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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-16 09:44:03
March 16 2019 09:43 GMT
#341
From what I've seen, despite all of them having shown the ability to put on a TvT masterclass, the wins usually go like
Inno > Maru > TY > Inno
Denominator of the Universe
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 16 2019 09:44 GMT
#342
On March 16 2019 18:40 BerserkSword wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2019 18:37 sneakyfox wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:35 BerserkSword wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:30 Poopi wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:29 BerserkSword wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:26 StasisField wrote:
You know, if the Serral vs Maru final keeps getting ruined by Maru, maybe he's not the best player after all ;P


I dont know how anyone who actually watched starcraft last year thought Maru was better than peak Serral

Serral was just ridiculous

Yeah absolutely impressive to destroy MaNa Has and all these great players lol, I've never seen that happen before!




3-0 inno
3-1 dark
4-3 stats
2-0 zest
3-0 dark
3-1 rogue
4-2 stats

top koreans got destroyed by peak serral


"If we ignore the matches he lost, Serral has a perfect record against top Koreans, isn't it incredible?!"


Nobody in 2018 was better than the way Serral was playing when he went on to win the biggest and prestigious tournament in starcraft 2

Serral was the juggernaut, Maru was the dude who got swept trying to proxy over and over

It's funny how blizzcon was never the biggest of deals over GSL until a foreigner won it. PartinG, sOs (twice), Life, and Rogue all won it and none were considered the best player of that year.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
March 16 2019 09:45 GMT
#343
On March 16 2019 18:43 pvsnp wrote:
From what I've seen, despite all of them having shown the ability to put on a TvT masterclass, the wins usually go like
Inno > Maru > TY > Inno

btw Mvp > Polt > MMA > Mvp has indeed been a long time lol
Faker is the GOAT!
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
March 16 2019 09:46 GMT
#344
On March 16 2019 18:44 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2019 18:40 BerserkSword wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:37 sneakyfox wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:35 BerserkSword wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:30 Poopi wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:29 BerserkSword wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:26 StasisField wrote:
You know, if the Serral vs Maru final keeps getting ruined by Maru, maybe he's not the best player after all ;P


I dont know how anyone who actually watched starcraft last year thought Maru was better than peak Serral

Serral was just ridiculous

Yeah absolutely impressive to destroy MaNa Has and all these great players lol, I've never seen that happen before!




3-0 inno
3-1 dark
4-3 stats
2-0 zest
3-0 dark
3-1 rogue
4-2 stats

top koreans got destroyed by peak serral


"If we ignore the matches he lost, Serral has a perfect record against top Koreans, isn't it incredible?!"


Nobody in 2018 was better than the way Serral was playing when he went on to win the biggest and prestigious tournament in starcraft 2

Serral was the juggernaut, Maru was the dude who got swept trying to proxy over and over

It's funny how blizzcon was never the biggest of deals over GSL until a foreigner won it. PartinG, sOs (twice), Life, and Rogue all won it and none were considered the best player of that year.

Life was considered a god ffs, he even went on to win the next season of GSL, everyone saw him as the strongest player that year
Faker is the GOAT!
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
March 16 2019 09:46 GMT
#345
On March 16 2019 18:41 AzAlexZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2019 18:38 ThxSub~ wrote:
I like how Maru can get 2-0'd by a complete no name, just after losing to Bunny in GSL, just after losing to Neeb and a bunch of second tier koreans in IEM, just after getting 3-0'd in a silly way at the world finals, just after losing the korean tournament that serral won, just after losing the team match to Serral ...

and people still act like Maru is an absolute God and we JUST NEED that Maru-Serral final.

Neeb is one of the best foreigners though....
he is the only person in this tournament to beat Serral mind you

you know...may be we should stop judging one player's mistake for thier current forms
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13324 Posts
March 16 2019 09:47 GMT
#346
On March 16 2019 18:46 AzAlexZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2019 18:44 Fango wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:40 BerserkSword wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:37 sneakyfox wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:35 BerserkSword wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:30 Poopi wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:29 BerserkSword wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:26 StasisField wrote:
You know, if the Serral vs Maru final keeps getting ruined by Maru, maybe he's not the best player after all ;P


I dont know how anyone who actually watched starcraft last year thought Maru was better than peak Serral

Serral was just ridiculous

Yeah absolutely impressive to destroy MaNa Has and all these great players lol, I've never seen that happen before!




3-0 inno
3-1 dark
4-3 stats
2-0 zest
3-0 dark
3-1 rogue
4-2 stats

top koreans got destroyed by peak serral


"If we ignore the matches he lost, Serral has a perfect record against top Koreans, isn't it incredible?!"


Nobody in 2018 was better than the way Serral was playing when he went on to win the biggest and prestigious tournament in starcraft 2

Serral was the juggernaut, Maru was the dude who got swept trying to proxy over and over

It's funny how blizzcon was never the biggest of deals over GSL until a foreigner won it. PartinG, sOs (twice), Life, and Rogue all won it and none were considered the best player of that year.

Life was considered a god ffs, he even went on to win the next season of GSL, everyone saw him as the strongest player that year

If Life was considered the best player of 2014 then I'm the fucking queen of england
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
March 16 2019 09:47 GMT
#347
On March 16 2019 18:41 agsub wrote:
What happened to the Maru that beat TY in a GSL final...sigh....


A patch that changed everything about early game TvT. Maru's builds were really bad against inno's cyclone openings on top of a lot of mistakes in the very early stages of the game.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 16 2019 09:48 GMT
#348
On March 16 2019 18:46 AzAlexZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2019 18:44 Fango wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:40 BerserkSword wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:37 sneakyfox wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:35 BerserkSword wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:30 Poopi wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:29 BerserkSword wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:26 StasisField wrote:
You know, if the Serral vs Maru final keeps getting ruined by Maru, maybe he's not the best player after all ;P


I dont know how anyone who actually watched starcraft last year thought Maru was better than peak Serral

Serral was just ridiculous

Yeah absolutely impressive to destroy MaNa Has and all these great players lol, I've never seen that happen before!




3-0 inno
3-1 dark
4-3 stats
2-0 zest
3-0 dark
3-1 rogue
4-2 stats

top koreans got destroyed by peak serral


"If we ignore the matches he lost, Serral has a perfect record against top Koreans, isn't it incredible?!"


Nobody in 2018 was better than the way Serral was playing when he went on to win the biggest and prestigious tournament in starcraft 2

Serral was the juggernaut, Maru was the dude who got swept trying to proxy over and over

It's funny how blizzcon was never the biggest of deals over GSL until a foreigner won it. PartinG, sOs (twice), Life, and Rogue all won it and none were considered the best player of that year.

Life was considered a god ffs, he even went on to win the next season of GSL, everyone saw him as the strongest player that year

No they didn't. Zest and soO were the best players that year by a fucking mile.

Life was considered the best on 2015, which happened to be the year sos won blizzcon.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
March 16 2019 09:48 GMT
#349
On March 16 2019 18:47 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2019 18:46 AzAlexZ wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:44 Fango wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:40 BerserkSword wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:37 sneakyfox wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:35 BerserkSword wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:30 Poopi wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:29 BerserkSword wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:26 StasisField wrote:
You know, if the Serral vs Maru final keeps getting ruined by Maru, maybe he's not the best player after all ;P


I dont know how anyone who actually watched starcraft last year thought Maru was better than peak Serral

Serral was just ridiculous

Yeah absolutely impressive to destroy MaNa Has and all these great players lol, I've never seen that happen before!




3-0 inno
3-1 dark
4-3 stats
2-0 zest
3-0 dark
3-1 rogue
4-2 stats

top koreans got destroyed by peak serral


"If we ignore the matches he lost, Serral has a perfect record against top Koreans, isn't it incredible?!"


Nobody in 2018 was better than the way Serral was playing when he went on to win the biggest and prestigious tournament in starcraft 2

Serral was the juggernaut, Maru was the dude who got swept trying to proxy over and over

It's funny how blizzcon was never the biggest of deals over GSL until a foreigner won it. PartinG, sOs (twice), Life, and Rogue all won it and none were considered the best player of that year.

Life was considered a god ffs, he even went on to win the next season of GSL, everyone saw him as the strongest player that year

If Life was considered the best player of 2014 then I'm the fucking queen of england

Well it was either him or Zest.
Faker is the GOAT!
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-16 09:50:32
March 16 2019 09:49 GMT
#350
On March 16 2019 18:48 AzAlexZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2019 18:47 Durnuu wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:46 AzAlexZ wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:44 Fango wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:40 BerserkSword wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:37 sneakyfox wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:35 BerserkSword wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:30 Poopi wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:29 BerserkSword wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:26 StasisField wrote:
You know, if the Serral vs Maru final keeps getting ruined by Maru, maybe he's not the best player after all ;P


I dont know how anyone who actually watched starcraft last year thought Maru was better than peak Serral

Serral was just ridiculous

Yeah absolutely impressive to destroy MaNa Has and all these great players lol, I've never seen that happen before!




3-0 inno
3-1 dark
4-3 stats
2-0 zest
3-0 dark
3-1 rogue
4-2 stats

top koreans got destroyed by peak serral


"If we ignore the matches he lost, Serral has a perfect record against top Koreans, isn't it incredible?!"


Nobody in 2018 was better than the way Serral was playing when he went on to win the biggest and prestigious tournament in starcraft 2

Serral was the juggernaut, Maru was the dude who got swept trying to proxy over and over

It's funny how blizzcon was never the biggest of deals over GSL until a foreigner won it. PartinG, sOs (twice), Life, and Rogue all won it and none were considered the best player of that year.

Life was considered a god ffs, he even went on to win the next season of GSL, everyone saw him as the strongest player that year

If Life was considered the best player of 2014 then I'm the fucking queen of england

Well it was either him or Zest.


Yeah, they look so alike and play such similar styles too

You were probably thinking of Blizzcon, which he did win in 2014 but at the end of a rather unspectacular year for him.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Xitah
Profile Joined October 2018
49 Posts
March 16 2019 09:49 GMT
#351
I'm going to trigger Maru fans: the 3 GSL wins of Maru are not that impressive since first, the top Zerg and world no 1 or 2 was not participating and second, Korean talent is on decline, so don't pretend that it means as much as like in 2014 or something.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
March 16 2019 09:50 GMT
#352
On March 16 2019 18:43 pvsnp wrote:
From what I've seen, despite all of them having shown the ability to put on a TvT masterclass, the wins usually go like
Inno > Maru > TY > Inno

On this patch so far it's just TY > Inno > Maru
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ThxSub~
Profile Joined September 2018
17 Posts
March 16 2019 09:51 GMT
#353
On March 16 2019 18:49 Xitah wrote:
I'm going to trigger Maru fans: the 3 GSL wins of Maru are not that impressive since first, the top Zerg and world no 1 or 2 was not participating and second, Korean talent is on decline, so don't pretend that it means as much as like in 2014 or something.

Korean talent is definitely on decline, this is why returning players like MMA, Bomber, Taeja and MC completely crushed these wannabes when they returned.
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
March 16 2019 09:53 GMT
#354
On March 16 2019 18:44 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2019 18:40 BerserkSword wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:37 sneakyfox wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:35 BerserkSword wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:30 Poopi wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:29 BerserkSword wrote:
On March 16 2019 18:26 StasisField wrote:
You know, if the Serral vs Maru final keeps getting ruined by Maru, maybe he's not the best player after all ;P


I dont know how anyone who actually watched starcraft last year thought Maru was better than peak Serral

Serral was just ridiculous

Yeah absolutely impressive to destroy MaNa Has and all these great players lol, I've never seen that happen before!




3-0 inno
3-1 dark
4-3 stats
2-0 zest
3-0 dark
3-1 rogue
4-2 stats

top koreans got destroyed by peak serral


"If we ignore the matches he lost, Serral has a perfect record against top Koreans, isn't it incredible?!"


Nobody in 2018 was better than the way Serral was playing when he went on to win the biggest and prestigious tournament in starcraft 2

Serral was the juggernaut, Maru was the dude who got swept trying to proxy over and over

It's funny how blizzcon was never the biggest of deals over GSL until a foreigner won it. PartinG, sOs (twice), Life, and Rogue all won it and none were considered the best player of that year.


when they won it, blizzcon didnt have a prize pool head and shoulders above everything else. the lotv era blizzcon prize pools are mammoth
TL+ Member
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12980 Posts
March 16 2019 09:53 GMT
#355
On March 16 2019 18:49 Xitah wrote:
I'm going to trigger Maru fans: the 3 GSL wins of Maru are not that impressive since first, the top Zerg and world no 1 or 2 was not participating and second, Korean talent is on decline, so don't pretend that it means as much as like in 2014 or something.

Yeah thankfully the guy who got 3-0ed by Classic and then Maru wasn't at GSL
WriterMaru
pichoo
Profile Joined May 2014
Australia123 Posts
March 16 2019 09:54 GMT
#356
Maru so dissapointing, his performance looks shaky. I do believe peak Maru vs peak Inno TvT, Maru is better. Oh well at least we get a TvZ final.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8217 Posts
March 16 2019 09:55 GMT
#357
On March 16 2019 18:50 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2019 18:43 pvsnp wrote:
From what I've seen, despite all of them having shown the ability to put on a TvT masterclass, the wins usually go like
Inno > Maru > TY > Inno

On this patch so far it's just TY > Inno > Maru


In LotV in offline Bo3+, TY is 13–10 (56.52%) in games and 3–2 (60.00%) in matches against Maru.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-16 09:57:15
March 16 2019 09:55 GMT
#358
On March 16 2019 18:53 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2019 18:49 Xitah wrote:
I'm going to trigger Maru fans: the 3 GSL wins of Maru are not that impressive since first, the top Zerg and world no 1 or 2 was not participating and second, Korean talent is on decline, so don't pretend that it means as much as like in 2014 or something.

Yeah thankfully the guy who got 3-0ed by Classic and then Maru wasn't at GSL

it's okay that guy just won every other tournament that
a) Classic could not qualify for
or
b) Maru got knocked out early from

he also beat Classic 3-1 in WESG a week later
Faker is the GOAT!
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
March 16 2019 09:55 GMT
#359
On March 16 2019 18:49 Xitah wrote:
I'm going to trigger Maru fans: the 3 GSL wins of Maru are not that impressive since first, the top Zerg and world no 1 or 2 was not participating and second, Korean talent is on decline, so don't pretend that it means as much as like in 2014 or something.

During the first one or two seasons Dark and Rogue were the best zergs in the world and Maru beat both of them.

During season one he even 3-0'd Serral in weekend mode
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
March 16 2019 09:56 GMT
#360
3rd place match: Sunday, Mar 17 6:15am GMT (GMT+00:00)
Grand final: Sunday, Mar 17 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
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