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Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
July 01 2019 05:36 GMT
#1301
I wonder in light of Serral's recent accomplishments, his position in the "Greatest of All Time" is a tad low?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 01 2019 05:47 GMT
#1302
On July 01 2019 14:36 Azzur wrote:
I wonder in light of Serral's recent accomplishments, his position in the "Greatest of All Time" is a tad low?


He lost a close Ro32 match against Classic, and while Serral has improved his position since the vote with this HSC victory, so has Classic with another GSL round of 4. So I don't think it would necessarily have changed that match. Serral did perhaps get a bit unlucky bracket wise, but so have a number of other players.
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
July 01 2019 05:56 GMT
#1303
On July 01 2019 14:36 Azzur wrote:
I wonder in light of Serral's recent accomplishments, his position in the "Greatest of All Time" is a tad low?


It's a bit low, I agree. However his results startet showing in 2018 while other players (Classic, Stats, Inno, etc.) were successful years before him.

Had this TLGOAT thread been made a year later, who knows maybe Serral would be #1.
RatzBarcode
Profile Joined December 2013
United States98 Posts
July 01 2019 09:10 GMT
#1304
On June 30 2019 19:04 Pandain wrote:
Classic is definitely not a top 8 player rofl
Maybe you can put sOs there but definitely not classic.

Classic might not even be top 5 protoss. Rain, Stats, Hero, MC, and Parting might all be above him.


Classic has a lot of hardware, dating as far back as 2014. A GSL, an SSL, 2 ST, an IEM, 3 premier silvers.

that's more hardware than Rain, with more longevity.
hero has 3 weak IEMs, and nice but unremarkable Korean placing.
MC has 2 Gsl and a weakass EU. a red bull? that's less than classic has done.
Parting has 2 premier wins, no GSLs, and longevity, but not much else.

Classic has had himself a really nice career.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 01 2019 09:26 GMT
#1305
On July 01 2019 14:36 Azzur wrote:
I wonder in light of Serral's recent accomplishments, his position in the "Greatest of All Time" is a tad low?


Right now I'd say he's somewhere between 15-20.

If he repeats his run last year with an equally impressive accomplishment, (lets say winning Blizzcon, HSC 20, GSL vs the world, all WCS stops, and the Asus) he's probably the GOAT
Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
July 01 2019 09:33 GMT
#1306
On July 01 2019 18:26 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2019 14:36 Azzur wrote:
I wonder in light of Serral's recent accomplishments, his position in the "Greatest of All Time" is a tad low?


Right now I'd say he's somewhere between 15-20.

If he repeats his run last year with an equally impressive accomplishment, (lets say winning Blizzcon, HSC 20, GSL vs the world, all WCS stops, and the Asus) he's probably the GOAT


Only problem is we've never seen him in a prep based tournament. If he only won blizzcon and then hopped over to Korea to get a GSL I'd instantly out him as the GOAT.
RatzBarcode
Profile Joined December 2013
United States98 Posts
July 01 2019 09:33 GMT
#1307
On July 01 2019 18:26 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2019 14:36 Azzur wrote:
I wonder in light of Serral's recent accomplishments, his position in the "Greatest of All Time" is a tad low?


Right now I'd say he's somewhere between 15-20.

If he repeats his run last year with an equally impressive accomplishment, (lets say winning Blizzcon, HSC 20, GSL vs the world, all WCS stops, and the Asus) he's probably the GOAT


I know it's not in the logistics but I think the GOAT needs at least one GSL proper, or an OSL SSL equivalent.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
July 01 2019 10:33 GMT
#1308
On July 01 2019 18:33 RatzBarcode wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2019 18:26 Pandain wrote:
On July 01 2019 14:36 Azzur wrote:
I wonder in light of Serral's recent accomplishments, his position in the "Greatest of All Time" is a tad low?


Right now I'd say he's somewhere between 15-20.

If he repeats his run last year with an equally impressive accomplishment, (lets say winning Blizzcon, HSC 20, GSL vs the world, all WCS stops, and the Asus) he's probably the GOAT


I know it's not in the logistics but I think the GOAT needs at least one GSL proper, or an OSL SSL equivalent.

In the end it's the thing that broke Taeja's case
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18190 Posts
July 01 2019 11:17 GMT
#1309
It's almost two different games. It'd be great if there were some form of preparation tournaments outside of Korea, as it takes a lot (too much?) to uproot yourself and move to Korea for an extended period just to play in 1 tournament. Especially as he'd probably be losing money in order to do so.

I'm also fairly certain that right now his fans care far more about him being the GOAT than he himself does.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-02 03:20:37
July 01 2019 12:32 GMT
#1310
Alright before we start our top 8, let's try to rank spot 15 to 7.
Theses polls are closed

Match 1
Poll: Who is the greatest player?

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☐ sOs
☐ Solar



Match 2
Poll: Who is the greatest player?

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☐ Parting
☐ Classic



Match 3
Poll: Who is the greatest player?

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☐ MC
☐ herO



Match 4
Poll: Who is the greatest player?

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☐ MMA
☐ Polt



Polls are open until either tonight or tomorrow morning depending of my schedule.
[b]Theses polls are closed[b]
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10260 Posts
July 01 2019 12:39 GMT
#1311
No BitByBit means this whole system is rigged btw.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
July 01 2019 13:17 GMT
#1312
On July 01 2019 18:10 RatzBarcode wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2019 19:04 Pandain wrote:
Classic is definitely not a top 8 player rofl
Maybe you can put sOs there but definitely not classic.

Classic might not even be top 5 protoss. Rain, Stats, Hero, MC, and Parting might all be above him.


Classic has a lot of hardware, dating as far back as 2014. A GSL, an SSL, 2 ST, an IEM, 3 premier silvers.

that's more hardware than Rain, with more longevity.
hero has 3 weak IEMs, and nice but unremarkable Korean placing.
MC has 2 Gsl and a weakass EU. a red bull? that's less than classic has done.
Parting has 2 premier wins, no GSLs, and longevity, but not much else.

Classic has had himself a really nice career.

What a relief to see another Classic fan, greatest protoss in my opinion. Classic is still heavily underestimated and he has been for his whole career, Stats in the only one that can reasonably be argued to be ahead of him if you ask me.

Still besides Taeja and Nestea I think this BO8 looks pretty good
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18190 Posts
July 01 2019 14:00 GMT
#1313
Polt vs MMA. Tough call.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 01 2019 21:24 GMT
#1314
On July 01 2019 23:00 Acrofales wrote:
Polt vs MMA. Tough call.


MMA's got an additional Premier tournament win over Polt, and he's been a much stronger team league player. Polt is one of the most accomplished Terrans of all time, but MMA's got the edge
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
RatzBarcode
Profile Joined December 2013
United States98 Posts
July 02 2019 02:03 GMT
#1315
Taeja was the most feared player besides Life at one point. but I'll never understand how he didn't win a WCS AM at least. who the hell was knocking him out?
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-02 03:35:47
July 02 2019 03:27 GMT
#1316
Results:

Match 1

(Z)Solar: 1 vote
(P)sOs: 30 votes

(P)sOs goes through, and we officially have only 2 zerg in our top 12 (barring a certain somebody)

Match 2

(P)PartinG: 6 votes
(P)Classic: 25 votes

(P)Classic goes through!

Match 3

(P)MC: 24 votes
(P)herO: 7 votes

(P)MC goes through!

Match 4

(T)MMA: 23 votes
(T)Polt:6 votes

(T)MMA goes through!
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-03 02:54:47
July 02 2019 03:38 GMT
#1317
Let's round up our top 10
Theses polls are closed
Match 5

Poll: Who is the greatest player

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☐ sOs
☐ Classic



Match 6

Poll: Who is the greatest player

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☐ MC
☐ MMA



Polls are open until tomorrow June 2 around 11 pm EST
Theses polls are closed
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Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
July 02 2019 09:18 GMT
#1318
I can't believed that I, of all people, just voted for MC
INnoVation is the absolute best | I wept for i knew his words to be true
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16022 Posts
July 02 2019 14:13 GMT
#1319
MC vs MMA is one of the closest polls imo. I voted MC but I think they are basically tied.
But none of them is a top 10 Player anyway imo. Bracket luck worked in their favor.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
July 02 2019 14:14 GMT
#1320
On July 02 2019 23:13 Charoisaur wrote:
MC vs MMA is one of the closest polls imo. I voted MC but I think they are basically tied.
But none of them is a top 10 Player anyway imo. Bracket luck worked in their favor.


I agree it's one of the closest polls; I think they are both top10 material, instead.
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