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[GSL 2019] Season 3 - Ro16 Group D

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Pandemona *
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 06 2019 07:42 GMT
#1

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Group D


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(P)Classic vs (Z)RagnaroK
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(P)Dear vs (P)Zest


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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 06 2019 07:42 GMT
#2
Poll: Who Advances?

Zest & Classic (7)
 
26%

Dear & Classic (6)
 
22%

Classic & RagnaroK (5)
 
19%

RagnaroK & Zest (4)
 
15%

Dear & RagnaroK (3)
 
11%

Zest & Dear (2)
 
7%

27 total votes

Your vote: Who Advances?

(Vote): Dear & Classic
(Vote): RagnaroK & Zest
(Vote): Classic & RagnaroK
(Vote): Zest & Dear
(Vote): Dear & RagnaroK
(Vote): Zest & Classic

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darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3515 Posts
September 06 2019 08:06 GMT
#3
I really hope Dear can finally overcome his nemesis Zest and make a good run this season :D
kajtarp
Profile Joined April 2011
Hungary485 Posts
September 06 2019 08:43 GMT
#4
i hope Ragnarok goes trough.
Why so serious?
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4955 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-06 09:42:54
September 06 2019 09:42 GMT
#5
Dear amd Ragna booiiis
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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CreightonOlsen
Profile Blog Joined September 2018
United States366 Posts
September 06 2019 12:08 GMT
#6
Hope i can brave the typhoon tomorrow to get to the studio. Surprised they are still putting the games on, to be honest. Winds up to 162 kph are possible...
https://www.twitch.tv/CreightonOlsen
Conut
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1026 Posts
September 06 2019 14:32 GMT
#7
Rag has only pvz nice way to prep
Sc2 always got your back
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26068 Posts
September 06 2019 14:47 GMT
#8
Hoping for some good PvP PvZ builds to steal if nothing else, pretty interesting group

I’ll just assume Classic will make it through as he always seems to find a way lately, and I guess Rag might have a decent shot given he’s only prepping one matchup, and I wouldn’t have this group as being too scary in terms of PvZers in this field
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
September 06 2019 16:54 GMT
#9
On September 06 2019 21:08 CreightonOlsen wrote:
Hope i can brave the typhoon tomorrow to get to the studio. Surprised they are still putting the games on, to be honest. Winds up to 162 kph are possible...

Keep save. Here in Eu we just hear about hurricane Dorian in US, but nothing about Typhoons in Korea...
MaxPax
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-06 17:56:46
September 06 2019 17:22 GMT
#10
Wrong thread but let’s go Ragnarok!!
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States878 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-06 17:52:14
September 06 2019 17:43 GMT
#11
Edit: Wrong thread.
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 06 2019 18:24 GMT
#12
I don't see Dear getting out with PvPs against Zest and Classic. Classic is the best player here but in a bo3 I can see Zest or Rag pulling it off
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10093 Posts
September 07 2019 04:07 GMT
#13
i would love to see Ragnagod in the ro8
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10093 Posts
September 07 2019 04:38 GMT
#14
sick read by ragnagod
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 07 2019 04:41 GMT
#15
Maru's happy knowing he can't get Classic in the ro8 and now has an even easier path to the finals
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
September 07 2019 05:30 GMT
#16
Zest vs Ragnarok.

The game of throws.
why even
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
September 07 2019 05:46 GMT
#17
With the patch and now Ragnarok in the RO8 Maru's chances of winning his 5th GSL have risen considerably.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4955 Posts
September 07 2019 06:08 GMT
#18
DT fiesta today
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2655 Posts
September 07 2019 06:45 GMT
#19
Protoss being the worst designed race really shows by having the worst mirror.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7384 Posts
September 07 2019 06:46 GMT
#20
I'm not gonna lie I didn't even know Zest hadn't gone off to the military, I feel like I haven't seen him since like 2016
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-07 06:58:18
September 07 2019 06:56 GMT
#21
i was 0/2 on my last predictions. no idea what's going to happen here lol. amazing group tho
picked dear/classic but i already feel like ragnorak is getting out first ughhhhhh
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darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3515 Posts
September 07 2019 06:58 GMT
#22
Welp Dear vs Zest the age old Story of getting denied continues
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1927 Posts
September 07 2019 07:01 GMT
#23
On September 07 2019 15:45 Lexender wrote:
Protoss being the worst designed race really shows by having the worst mirror.


I still saw a lot of different openings and tech options in pvp, though, I think zvz is around the same level if you are not a Zerg player.

Zest's pvp was really impressive today!
Buff the siegetank
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
September 07 2019 07:35 GMT
#24
Well Maru's road to the finals looks pretty free now.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1927 Posts
September 07 2019 08:34 GMT
#25
On September 07 2019 16:35 Elentos wrote:
Well Maru's road to the finals looks pretty free now.


I am not so sure, his play looked sketchy at times in his group, and he is very beatable in both tvz and tvt.
Buff the siegetank
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7384 Posts
September 07 2019 08:44 GMT
#26
On September 07 2019 17:34 Slydie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2019 16:35 Elentos wrote:
Well Maru's road to the finals looks pretty free now.


I am not so sure, his play looked sketchy at times in his group, and he is very beatable in both tvz and tvt.


He seems most vulnerable early, when he's in the later rounds doesn't he basically crush it?
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
September 07 2019 08:53 GMT
#27
any good PvZs? slept through the whole group.

predicting a TY vs Keen finals
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-07 08:59:25
September 07 2019 08:58 GMT
#28
On September 07 2019 17:34 Slydie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2019 16:35 Elentos wrote:
Well Maru's road to the finals looks pretty free now.


I am not so sure, his play looked sketchy at times in his group, and he is very beatable in both tvz and tvt.

He looked vulnerable in groups the 4 times he won GSL too. The only Terran on his side of the bracket is KeeN who should not advance another round.

Maru's winrate against Zerg in best of 3+ series is nearly 90%. He's not that beatable.
On September 07 2019 17:53 Schelim wrote:
predicting a TY vs Keen finals

Maybe you should go back to bed
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Quasarrion
Profile Joined July 2018
60 Posts
September 07 2019 09:22 GMT
#29
Zest's pvp was really impressive today!


Zest's pvp is always impressive.
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1927 Posts
September 07 2019 10:05 GMT
#30
On September 07 2019 17:44 Zambrah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2019 17:34 Slydie wrote:
On September 07 2019 16:35 Elentos wrote:
Well Maru's road to the finals looks pretty free now.


I am not so sure, his play looked sketchy at times in his group, and he is very beatable in both tvz and tvt.


He seems most vulnerable early, when he's in the later rounds doesn't he basically crush it?


Ragnarok just needs to figure out to win the proxyrax games, which will inevitably come and have been a wingrabber for Maru. Maru needs to figure out how to win tvz lategame, which I think is a lot more difficult.
Buff the siegetank
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-07 10:14:50
September 07 2019 10:14 GMT
#31
On September 07 2019 19:05 Slydie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2019 17:44 Zambrah wrote:
On September 07 2019 17:34 Slydie wrote:
On September 07 2019 16:35 Elentos wrote:
Well Maru's road to the finals looks pretty free now.


I am not so sure, his play looked sketchy at times in his group, and he is very beatable in both tvz and tvt.


He seems most vulnerable early, when he's in the later rounds doesn't he basically crush it?


Ragnarok just needs to figure out to win the proxyrax games, which will inevitably come and have been a wingrabber for Maru. Maru needs to figure out how to win tvz lategame, which I think is a lot more difficult.

Do you think it's that easy to figure out? Because I don't. Maru's been doing those builds for a long time and he still wins most of the time. Because even if 2-rax doesn't do that much it's still fine to play things out. I don't think RagnaroK can just suddenly find the complete and total perfect shutdown for proxy 2-rax that nobody else has ever found, and do so in less than half a week.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26068 Posts
September 07 2019 12:17 GMT
#32
On September 07 2019 16:01 Slydie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2019 15:45 Lexender wrote:
Protoss being the worst designed race really shows by having the worst mirror.


I still saw a lot of different openings and tech options in pvp, though, I think zvz is around the same level if you are not a Zerg player.

Zest's pvp was really impressive today!

It’s just a different mirror, they all have their merits to me nowadays, whereas in the past PvP was just kind of bad.

Nowadays I like that it’s very strategic and improvisational, plus there are a lot of small unit skirmishes so Protoss can really micro their hearts out in a way that you can’t when armies approx max.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
September 07 2019 13:32 GMT
#33
Wow a 2 page GSL group?
Everyone to tired from watching WCS Montreal?
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Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1927 Posts
September 07 2019 15:27 GMT
#34
On September 07 2019 22:32 Nakajin wrote:
Wow a 2 page GSL group?
Everyone to tired from watching WCS Montreal?


Bad time for both NA and EU, not even that great for Asia...
Buff the siegetank
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
September 07 2019 16:27 GMT
#35
On September 07 2019 16:35 Elentos wrote:
Well Maru's road to the finals looks pretty free now.


Classic had no chanches against Maru anyway, his PvT is relatively weak.
TY not winning his group was what made Maru's road to the finals considerably easier; Ragnarok is a dark horse, I doubt he will eliminate Maru at all but his ZvT is nice and he is on the rise, he's the darkest of horses and he could surprise us.

Classic has been underestimated for the majority of his career while this year he was actually overrated: I personally found he wasn't playing great Starcraft(Gumiho horribly threw the series at Super Tournament, for example, and he won most of his PvZ cheesing and abusing timing pushes), but Classic's results were still good and consistent enough to make him the best Protoss in Korea; he wasn't really superior to the pack, just the best among them, unlike many were saying.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-07 16:43:42
September 07 2019 16:42 GMT
#36
On September 08 2019 01:27 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2019 16:35 Elentos wrote:
Well Maru's road to the finals looks pretty free now.


Classic had no chanches against Maru anyway, his PvT is relatively weak.

I've been meaning to ask for a while, where do you take the extra h in chance from? Is that a thing in Italian or just an honest mistake?

That aside I think there's a case for Classic to have been the worst PvT player in the group so I wasn't necessarily talking about him.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
September 07 2019 16:51 GMT
#37
On September 08 2019 01:42 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2019 01:27 Xain0n wrote:
On September 07 2019 16:35 Elentos wrote:
Well Maru's road to the finals looks pretty free now.


Classic had no chanches against Maru anyway, his PvT is relatively weak.

I've been meaning to ask for a while, where do you take the extra h in chance from? Is that a thing in Italian or just an honest mistake?

That aside I think there's a case for Classic to have been the worst PvT player in the group so I wasn't necessarily talking about him.


I am not even realizing I am writing that, I must have written it once and endlessly repeated due to autofill! Thank you for making me notice, Italian language has nothing to do with the extra h.

Zest beating Maru in 2019? I don't think so.
Dear might beat Maru in a weekender I guess, but in Code S...he wasted the best occasion he had.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-07 17:06:19
September 07 2019 17:06 GMT
#38
On September 08 2019 01:51 Xain0n wrote:
Zest beating Maru in 2019? I don't think so.



Also I just realized you can turn a smiley into a link wow such technology. Anyway I just think Zerg players have a much worse shot than Protoss players against Maru.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
September 07 2019 17:12 GMT
#39
On September 08 2019 02:06 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2019 01:51 Xain0n wrote:
Zest beating Maru in 2019? I don't think so.



Also I just realized you can turn a smiley into a link wow such technology. Anyway I just think Zerg players have a much worse shot than Protoss players against Maru.


Not sure, they just have to play like MeokaikA. Maru loses to Protoss outside of Code S and slaughters them in Code S, I think Zerg may have a better chanCe.

Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
September 07 2019 17:24 GMT
#40
On September 08 2019 02:12 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2019 02:06 Elentos wrote:
On September 08 2019 01:51 Xain0n wrote:
Zest beating Maru in 2019? I don't think so.



Also I just realized you can turn a smiley into a link wow such technology. Anyway I just think Zerg players have a much worse shot than Protoss players against Maru.


Not sure, they just have to play like MeokaikA. Maru loses to Protoss outside of Code S and slaughters them in Code S, I think Zerg may have a better chanCe.


Meomaika only all-ins and I think Zerg all-ins against Terran are mostly pretty crappy. But Rag can be my guest and try to cheese Maru every game. That'd at least be something to laugh at.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
September 07 2019 17:36 GMT
#41
On September 08 2019 02:24 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2019 02:12 Xain0n wrote:
On September 08 2019 02:06 Elentos wrote:
On September 08 2019 01:51 Xain0n wrote:
Zest beating Maru in 2019? I don't think so.



Also I just realized you can turn a smiley into a link wow such technology. Anyway I just think Zerg players have a much worse shot than Protoss players against Maru.


Not sure, they just have to play like MeokaikA. Maru loses to Protoss outside of Code S and slaughters them in Code S, I think Zerg may have a better chanCe.


Meomaika only all-ins and I think Zerg all-ins against Terran are mostly pretty crappy. But Rag can be my guest and try to cheese Maru every game. That'd at least be something to laugh at.


"Just play like MeomaikA" was kind of a meme, I'm sure you know where it comes from.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
September 07 2019 20:18 GMT
#42
Regardless of who Maru ended up playing though, players from group D have a whopping 3 days of prep time. The players from group A and B have a little under 2 weeks.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10093 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-07 20:42:53
September 07 2019 20:27 GMT
#43
wrong thread
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6996 Posts
September 09 2019 12:55 GMT
#44
any games worth watching? completely missed this
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
September 09 2019 14:04 GMT
#45
On September 09 2019 21:55 Harris1st wrote:
any games worth watching? completely missed this


if you hate protoss, you can watch classic vs ragnarok to see at worst the second best PvZer on the planet get eviscerated
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6996 Posts
September 09 2019 14:06 GMT
#46
On September 09 2019 23:04 BerserkSword wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2019 21:55 Harris1st wrote:
any games worth watching? completely missed this


if you hate protoss, you can watch classic vs ragnarok to see at worst the second best PvZer on the planet get eviscerated


Even more than Neeb vs Serral?
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 09 2019 14:52 GMT
#47
On September 07 2019 15:56 Alejandrisha wrote:
i was 0/2 on my last predictions. no idea what's going to happen here lol. amazing group tho
picked dear/classic but i already feel like ragnorak is getting out first ughhhhhh

i am so bad this -.-
get rich or die mining
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