakest. He was always gonna lose the bio army, but honestly he was even lucky Trap was so late with the stalkers.
E: If Bunny wins this is the game of the year if not it's a colossal waste of time.
I don't think Inno picked the right approach there. I think TY would have used his advantage to expand much faster than the opponent there. Inno never really pushed his advantage into a big economic lead, so it wasn't too big of a problem for Maru to sit back until he had an army advantage.
On October 13 2019 22:39 sneakyfox wrote: I don't think Inno picked the right approach there. I think TY would have used his advantage to expand much faster than the opponent there. Inno never really pushed his advantage into a big economic lead, so it wasn't too big of a problem for Maru to sit back until he had an army advantage.
Well just execution wise, think about how many medivacs he threw into Maru that went down and how much that delayed his viking production.
On October 13 2019 22:39 sneakyfox wrote: I don't think Inno picked the right approach there. I think TY would have used his advantage to expand much faster than the opponent there. Inno never really pushed his advantage into a big economic lead, so it wasn't too big of a problem for Maru to sit back until he had an army advantage.
Well just execution wise, think about how many medivacs he threw into Maru that went down and how much that delayed his viking production.
In the wise word of Artosis: When I see a player start to build viking before the other guy in tvt I know who's gonna win
On October 13 2019 22:39 sneakyfox wrote: I don't think Inno picked the right approach there. I think TY would have used his advantage to expand much faster than the opponent there. Inno never really pushed his advantage into a big economic lead, so it wasn't too big of a problem for Maru to sit back until he had an army advantage.
Well just execution wise, think about how many medivacs he threw into Maru that went down and how much that delayed his viking production.
Yeah that too, his control wasn't very good and he kept boosting in there not caring about vikings etc
On October 14 2019 00:06 Elentos wrote: Look at how weak Fantasy is vs Zerg, can't believe Misaki couldn't stop the all-kill.
Simply outclassed. Misaki is only an amatuer player from SCBOY training camp, 5700MMR on KR server, and his weak point is ZVT. We were actually amaze by how he manage to knock off a few games from the real pros in the regular seasons.
On October 14 2019 00:33 Musicus wrote: lmao, Rogue trying to get Nydus nerfed ASAP.
It's like he's rubbing it in the viewer's faces. :D
... can't wait for Nyduscon, ehm, BlizzCon!
Best of 5 group stages. So much nydus potential.
Queen-ling all in nydus, nydus roach push, mass nydus late game, swarm host nydus pressure, double nydus canal all ins, ultra harrass nydus, infested marines nydus harrass, Rogue build order range is unparrallel
On October 14 2019 00:33 Musicus wrote: lmao, Rogue trying to get Nydus nerfed ASAP.
It's like he's rubbing it in the viewer's faces. :D
... can't wait for Nyduscon, ehm, BlizzCon!
Best of 5 group stages. So much nydus potential.
Queen-ling all in nydus, nydus roach push, mass nydus late game, swarm host nydus pressure, double nydus canal all ins, ultra harrass nydus, infested marines nydus harrass, Rogue build order range is unparrallel
On October 14 2019 00:53 MarianoSC2 wrote: Uhm Rogue was in total control until he decided to go ultras into lose... Will never understand why Zergs still do this
On October 14 2019 01:01 dspnebula wrote: I think ultras are ok with infestors. But with vipers?The stalkers could still do a lot of damage.
The play is to get them to blink in, blinding cloud the clumped stalkers and then destroy everything with ultras. Worked like a charm vs Patience, kinda looked bad vs PartinG right there.
On October 14 2019 00:53 MarianoSC2 wrote: Uhm Rogue was in total control until he decided to go ultras into lose... Will never understand why Zergs still do this
On October 14 2019 01:01 dspnebula wrote: I think ultras are ok with infestors. But with vipers?The stalkers could still do a lot of damage.
The play is to get them to blink in, blinding cloud the clumped stalkers and then destroy everything with ultras. Worked like a charm vs Patience, kinda looked bad vs PartinG right there.
I can see the logic but I am not sure it's viable against tosses with Parting level of micro. Would love to see that engage again without Rogue losing 30 lings just before the attack. That might have made quite a big difference
On October 14 2019 01:34 CxWiLL wrote: it is 0:30 am right now in Shanghai.
Don't think I remember an asian event running this late.
Seemed like any event that Fantasy played, the event will run late just like today. I remembered the last time when Fantasy prolonged ro.16 GSL match up till midnight.
On October 14 2019 01:34 CxWiLL wrote: it is 0:30 am right now in Shanghai.
Don't think I remember an asian event running this late.
Seemed like any event that Fantasy played, the event will run late just like today. I remembered the last time when Fantasy prolonged ro.16 GSL match up till midnight.
Yes, but in KR it's 1 hour later if the TL clock is right, so this is even later.
On October 14 2019 01:26 TheOneAboveU wrote: This league was already worth it for this match, we would've never gotten this any other way. So cool!
Great pro league series. Reminded me a lot of korean proleague a long time ago.
Hopefully Serral and Stats can join as well. TY and Dark had already chosen their team.
Why would Serral ever want to join this league? It's just actually not at all convenient for European players.
Because the match has to play on Korea server, so it is not suitable for player who lives on Europe or America. However, since Nogret has a team house in Korea, anyone who lives there can play, such as Special and Scarlett, and probably Astrea next season. Actually I hear rumor that the billionaire owners of KaiZi and DPG said they would try to contact Serral and Neeb with very high salary before, but I don't hear any subsequent results at all.
On October 14 2019 02:21 Elentos wrote: Rogue with what 16 wins in the playoffs? Talk about a carry.
Yeah, he went 18-4 including the seeding match vs. OG. Crazy good.
Dropped games to Inno, Solar, PartinG and Patience. Not unbeatable!
Could it be P1 was hoping for a revive on Maru to have PartinG available for super duper mega ace vs Rogue?
That thought process makes the most sense to me as well. Ideally they'd have PartinG vs. Rogue, and FanTaSy vs. Maru. But that's the thing about Jin Air, I guess: such a deep line up. They could've even sent Cure for the TvT snipe against FanTaSy in the ace, had PartinG been sent out as the revive.
On October 14 2019 02:21 Elentos wrote: Rogue with what 16 wins in the playoffs? Talk about a carry.
Yeah, he went 18-4 including the seeding match vs. OG. Crazy good.
Dropped games to Inno, Solar, PartinG and Patience. Not unbeatable!
Could it be P1 was hoping for a revive on Maru to have PartinG available for super duper mega ace vs Rogue?
That thought process makes the most sense to me as well. Ideally they'd have PartinG vs. Rogue, and FanTaSy vs. Maru. But that's the thing about Jin Air, I guess: such a deep line up. They could've even sent Cure for the TvT snipe against FanTaSy in the ace, had PartinG been sent out as the revive.
Obviously the ace match is where you have Cure run to the hotel and wake up sOs so he can play.
On October 14 2019 01:26 TheOneAboveU wrote: This league was already worth it for this match, we would've never gotten this any other way. So cool!
Great pro league series. Reminded me a lot of korean proleague a long time ago.
Hopefully Serral and Stats can join as well. TY and Dark had already chosen their team.
Why would Serral ever want to join this league? It's just actually not at all convenient for European players.
Because the match has to play on Korea server, so it is not suitable for player who lives on Europe or America. However, since Nogret has a team house in Korea, anyone who lives there can play, such as Special and Scarlett, and probably Astrea next season. Actually I hear rumor that the billionaire owners of KaiZi and DPG said they would try to contact Serral and Neeb with very high salary before, but I don't hear any subsequent results at all.
It's a rumor, scboy said they don't want their billionaire friends to use too high salary to disrupt the market.
I just saw Maru vs Firefly g1, how do you win vs canon rush btw? Is there a link to a pro hold? The only time I beat it is when I was gonna proxy the protoss so I can get a proxy factory, but I don't remember holding it when going normal build
On October 14 2019 01:26 TheOneAboveU wrote: This league was already worth it for this match, we would've never gotten this any other way. So cool!
Great pro league series. Reminded me a lot of korean proleague a long time ago.
Hopefully Serral and Stats can join as well. TY and Dark had already chosen their team.
Why would Serral ever want to join this league? It's just actually not at all convenient for European players.
Because the match has to play on Korea server, so it is not suitable for player who lives on Europe or America. However, since Nogret has a team house in Korea, anyone who lives there can play, such as Special and Scarlett, and probably Astrea next season. Actually I hear rumor that the billionaire owners of KaiZi and DPG said they would try to contact Serral and Neeb with very high salary before, but I don't hear any subsequent results at all.
It's a rumor, scboy said they don't want their billionaire friends to use too high salary to disrupt the market.
The league has a salary cap in place for exactly that reason.
On October 14 2019 06:15 Poopi wrote: I just saw Maru vs Firefly g1, how do you win vs canon rush btw? Is there a link to a pro hold? The only time I beat it is when I was gonna proxy the protoss so I can get a proxy factory, but I don't remember holding it when going normal build
We almost never see cannon rushes against terran in the first place, because they aren't that good.
On October 14 2019 01:26 TheOneAboveU wrote: This league was already worth it for this match, we would've never gotten this any other way. So cool!
Great pro league series. Reminded me a lot of korean proleague a long time ago.
Hopefully Serral and Stats can join as well. TY and Dark had already chosen their team.
Why would Serral ever want to join this league? It's just actually not at all convenient for European players.
Because the match has to play on Korea server, so it is not suitable for player who lives on Europe or America. However, since Nogret has a team house in Korea, anyone who lives there can play, such as Special and Scarlett, and probably Astrea next season. Actually I hear rumor that the billionaire owners of KaiZi and DPG said they would try to contact Serral and Neeb with very high salary before, but I don't hear any subsequent results at all.
It's a rumor, scboy said they don't want their billionaire friends to use too high salary to disrupt the market.
"We don't want people to invest too much money in SC2" is very much a Chinese only problem.
On October 14 2019 01:26 TheOneAboveU wrote: This league was already worth it for this match, we would've never gotten this any other way. So cool!
Great pro league series. Reminded me a lot of korean proleague a long time ago.
Hopefully Serral and Stats can join as well. TY and Dark had already chosen their team.
Why would Serral ever want to join this league? It's just actually not at all convenient for European players.
Because the match has to play on Korea server, so it is not suitable for player who lives on Europe or America. However, since Nogret has a team house in Korea, anyone who lives there can play, such as Special and Scarlett, and probably Astrea next season. Actually I hear rumor that the billionaire owners of KaiZi and DPG said they would try to contact Serral and Neeb with very high salary before, but I don't hear any subsequent results at all.
It's a rumor, scboy said they don't want their billionaire friends to use too high salary to disrupt the market.
"We don't want people to invest too much money in SC2" is very much a Chinese only problem.
One of them is #2 on Dota2 TI9 compendium, and he barely plays dota. We don't call them Kaizi for no reasons.
BTW, Rouge is 18-4 this weekend, absolutely beast performance.
Fabulous games! Rogue just punched through almost everyone (I'll give him credit for acknowledging balance issues as well). The spirit of our only Lord FLASH lives on in Fantasy when he pulled out the ruler. Valiant efforts, game me flashbacks of him in his Brood War days. And Firefly made good on his promise in interview that he will take down Maru. I counted 7 or 8 bunkers in total from Maru in the 2nd game lol.
On October 14 2019 01:26 TheOneAboveU wrote: This league was already worth it for this match, we would've never gotten this any other way. So cool!
Great pro league series. Reminded me a lot of korean proleague a long time ago.
Hopefully Serral and Stats can join as well. TY and Dark had already chosen their team.
Why would Serral ever want to join this league? It's just actually not at all convenient for European players.
Because the match has to play on Korea server, so it is not suitable for player who lives on Europe or America. However, since Nogret has a team house in Korea, anyone who lives there can play, such as Special and Scarlett, and probably Astrea next season. Actually I hear rumor that the billionaire owners of KaiZi and DPG said they would try to contact Serral and Neeb with very high salary before, but I don't hear any subsequent results at all.
It's a rumor, scboy said they don't want their billionaire friends to use too high salary to disrupt the market.
"We don't want people to invest too much money in SC2" is very much a Chinese only problem.
If that money is spent on tournaments instead of individual salaries it would be much harder to invest "too much".
On October 14 2019 01:26 TheOneAboveU wrote: This league was already worth it for this match, we would've never gotten this any other way. So cool!
Great pro league series. Reminded me a lot of korean proleague a long time ago.
Hopefully Serral and Stats can join as well. TY and Dark had already chosen their team.
Why would Serral ever want to join this league? It's just actually not at all convenient for European players.
Because the match has to play on Korea server, so it is not suitable for player who lives on Europe or America. However, since Nogret has a team house in Korea, anyone who lives there can play, such as Special and Scarlett, and probably Astrea next season. Actually I hear rumor that the billionaire owners of KaiZi and DPG said they would try to contact Serral and Neeb with very high salary before, but I don't hear any subsequent results at all.
It's a rumor, scboy said they don't want their billionaire friends to use too high salary to disrupt the market.
"We don't want people to invest too much money in SC2" is very much a Chinese only problem.
If that money is spent on tournaments instead of individual salaries it would be much harder to invest "too much".
Exactly! Up the pricepool, maybe Foreigners come running to this all on their own
I think we should be happy that some rich guys are willing to pay some of the best koreans to play in this league. I mean, thats the first big teamleague we have since 2016! If the league is successful, there will be more sponsers.
On October 15 2019 05:31 kubaPS wrote: I think we should be happy that some rich guys are willing to pay some of the best koreans to play in this league. I mean, thats the first big teamleague we have since 2016! If the league is successful, there will be more sponsers.
Indeed.
Without this league many of the korean pros would me making much less money, aspiring pros would have less of a chance to join a good team and becoming pros and we would not have great content.
I'm glad this crazy ass rich chinese dudes like starcraft.
On October 15 2019 05:31 kubaPS wrote: I think we should be happy that some rich guys are willing to pay some of the best koreans to play in this league. I mean, thats the first big teamleague we have since 2016! If the league is successful, there will be more sponsers.
Absolutely. I think CTC is the best thing to happen to SC2 in 2019.