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From what I've seen, despite all of them having shown the ability to put on a TvT masterclass, the wins usually go like
Inno > Maru > TY > Inno
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On March 16 2019 18:40 BerserkSword wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2019 18:37 sneakyfox wrote:On March 16 2019 18:35 BerserkSword wrote:On March 16 2019 18:30 Poopi wrote:On March 16 2019 18:29 BerserkSword wrote:On March 16 2019 18:26 StasisField wrote:
You know, if the Serral vs Maru final keeps getting ruined by Maru, maybe he's not the best player after all ;P I dont know how anyone who actually watched starcraft last year thought Maru was better than peak Serral Serral was just ridiculous Yeah absolutely impressive to destroy MaNa Has and all these great players lol, I've never seen that happen before!  3-0 inno 3-1 dark 4-3 stats 2-0 zest 3-0 dark 3-1 rogue 4-2 stats top koreans got destroyed by peak serral "If we ignore the matches he lost, Serral has a perfect record against top Koreans, isn't it incredible?!" Nobody in 2018 was better than the way Serral was playing when he went on to win the biggest and prestigious tournament in starcraft 2 Serral was the juggernaut, Maru was the dude who got swept trying to proxy over and over
It's funny how blizzcon was never the biggest of deals over GSL until a foreigner won it. PartinG, sOs (twice), Life, and Rogue all won it and none were considered the best player of that year.
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On March 16 2019 18:43 pvsnp wrote:
From what I've seen, despite all of them having shown the ability to put on a TvT masterclass, the wins usually go like
Inno > Maru > TY > Inno
btw Mvp > Polt > MMA > Mvp has indeed been a long time lol
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On March 16 2019 18:44 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2019 18:40 BerserkSword wrote:On March 16 2019 18:37 sneakyfox wrote:On March 16 2019 18:35 BerserkSword wrote:On March 16 2019 18:30 Poopi wrote:On March 16 2019 18:29 BerserkSword wrote:On March 16 2019 18:26 StasisField wrote:
You know, if the Serral vs Maru final keeps getting ruined by Maru, maybe he's not the best player after all ;P I dont know how anyone who actually watched starcraft last year thought Maru was better than peak Serral Serral was just ridiculous Yeah absolutely impressive to destroy MaNa Has and all these great players lol, I've never seen that happen before! 3-0 inno 3-1 dark 4-3 stats 2-0 zest 3-0 dark 3-1 rogue 4-2 stats top koreans got destroyed by peak serral "If we ignore the matches he lost, Serral has a perfect record against top Koreans, isn't it incredible?!" Nobody in 2018 was better than the way Serral was playing when he went on to win the biggest and prestigious tournament in starcraft 2 Serral was the juggernaut, Maru was the dude who got swept trying to proxy over and over It's funny how blizzcon was never the biggest of deals over GSL until a foreigner won it. PartinG, sOs (twice), Life, and Rogue all won it and none were considered the best player of that year.
Life was considered a god ffs, he even went on to win the next season of GSL, everyone saw him as the strongest player that year
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On March 16 2019 18:41 AzAlexZ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2019 18:38 ThxSub~ wrote:
I like how Maru can get 2-0'd by a complete no name, just after losing to Bunny in GSL, just after losing to Neeb and a bunch of second tier koreans in IEM, just after getting 3-0'd in a silly way at the world finals, just after losing the korean tournament that serral won, just after losing the team match to Serral ...
and people still act like Maru is an absolute God and we JUST NEED that Maru-Serral final. Neeb is one of the best foreigners though.... he is the only person in this tournament to beat Serral mind you
you know...may be we should stop judging one player's mistake for thier current forms
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On March 16 2019 18:46 AzAlexZ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2019 18:44 Fango wrote:On March 16 2019 18:40 BerserkSword wrote:On March 16 2019 18:37 sneakyfox wrote:On March 16 2019 18:35 BerserkSword wrote:On March 16 2019 18:30 Poopi wrote:On March 16 2019 18:29 BerserkSword wrote:On March 16 2019 18:26 StasisField wrote:
You know, if the Serral vs Maru final keeps getting ruined by Maru, maybe he's not the best player after all ;P I dont know how anyone who actually watched starcraft last year thought Maru was better than peak Serral Serral was just ridiculous Yeah absolutely impressive to destroy MaNa Has and all these great players lol, I've never seen that happen before! 3-0 inno 3-1 dark 4-3 stats 2-0 zest 3-0 dark 3-1 rogue 4-2 stats top koreans got destroyed by peak serral "If we ignore the matches he lost, Serral has a perfect record against top Koreans, isn't it incredible?!" Nobody in 2018 was better than the way Serral was playing when he went on to win the biggest and prestigious tournament in starcraft 2 Serral was the juggernaut, Maru was the dude who got swept trying to proxy over and over It's funny how blizzcon was never the biggest of deals over GSL until a foreigner won it. PartinG, sOs (twice), Life, and Rogue all won it and none were considered the best player of that year. Life was considered a god ffs, he even went on to win the next season of GSL, everyone saw him as the strongest player that year
If Life was considered the best player of 2014 then I'm the fucking queen of england
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On March 16 2019 18:41 agsub wrote:
What happened to the Maru that beat TY in a GSL final...sigh....
A patch that changed everything about early game TvT. Maru's builds were really bad against inno's cyclone openings on top of a lot of mistakes in the very early stages of the game.
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On March 16 2019 18:46 AzAlexZ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2019 18:44 Fango wrote:On March 16 2019 18:40 BerserkSword wrote:On March 16 2019 18:37 sneakyfox wrote:On March 16 2019 18:35 BerserkSword wrote:On March 16 2019 18:30 Poopi wrote:On March 16 2019 18:29 BerserkSword wrote:On March 16 2019 18:26 StasisField wrote:
You know, if the Serral vs Maru final keeps getting ruined by Maru, maybe he's not the best player after all ;P I dont know how anyone who actually watched starcraft last year thought Maru was better than peak Serral Serral was just ridiculous Yeah absolutely impressive to destroy MaNa Has and all these great players lol, I've never seen that happen before! 3-0 inno 3-1 dark 4-3 stats 2-0 zest 3-0 dark 3-1 rogue 4-2 stats top koreans got destroyed by peak serral "If we ignore the matches he lost, Serral has a perfect record against top Koreans, isn't it incredible?!" Nobody in 2018 was better than the way Serral was playing when he went on to win the biggest and prestigious tournament in starcraft 2 Serral was the juggernaut, Maru was the dude who got swept trying to proxy over and over It's funny how blizzcon was never the biggest of deals over GSL until a foreigner won it. PartinG, sOs (twice), Life, and Rogue all won it and none were considered the best player of that year. Life was considered a god ffs, he even went on to win the next season of GSL, everyone saw him as the strongest player that year
No they didn't. Zest and soO were the best players that year by a fucking mile.
Life was considered the best on 2015, which happened to be the year sos won blizzcon.
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On March 16 2019 18:47 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2019 18:46 AzAlexZ wrote:On March 16 2019 18:44 Fango wrote:On March 16 2019 18:40 BerserkSword wrote:On March 16 2019 18:37 sneakyfox wrote:On March 16 2019 18:35 BerserkSword wrote:On March 16 2019 18:30 Poopi wrote:On March 16 2019 18:29 BerserkSword wrote:On March 16 2019 18:26 StasisField wrote:
You know, if the Serral vs Maru final keeps getting ruined by Maru, maybe he's not the best player after all ;P I dont know how anyone who actually watched starcraft last year thought Maru was better than peak Serral Serral was just ridiculous Yeah absolutely impressive to destroy MaNa Has and all these great players lol, I've never seen that happen before! 3-0 inno 3-1 dark 4-3 stats 2-0 zest 3-0 dark 3-1 rogue 4-2 stats top koreans got destroyed by peak serral "If we ignore the matches he lost, Serral has a perfect record against top Koreans, isn't it incredible?!" Nobody in 2018 was better than the way Serral was playing when he went on to win the biggest and prestigious tournament in starcraft 2 Serral was the juggernaut, Maru was the dude who got swept trying to proxy over and over It's funny how blizzcon was never the biggest of deals over GSL until a foreigner won it. PartinG, sOs (twice), Life, and Rogue all won it and none were considered the best player of that year. Life was considered a god ffs, he even went on to win the next season of GSL, everyone saw him as the strongest player that year If Life was considered the best player of 2014 then I'm the fucking queen of england
Well it was either him or Zest.
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On March 16 2019 18:48 AzAlexZ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2019 18:47 Durnuu wrote:On March 16 2019 18:46 AzAlexZ wrote:On March 16 2019 18:44 Fango wrote:On March 16 2019 18:40 BerserkSword wrote:On March 16 2019 18:37 sneakyfox wrote:On March 16 2019 18:35 BerserkSword wrote:On March 16 2019 18:30 Poopi wrote:On March 16 2019 18:29 BerserkSword wrote:On March 16 2019 18:26 StasisField wrote:
You know, if the Serral vs Maru final keeps getting ruined by Maru, maybe he's not the best player after all ;P I dont know how anyone who actually watched starcraft last year thought Maru was better than peak Serral Serral was just ridiculous Yeah absolutely impressive to destroy MaNa Has and all these great players lol, I've never seen that happen before! 3-0 inno 3-1 dark 4-3 stats 2-0 zest 3-0 dark 3-1 rogue 4-2 stats top koreans got destroyed by peak serral "If we ignore the matches he lost, Serral has a perfect record against top Koreans, isn't it incredible?!" Nobody in 2018 was better than the way Serral was playing when he went on to win the biggest and prestigious tournament in starcraft 2 Serral was the juggernaut, Maru was the dude who got swept trying to proxy over and over It's funny how blizzcon was never the biggest of deals over GSL until a foreigner won it. PartinG, sOs (twice), Life, and Rogue all won it and none were considered the best player of that year. Life was considered a god ffs, he even went on to win the next season of GSL, everyone saw him as the strongest player that year If Life was considered the best player of 2014 then I'm the fucking queen of england Well it was either him or Zest.
Yeah, they look so alike and play such similar styles too
You were probably thinking of Blizzcon, which he did win in 2014 but at the end of a rather unspectacular year for him.
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I'm going to trigger Maru fans: the 3 GSL wins of Maru are not that impressive since first, the top Zerg and world no 1 or 2 was not participating and second, Korean talent is on decline, so don't pretend that it means as much as like in 2014 or something.
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On March 16 2019 18:43 pvsnp wrote:
From what I've seen, despite all of them having shown the ability to put on a TvT masterclass, the wins usually go like
Inno > Maru > TY > Inno
On this patch so far it's just TY > Inno > Maru
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On March 16 2019 18:49 Xitah wrote:
I'm going to trigger Maru fans: the 3 GSL wins of Maru are not that impressive since first, the top Zerg and world no 1 or 2 was not participating and second, Korean talent is on decline, so don't pretend that it means as much as like in 2014 or something.
Korean talent is definitely on decline, this is why returning players like MMA, Bomber, Taeja and MC completely crushed these wannabes when they returned.
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On March 16 2019 18:44 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2019 18:40 BerserkSword wrote:On March 16 2019 18:37 sneakyfox wrote:On March 16 2019 18:35 BerserkSword wrote:On March 16 2019 18:30 Poopi wrote:On March 16 2019 18:29 BerserkSword wrote:On March 16 2019 18:26 StasisField wrote:
You know, if the Serral vs Maru final keeps getting ruined by Maru, maybe he's not the best player after all ;P I dont know how anyone who actually watched starcraft last year thought Maru was better than peak Serral Serral was just ridiculous Yeah absolutely impressive to destroy MaNa Has and all these great players lol, I've never seen that happen before! 3-0 inno 3-1 dark 4-3 stats 2-0 zest 3-0 dark 3-1 rogue 4-2 stats top koreans got destroyed by peak serral "If we ignore the matches he lost, Serral has a perfect record against top Koreans, isn't it incredible?!" Nobody in 2018 was better than the way Serral was playing when he went on to win the biggest and prestigious tournament in starcraft 2 Serral was the juggernaut, Maru was the dude who got swept trying to proxy over and over It's funny how blizzcon was never the biggest of deals over GSL until a foreigner won it. PartinG, sOs (twice), Life, and Rogue all won it and none were considered the best player of that year.
when they won it, blizzcon didnt have a prize pool head and shoulders above everything else. the lotv era blizzcon prize pools are mammoth
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France12906 Posts
On March 16 2019 18:49 Xitah wrote:
I'm going to trigger Maru fans: the 3 GSL wins of Maru are not that impressive since first, the top Zerg and world no 1 or 2 was not participating and second, Korean talent is on decline, so don't pretend that it means as much as like in 2014 or something.
Yeah thankfully the guy who got 3-0ed by Classic and then Maru wasn't at GSL
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Maru so dissapointing, his performance looks shaky. I do believe peak Maru vs peak Inno TvT, Maru is better. Oh well at least we get a TvZ final.
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On March 16 2019 18:50 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2019 18:43 pvsnp wrote:
From what I've seen, despite all of them having shown the ability to put on a TvT masterclass, the wins usually go like
Inno > Maru > TY > Inno On this patch so far it's just TY > Inno > Maru
In LotV in offline Bo3+, TY is 13–10 (56.52%) in games and 3–2 (60.00%) in matches against Maru.
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On March 16 2019 18:53 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2019 18:49 Xitah wrote:
I'm going to trigger Maru fans: the 3 GSL wins of Maru are not that impressive since first, the top Zerg and world no 1 or 2 was not participating and second, Korean talent is on decline, so don't pretend that it means as much as like in 2014 or something. Yeah thankfully the guy who got 3-0ed by Classic and then Maru wasn't at GSL
it's okay that guy just won every other tournament that
a) Classic could not qualify for
or
b) Maru got knocked out early from
he also beat Classic 3-1 in WESG a week later
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On March 16 2019 18:49 Xitah wrote:
I'm going to trigger Maru fans: the 3 GSL wins of Maru are not that impressive since first, the top Zerg and world no 1 or 2 was not participating and second, Korean talent is on decline, so don't pretend that it means as much as like in 2014 or something.
During the first one or two seasons Dark and Rogue were the best zergs in the world and Maru beat both of them.
During season one he even 3-0'd Serral in weekend mode
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China6330 Posts
3rd place match: Sunday, Mar 17 6:15am GMT (GMT+00:00)
Grand final: Sunday, Mar 17 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
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EPT
