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Format & Map Pool
- Playoffs
- 16 players in a single-elimination bracket
- Round of 16 to Semifinals are played in Bo5
- Finals are played in Bo7
Map Pool
[WCS 2018] DreamHack Austin - Championship Sunday
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Poll: WCS Austin 2018 Champion Serral (40) SpeCial (13) MaNa (12) Elazer (5) HeRoMaRinE (3) Nerchio (3) Lambo (2) Snute (1) 79 total votes Your vote: WCS Austin 2018 Champion (Vote): Serral | ||
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On June 03 2018 21:10 Clazziquai10 wrote: Special = last NA hope standing but for blizz mexico isnt na, its latin america (they have their own qualifier, ...) | ||
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mierin
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On June 03 2018 21:10 Clazziquai10 wrote: Special = last NA hope standing At this rate we're going to have to start calling non-Europeans foreigners  | ||
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Die4Ever
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On June 03 2018 21:20 hjpalpha wrote: but for blizz mexico isnt na, its latin america (they have their own qualifier, ...) Latin America still America, go Special! | ||
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VengefulTree
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On June 03 2018 19:11 showstealer1829 wrote: There must be something wrong with me, I look at those quarters and my passion is lower than my ladder rank. Me too, feels like this tournament is very dull for now. Some games were cool, Mana vs Neeb was a surprise, but apart from that, all my favorites were slain and most series are stomps sooo, yeah | ||
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Charoisaur
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On June 03 2018 22:41 mierin wrote: At this rate we're going to have to start calling non-Europeans foreigners region-lock when? | ||
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Elentos
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On June 03 2018 19:11 showstealer1829 wrote: There must be something wrong with me, I look at those quarters and my passion is lower than my ladder rank. You play ladder?  | ||
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Zaros
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On June 04 2018 00:15 Fanatic-Templar wrote: Is it even worth sieging the tanks when they get caught out like that? doesnt really matter either way your fucked | ||
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OsaX Nymloth
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Just random thought. Serral is of course on whole another level. | ||
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ShAd_1337
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On June 03 2018 23:56 jarodtou wrote: actually, I don`t think serral will win, it will either be special/elazer or heromarine. the other I don`t see wining laughable | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 04 2018 00:17 OsaX Nymloth wrote: I wonder about creep spread - would it be a super bad idea to "limit" how close each active creep tumor can be to other creep tumor? Having some proximity limit could maybe help vs zergs who are having creep covering half of the map by 8 minute mark. And if terran tries fighting the creep, 2-3 queens just shows up and replant the tumors close to the edge so creep isn't really fought back. Just random thought. Serral is of course on whole another level. That sounds like the least elegant possible way to nerf creep spread. If it really is a problem (which I don't think it is), just make it spread slower and/or recede faster. | ||
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DBooN
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mierin
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On June 04 2018 00:26 Soularion wrote: Serral is unreal. I don't know if a foreigner has been good like this before. I'm definitely in the "Serral needs to get his butt over to Korea" crowd! | ||
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Penev
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+ Show Spoiler + it is | ||
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Fango
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On June 04 2018 00:26 Soularion wrote: Serral is unreal. I don't know if a foreigner has been good like this before. Didn't Neeb win WCS events last year dropping like one map as well? | ||
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On June 04 2018 00:28 mierin wrote: I'm definitely in the "Serral needs to get his butt over to Korea" crowd! Nah, it's not worth it. Balancing WCS and GSL has never been done successfully, not by TRUE, not by Neeb, not by Scarlett. | ||
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Elentos
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On June 04 2018 00:29 Soularion wrote: Nah, it's not worth it. Balancing WCS and GSL has never been done successfully, not by TRUE, not by Neeb, not by Scarlett. Serral playing against Koreans more would tell us if a foreigner has been "good like this before" though. | ||
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Soularion
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On June 04 2018 00:30 Elentos wrote: Serral playing against Koreans more would tell us if a foreigner has been "good like this before" though. He's played against Koreans a fair amount though. He's played 10 offline sets (counting both Bo1s vs soO as one combined set) so far this year, and will most likely finish somewhere in the high teens, including sets against both Classic and Maru when they were pretty much undisputed best in the world. Stephano in 2011 played 15 sets, 4 of those being Bo1, and only played 'good' koreans in Bo3/Bo5. He played a ton more in 2012 but if you trim the weaker Koreans from that pool it looks pretty slim too. | ||
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Fango
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 04 2018 00:34 Fango wrote: 3 CC should mean Heromarine wins this right? He's certainly ahead, but his position isn't trivially winning either. | ||
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Elentos
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On June 04 2018 00:34 Soularion wrote: He's played against Koreans a fair amount though. He's played 10 offline sets (counting both Bo1s vs soO as one combined set) so far this year, and will most likely finish somewhere in the high teens, including sets against both Classic and Maru when they were pretty much undisputed best in the world. Stephano in 2011 played 15 sets, 4 of those being Bo1, and only played 'good' koreans in Bo3/Bo5. He played a ton more in 2012 but if you trim the weaker Koreans from that pool it looks pretty slim too. If you trim the weaker Koreans Serral played like 5 matches. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
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On June 04 2018 00:40 Fango wrote: How did Heromarine lose a fight while being ahead 20 army supply ahead and a set up of upgrades? The baneling hits weren't even that big until the end too... HeroMarine's tank focus firing was a bit lacking, but there had to be some Serral magic going on in that defense. | ||
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Charoisaur
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On June 04 2018 00:26 Soularion wrote: Serral is unreal. I don't know if a foreigner has been good like this before. Neeb last year? | ||
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Clazziquai10
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On June 04 2018 00:41 Zaros wrote: Marine Lord can't seem to split vs banelings Marinelord? | ||
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On June 04 2018 00:43 ZigguratOfUr wrote: The baneling hits weren't even that big until the end too... HeroMarine's tank focus firing was a bit lacking, but there had to be some Serral magic going on in that defense. He burrowed/unburrowed queens to tank a siege tank salve | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On June 04 2018 00:43 ZigguratOfUr wrote: The baneling hits weren't even that big until the end too... HeroMarine's tank focus firing was a bit lacking, but there had to be some Serral magic going on in that defense. I think in the start he had too many units still at the back, and towards the end he lost too many to banelings. If he was more aggressive and had good splits + tank targeting he wins that. | ||
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Lexender
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On June 04 2018 00:43 ZigguratOfUr wrote: The baneling hits weren't even that big until the end too... HeroMarine's tank focus firing was a bit lacking, but there had to be some Serral magic going on in that defense. Nah he didn't do anything special, Heromarine just had awful splitting. | ||
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Fango
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On June 04 2018 00:42 Elentos wrote: If you trim the weaker Koreans Serral played like 5 matches. He beat Rogue 2-1, Trap 3-2, and Classic 3-1. That's about it in terms of beating top koreans | ||
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On June 04 2018 00:44 Lexender wrote: Seeing Serral play would be actually fun and exiting if it didn't meant that the tournament becomes a ZvZ fest, saddly this is the foreign scene. Seeing Serral play would be fun and exciting if he actually had any competition. Sadly the players that could challenge him aren't allowed to play in this tournament. | ||
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On June 04 2018 00:45 Lexender wrote: Nah he didn't do anything special, Heromarine just had awful splitting. On June 04 2018 00:44 Ej_ wrote: He burrowed/unburrowed queens to tank a siege tank salve | ||
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On June 04 2018 00:44 Ej_ wrote: He burrowed/unburrowed queens to tank a siege tank salve That was cute, but I think at that point he was already fine after somehow having held the previous engagements. | ||
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Elentos
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On June 04 2018 00:45 Fango wrote: He beat Rogue 2-1, Trap 3-2, and Classic 3-1. That's about it in terms of beating top koreans It was about playing not beating. And he played Maru & Classic again. | ||
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in terms of choosing the correct unit composition, placement, general strategy and decisionmaking - neeb when he plays at his prime looks to me the best I have seen from a foreigner. in terms of overall play - as in mechanics, consistency, not making mistakes, large scale control, etc - serral is undoubtedly the best foreigner I have seen and looks better than any korean I watch right now. and it's not just because we are seeing him against other foreigners. I am not saying he *is* better than dark or rogue, but his macro, movement, reactions.. it's typically hard to find any mistake. he's basically like stephano in his prime, which is already an amazing feat, but he's much crisper than that. stephano had a little sloppiness, serral almost never does. | ||
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On June 04 2018 00:44 Lexender wrote: Seeing Serral play would be actually fun and exiting if it didn't meant that the tournament becomes a ZvZ fest, saddly this is the foreign scene. don't worry, Princess will save us from the horrors of zvz semis and final | ||
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On June 04 2018 00:45 Noonius wrote: Serral has not lost a single map yet. Am I seeing this right? not surprising, foreign scene is pretty much a joke. Last year Neeb, this year Serral - the skill level is so low that the few good players just dominate everything. | ||
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Fango
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On June 04 2018 00:46 Elentos wrote: It was about playing not beating. And he played Maru & Classic again. Getting ruined 0-3 doesn't help his status in comparison to koreans though. | ||
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On June 04 2018 00:42 Elentos wrote: If you trim the weaker Koreans Serral played like 5 matches. If you trim the weaker Koreans, Serral played Rogue, Impact, Zest, Trap, Classic twice and Maru (and soO). You can try to argue against Zest/Impact but they're still Code S tier. When I say trimming weaker Koreans from Stephano's results I mean guys like ReaL, JYP, Heart, GanZi, Rain, Daisy, KeeN, Revival, TheStC, CranK. These guys were fringe Code S at best in 2012, and Stephano played 18 sets vs them that year. That's a third of his sets vs Koreans. | ||
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Zaros
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On June 04 2018 00:47 Charoisaur wrote: not surprising, foreign scene is pretty much a joke. Last year Neeb, this year Serral - the skill level is so low that the few good players just dominate everything. Oh be quiet | ||
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On June 04 2018 00:49 Soularion wrote: they're still Code S tier. In 2018 this is probably the most backhanded compliment you can give a Korean. | ||
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Fango
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On June 04 2018 00:47 mierin wrote: Honestly I think Serral's ZvT has improved quite a bit...I really wouldn't mind seeing him vs. TY, Maru or Inno. He's always been able to dominate the EU terrans. I like Heromarine but he isn't even on the same level as a Keen or aLive or Bunny. The best korean zergs (soO, dark, solar) struggle to beat TY/Maru/Inno a lot of the time, and they get constant practice against them. I wouldn't have much confidence in Serral | ||
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Charoisaur
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? You disagree that Serral is far better than the other players? Not dropping a map thus far seems to indicate that pretty clearly. | ||
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On June 04 2018 00:50 Elentos wrote: In 2018 this is probably the most backhanded compliment you can give a Korean. How do you rate Serral's chances vs Zanster and NoRegret? | ||
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On June 04 2018 00:47 Charoisaur wrote: not surprising, foreign scene is pretty much a joke. Last year Neeb, this year Serral - the skill level is so low that the few good players just dominate everything. What other good foreigners even existed in 2012 when Stephano put up his GOAT case? LucifroN? VortiX? BabyKnight? You can't act as those guys are on another level compared to the likes of uThermal, Elazer, SpeCial, Snute, TRUE, Scarlett. | ||
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On June 04 2018 00:51 Charoisaur wrote: ? You disagree that Serral is far better than the other players? Not dropping a map thus far seems to indicate that pretty clearly. No, but the entire post reeks of your annoying, abrasive "fuck wcs" attitude like you had nothing better to do in your spare time than ragging on something nobody who reads your posts can change as if the god almighty was going to smite Blizzard down and paint words "CHAROSAIR WAS RIGHT, REGION LOCK KILLED SC2" on the sky | ||
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Die4Ever
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On June 04 2018 00:51 Soularion wrote: What other good foreigners even existed in 2012 when Stephano put up his GOAT case? LucifroN? VortiX? BabyKnight? You can't act as those guys are on another level compared to the likes of uThermal, Elazer, SpeCial, Snute, TRUE, Scarlett. Yea but at least there were some Koreans in the foreign scene tournaments back then to show some competitive matches | ||
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On June 04 2018 00:50 Elentos wrote: In 2018 this is probably the most backhanded compliment you can give a Korean. I mean like, solidly Code S tier. Zest made more Ro8s than every korean I listed for Stephano combined, and Impact is still a pretty solid player. Just gotten some unfortunate luck having to face against Classic/Stats/soO/TY in Code S Ro32. | ||
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On June 04 2018 00:53 Die4Ever wrote: Yea but at least there were some Koreans in the tournaments back then to show some competitive matches Yeah and the Koreans were asscheeks. Put Serral up against Leenock, LosirA, KeeN, aLive, DoKyung, Cure and ByuL and he'd still look damn good. | ||
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Zaros
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On June 04 2018 00:51 Charoisaur wrote: ? You disagree that Serral is far better than the other players? Not dropping a map thus far seems to indicate that pretty clearly. I disagree with you calling the foreign scene a joke, yes Serral is dominant so far and is favourite to win but the skill level in the foreign scene is closer to Korea than it has ever been and the overall skill level is higher than its ever been. Foreigners can't take a map off Serral because he is as good as top Korean zergs. | ||
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Die4Ever
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On June 04 2018 00:55 Soularion wrote: Yeah and the Koreans were asscheeks. Put Serral up against Leenock, LosirA, KeeN, aLive, DoKyung, Cure and ByuL and he'd still look damn good. That's fine, would've at least been a better or more interesting match than we've gotten so far | ||
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Durnuu
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On June 04 2018 00:55 Zaros wrote: the overall skill level is higher than its ever been. according to what? | ||
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Charoisaur
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On June 04 2018 00:53 Ej_ wrote: No, but the entire post reeks of your annoying, abrasive "fuck wcs" attitude like you had nothing better to do in your spare time than ragging on something nobody who reads your posts can change as if the god almighty was going to smite Blizzard down and paint words "CHAROSAIR WAS RIGHT, REGION LOCK KILLED SC2" on the sky no idea what this wall of text is supposed to mean. Region-lock obv didn't kill sc2 but I don't think the WCS events with Serral (and Neeb last year) just winning everything are turning out as Blizzard expected. It just bores me that nobody can challenge the good players. | ||
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Soularion
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On June 04 2018 00:58 Fango wrote: I honestly think Snute is the most underrated foreigner in terms of the GOAT discussion. He actually competed with them in HotS and did decent, especially against korean protoss. Other foreigners weren't really noteworthy during that time. Stuchiu had Snute at #3 which I think is pretty much agreeable. It's unfortunate that he played during the hardest era of competition because it makes him have very few notable runs, and Snute hasn't been good enough in LotV to justify putting him over NaNiwa. | ||
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On June 04 2018 00:55 Zaros wrote: I disagree with you calling the foreign scene a joke, yes Serral is dominant so far and is favourite to win but the skill level in the foreign scene is closer to Korea than it has ever been and the overall skill level is higher than its ever been. Foreigners can't take a map off Serral because he is as good as top Korean zergs. Okay, maybe "joke" was a bit harsh but compared to Serral they are just not on the same level. | ||
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Penev
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On June 04 2018 00:59 Soularion wrote: Stuchiu had Snute at #3 which I think is pretty much agreeable. It's unfortunate that he played during the hardest era of competition because it makes him have very few notable runs, and Snute hasn't been good enough in LotV to justify putting him over NaNiwa. I've always valued decent runs in harsh times to be equal or better to great runs in good times. Beating the current GSL and SSL champions back to back in 2015 is damn impressive. Probably more so than winning a tournament against obviously inferior opponents. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On June 04 2018 01:01 Soularion wrote: Nerchio/Serral would be an insightful series. I really think Serral's ZvZ is his one weak spot domestically. http://aligulac.com/players/485/results/?after=2018-03-01&before=&event=&race=z&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op= Yeah looks really weak | ||
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Zaros
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On June 04 2018 01:00 Charoisaur wrote: Okay, maybe "joke" was a bit harsh but compared to Serral they are just not on the same level. There are players who are close like Elazer and Neeb/Special/Scarlett/Uthermal when they peak. Korean Protoss are praising Elazer as their main Zerg practice partner to help them take out rogue, soO and dark. I think if we look objectively who Serral has played against so far it's not the tip top players; clem, tlo aren't even top 20 foreigners imo. I wouldn't even put kelazhur or Heromarine in my top 10 maybe others disagree | ||
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On June 04 2018 01:09 Zaros wrote: There are players who are close like Elazer and Neeb/Special/Scarlett/Uthermal when they peak. Korean Protoss are praising Elazer as their main Zerg practice partner to help them take out rogue, soO and dark. I think if we look objectively who Serral has played against so far it's not the tip top players; clem, tlo aren't even top 20 foreigners imo. I wouldn't even put kelazhur or Heromarine in my top 10 maybe others disagree Uthermal and Special lost to Serral one-sidedly in WCS Challenger/WCS Leipzig. Neeb and Scarlett are out of form currently. The only one I can see beating Serral is Elazer in ZvZ. | ||
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On June 04 2018 01:05 The_Red_Viper wrote: http://aligulac.com/players/485/results/?after=2018-03-01&before=&event=&race=z&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op= Yeah looks really weak Conveniently cropping out his loss to Scarlett, which stands as his only Bo3+ loss in any matchup to a foreigner over the time frame. | ||
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Zaros
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On June 04 2018 01:12 Charoisaur wrote: Uthermal and Special lost to Serral one-sidedly in WCS Challenger/WCS Leipzig. Neeb and Scarlett are out of form currently. The only one I can see beating Serral is Elazer in ZvZ. Leipzig was ages ago so I wouldn't count special out yet but yes I would say Elazer is the most likely to beat Serral if anyone | ||
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On June 04 2018 01:13 Soularion wrote: Conveniently cropping out his loss to Scarlett, which stands as his only Bo3+ loss in any matchup to a foreigner over the time frame. Results that are from more than 3 months ago don't even give any indication to current form (even less sometimes doesn't) so it's more than fine to cut that. | ||
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On June 04 2018 01:13 Soularion wrote: Conveniently cropping out his loss to Scarlett, which stands as his only Bo3+ loss in any matchup to a foreigner over the time frame. I simply took the last three months, but sure if we wanna go for the full year here you go: http://aligulac.com/players/485/results/?after=2018-01-01&before=&event=&race=z&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op= | ||
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On June 04 2018 01:20 The_Red_Viper wrote: I simply took the last three months, but sure if we wanna go for the full year here you go: http://aligulac.com/players/485/results/?after=2018-01-01&before=&event=&race=z&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op= conveniently only showing 2018 results I see | ||
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On June 04 2018 01:20 The_Red_Viper wrote: I simply took the last three months, but sure if we wanna go for the full year here you go: http://aligulac.com/players/485/results/?after=2018-01-01&before=&event=&race=z&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op= So, three Bo3+ losses, compared to one in ZvT and zero in ZvP. I'm not saying it's bad, I'm just saying he's most likely to lose in ZvZ. | ||
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According to his criteria. | ||
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On June 04 2018 01:23 Soularion wrote: So, three Bo3+ losses, compared to one in ZvT and zero in ZvP. I'm not saying it's bad, I'm just saying he's most likely to lose in ZvZ. I just have a hard time calling his zvz his weak spot when it isn't weak by any means (especially recently). But sure considering that most top players are zerg in foreignerland it might be the matchup he could lose a map today | ||
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On June 04 2018 01:26 Soularion wrote: Nerchio and losing ZvZ sets he should win Name a more iconic duo Foreigner and full. | ||
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On June 04 2018 01:26 Soularion wrote: Nerchio and losing ZvZ sets he should win Name a more iconic duo Starcraft fans and extrapolating off an extremely small sample. | ||
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soO and 2nd | ||
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Rogue and patches | ||
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Obamarauder
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On June 04 2018 01:28 Aegwynn wrote: Why lotv tournaments are full of 3-0s ? its more of a foreigner thing | ||
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Geoff arguing with shitheads | ||
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yht9657
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Do casters these days watch no games or what? | ||
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Boggyb
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On June 04 2018 01:32 yht9657 wrote: "too many zergs is weird for an WCS event" Do casters these days watch no games or what? They are being sarcastic. | ||
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Soularion
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Leipzig had 3 3-0s. Montreal had 6. Valencia had 4. Austin already has 8 lmfao. | ||
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DBooN
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Group Stage 3 10 11 11 Playoffs 3 3 10 | ||
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Lexender
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On June 04 2018 01:33 DBooN wrote: It's actually pretty funny to look at the change in demographics between group stage 3 and ro16: Group Stage 3 10 11 11 Playoffs 3 3 10 Quarter 1 2 5 | ||
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Elazer vs SpeCial gonna be 3-1. StarCraft will be saved. The game SpeCial wins will be so great uThermal recovers from his pneumonia instantly. | ||
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Gogo Snute! | ||
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On June 04 2018 01:47 GumBa wrote: Cannon rush lol better, its cannon contain into proxy immortal allin | ||
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On June 04 2018 00:46 travis wrote: judging from play, I would put it like this: in terms of choosing the correct unit composition, placement, general strategy and decisionmaking - neeb when he plays at his prime looks to me the best I have seen from a foreigner. in terms of overall play - as in mechanics, consistency, not making mistakes, large scale control, etc - serral is undoubtedly the best foreigner I have seen and looks better than any korean I watch right now. and it's not just because we are seeing him against other foreigners. I am not saying he *is* better than dark or rogue, but his macro, movement, reactions.. it's typically hard to find any mistake. he's basically like stephano in his prime, which is already an amazing feat, but he's much crisper than that. stephano had a little sloppiness, serral almost never does. Yep, Stephano game sense and overall intelligence in his play was really his strenght and the reason why he was so dominant but Serral emulates this with an almost perfect macro + he is more versatile in term of strat with very ahressive timing and push. However, I would argue that steph was a little bit more creative meta wise. | ||
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On June 04 2018 00:46 travis wrote: in terms of overall play - as in mechanics, consistency, not making mistakes, large scale control, etc - serral is undoubtedly the best foreigner I have seen and looks better than any korean I watch right now. and it's not just because we are seeing him against other foreigners. I am not saying he *is* better than dark or rogue, but his macro, movement, reactions.. it's typically hard to find any mistake. he's basically like stephano in his prime, which is already an amazing feat, but he's much crisper than that. stephano had a little sloppiness, serral almost never does. That's because when you're playing people substantially worse than you, anything you do will look perfect. If you watch TY/Maru/Dark stomp through foreigners at WeSG, they're probably playing worse mechanically than when they face eachother in the finals, but their play looked perfect because they were outdoing their opponents in every aspect. Even Serral's WeSG run was the same, he looked just as sharp as he does now, but once he faced real opponents his skill was tested and he looked sloppier. Even though in reality I'd bet he was trying much harder when facing Maru/Classic than any of the foreigners. | ||
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On June 04 2018 02:06 Poopfeast 024 wrote: Mana has no antiair at all, he's gonna lose to broodlords Storm in AA enough | ||
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mana playing very impressively as well, awesome use of the map to help get the fourth high level game enjoyable ! | ||
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On June 04 2018 02:26 chipmonklord17 wrote: woah woah woah "most successful non Korean of all time" and Snute are not equivalent Success = winning money Snute = #1 in earnings for non-Koreans Therefore, Snute = Most Successful non-Korean | ||
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On June 04 2018 02:26 chipmonklord17 wrote: woah woah woah "most successful non Korean of all time" and Snute are not equivalent https://www.esportsearnings.com/games/151-starcraft-ii | ||
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On June 04 2018 02:26 chipmonklord17 wrote: woah woah woah "most successful non Korean of all time" and Snute are not equivalent yes it is? www.esportsearnings.com | ||
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On June 04 2018 02:28 Boggyb wrote: Success = winning money Snute = #1 in earnings for non-Koreans Therefore, Snute = Most Successful non-Korean I wouldn't equate money with success. | ||
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On June 04 2018 02:30 Latr02 wrote: If Mana makes it to the finals it might be the most surprising result I've ever seen Pigbaby won WCS. | ||
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On June 04 2018 02:32 Zaros wrote: What if mana just wins the whole thing out of nowhere MaNa fans: WHAT IF Serral: *exists* | ||
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On June 04 2018 02:32 Zaros wrote: What if mana just wins the whole thing out of nowhere I hope he does | ||
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Just quickly revisited that finals vs Bomber vod and Pigbaby is going 2 base Carrier in game one. While wearing a jumper with "Kappa" over the heart. Touche. | ||
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The definition likely varies person to person. Some progamers probably value money as a key measurement of success, others value the glory and prestige. At one point sOs said he thoughtd MC is the best of all time because he was the #1 earner for example. | ||
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Possibly the biggest fluke of all time but it was still a glorious run. | ||
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On June 04 2018 02:40 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Is this MC's doing? He did say he wanted Mana to win MC's years of coaching paid off. He's made Mana the best foreign protoss | ||
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On June 04 2018 03:06 Elentos wrote: You know, TY's marine/tank push works on Dreamcatcher too It doesn't just work, it works even better | ||
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On June 04 2018 03:07 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: It doesn't just work, it works even better It's undefeated so far, has to be super broken. | ||
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On June 04 2018 03:09 Elentos wrote: It's undefeated so far, has to be super broken. What if the Zerg goes for a nydus? | ||
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On June 04 2018 03:12 Poopfeast 024 wrote: ok I might forgive Rapid that he knows nothing about the game for that Trogdor reference Is he the guy that talks really fast? I understand half of his sentences. I'm not a native speaker but that's the first time it has happened to me. | ||
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On June 04 2018 03:16 JyB wrote: Is he the guy that talks really fast? I understand half of his sentences. I'm not a native speaker but that's the first time it has happened to me. the guy who sound like Nathanias on speed is Wardi I think (?) the guy with the lisp is Rapid | ||
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On June 04 2018 03:19 Poopfeast 024 wrote: the guy who sound like Nathanias on speed is Wardi I think (?) the guy with the lisp is Rapid Then it might be Rapid. | ||
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On June 04 2018 03:20 JyB wrote: Then it's Rapid. The guy that sounds like Nathanias can be understood. But sometimes I struggle with the other one. correction, it's Feardragon, not Wardi | ||
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On June 04 2018 03:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Elazer playing well from a bad spot but sadly zerg doesn't have much of a comeback mechanic He detonated a single bane on a clump of marines earlier in this game... | ||
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On June 04 2018 03:22 Ej_ wrote: He detonated a single bane on a clump of marines earlier in this game... Marines are cheap | ||
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On June 04 2018 03:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Elazer playing well from a bad spot but sadly zerg doesn't have much of a comeback mechanic He was losing too many bases and his macro was slipping a fair bit. I wouldn't draw this down to lack of a comeback mechanic when SpeCial was playing a lot better | ||
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On June 04 2018 03:22 Elentos wrote: T H R E E - Z E R O C I T Y Population: 10 and counting! there's gonna be 2 more when Major and Serral have their way | ||
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On June 04 2018 03:23 DBooN wrote: Man, when was the last time one race had 2 players in the ro4?! That sounds mathematically impossible. | ||
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On June 04 2018 03:23 DBooN wrote: Man, when was the last time one race had 2 players in the ro4?! I've never even heard of that happening before. Austin truly breaking new ground. | ||
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On June 04 2018 03:30 Lorning wrote: These sc2 commercials are great haha If I didn't have it already I would buy it buy a free product? the madman but seriously, I also love these commercials | ||
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On June 04 2018 03:30 Lorning wrote: These sc2 commercials are great haha If I didn't have it already I would buy it Awesome commercials. Are they showing them to non SC2 audience though? | ||
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On June 04 2018 03:26 Poopfeast 024 wrote: calling it, it's gonna be Mana vs Lambo Mana vs Lambo... Mambo... both have to win a bo5... Mambo bo5 Sorry | ||
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On June 04 2018 03:32 yangluphil wrote: Awesome commercials. Are they showing them to non SC2 audience though? Yeah I never see them anywhere else, they should be at least using them at other blizzard games broadcasts | ||
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On June 04 2018 03:45 Lexender wrote: As a dentist I wonder if Serral has some dental problem, the way he speaks is super common in people with occlusal discrepancys I think he's just finnish. | ||
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On June 04 2018 03:45 Lexender wrote: As a dentist I wonder if Serral has some dental problem, the way he speaks is super common in people with occlusal discrepancys I thought it was just because he's Finnish | ||
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On June 04 2018 03:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I thought it was just because he's Finnish Interesting | ||
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On June 04 2018 03:45 Lexender wrote: As a dentist I wonder if Serral has some dental problem, the way he speaks is super common in people with occlusal discrepancys what do you mean with "the way he speaks" :D | ||
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Very close mouth, moves more 1 side than the other, the way his teeth mesh when speaking. You start noticing this shit everywere after you do this all day for a few years. | ||
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On June 04 2018 03:48 TheDougler wrote: This tournament is bizarre, has there ever been a tournament with more one-sided series? The most recent WeSG was all 3-0's apart from a few series iirc | ||
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On June 04 2018 03:48 Fango wrote: Do european players actually think Serral is the best zerg in the world, or do they just say that to feel better about standing no chance against him? Well he's the best non-korean zerg, so he has to be, I guess? | ||
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On June 04 2018 03:50 Lexender wrote: Very close mouth, moves more 1 side than the other, the way his teeth mesh when speaking. You start noticing this shit everywere after you do this all day for a few years. Dunno, i'm not an expert. If nothing else, atleast his accent is just cause finnish:D | ||
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On June 04 2018 03:48 Fango wrote: Do european players actually think Serral is the best zerg in the world, or do they just say that to feel better about standing no chance against him? He said Serral is the best ZvZ player in the world. He's obviously not the best Zerg in general, and imo not the best ZvZ player either, maybe top 3. | ||
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(3047) Serral 0-0 Lambo (2414) Estimated by Aligulac. Modify. | ||
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On June 04 2018 03:52 yangluphil wrote: He said Serral is the best ZvZ player in the world. He's obviously not the best Zerg in general, and imo not the best ZvZ player either, maybe top 3. behind lambo? | ||
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Yeah, I thought that was obvious  . | ||
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On June 04 2018 04:05 Elentos wrote: Should have just made 8 spines in the natural when he saw the moveout too late, the only way he can stop this is to stop the scouting lings from seeing the spire | ||
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On June 04 2018 04:05 DBooN wrote: Huh? Who is gonna win 3-0 now? I'm pretty sure this is against the rules and Serral needs to be disqualified for not taking the 3-0 from Lambo? | ||
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On June 04 2018 03:52 yangluphil wrote: He said Serral is the best ZvZ player in the world. He's obviously not the best Zerg in general, and imo not the best ZvZ player either, maybe top 3. Quite a few european players have called him the #1 zerg in the world, not just top ZvZ player. | ||
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On June 04 2018 04:07 Nerchio wrote: too late, the only way he can stop this is to stop the scouting lings from seeing the spire Lambo's ZvZs good? The "baboon builds" seem to be working out for him :o | ||
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On June 04 2018 04:16 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: 2 spines at the 3rd would have won Lambo the game Hindsight is a great thing. | ||
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That's not even hindsight. The first time it happens throw down 2 spines. Hell the SECOND time it happens throw down 2 spines. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me | ||
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On June 04 2018 04:15 chipmonklord17 wrote: lambo, put a fucking spine at your 3rd come on man Or at least an overlord to the right for spotting, he had map control | ||
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On June 04 2018 04:19 chipmonklord17 wrote: That's not even hindsight. The first time it happens throw down 2 spines. Hell the SECOND time it happens throw down 2 spines. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me Serral comes from the other side; Lambo looks like a fool. | ||
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On June 04 2018 04:19 Die4Ever wrote: Or at least an overlord to the right for spotting, he had map control An overlord doesnt really do anything though, because he still has to pull back units to deal with the roaches, which was the whole point of sending the three out. If lambo had either left a few units there or invested in spines he wins 100%. Sometimes pros in general just get too greedy because that 100-200 minerals could be something else, but this time it was needed to win | ||
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On June 04 2018 04:20 chipmonklord17 wrote: An overlord doesnt really do anything though, because he still has to pull back units to deal with the roaches, which was the whole point of sending the three out. If lambo had either left a few units there or invested in spines he wins 100%. Sometimes pros in general just get too greedy because that 100-200 minerals could be something else, but this time it was needed to win ??? Lambo kept his army home before the bust at Serral's 3rd. Lings woul'dve cleared the roaches easily. And no, making 2 spines at your base 5 minutes into the game doesn't save money. | ||
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On June 04 2018 04:22 Ej_ wrote: ??? Lambo kept his army home before the bust at Serral's 3rd. Lings woul'dve cleared the roaches easily. And no, making 2 spines at your base 5 minutes into the game doesn't save money. Every time the roaches were at lambos 3rd he had no units there to defend and the mutas were on the map. That's why they killed so many drones each time. Sure seeing it helps, but not as much as just putting spines down. | ||
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On June 04 2018 04:24 The_Templar wrote: ZvZ on Darkness Sanctuary is a good time to tune in, right? It might be hive vs hive or a nydus all-in, one of the 2 | ||
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On June 04 2018 04:24 chipmonklord17 wrote: Every time the roaches were at lambos 3rd he had no units there to defend and the mutas were on the map. That's why they killed so many drones each time. Sure seeing it helps, but not as much as just putting spines down. He had no units there cause he had no vision there. You don't need to make 2 spines to stop 3 roaches when you could have an overlord in position so your lings are there when you need them. | ||
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On June 04 2018 04:32 Elentos wrote: Lambo's struggle to do more than 1 thing at a time is what truly exemplifies the best players in the world. the gap is smaller than ever | ||
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On June 04 2018 04:31 DBooN wrote: Commentators missing Lambos hive. Random tl guy still being a douche | ||
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On June 04 2018 04:49 iNcontroL wrote: I guess with you that makes two douchebags by my count. Lol Let's be inclusive and take DBooN in to make us 3. What's next, you're gonna single him out and insult him cause he didn't get your shirt color right? | ||
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On June 04 2018 04:55 Captain Peabody wrote: I thought Incontrol had learned the lesson about getting into fights with anonymous Internet forum critics...? He's admitted that he can't just ignore it like people tell him to. And you know, fair play, if he can't he can't. But insulting people cause they say "There's a hive btw" really shouldn't be worth his time. | ||
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On June 04 2018 04:55 Captain Peabody wrote: I thought Incontrol had learned the lesson about getting into fights with anonymous Internet forum critics...? Lesson / fights lol. Just gonna call people a Douche when they act like one here. These guys shitpost 40k times and just rag on casters and players. Not gonna stop to every once in awhile call it out. It won’t stop.. obviously. But I enjoy shitposting back at them. Ok back to doing this thing! | ||
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On June 04 2018 04:58 Elentos wrote: He's admitted that he can't just ignore it like people tell him to. And you know, fair play, if he can't he can't. But insulting people cause they say "There's a hive btw" really shouldn't be worth his time. Not what he said lol. | ||
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On June 04 2018 05:01 Shellshock wrote: bigger upset? Ro4 Blizzcon Elazer losing or Serral dropping a map? DBooN saying there was a hive. | ||
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Not literally but effectively, "lol" | ||
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On June 04 2018 05:04 Penev wrote: come on viper clear temp ban for caster bashing imo Tbf, if dboon would have added a rofl or lol i could see it somewhat | ||
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On June 04 2018 05:06 The_Templar wrote: I was super skeptical of SpeCial's gameplan here but suddenly it all makes sense. Well done. TY's builds are good, that's why SpeCial copies them. | ||
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On June 04 2018 05:10 Elentos wrote: TY's builds are good, that's why SpeCial copies them. Didn't Maru do this kind of build against Patience too? I remember his tank push being smashed but he won by just sending banshee after banshee until Patiences economy was destroyed. | ||
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On June 04 2018 05:13 Meeii wrote: Didn't Maru do this kind of build against Patience too? I remember his tank push being smashed but he won by just sending banshee after banshee until Patiences economy was destroyed. So Maru is playing like TY after all?! | ||
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On June 04 2018 05:12 royalroadweed wrote: Turns out that foreign terrans jut have to play like TY not Maru. Play like TY against Protoss, play like Maru against Zerg and play like either against Terran | ||
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On June 04 2018 05:15 Ej_ wrote: Or play like uThermal and beat Serral with 4 proxy barracks. That's peak WCS memes | ||
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On June 04 2018 05:16 yangluphil wrote: ok phoenix colossi is a good pick here. He went twilight instead. I agree with Rotti, bad choice. | ||
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On June 04 2018 05:25 Luolis wrote: Major went Full NA Pretty much this, never go full NA. | ||
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EDIT: Sad times. | ||
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wtf happened to MaNa? he seems like 100 times better than last year. awesome stuff! | ||
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On June 04 2018 05:34 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Somwhere, Polt is approving of the number of nexi killed You know that when Major was 40 supply down, Polt was smiling and didn't know why. | ||
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WHAT A GAME! | ||
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not bad not bad | ||
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On June 04 2018 05:37 yangluphil wrote: Special is pretty good at multitasking. But he gotta be better at using ranged libs against Protoss if he wants to fix his TvP. He always sieges liberators in stalkers range as a first move in an engagement without moving bio forward. Do not mistake actions with achievements. He never got lib range, just reactored libs en masse. | ||
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Stats should have made 2 disruptors vs ByuN instead of 1 colossus and then he would have won the rematch. | ||
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On June 04 2018 05:38 OsaX Nymloth wrote: But man, this game was awesome but...colossi are garbage. Literally no point in making them. Distruptors the only hope for Protoss midgame. Gogo MaNa! Collosi feel too weak and disruptors feel too strong unless you're playing someone with gosu micro | ||
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On June 04 2018 05:38 Elentos wrote: He never got lib range, just reactored libs en masse. Yeah, he gotta be thinking, it's so damned hard to siege these libs since I cannot move my bios underneath them to eat disruptor shots. Liberator range should be an obvious upgrade to get at that point. But it looked like the idea never occurred to him. | ||
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On June 04 2018 05:40 Elentos wrote: I'm gonna use that game as proof that + Show Spoiler + Stats should have made 2 disruptors vs ByuN instead of 1 colossus and then he would have won the rematch. I hear you. But I have seen Stats micro'ed disruptors before. He wasn't any good at them. | ||
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On June 04 2018 05:42 Zaros wrote: Demuslim already whining about disrupters I mean it is quite a dumb unit designwise atleast :D | ||
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On June 04 2018 05:42 yangluphil wrote: I hear you. But I have seen Stats micro'ed disruptors before. He wasn't any good at them. I've seen ByuN split before, he wasn't any good at it. | ||
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On June 04 2018 05:38 Shuffleblade wrote: Remove the name tags and I would guess Maru vs herO or something =P Insane game Maru isn't that sloppy, closer to GuMiho's style | ||
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On June 04 2018 05:43 Elentos wrote: I've seen ByuN split before, he wasn't any good at it. Have you seen him focus fire disruptors though? | ||
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On June 04 2018 05:44 DBooN wrote: Have you seen him focus fire disruptors though? Should get nice and close to them for maximum focus fire. | ||
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On June 04 2018 05:44 Inflicted wrote: Maru isn't that sloppy, closer to GuMiho's style I was just thinking that both of them lack a bit of finesse compared to the mechanics monsters, but the obsession with multi-prong attacks still pays off | ||
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On June 04 2018 05:48 The_Templar wrote: Wtf, I looked away for 5 seconds? That's what Mana said. | ||
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On June 04 2018 05:51 polpot wrote: Mana is having the tournament of his life! His recent life atleast. | ||
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Is 3 years recent for a pro gamer ? | ||
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On June 04 2018 05:53 Zaros wrote: I'm telling you mana is gonna win the whole thing with a cannon rush in game 7 vs serral I want to believe! | ||
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On June 04 2018 05:54 Zaros wrote: RIP the dream + Show Spoiler + https://twitter.com/Artosis/status/1003379074855677952 God fucking damnit Artosis | ||
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On June 04 2018 05:54 Zaros wrote: RIP the dream https://twitter.com/Artosis/status/1003379074855677952 damnit | ||
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On June 04 2018 05:55 Musicus wrote: Really cool to see such a nice crowd https://twitter.com/esportstarcraft/status/1003379087082221568 PUBG kids learning about a real competitive game :D | ||
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On June 04 2018 05:59 Captain Peabody wrote: Special seems tilted Yeah he lost the moment those stalkers got to his base | ||
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I honestly would have never predicted that, but I'm so happy for you. | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:01 Fango wrote: God I hate those zealot/stalker pressure openings. If the terran doesn't realise it's coming it always feels like a guaranteed loss thats why you scv scout :D | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:04 Shellshock wrote: Serral 4-0 This. | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:04 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Special best Terran nonKorean of all time? That might be contentious Current best nonKorean Terran Highest skilled era where's the counter argument? | ||
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"At least I get 4 practice games vs Serral" :D Love it. | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:04 Shellshock wrote: Serral 4-0 yeah oh well | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:04 Shellshock wrote: Current best nonKorean Terran Highest skilled era where's the counter argument? Wait for HeroMarine's vendetta | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:03 DieuCure wrote: I'm happy for MaNa but, ffs, a PvZ finals again in WCS Circuit ... How many years has it been? Since 2012 right? Only uThermal has been in a finals since like 6 years. I might be wrong tho. Specials need to do something, he's really good but he just fails when it matters the most, damn. | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:04 Musicus wrote: wtf, since when is WCS on MLG? https://twitter.com/MLG/status/1003381782635376640 Well Activision-Blizzard owns MLG now so it's not too surprising | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:04 Musicus wrote: wtf, since when is WCS on MLG? https://twitter.com/MLG/status/1003381782635376640 That impress you? Im impress with MLG still being a thing! | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:04 Shellshock wrote: Current best nonKorean Terran Highest skilled era where's the counter argument? IM.Jurgen | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:04 Shellshock wrote: Current best nonKorean Terran Highest skilled era where's the counter argument? hightest skilled era is just a meme | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:05 F1rstAssau1t wrote: That impress you? Im impress with MLG still being a thing! MLG is owned by Activision/Blizzard. | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:05 Lexender wrote: Specials need to do something, he's really good but he just fails when it matters the most, damn. You mean when he meets protoss | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:07 FataLe wrote: It's been downhill ever since THE KING wrist problems im afraid. Fixed that for you buddy. | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Well Activision-Blizzard owns MLG now so it's not too surprising Yeah just never noticed them doing something like this before. Felt like that buyout basically only impacted CoD. | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:11 Elentos wrote: These semis went eerily similar. So did all the Ro8 matches. Finals are going to be 4-2. Trust in apophenia. | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:06 Boggyb wrote: Mana earned no WCS points at Leipzig and didn't even get out of the group phase in Austin challenger matches. Now he's in the finals. I am not sure why but the skill level at the top flattened a little bit (except Serral) so we see results like this now | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:12 Fanatic-Templar wrote: Finals are going to be 4-2. Trust in apophenia. 4-2 PVZ final, the SC2 classic | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:13 Captain Peabody wrote: I need Mana to cannon rush in the finals now Yes, first be humble if they do interview together and then cannon rush in the first two games | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:12 Fanatic-Templar wrote: Finals are going to be 4-2. Trust in apophenia. Yeah this is just a repeat of Mana's 2015 run to the finals. He's gonna lose 2-4 and this was the one and only Ro4 appearance of Lambo's career. | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:10 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Nobody remembers Welmu? How anybody could forget his accent!?!? I'll never forget how pissed QXC was after losing to Welmu on ladder all the time. "It sucks losing to someone who'se only part time when your full time" -QXC | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:10 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Nobody remembers Welmu? How anybody could forget his accent!?!? Plus his swag | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:16 Jan1997 wrote: I'll never forget how pissed QXC was after losing to Welmu on ladder all the time. "It sucks losing to someone who'se only part time when your full time" -QXC Yeah shame for qxc that Welmu was just tuu kuud. Tuu kriidi too. | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:24 Jan1997 wrote: I'm gonna get really pissed of either one of these guys do a 4-0 sweep. How on earth could you get upset if Mana somehow managed to sweep Serral? That would be a god-tier performance. | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:24 Jan1997 wrote: I'm gonna get really pissed of either one of these guys do a 4-0 sweep. if mana manages to 4-0 serral I would be too astonished to be angry | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:28 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Mana was already playing in a Dreamhack finals when Serral was just 12 years old According to liquipedia he actually won his first major in BW when Serral was 10 | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:32 Shellshock wrote: NYDUS every game symbol would be proud | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:26 Nakajin wrote: That intro reminded me that Pigbaby existed. Nevermind logic if he could find his way to a championship Mana have a shot here. How could you forget the greatest Observer series of all time? | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:32 Captain Peabody wrote: Someone needs to definitively settle whether Mana is pronounced "Man-uh" or Mahn-uh." Isn't it Ma'nah? | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:32 Shellshock wrote: NYDUS every game The unbeatable strat? Guaranteed 4.0 | ||
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I'm such a geek T.T I don't mind :p | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:33 Jan1997 wrote: Shit, the walking up to the stage part gave me goosebumps. I'm such a geek T.T I don't mind :p Same for me. It would be much more epic though if Mana had some chance to win :D | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:32 Captain Peabody wrote: Someone needs to definitively settle whether Mana is pronounced "Man-uh" or Mahn-uh." IMO it's the same as in this video: | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:15 Elentos wrote: and this was the one and only Ro4 appearance of Lambo's career. Ah come on, i mean it´s quite possible, but he played well, it´s not like it was a lucky bracket for him or anything, give that man at least 2018 to prove himself before letting him down | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:40 Shellshock wrote: Serral vs Maru blizzcon final not sure about Maru | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:40 Shellshock wrote: Serral vs Maru blizzcon final Serral fails to get out of his group going 1-2 (2-4). | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:36 Zzoram wrote: Anyone else suddenly getting major stream lag? Maybe a little lag but nothing Special | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:44 Nerchio wrote: good and surprising result by Mana in this tournament but looks like the finals will be god awful In any case I'm sure just about any Mana fan is happy he even made it to the final. It's not over yet anyway | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:48 Captain Peabody wrote: Jaedong vs Flash MSL final Only if the admins decide to give serral the win | ||
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Penev
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On June 04 2018 06:48 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: RE GAME *STOMP* *STOMP* REGAME *STOMP* *STOMP* maybe he gets tired at some point and mana has more stamina | ||
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"Mana was right there" | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:52 Nakajin wrote: Get stomp in a 10 minute straight up macro build "Mana was right there" ? He died to a roach all-in | ||
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South Africa1848 Posts
On June 04 2018 06:52 Nakajin wrote: Get stomp in a 10 minute straight up macro build "Mana was right there" I mean, technically he was "right there" in the booth and arguably the game too. He just wasn't winning | ||
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
. | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
Ya but he didn't do anything particular, his macro was just better, Mana had everything to defend it he just wasn't good enough | ||
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United Kingdom3692 Posts
On June 04 2018 06:52 Nakajin wrote: Get stomp in a 10 minute straight up macro game "Mana was right there" It was starting to look like dear vs rogue for a little while where the immortal core roles over the roach army but serral was too smart to let that happen. | ||
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Serral got super outpositioned. | ||
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stilt
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Mana is not even playing great... | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4501 Posts
On June 04 2018 07:06 Luolis wrote: These mana games look so much more like 2012 than 2018 wtf :D full circle | ||
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On June 04 2018 07:06 Inflicted wrote: MaNa makes gateway units look so good coach mc | ||
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Tyrhanius
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On June 04 2018 07:06 stilt wrote: wtf are you doing serral Mana is not even playing great... He was expecting a carrier transition, Mana brains him | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4501 Posts
On June 04 2018 07:07 Tyrhanius wrote: He was expecting a carrier transition, Mana brains him true. that final push would/could not have been made had mana been investing in fleet beacon units. Which would have been the natural flow of the game for most protoss at that point in the game. | ||
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On June 04 2018 07:08 Zzoram wrote: Common people, tune in for the finals! Viewer count is notably lower than Mana vs Special. c'mon peasants and riff raff | ||
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
On June 04 2018 07:08 Zzoram wrote: Common people, tune in for the finals! Viewer count is notably lower than Mana vs Special. Yeah, nothing better than having finals after midnight, so working people have to choose whether to sleep or watch... | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4729 Posts
On June 04 2018 07:08 Zzoram wrote: Common people, tune in for the finals! Viewer count is notably lower than Mana vs Special. Its late in Europe. | ||
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DBooN
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On June 04 2018 07:08 Zzoram wrote: Common people, tune in for the finals! Viewer count is notably lower than Mana vs Special. It's getting late for Europes working population. | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On June 04 2018 07:10 Nerchio wrote: Serral tried some strats from my playbook - attacking a 4 base protoss and losing your whole army on storms. I don't think he's going to do that again :D Nydus + Drop + Frontal on dusk tower was amazing though | ||
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
On June 04 2018 07:11 DieuCure wrote: Nydus + Drop + Frontal on dusk tower was amazing though yeah but that's 2016 Xd | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On June 04 2018 07:08 Zzoram wrote: Common people, tune in for the finals! Viewer count is notably lower than Mana vs Special. Viewercount is the same as it was before the Warcraft channel host | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:36 Nakajin wrote: By the way is Mana the first foreign player in the final of a premier tournament in all three expansion? Snute beat him to it. I thought Nerchio would be up there, but HotS was insanely Korean-dominated. The only foreign players to make finals are Stephano, Naniwa, Snute, Scarlett, Sen, Lilbow & Mana | ||
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Manaaaa | ||
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On June 04 2018 07:22 virpi wrote: wtf is happening 3 - 3 - 1 upgrades vs hive quik | ||
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On June 04 2018 07:20 FataLe wrote: ouch guys. hey remember that fight nerchio? Yeah it was fun | ||
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virpi
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On June 04 2018 07:22 Fanatic-Templar wrote: How is he winning this with Gateway trash? Balls. | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4501 Posts
tbf daybreak has the choke of all chokes. | ||
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On June 04 2018 07:23 Ramiz1989 wrote: This is the most WoL game of LotV if I ever saw one lol, nicely done by Mana. This is daddy/coach MC's legacy | ||
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Lexender
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3 robo vs hydras and broodlords is a thing apparently. | ||
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DieuCure
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He lost as many games in this bo7 as in challenger+wcs austin | ||
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Zaros
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On June 04 2018 07:25 Lexender wrote: I know I say this too much but I really hate immortals. 3 robo vs hydras and broodlords is a thing apparently. Mana just did so well with the pheonix he had more money so he can zerg the zerg with gateway units | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4501 Posts
On June 04 2018 07:26 DieuCure wrote: Serral too used to Neeb maybe ? He lost as many games in this bo7 as in challenger+wcs austin judging by their recent encounters on ladder, neeb hasn't been going carriers vs serral. | ||
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On June 04 2018 07:25 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Drunk santa is getting closer let's post polish gifs instead | ||
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Lexender
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On June 04 2018 07:26 Zaros wrote: Mana just did so well with the pheonix he had more money so he can zerg the zerg with gateway units I know I just hate how the answer to everything is a single unit. | ||
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Canada5819 Posts
On June 04 2018 07:27 Lexender wrote: I know I just hate how the answer to everything is a single unit. Roach? | ||
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United Kingdom3692 Posts
On June 04 2018 07:27 Lexender wrote: I know I just hate how the answer to everything is a single unit. how many units do you want? he had sentry, templar, stalker, zealot, immortal, archon and pheonix | ||
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nice | ||
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Luolis
Finland7104 Posts
edit: i guess not | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On June 04 2018 07:29 Luolis wrote: oh no serral is gonna lose this isnt he? yes | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
maybe | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
no | ||
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Lexender
Mexico2647 Posts
On June 04 2018 07:29 Zaros wrote: how many units do you want? he had sentry, templar, stalker, zealot, immortal, archon and pheonix I hate the massing of inmortals in general not talking specificaly about this game. | ||
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On June 04 2018 07:31 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Can't win? All in! that was not an all-in | ||
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virpi
Germany3598 Posts
Neat series so far. | ||
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Germany15961 Posts
On June 04 2018 07:31 Lexender wrote: I hate the massing of inmortals in general not talking specificaly about this game. what about massing Hydras? massing Marines? massing Banelings? massing siege tanks? massing Carriers? massing Ghosts? massing Liberators? massing Archons? massing Zerglings? | ||
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Canada5819 Posts
On June 04 2018 07:33 Luolis wrote: I think it says it all when these 2012-2014 style games make me much more hyped than basic lotv style games :D Bring back the Korean-Style 4Gate All-In! | ||
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On June 04 2018 07:33 Zzoram wrote: Was his wall just wrong? No hold position and a shield Battery? Nah, he didn't have enough units, Roaches killed few Zealots and then Lings went in, he had just one Sentry and it got killed after the first Force Field. | ||
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Bagration
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On June 04 2018 07:33 Luolis wrote: I think it says it all when these 2012-2014 style games make me much more hyped than basic lotv style games :D Variety is the spice of life | ||
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SinO[Ob]
France897 Posts
Because he did the mana stare so much. HIS EYES EVOLVED. You are welcome ppl. | ||
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Netherlands30548 Posts
On June 04 2018 07:39 SinO[Ob] wrote: I got it ppl. Because he did the mana stare so much. HIS EYES EVOLVED. You are welcome ppl. The man who never blinks became the blink stalker master | ||
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France897 Posts
On June 04 2018 07:40 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: The man who never blinks became the blink stalker master The mistery is resolved. | ||
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virpi
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On June 04 2018 07:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: the games serral wins aren't very interesting, he just kind of stomps His decision making is superb. Plus Mana didn't slow him down economically at all this game. | ||
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Penev
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:D | ||
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On June 04 2018 07:45 GumBa wrote: Time for the down to the wire cannon rush If Mana has the cojones for that it could be epic. But to be on stage, last life, and to make that call. Yikes. | ||
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On June 04 2018 06:12 Fanatic-Templar wrote: Finals are going to be 4-2. Trust in apophenia. Apophenia never fails . | ||
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Ciaus_Dronu
South Africa1848 Posts
Mana put up a really solid fight and did well this tournament, but Serral is Serral :D | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
![[image loading]](https://media.riemurasia.net/albumit/mmedia/0n/w60/mpvz/45256/1354170151.gif) RYÖKÄLE! | ||
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GG | ||
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On June 04 2018 08:01 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Oh no the final boss That bottle absolutely rekt him >.< | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
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On June 04 2018 08:08 Tyrhanius wrote: What was the best serie ? Special vs Mana no ? probably that one, ya | ||
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hexhaven
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On June 04 2018 08:08 Tyrhanius wrote: What was the best serie ? Special vs Mana no ? Easily the best games the entire tournament. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
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On June 04 2018 11:19 juicyjames wrote: Any recommended matches? Mana vs Special Game 2 | ||
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On June 04 2018 12:10 BretZ wrote: woah wtf mana Really. I was happy just to see him make it out of groups. I had no reason to expect he'd beat Neeb since he lost to Harstem. Then he beats Snute for his second team kill, and takes out Special (who honestly seemed surprised he was facing Mana because he didn't do his normal prepared builds. I feel like he might have had nothing ready) That final could have been a 4-2 or a 4-3 for Mana as well. A few key mistakes cost him, but he never looked like he was outclassed. I don't know what happened during this event, but I hope he can keep his form up for the next month or two with how many events are coming up. Also, fun fact: I asked him after the finals if he ever considered cannon rushing Serral. Unfortunately, he said no because Serral has a great response to it I was hoping throughout the finals he would drop the forge because the crowd would have loved it. | ||
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It's good for the scene to see some old stars back. Stephano performed well as well, but his ZvZ is still his nemesis unfortunately. | ||
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