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On June 16 2018 14:25 yangluphil wrote:
This is extremely predictable. With the current PvT status, I don't know how anyone could predict Classic is favored. If you can't get in an unlosable early game position, entering mid game means gg for protoss. Zest approached the ro4 the right way.
What did I just read..
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Going to be 4-0 finals... zzz... at least it's not PvP though. Dunno how Zest beat TY honestly.
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 16 2018 14:32 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2018 14:25 yangluphil wrote:
This is extremely predictable. With the current PvT status, I don't know how anyone could predict Classic is favored. If you can't get in an unlosable early game position, entering mid game means gg for protoss. Zest approached the ro4 the right way. What did I just read..
Sounds like a race-swapped comment from last season tbh.
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On June 16 2018 14:27 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2018 14:25 yangluphil wrote:
This is extremely predictable. With the current PvT status, I don't know how anyone could predict Classic is favored. If you can't get in an unlosable early game position, entering mid game means gg for protoss. Zest approached the ro4 the right way. Classic was borderline 100% in PvT before today....
How many series of PvT vs top terran was played in this patch? He looked very shaky vs TY in the group already. And he came back with super early aggression, the only way you win in this MU right now. Same in series vs Byun. Classic likes stalker heavy comp in PvT. That could carry over reasonablly well to mid game pre-patch, but it's a joke now if you don't win right there.
PvT was ~44% after the patch.
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On June 16 2018 08:32 SHODAN wrote:
if Maru somehow wins, I will personally suck the dick of every marine and marauder used in tonight's series
My hope is that this was secretly what you wanted to do all along, because otherwise, this could get awkward...
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 16 2018 14:38 neutralrobot wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2018 08:32 SHODAN wrote:
if Maru somehow wins, I will personally suck the dick of every marine and marauder used in tonight's series My hope is that this was secretly what you wanted to do all along, because otherwise, this could get awkward...
If Maru's victories hadn't been as swiftly crushing, he'd have even more 'work' to do.
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Hey guys, are Vods up yet and if not, do you know when?
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On June 16 2018 14:34 yangluphil wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2018 14:27 Fango wrote:On June 16 2018 14:25 yangluphil wrote:
This is extremely predictable. With the current PvT status, I don't know how anyone could predict Classic is favored. If you can't get in an unlosable early game position, entering mid game means gg for protoss. Zest approached the ro4 the right way. Classic was borderline 100% in PvT before today.... How many series of PvT vs top terran was played in this patch? He looked very shaky vs TY in the group already. And he came back with super early aggression, the only way you win in this MU right now. Same in series vs Byun. Classic likes stalker heavy comp in PvT. That could carry over reasonablly well to mid game pre-patch, but it's a joke now if you don't win right there. PvT was ~44% after the patch.
What do you mean with "Zest approached his games the right way" though? He won the long games on Acid Plant and Darkness Sanctuary. The only long game he lost was the one on Catalyst.
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It seems factory units are the key to not letting Protoss do whatever they want while going into the mid-game with an econ lead.
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 16 2018 14:41 TerranYourAss wrote:
Hey guys, are Vods up yet and if not, do you know when?
They're on Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/273800422). They should also be on Youtube within a few hours most likely.
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Maru outmicroed Classic way too hard, he was just on a completely different level, god bless his wrists.
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Classic underperforming and rekted, then PvP finals avoided. Perfect start to the day.
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The only game that made it look broken was the third game, where Claassic was clearly ahead after killing so many scvs, and yet Maru's army setup looked impossibly broken, zoning with the liberators and killing with the marauders. Artosis said he needs to go collosus, but Maru will win against collosus, his micro is too good.
It will be interesting to see what Zest comes up with, because he is practicing hard and will find something he will think is effective.
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Everyone should watch just that last fight in game 3 and marvel at the beauty.
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juicyjames
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On June 16 2018 15:17 juicyjames wrote:
Was this recommended?
Nah, dude. Just a routinecraft2 and Maru opened his third eye and just became the god, that's all, no whine.
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It is pretty amazing if you are not a Protoss player =P
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On June 16 2018 15:17 juicyjames wrote:
Was this recommended?
Even if you're not a huge long-time Maru fan like me, I think you still have to marvel at game 3.
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 16 2018 15:54 neutralrobot wrote:Even if you're not a huge long-time Maru fan like me, I think you still have to marvel at game 3.
I thought Maru played much more impressively game 4 personally.
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Elentos
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On June 16 2018 14:41 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2018 14:34 yangluphil wrote:On June 16 2018 14:27 Fango wrote:On June 16 2018 14:25 yangluphil wrote:
This is extremely predictable. With the current PvT status, I don't know how anyone could predict Classic is favored. If you can't get in an unlosable early game position, entering mid game means gg for protoss. Zest approached the ro4 the right way. Classic was borderline 100% in PvT before today.... How many series of PvT vs top terran was played in this patch? He looked very shaky vs TY in the group already. And he came back with super early aggression, the only way you win in this MU right now. Same in series vs Byun. Classic likes stalker heavy comp in PvT. That could carry over reasonablly well to mid game pre-patch, but it's a joke now if you don't win right there. PvT was ~44% after the patch. What do you mean with "Zest approached his games the right way" though? He won the long games on Acid Plant and Darkness Sanctuary. The only long game he lost was the one on Catalyst.
Just because they went a bit longer doesn't mean they weren't decided early though. On Acid Plant, TY's build failed so horribly he was just super far behind the entire time. On Darkness Sanctuary, TY's 3rd orbital dies before it's fully saturated.
Still, this whole midgame is a free win for Terran story is bogus. Almost all the Terran wins this GSL after the patch come off the back of Terrans getting early leads with their builds.
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