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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13023 Posts
April 18 2018 13:37 GMT
#261
Fuck yeah ByuN got through
Gratz Blizzcon champion
WriterMaru
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
April 18 2018 13:37 GMT
#262
On April 18 2018 22:36 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2018 22:34 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On April 18 2018 22:31 deacon.frost wrote:
On April 18 2018 22:28 Penev wrote:
On April 18 2018 22:26 Boggyb wrote:
Mass raven is not a problem. Late game should not be auto-win for Zerg. Don't let them get there and don't throw away your army fighting into a Terran siege.

you know, it's not just about balance, it's about sitting in your base accumulating mana as well

this is just sad game play

Yeah, and using bunch of free units that doesn't cost even the energy isn't??? C'mon. Both sides are using rather disgusting ubnits, not just terran.

The reason he is using free units is because he can't do jack shit with anything else against Marines, Ghosts and Ravens unless he wants to trade super inefficiently.

I know, but as long as Zergs have these units(BL included) Blizzard won't come up with new ones. Well, honestly, i don't think Blizzard will come with any such drastic changes. But hey, at least I can hope

I've lost that kind of hope long time ago though.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
April 18 2018 13:38 GMT
#263
Korea HOLDS
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
April 18 2018 13:38 GMT
#264
On April 18 2018 22:35 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2018 22:33 Penev wrote:
On April 18 2018 22:31 deacon.frost wrote:
On April 18 2018 22:28 Penev wrote:
On April 18 2018 22:26 Boggyb wrote:
Mass raven is not a problem. Late game should not be auto-win for Zerg. Don't let them get there and don't throw away your army fighting into a Terran siege.

you know, it's not just about balance, it's about sitting in your base accumulating mana as well

this is just sad game play

Yeah, and using bunch of free units that doesn't cost even the energy isn't??? C'mon. Both sides are using rather disgusting ubnits, not just terran.

I never said it is just terran, you just assume that as does boggyb

your biases are showing I guess

Considering Zerg has played like this for years (assuming they deserve an auto win if they get hive), it is reasonable to assume you're complaining about Terran.

No it isn't because I know I wasn't. I was commenting on the lame waiting game we had to endure. I am not racial biased I just have a zerg icon. You clearly are biased and as such hard to take seriously.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-18 13:40:25
April 18 2018 13:38 GMT
#265
On April 18 2018 22:36 ArtyK wrote:
Raven good unit

Anti armor missile giving -3 armor makes marines like godly. Impossible to engage with anything while AA is up.

Still was a fun game. Elazer did well enough and Byun really had a tough time, seeing how happy he looked when he finally made it through the last defense.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33711 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-18 13:40:32
April 18 2018 13:40 GMT
#266
I was entertained until I wasn't.

Anyway, congrats to the advancing players!

AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 18 2018 13:40 GMT
#267
ByuN, what an amazing lategame player!
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-18 13:47:43
April 18 2018 13:42 GMT
#268
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
kajtarp
Profile Joined April 2011
Hungary492 Posts
April 18 2018 13:47 GMT
#269
On April 18 2018 22:42 MarianoSC2 wrote:

And Byun was only slightly less poor. What a bad day, I hope the other groups will be much better quality wise :/


Dude, this is just ro32. Bad games are to be expected.
Why so serious?
Yomi-no-Kuni
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany333 Posts
April 18 2018 13:49 GMT
#270
I really liked Elazer's Infestor and Viper use, I've seen alot worse these last couple of weeks.

But why in the world does he keep sacrificing all his stuff into the same fortified position? Build a stupid nydus network, get a bunch of droppalords and harass the main/the expansion points while defending in the middle with your spores(+spines). That way the swarmhosts would've atleast done something

Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
April 18 2018 13:52 GMT
#271
On April 18 2018 22:49 Yomi-no-Kuni wrote:
I really liked Elazer's Infestor and Viper use, I've seen alot worse these last couple of weeks.

But why in the world does he keep sacrificing all his stuff into the same fortified position? Build a stupid nydus network, get a bunch of droppalords and harass the main/the expansion points while defending in the middle with your spores(+spines). That way the swarmhosts would've atleast done something

I assume he was trying to establish that position in an attempt to deny ByuN his final base. Had he succeeded, he might have won the game.
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
April 18 2018 13:52 GMT
#272
Man, feel bad for elazer, he should have advanced. Perhaps nerves got to him, ah well happy a Terran advances though
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
April 18 2018 14:08 GMT
#273
On April 18 2018 22:52 Mithriel wrote:
Man, feel bad for elazer, he should have advanced. Perhaps nerves got to him, ah well happy a Terran advances though

Don't feel bad for a non-Korean losing in the GSL. Elazer can and will attend WCS Circuit events. Koreans who lose or don't qualify have to sit around contemplating how much longer they can afford to play the game.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
April 18 2018 14:21 GMT
#274
Elazer just seemed to stressed in the last game. Never tried to nydus or mass lings to harass. Kept sending the locusts into the same positions that were fortified every time. ByuN isn't Maru level lategame right now, he was making a lot of mistakes.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
April 18 2018 14:31 GMT
#275
I like how half the people on TL are still salty about Byun beating TY at blizzcon 2 years ago lol
Obamarauder
Profile Joined June 2015
697 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-18 14:59:02
April 18 2018 14:56 GMT
#276
this seems to be a common problem for foreigner zergs. not trying to shit on foreigners but they seem clueless in lategame ZvT since there isnt really any top terran that plays EU ladder besides uthermal. when serral streamed, he even said that he has 0 practice against ghost raven (referencing maru vs serral wesg) since games are decided much earlier due to skill difference
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
April 18 2018 15:15 GMT
#277
Good try from Elazer but his mental state seemed off for the last game, making all sorts of mistakes
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-18 15:24:09
April 18 2018 15:23 GMT
#278
On April 18 2018 23:56 Obamarauder wrote:
this seems to be a common problem for foreigner zergs. not trying to shit on foreigners but they seem clueless in lategame ZvT since there isnt really any top terran that plays EU ladder besides uthermal. when serral streamed, he even said that he has 0 practice against ghost raven (referencing maru vs serral wesg) since games are decided much earlier due to skill difference

Even uthermal stays in korea nowadays I think. The only terran threat on EU is heromarine.

Considering the best zergs in korea can struggle against the elite terrans (soO, byul, rogue etc) and they've been practicing with them since the start, I can't imagine the foreigners catching up any time soon.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Myrddrael
Profile Joined November 2012
United Kingdom291 Posts
April 18 2018 15:59 GMT
#279
On April 19 2018 00:23 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2018 23:56 Obamarauder wrote:
this seems to be a common problem for foreigner zergs. not trying to shit on foreigners but they seem clueless in lategame ZvT since there isnt really any top terran that plays EU ladder besides uthermal. when serral streamed, he even said that he has 0 practice against ghost raven (referencing maru vs serral wesg) since games are decided much earlier due to skill difference

Even uthermal stays in korea nowadays I think. The only terran threat on EU is heromarine.

Considering the best zergs in korea can struggle against the elite terrans (soO, byul, rogue etc) and they've been practicing with them since the start, I can't imagine the foreigners catching up any time soon.


True, but Elazer put on a good show even though ByuN isn't in his best form just yet. Will be interesting to see how this translates to his play vs foreign terrans in the WCS circuit.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
April 18 2018 17:28 GMT
#280
On April 19 2018 00:59 Myrddrael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2018 00:23 Fango wrote:
On April 18 2018 23:56 Obamarauder wrote:
this seems to be a common problem for foreigner zergs. not trying to shit on foreigners but they seem clueless in lategame ZvT since there isnt really any top terran that plays EU ladder besides uthermal. when serral streamed, he even said that he has 0 practice against ghost raven (referencing maru vs serral wesg) since games are decided much earlier due to skill difference

Even uthermal stays in korea nowadays I think. The only terran threat on EU is heromarine.

Considering the best zergs in korea can struggle against the elite terrans (soO, byul, rogue etc) and they've been practicing with them since the start, I can't imagine the foreigners catching up any time soon.


True, but Elazer put on a good show even though ByuN isn't in his best form just yet. Will be interesting to see how this translates to his play vs foreign terrans in the WCS circuit.


I have my doubts that foreign Terrans are going to be experts on this late game, as its even difficult for Terrans like Byun to control properly.

That said, Byun hasnt been known for his late game TvZ. I'd expect Elazer to show much less capability vs some of the other late game Terrans like Maru, TY or even Gumiho.
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