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D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
March 17 2018 06:21 GMT
#241
On March 17 2018 15:16 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 15:12 Hephaistas89 wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:53 argonautdice wrote:
how come sometimes when someone whines about balance they get banned while other times nothing happens?


Only get banned when you complain about other races then Zerg.


But yeah the balance whine here is a joke.

Lots of Protoss and Terran are doing fine, Neeb and Inno are just out of form


By lots of terrans doing fine you mean Maru, MoustacheTerran, PirateTerran, and TerranSucksBallsWithoutMe right?

You forgot TerranSucksBallsWithoutRavens.
why even
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
March 17 2018 06:21 GMT
#242
On March 17 2018 15:10 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 15:07 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 17 2018 15:00 MrWayne wrote:
Serral played just way better today than Neeb, deserved victory. I enjoy the Protoss salt

btw Neeb was not the best foreigner in 2016.

He had the most WCS points

He had consistent results throughout the year and won Kespa Cup which got him a ton of points, but he was never the consensus #1.

Uhmm, he definitely was the consensus #1 after winning Kespa Cup
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Hephaistas89
Profile Joined July 2017
38 Posts
March 17 2018 06:24 GMT
#243
On March 17 2018 15:16 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 15:12 Hephaistas89 wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:53 argonautdice wrote:
how come sometimes when someone whines about balance they get banned while other times nothing happens?


Only get banned when you complain about other races then Zerg.


But yeah the balance whine here is a joke.

Lots of Protoss and Terran are doing fine, Neeb and Inno are just out of form


By lots of terrans doing fine you mean Maru, MoustacheTerran, PirateTerran, and TerranSucksBallsWithoutMe right?


Alive and TY did fine in GSL, just unlucky in getting soO and Dark.

ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 17 2018 06:27 GMT
#244
All these zergs teasing us with the Nydus, but then getting insta-scouted .
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 06:27:37
March 17 2018 06:27 GMT
#245
Serral is so good at the moment. Most of the time player is dominant they also have favorable meta on their side. Serral is still the best foreigner at the moment
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
March 17 2018 06:27 GMT
#246
On March 17 2018 15:24 Hephaistas89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 15:16 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 17 2018 15:12 Hephaistas89 wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:53 argonautdice wrote:
how come sometimes when someone whines about balance they get banned while other times nothing happens?


Only get banned when you complain about other races then Zerg.


But yeah the balance whine here is a joke.

Lots of Protoss and Terran are doing fine, Neeb and Inno are just out of form


By lots of terrans doing fine you mean Maru, MoustacheTerran, PirateTerran, and TerranSucksBallsWithoutMe right?


Alive and TY did fine in GSL, just unlucky in getting soO and Dark.


Beating B team opponents and being rolled by people of similar skill= fine.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 06:30:57
March 17 2018 06:29 GMT
#247
Maru is literally solo carrying Terran atm

Yknow the guy who is arguably most famous for his amazing blink-era performance. The guy renowned for doing well when Terran isn't.

He got nicknamed the Fourth Race for a reason.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 17 2018 06:32 GMT
#248
Eastwatch should be good for Zerg, but maybe Classic getting the gold easily changes that.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33505 Posts
March 17 2018 06:33 GMT
#249
Man, Classic is so disciplined
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 06:33:50
March 17 2018 06:33 GMT
#250
that was bad by elazer. still can't blame him for losing to classic, gg.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
March 17 2018 06:33 GMT
#251
On March 17 2018 15:29 pvsnp wrote:
Maru is literally solo carrying Terran atm

Yknow the guy who is arguably most famous for his amazing blink-era performance. The guy renowned for doing well when Terran isn't.

He got nicknamed the Fourth Race for a reason.

If Maru is carrying Terran, than Rogue is carrying Zerg, at least in Korea. The last time a Zerg won a tournament with more than 2 Koreans in it that wasn't Rogue was when Dark won the Cross Finals in September 2016.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 17 2018 06:33 GMT
#252
These Korean players just so happen to be pretty okay at Starcraft 2: Legacy of the Void
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
March 17 2018 06:34 GMT
#253
On March 17 2018 15:33 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
These Korean players just so happen to be pretty okay at Starcraft 2: Legacy of the Void

Starcraft 2 : Legacy of the Void for PC*
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 06:38:53
March 17 2018 06:35 GMT
#254
On March 17 2018 15:33 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 15:29 pvsnp wrote:
Maru is literally solo carrying Terran atm

Yknow the guy who is arguably most famous for his amazing blink-era performance. The guy renowned for doing well when Terran isn't.

He got nicknamed the Fourth Race for a reason.

If Maru is carrying Terran, than Rogue is carrying Zerg, at least in Korea. The last time a Zerg won a tournament with more than 2 Koreans in it that wasn't Rogue was when Dark won the Cross Finals in September 2016.

Except that Zergs have actually been doing just fine in tournaments until soO chokes in the finals. And now that Zerg has very literally won every single major tournament since September 2017, I think they're doing more than fine.

Whereas Maru is literally the only Terran in the playoffs multiple tournaments in a row.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
March 17 2018 06:35 GMT
#255
On March 17 2018 15:34 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 15:33 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
These Korean players just so happen to be pretty okay at Starcraft 2: Legacy of the Void

Starcraft 2 : Legacy of the Void for PC*


Star Craft 2: Legacy of the Void Free for PC*
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
March 17 2018 06:36 GMT
#256
On March 17 2018 15:33 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 15:29 pvsnp wrote:
Maru is literally solo carrying Terran atm

Yknow the guy who is arguably most famous for his amazing blink-era performance. The guy renowned for doing well when Terran isn't.

He got nicknamed the Fourth Race for a reason.

If Maru is carrying Terran, than Rogue is carrying Zerg, at least in Korea. The last time a Zerg won a tournament with more than 2 Koreans in it that wasn't Rogue was when Dark won the Cross Finals in September 2016.

That's because soO and Dark always lose in the finals
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 17 2018 06:36 GMT
#257
On March 17 2018 15:33 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 15:29 pvsnp wrote:
Maru is literally solo carrying Terran atm

Yknow the guy who is arguably most famous for his amazing blink-era performance. The guy renowned for doing well when Terran isn't.

He got nicknamed the Fourth Race for a reason.

If Maru is carrying Terran, than Rogue is carrying Zerg, at least in Korea. The last time a Zerg won a tournament with more than 2 Koreans in it that wasn't Rogue was when Dark won the Cross Finals in September 2016.


I mean Rogue ZvZed out soO at Blizzcon. So the highly specific tournament criteria you're cherrypicking don't sound that great.
Hephaistas89
Profile Joined July 2017
38 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 06:38:56
March 17 2018 06:36 GMT
#258
On March 17 2018 15:27 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 15:24 Hephaistas89 wrote:
On March 17 2018 15:16 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 17 2018 15:12 Hephaistas89 wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:53 argonautdice wrote:
how come sometimes when someone whines about balance they get banned while other times nothing happens?


Only get banned when you complain about other races then Zerg.


But yeah the balance whine here is a joke.

Lots of Protoss and Terran are doing fine, Neeb and Inno are just out of form


By lots of terrans doing fine you mean Maru, MoustacheTerran, PirateTerran, and TerranSucksBallsWithoutMe right?


Alive and TY did fine in GSL, just unlucky in getting soO and Dark.


Beating B team opponents and being rolled by people of similar skill= fine.


You really act like a whiny little bitch.

Rogue is a B teamer?

And Uthermal came very close to beating Dark, but I guess when Zergs lose they just play bad and when Terran loses it's balance.

Anyway other Terran players should watch Maru, the guy is honestly insane, lots to learn from his play
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
March 17 2018 06:37 GMT
#259
On March 17 2018 15:33 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 15:29 pvsnp wrote:
Maru is literally solo carrying Terran atm

Yknow the guy who is arguably most famous for his amazing blink-era performance. The guy renowned for doing well when Terran isn't.

He got nicknamed the Fourth Race for a reason.

If Maru is carrying Terran, than Rogue is carrying Zerg, at least in Korea. The last time a Zerg won a tournament with more than 2 Koreans in it that wasn't Rogue was when Dark won the Cross Finals in September 2016.

I do like how this specific wording conveniently leaves out Scarlett's victory.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
MrWayne
Profile Joined December 2016
219 Posts
March 17 2018 06:37 GMT
#260
turns out PvZ is sill winnable. Looks like Neeb just have to git gud.
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