EPTI think Liquid HerO is in that weird zone where he’s either hugely overrated by his fans, and almost underrated by many others in response to that, when he was actually pretty damn good, plus did develop play styles that were influential. Still loses out to soO no contest despite being my favourite player.
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27029 Posts
I think Liquid HerO is in that weird zone where he’s either hugely overrated by his fans, and almost underrated by many others in response to that, when he was actually pretty damn good, plus did develop play styles that were influential. Still loses out to soO no contest despite being my favourite player. | ||
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Elentos
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Dave4
494 Posts
Unfortunate Serral has so many haters. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27029 Posts
On May 20 2019 07:53 Dave4 wrote: And now we see why Serral deserved to go on, not Classic. Unfortunate Serral has so many haters. It was pretty damn impressive to watch, it didn’t really add anything to me, just Serral doing more of what he does vs foreigners. Was his peak form in GSL vs the World and Blizzcon where he did it vs Korea’s best that made me (slightly) favour him over Classic, I won’t have any more stuff to add to that body of work until those tournaments come up again. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
That should be waay closer. | ||
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JJH777
United States4418 Posts
On May 20 2019 07:53 Dave4 wrote: And now we see why Serral deserved to go on, not Classic. Unfortunate Serral has so many haters. If you put Classic through the same lineup of players that Serral went through Classic gets through them just as easily. This run told us nothing that we didn't already know. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On May 20 2019 08:32 JJH777 wrote: If you put Classic through the same lineup of players that Serral went through Classic gets through them just as easily. This run told us nothing that we didn't already know. Reynor? Special? Are you sure? | ||
Nakajin
Canada8990 Posts
On May 20 2019 07:53 Dave4 wrote: And now we see why Serral deserved to go on, not Classic. Unfortunate Serral has so many haters. Classic hasn't play his hand yet tho, this GSL my be his | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27029 Posts
On May 20 2019 08:32 Xain0n wrote: HerO being down 1-48 against soO? That should be waay closer. Should be to zero. As I said my favourite player, was actually at that first Dreamhack he won, as a chain smoker myself I saw lots of him that tournament, met Idra and Ret too. Regardless I don’t see an argument one can construct that he beats soO | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27029 Posts
Maybe he does maybe he doesn’t. Winning 5 with one runner’s up and this latest one not even breaking a sweat I’m not sure. Serral is ridiculous in 2/3 matchups and his vT is, while relatively worse is still pretty crazy too. I wouldn’t count out Classic for being able to do by any means, would be pretty hard for any player though. You have to be basically unsnipable in any particular matchup, or hope that your threats are struggling in a matchup. You basically have to go in being in shape in all 3, or one of Neeb/Special or Serral/Scarlett can account for your tournament if their vP is in a good place, or a whole bunch of dangerous floaters. I still think Classic absolutely could do it, I just don’t think it’s the nothing achievement some people make out | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
It's kinda funny that Classic has lost the last series he's played against Reynor and Special. But regardless winning a fifth WCS only slightly bolsters Serral's achievement portfolio. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On May 20 2019 09:10 Wombat_NI wrote: Maybe he does maybe he doesn’t. Winning 5 with one runner’s up and this latest one not even breaking a sweat I’m not sure. Serral is ridiculous in 2/3 matchups and his vT is, while relatively worse is still pretty crazy too. I wouldn’t count out Classic for being able to do by any means, would be pretty hard for any player though. You have to be basically unsnipable in any particular matchup, or hope that your threats are struggling in a matchup. You basically have to go in being in shape in all 3, or one of Neeb/Special or Serral/Scarlett can account for your tournament if their vP is in a good place, or a whole bunch of dangerous floaters. I still think Classic absolutely could do it, I just don’t think it’s the nothing achievement some people make out I was speaking of this last WCS only, Classic would have probably beaten Reynor and Special but they created him problems in the past, it wouldn't have been easy. As for the five consecutive WCS, my answer is a firm no. Classic didn't really look hot last summer, he was kind of struggling against foreign Zerg. | ||
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Jealous
10336 Posts
On May 20 2019 07:53 Dave4 wrote: And now we see why Serral deserved to go on, not Classic. Unfortunate Serral has so many haters. You're right, I'm sure that the community in the foremost foreigner and English-speaking site on the planet didn't give Serral a fair chance  | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8990 Posts
On May 20 2019 07:53 Dave4 wrote: And now we see why Serral deserved to go on, not Classic. Unfortunate Serral has so many haters. User was temp banned for this post. 44 pages before a ban guys, I'm proud of y'all. | ||
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Azzur
Australia6267 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On May 20 2019 13:17 Azzur wrote: Tbh, if I was Serral, I am happy that the community has voted against me. It'll spur me on to greater heights. Community praise is also a curse (e.g. see Power Rank) So if Classic drops out of his Ro16 group we know we're to blame. | ||
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-Kyo-
Japan1926 Posts
On May 20 2019 11:29 Nakajin wrote: 44 pages before a ban guy, I'm proud of y'all. Honestly surprised he even got temp banned for just posting his opinion, especially when he posted it after Serral won an event O.o + Show Spoiler + like, his post isn't even aggressive or negative in regards to classic - just that he thinks classic deserved something less than some1 who just won an event o.o...?wut Coulda made it even further  | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On May 20 2019 13:34 -Kyo- wrote: Honestly surprised he even got temp banned for just posting his opinion, especially when he posted it after Serral won an event O.o + Show Spoiler + like, his post isn't even aggressive or negative in regards to classic - just that he thinks classic deserved something less than some1 who just won an event o.o...?wut Coulda made it even further It probably has to do with the fact that dave has been permabanned before for literally making posts only about Serral and lowkey insulting anyone who isn't Serral fanboy Truly a lunatic | ||
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-Kyo-
Japan1926 Posts
On May 20 2019 13:38 Ej_ wrote: It probably has to do with the fact that dave has been permabanned before for literally making posts only about Serral and lowkey insulting anyone who isn't Serral fanboy Truly a lunatic dang is that why he is on #4 now? poor dave | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18326 Posts
This site is weird. It's like there's an anti-liquid-bias to compensate for the liquid-bias the staff has? I mean, soO probably should win it, but in terms of actual prizes, HerO has him quite solidly beaten. People really ranking seconds places highly. | ||
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