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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On June 27 2019 19:54 Charoisaur wrote: I think sOs has superior achievement but Mvp has nostalgia on his side so it will be close sOs is not even close to Mvp. | ||
Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
Nah, they are at least close, on point sOs was the best HOTS player and maybe the best protoss overall. 3 world championship, 1 korean championship and 3 silver in korean tournaments is at least close to 4 GSL, 1 GSL silver, 1 MLG, 1 WCS EU and a Blizzcon with just one other korean. Both player are in my top 5 personally | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On June 27 2019 20:26 Nakajin wrote: Nah, they are at least close, on point sOs was the best HOTS player and maybe the best protoss overall. 3 world championship, 1 korean championship and 3 silver in korean tournaments is at least close to 4 GSL, 1 GSL silver, 1 MLG, 1 WCS EU and a Blizzcon with just one other korean. Both player are in my top 5 personally You are forgetting one IEM and one WCG on Mvp's side. | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On June 27 2019 20:31 Xain0n wrote: You are forgetting one IEM and one WCG on Mvp's side. WCG was pretty much an AsianGame situation I don't think beating Kas, Bling and Xigua is particularly impressive even late 2011 and sOs MSI (almost flawless) run was more impressive than Mvp IEM Cologne. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15963 Posts
On June 27 2019 20:35 Nakajin wrote: I don't think beating Kas, Bling and Xigua is particularly impressive You're forgetting who you're talking to. In Xainon's opinion Names do not count, results do! | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
He was clearly the best player in 2011 despite it also being the best year of Nestea, MC and MMA. And I'm not even summoning Stuchiu. Not being impressed with some victories doesn't mean they can be taken out completely; also, Kas-Bling-Xigua wasn't a joke back in the days despite not being a truly glorious path. | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On June 28 2019 05:36 pvsnp wrote: Was sOs ever the undisputed "best player in the world?" Because I don't remember him ever being an overwhelming favorite even in the tournaments he won. The closest he ever got was probably late 2015 but even then it wasn't quite undisputed. | ||
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
Also, I do think the depth of competition matters so that's why I voted Stats over MC even though MC won more tournaments but in the case of Mvp and sOs, Mvp has a lot more wins, and many of them were very prestigious. | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
Match 7  PartinG: 6 votesZest: 38 votesZest goes through!Match 8 sOs: 13 votes Mvp: 31 votessOs is eliminated (bhooooo) and Mvp closes our top 8! | ||
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
On June 28 2019 05:46 Elentos wrote: The closest he ever got was probably late 2015 but even then it wasn't quite undisputed. How i wish Life didn't go for that stupid baneling bust. | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
- TaeJa- INnoVation-  soO- NesTea- Maru- Stats-. Zest- MvpWe have a bit of every era, the two dominante force in WOL in Nestea and Mvp, two HOTS great with Zest and TaeJa, the two LOTV greatest in Maru and Stats and two double expansion great with the SKT brother soO and INnovation. Terran dominate this top 8, but we are garantee at least one zerg in top4. I'm gonna make a quick placement matches round and then we are on to end this thing | ||
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Jealous
10156 Posts
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
Hope this contest gets some front page love for the final eight  | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18004 Posts
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15963 Posts
On June 30 2019 11:50 Nakajin wrote: Ladies and gentleman, your 8 greatest Starcraft 2 players of all time! This aren't the top 8 greatest players. Bracket luck plays too big of a role | ||
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RatzBarcode
United States98 Posts
On June 30 2019 17:33 Charoisaur wrote: This aren't the top 8 greatest players. Bracket luck plays too big of a role Assuming Life is banned, the only name you could possibly switch is Zest with your Protoss of choice/Solar. Solar has like 4 or 5 premiers, somehow, right? Or I guess MMA. I personally think that Classic should be up there but he ran into Innovation. the order of my protoss: Classic: second best lotv toss behind stats, had a strong late hots, especially in Proleague sOs: has the titles, has been a threat for a long time, very innovative. Parting: Even though MC has more early titles, Parting had a nice longevity, and Soul Train is STILL relevant and it's my favorite protoss build to watch and play. Zest: Really beastly in 2014. he's really disappointing and really poo now. hero is currently a bigger threat. hero: had a bad start and end to his career, bookending a bunch of poo IEMs and high profile losses MC: I know, 2 GSLs when toss sucked. nothing else truly special. I'd take Classic or sOs over solar or MMA, to replace Zest | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15963 Posts
On June 30 2019 18:01 RatzBarcode wrote: I personally think that Classic should be up there but he ran into Innovation. Exactly my point and why this "top 8" shouldn't be taken as a top 8 greatest player list. If any of the other players would have run into Inno/Maru they wouldn't be top 8 either. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
Maybe you can put sOs there but definitely not classic. Classic might not even be top 5 protoss. Rain, Stats, Hero, MC, and Parting might all be above him. | ||
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