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[GSL 2018] Season 1 - Semi Finals Day 2 - Page 26

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Tyrhanius
Profile Joined April 2011
France947 Posts
March 24 2018 10:56 GMT
#501
On March 24 2018 18:36 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 17:46 Ej_ wrote:

I wish him good luck in the finals vs the Protoss player Stats and in all next iterations of the game!

Are you implying Maru can only have success in the current iteration of the game?
There is probably no player that is less dependant on a favorable meta.
Not to mention this is one of the worst metas for terran in a long time (worst since the blink era?)

Terran whine at his finest "he wins but Terran is weak".

Geo.Rion sums up the situation pretty well.
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
March 24 2018 10:57 GMT
#502
Amazing semi-finals, some very good games!
TvZ still the best matchup in Starcraft .
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28503 Posts
March 24 2018 11:27 GMT
#503
begun the caster wars have
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16008 Posts
March 24 2018 12:20 GMT
#504
On March 24 2018 19:56 Tyrhanius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 18:36 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 24 2018 17:46 Ej_ wrote:

I wish him good luck in the finals vs the Protoss player Stats and in all next iterations of the game!

Are you implying Maru can only have success in the current iteration of the game?
There is probably no player that is less dependant on a favorable meta.
Not to mention this is one of the worst metas for terran in a long time (worst since the blink era?)

Terran whine at his finest "he wins but Terran is weak".

Geo.Rion sums up the situation pretty well.

and that coming from the biggest balance whiner on the forums...
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
March 24 2018 12:36 GMT
#505
SKT vs Prime... this is gonna be great.
kiss kiss fall in love
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
March 24 2018 12:45 GMT
#506
Just watched the twitch vod since the semifinals was 5 AM for me. This match had a lot of the best games I've seen in a long time, it was amazing. TvZ is in a really great place in terms of how entertaining it is for spectators. Please let Maru take his triple crown, that would make me so happy! Maru is a god =D
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2655 Posts
March 24 2018 12:51 GMT
#507
On March 24 2018 19:56 Tyrhanius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 18:36 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 24 2018 17:46 Ej_ wrote:

I wish him good luck in the finals vs the Protoss player Stats and in all next iterations of the game!

Are you implying Maru can only have success in the current iteration of the game?
There is probably no player that is less dependant on a favorable meta.
Not to mention this is one of the worst metas for terran in a long time (worst since the blink era?)

Terran whine at his finest "he wins but Terran is weak".

Geo.Rion sums up the situation pretty well.


If by "sums up the situation pretty well" you mean insult and make personal attacks on anyone that disagrees with him don't be surprised no one takes you seriously either.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2753 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-24 13:03:07
March 24 2018 13:02 GMT
#508
What is annoying is constantly seeing terran toxicity while T got a stronger late game now.
For once, I might cheer for the protoss lol
neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
March 24 2018 13:05 GMT
#509
On March 24 2018 21:45 Shuffleblade wrote:
Just watched the twitch vod since the semifinals was 5 AM for me. This match had a lot of the best games I've seen in a long time, it was amazing. TvZ is in a really great place in terms of how entertaining it is for spectators. Please let Maru take his triple crown, that would make me so happy! Maru is a god =D


^-- I'm with this guy. Days like today are what it's all about! I'm also hoping that Maru tears Stats apart limb from limb. My ideal is a 4-0 in Maru's favour, with several really close entertaining games and at least one psyche-shattering stomp.
Maru | Life | PartinG || I guess I like aggressive control freaks... || Reynor will one day reign supreme || *reyn supreme
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-24 13:22:05
March 24 2018 13:20 GMT
#510
On March 24 2018 21:45 Shuffleblade wrote:
Just watched the twitch vod since the semifinals was 5 AM for me. This match had a lot of the best games I've seen in a long time, it was amazing. TvZ is in a really great place in terms of how entertaining it is for spectators. Please let Maru take his triple crown, that would make me so happy! Maru is a god =D

I thought Triple crown is for winning a premier tournament in KR, NA and EU, I think you mean Triple Premier Starleague wins (AKA at least a win in one GSL, one OSL and one SSL), which is a title ONLY POSSIBLE for Maru since the only other SC2 OSL Winner Rain is retired.
Unless OSL return back to SC2
Faker is the GOAT!
ShAd_1337
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany1042 Posts
March 24 2018 13:28 GMT
#511
ridiculous
I like Dark
ionONE
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany605 Posts
March 24 2018 13:41 GMT
#512
Awesome series, from cheese to late late game A+. Whenever i try to watch, games tend to be very short in lotv so it was nice to sit down and watch it all unfold past the 20 min mark
JANGBI never forget
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
March 24 2018 14:13 GMT
#513
That was best LotV series I have ever seen. Absolutely amazing! Game on Darkness Sanctuary was my favourite and once again I really miss 4 spawn maps. There just seems to be way more variety in playstyle when map changes depending on spawns. That game had hidden bases, swarmhosts nukes and battlecruisers. Insanity.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
March 24 2018 14:29 GMT
#514
Was this recommended?
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Tyrhanius
Profile Joined April 2011
France947 Posts
March 24 2018 14:33 GMT
#515
On March 24 2018 21:20 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 19:56 Tyrhanius wrote:
On March 24 2018 18:36 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 24 2018 17:46 Ej_ wrote:

I wish him good luck in the finals vs the Protoss player Stats and in all next iterations of the game!

Are you implying Maru can only have success in the current iteration of the game?
There is probably no player that is less dependant on a favorable meta.
Not to mention this is one of the worst metas for terran in a long time (worst since the blink era?)

Terran whine at his finest "he wins but Terran is weak".

Geo.Rion sums up the situation pretty well.

and that coming from the biggest balance whiner on the forums...

And I've forgotten that when you doesn't agree with a terran you're "a big whiner"
GrandTerran
Profile Blog Joined January 2018
71 Posts
March 24 2018 14:33 GMT
#516
On March 24 2018 23:29 juicyjames wrote:
Was this recommended?


Great series.

Is there a way to hide the length of the video? I knew the result by towards the middle of game 6
-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2142 Posts
March 24 2018 15:10 GMT
#517
On March 24 2018 21:45 Shuffleblade wrote:
Just watched the twitch vod since the semifinals was 5 AM for me. This match had a lot of the best games I've seen in a long time, it was amazing. TvZ is in a really great place in terms of how entertaining it is for spectators. Please let Maru take his triple crown, that would make me so happy! Maru is a god =D

didn't you get the memo? you aren't supposed to be actually enjoying the games and appreciating the players' skill, you're just supposed to be whining about how your favorite race is underpowered
vibeo gane,
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
March 24 2018 15:18 GMT
#518
only caught the last two games, but what i saw was pretty boring

mech/skyterran with tons of turrets, PFs, sensor towers with a zerg repeatedly trying and failing to throw units into a wall and trade effectively is something we've seen before, it wasn't interesting then, and it's not interesting now just because maru can spam snipes really fast or because ravens have a differently colored missile now

i have no idea if it's "balanced" - maybe maru is better than dark. but it looks like literally the same shit that pro turtle tvz has always been, and how anyone can call that good for spectators baffles me

maru vs stats should be great though
TL+ Member
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
March 24 2018 15:23 GMT
#519
So, this is the same as what I saw at WESG, and what I complained about then (and other people are complaining about).

It's not that Maru isn't excellent, or maybe even the more skilled player. He's clearly extremely extremely good ,and can use his skill to win games with all sorts of strategies.

But the style he is relying on.... is kind of like..

well it's like he could tell his opponent everything he is planning on doing and it still wouldn't matter. There is no psychology or counter. It's just in his execution. If he is patient and executes it correctly, then his (zerg) opponent cannot win.
neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
March 24 2018 15:48 GMT
#520
On March 25 2018 00:23 travis wrote:
So, this is the same as what I saw at WESG, and what I complained about then (and other people are complaining about).

It's not that Maru isn't excellent, or maybe even the more skilled player. He's clearly extremely extremely good ,and can use his skill to win games with all sorts of strategies.

But the style he is relying on.... is kind of like..

well it's like he could tell his opponent everything he is planning on doing and it still wouldn't matter. There is no psychology or counter. It's just in his execution. If he is patient and executes it correctly, then his (zerg) opponent cannot win.


Hmm, is the excitement of the game for you mostly about the mind games and build-order strategies generally?

I find it a bit of a weird criticism considering how game 6 hinged on sneaky play and game 2 was both players doing early game cheese. And considering Maru went mech in some games and bio in others... And considering how WESG had 3 games that went in Dark's favour and he looked like he had Maru's number in the late game if not for those final two cheeses.

I mean, if that's how it looked to you, that's how it looked. But I'm finding it hard to see it from your angle. To me, he looks very good but not unbeatable (though he was a step ahead of Dark overall in this series, unlike WESG), and he also looks like he's varying his play.

But then again, I remember when PartinG had strategies where he would literally say the build he was going to do and he would win with it all the time anyway because of his insane execution, and I thought that was amazing and very entertaining to watch, so maybe I'm also more entertained by incredible top-end micro intensive execution in general.
Maru | Life | PartinG || I guess I like aggressive control freaks... || Reynor will one day reign supreme || *reyn supreme
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