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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-30 16:20:17
June 30 2019 16:20 GMT
#221
On July 01 2019 01:19 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2019 01:18 Fango wrote:
On July 01 2019 01:16 Elentos wrote:
On July 01 2019 01:15 Fango wrote:
On July 01 2019 01:12 Xain0n wrote:
On July 01 2019 00:52 deacon.frost wrote:
On July 01 2019 00:44 AttackZerg wrote:
On July 01 2019 00:38 Ej_ wrote:
On July 01 2019 00:37 AttackZerg wrote:
I do not see Jaedong, Effort or Soulkey in the korean zergs. They all seem fallible.

None of them look convincing zvp or zvt (to me). Dark looked good and bad in both the r04 and finals zvp.

I don't think the best player in the world atm, is a zerg player but I don't think the korean zergs are clearly the best.

doesn't matter what you look like, it matters who you beat

It matters when you are making the point that korean zergs aren't clearly the best at ZvP and ZvT and you must rely on factors other then a massive amount of head to heads to objectively draw a comparison.

You know ... the same god damn thing you are doing. Except, I am not relying on a single match or two matches to make a conclusion.

When you wade into subjective waters, you get wet.

Dude, Serral is playing a level or 2 players bellow top16 players in KOrea. Doesn't matter how it looks, Serral isn't playing anyone besides Need or mjr. Special to say he has top Zvp or ZvT. While other Zergs are playing Maru, TY, Inno, Gumi. Top 4 Terrans. Or Stats, Classic - both top Protosses. Sorry not sorry, who you [play matters. I played some really good ZvP. That doesn't mean I am good because I play in a wooden league... FFS

Serral figured out ZvT by himself last year before GSL vs The World.

To be fair, it's not like it's hard to figure out when you're against an INno doing the same thing every map. Even Lambo said it's pretty straight forward iirc

Even Lambo almost 2-0'd Maru, Korean Terrans are nothing special

Zanster*

I meant what I said.

I wasn't trying to correct you, just giving an even greater example.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
June 30 2019 16:20 GMT
#222
On July 01 2019 01:19 johnnywup wrote:
Have missed most of HSC, what games would you recommend going back to watch?

Did you see Elazer Zest game 2?
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 30 2019 16:21 GMT
#223
On July 01 2019 01:16 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2019 01:15 terribleplayer1 wrote:
I love how people use the few matches Serral lose to completely discredit him, the rest of the wins aren't meaningful but the two he lost yea 100% proves he is worst at X...

Meanwhile in aligulac...

When the only two he's lost are the only times he's played top level opponents, what else are you supposed to go with?


What? Aren't you forgetting a huge streak? The only times Serral lost was against top tier opponent(bar Heromarine) but he actually won against super strong opponents many times...
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
June 30 2019 16:21 GMT
#224
Any idea what is taking so long to start? Serral basically falling asleep whenever they show him at his computer lol
JD, need I say more? :D
Quasarrion
Profile Joined July 2018
60 Posts
June 30 2019 16:22 GMT
#225
Bunny about to cast guys Pog
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 30 2019 16:23 GMT
#226
TY vs Serral hypuuuuuuuu!
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
June 30 2019 16:23 GMT
#227
We need a Bunny, Solar, Stats, Hajinsun cast of this next series.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 30 2019 16:23 GMT
#228
On July 01 2019 01:21 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2019 01:16 Fango wrote:
On July 01 2019 01:15 terribleplayer1 wrote:
I love how people use the few matches Serral lose to completely discredit him, the rest of the wins aren't meaningful but the two he lost yea 100% proves he is worst at X...

Meanwhile in aligulac...

When the only two he's lost are the only times he's played top level opponents, what else are you supposed to go with?


What? Aren't you forgetting a huge streak? The only times Serral lost was against top tier opponent(bar Heromarine) but he actually won against super strong opponents many times...

A streak from a year ago? In 2019 he's played literally two protoss I would call elite PvZers (losing both), and three TvZers (losing 2/3).
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Need
Profile Joined March 2019
566 Posts
June 30 2019 16:24 GMT
#229
On July 01 2019 01:21 LimeNade wrote:
Any idea what is taking so long to start? Serral basically falling asleep whenever they show him at his computer lol


We're probably ahead of schedule cause of the short games
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
June 30 2019 16:25 GMT
#230
On July 01 2019 01:24 Need wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2019 01:21 LimeNade wrote:
Any idea what is taking so long to start? Serral basically falling asleep whenever they show him at his computer lol


We're probably ahead of schedule cause of the short games


Ah ok that would make sense. Was just funny just seeing Serral keep yawning
JD, need I say more? :D
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8240 Posts
June 30 2019 16:25 GMT
#231
Damn Take is rich.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 30 2019 16:26 GMT
#232
On July 01 2019 01:24 Need wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2019 01:21 LimeNade wrote:
Any idea what is taking so long to start? Serral basically falling asleep whenever they show him at his computer lol


We're probably ahead of schedule cause of the short games


They hadn't scheduled showing both lower bracket games, so I think we're actually right on schedule.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
June 30 2019 16:27 GMT
#233
Harstem macro imba
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 30 2019 16:27 GMT
#234
On July 01 2019 01:25 geokilla wrote:
Damn Take is rich.

And this is just 1 of his properties!
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8240 Posts
June 30 2019 16:27 GMT
#235
Someone throw a bomb at tAke!
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10081 Posts
June 30 2019 16:28 GMT
#236
nice micro by elazer
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
June 30 2019 16:28 GMT
#237
You can tell these guys are experts at throwing.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
June 30 2019 16:28 GMT
#238
finally, water esports
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8240 Posts
June 30 2019 16:29 GMT
#239
On July 01 2019 01:28 Elentos wrote:
You can tell these guys are experts at throwing.

They are foreigners after all
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 30 2019 16:29 GMT
#240
On July 01 2019 01:19 johnnywup wrote:
Have missed most of HSC, what games would you recommend going back to watch?

Solar vs soO on Thunderbird
Stats vs Serral on Thunderbird
Zest vs Elazer on Turbo Cruise
Heromarine vs Reynor g1 and g2
soO vs Serral g1 and g2
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
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