[GSL 2018] Season 3 - Ro32 Group A

On July 04 2018 19:04 Fango wrote:
Classic has lost one pheonix while Reynor lost 4 queens, 12 roaches, and 20 drones

On July 04 2018 19:18 Fango wrote:
This seems like a weird build to do on a map with a backdoor. Usually the stalker/zealot get a quick cancel on a low ground CC but here Ryung just walled on the highground

On July 04 2018 19:32 phantomfive wrote:
Building two helions there was a mistake.
That first build, the proxy gateway, was the only one thay gave Maru trouble when Zest used it. I'll bet we'll be seeing a lot of that.

On July 04 2018 19:48 Fango wrote:

Well when the armies consist of only 4-5 units better micro will always make a huge difference

On July 04 2018 20:08 Heartland wrote:


What -does- Shellshock look like?

On July 04 2018 20:54 Durnuu wrote:
Guess who's gonna pay a visit to KeSPA jail

On July 04 2018 21:14 neutralrobot wrote:
Reynor filling the gap in my heart left by Life. This is great.

On July 04 2018 21:18 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
Reynor has now taken 3 consecutive maps in his GSL group. Kid hasn't played in WCS due to being too young.

On July 04 2018 21:18 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
Reynor has now taken 3 consecutive maps in his GSL group. Kid hasn't played in WCS due to being too young.

On July 04 2018 19:07 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
WELCOME TO KOREA

On July 04 2018 21:45 Fango wrote:
This translator looks like Wolf

On July 04 2018 21:47 D-light wrote:

No, just Reynor.

On July 04 2018 21:45 LongShot27 wrote:
USA! USA! USA!

On July 04 2018 21:48 yht9657 wrote:
RO16 at 16, unbelievable.

On July 04 2018 21:45 VHbb wrote:
we are not in the soccer world cup, but apparently pretty good at SC2

On July 04 2018 21:50 Fango wrote:
Reynor does the things zergs should do. The constant counterattacks made it so he couldn't lose the game. The mass amount of lurkers was disgusting. And remembering to use the corruptor anti-building bs won the game in the end

On July 04 2018 21:59 Fango wrote:

I'm more impressed by his tactics than speed/precision. He wasn't really controlling in multiple areas or outdoing Classic with great micro/macro. He won by attacking in the right places at the right times. I don't even think Classic considered he would get counterattacked by lings or corruptors like that.

He used everything zerg has in the bag and that's something you rarely see. If zergs start playing like him we'll see much more than one in the next ro8

On July 04 2018 21:59 Fango wrote:

I'm more impressed by his tactics than speed/precision. He wasn't really controlling in multiple areas or outdoing Classic with great micro/macro. He won by attacking in the right places at the right times. I don't even think Classic considered he would get counterattacked by lings or corruptors like that.

He used everything zerg has in the bag and that's something you rarely see. If zergs start playing like him we'll see much more than one in the next ro8

On July 04 2018 22:11 AaBbCc wrote:
That was legit. Super exciting series, this coming from someone who finds ZvP a snorefest at the moment. Classic was very shaky on game 1 but that second game was was lit.

Reynor showing some scary zerg play with the level of map awareness, positioning and multi-tasking he displayed. Reminds me of he-who-shall-not-be-named’s + Show Spoiler + counter-attack style. Constantly keeping his opponents busy and on their side of the map. A crazy hard brand of zerg to execute but so exciting to watch as a spectator, especially when pulled off like that!

Loving that happy go lucky grin as well, and the barely containable happiness during the interview. The passionate Italiano style is definitely a refreshing contrast to the archetypal Korean demeanour that we’re used to.

On July 04 2018 22:14 darklycid wrote:
So vs this can protoss ever move Out?

On July 04 2018 22:14 darklycid wrote:
So vs this can protoss ever move Out?

On July 04 2018 21:50 Fango wrote:
Reynor does the things zergs should do. The constant counterattacks made it so he couldn't lose the game. The mass amount of lurkers was disgusting. And remembering to use the corruptor anti-building bs won the game in the end

On July 04 2018 22:14 darklycid wrote:
So vs this can protoss ever move Out?

On July 04 2018 22:34 AaBbCc wrote:


'Course they can - IMO it requires a different approach than what classic showed.

1) More map awareness from P. For example - more observers watching the various attack paths, squads of units on roving patrols to keep checking for groups of zerg set up to counter. You only move out to posture once you've checked then you assume that Zerg is sending units around yours while you move towards their side of the map.

2) More harassment - a warp prison + proxy pylons to send in units every time he sends an attack towards a protoss base. These attacks don't require much attention or micro from P, with the result being zerg's precision takes a hit as they divert some attention away from to coordinating such incisive strikes.

Yes, yes, I know. much easier said than done - especially for Protoss players like classic and herO who generally like to gain early advantages using sharp early or mid-game timing attacks.

On July 04 2018 22:14 darklycid wrote:
So vs this can protoss ever move Out?

On July 04 2018 22:42 darklycid wrote:

To 1) observers Just get killed and you need your robos for other things. Unit squads are also too fragile and you dont want to lose immortals or hts so thats not rly an Option i think especially when zergs Just kill those Units for free and move Back

To 2) harrassment ist pretty hard vs this as Pylons get easily killed by lings and If the prism dies once its difficult to replace it because you need robos for immos :D also vs these pushes you often need all Warp ins at Home

On July 04 2018 22:49 leublix wrote:

It's not really necessary if the harass is good enough. If you have enough cannons, batteries and are maxed out it's certainly possible.

Classic's moveout was just a bad time imo. Getting more air units out would have been better.

On July 04 2018 22:34 AaBbCc wrote:


'Course they can - IMO it requires a different approach than what classic showed.

1) More map awareness from P. For example - more observers watching the various attack paths, squads of units on roving patrols to keep checking for groups of zerg set up to counter. You only move out to posture once you've checked then you assume that Zerg is sending units around yours while you move towards their side of the map.

2) More harassment - a warp prison + proxy pylons to send in units every time he sends an attack towards a protoss base. These attacks don't require much attention or micro from P, with the result being zerg's precision takes a hit as they divert some attention away from to coordinating such incisive strikes.

Yes, yes, I know. much easier said than done - especially for Protoss players like classic and herO who generally like to gain early advantages using sharp early or mid-game timing attacks.

On July 04 2018 22:32 brickrd wrote:

Just Play Like Maru

On July 05 2018 00:18 Heartland wrote:
Wow. This rekindled my passion. And for a Zerg at that? I'm blown away

On July 04 2018 23:50 KingofdaHipHop wrote:


Swag

On July 04 2018 22:53 darklycid wrote:

I mean thats how i play pvz on ladder (defend defend defend until Air) but thats pretty stupid gameplay imho

On July 04 2018 22:57 phantomfive wrote:



If Zergs start playing like Reynor and Protosses start playing like you describe, the games are going to be so amazing. I remember liquid hero did this kind of thing a lot. Toward the end of his career he crushed Life in proleague doing this kind of harass with dts. You'd think a few spores or overseers would shut that kind of thing down, but it didn't.

Worth mentioning that in game 1 of the first series, he basically died to counter harass.

On July 04 2018 21:52 LongShot27 wrote:


"Every country in the world belongs to America."

On July 05 2018 04:51 Rob-Zero wrote:



That´s what i really really hate about the States. So arrogant.

On July 05 2018 05:43 SpikeStarcraft wrote:


That's what i really really hate about Germany. No humor.

On July 04 2018 23:50 KingofdaHipHop wrote:


Swag

On July 05 2018 11:44 jjmmtt wrote:
Wow Reynor is incredibly fast... he was actually crushing Classic with it, hard to believe. And he has excellent micro and group control. Classic is no joke when it comes to speed and control either but he fell behind and had to stabilise, he probably wasn't even ready for it. This kid is gonna go far if he can keep up that level of play. Awesome series.

Stats you traitor

On July 06 2018 01:42 Fran_ wrote:


Some interesting data points:
- Riccardo (Reynor) goes to high school in Italy, which goes from 8am to 1pm every day excluding weekends
- Homeworks are mandatory and take few hours every day
- According to a recent interview, he could play only 2/3 games a day in the evening before sleep for about 9 months every year
- He started training seriously only since end of May when school closed
- When he had to choose between attending the BTSL finals in Vancouver and going to school, he chose school because he had to miss too many days to attend WESG.

And he's that good.

On July 06 2018 01:42 Fran_ wrote:


Some interesting data points:
- Riccardo (Reynor) goes to high school in Italy, which goes from 8am to 1pm every day excluding weekends
- Homeworks are mandatory and take few hours every day
- According to a recent interview, he could play only 2/3 games a day in the evening before sleep for about 9 months every year
- He started training seriously only since end of May when school closed
- When he had to choose between attending the BTSL finals in Vancouver and going to school, he chose school because he had to miss too many days to attend WESG.

And he's that good.