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On March 17 2018 14:35 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2018 14:29 Boggyb wrote:On March 17 2018 14:27 Nerchio wrote:On March 17 2018 14:26 youngjiddle wrote: the patch can't come fast enough. you can't nerf skill  It's funny how all of these Zerg players have shot up in skill since December. Serral was a top 3 foreign Zerg before the patch. And? Not saying he's a patchzerg but there's a huge difference between top 3 foreign Zerg and being the undisputed best foreigner.
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3 hours before next Serral match starts wtf
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On March 17 2018 14:29 Boggyb wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2018 14:27 Nerchio wrote:On March 17 2018 14:26 youngjiddle wrote: the patch can't come fast enough. you can't nerf skill  It's funny how all of these Zerg players have shot up in skill since December. And Terrans and Protosses became shit at the game overnight, thank god Zergs like Serral and Scarlett are putting garbage like Innovation and sOs where they belong thru raw skill. Must be Kespa disband or training in korea.
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On March 17 2018 14:40 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: 3 hours before next Serral match starts wtf
At the rate we're going it won't take three hours especially with a ZvZ.
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On March 17 2018 14:41 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2018 14:40 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: 3 hours before next Serral match starts wtf At the rate we're going it won't take three hours especially with a ZvZ. Never know.
Anyways it seems like I wont sleep today
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On March 17 2018 14:38 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2018 14:35 Solar424 wrote:On March 17 2018 14:29 Boggyb wrote:On March 17 2018 14:27 Nerchio wrote:On March 17 2018 14:26 youngjiddle wrote: the patch can't come fast enough. you can't nerf skill  It's funny how all of these Zerg players have shot up in skill since December. Serral was a top 3 foreign Zerg before the patch. And? Not saying he's a patchzerg but there's a huge difference between top 3 foreign Zerg and being the undisputed best foreigner. The best foreigner has pretty much always been a Zerg, so it's not too much of a leap.
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On March 17 2018 14:43 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2018 14:38 Charoisaur wrote:On March 17 2018 14:35 Solar424 wrote:On March 17 2018 14:29 Boggyb wrote:On March 17 2018 14:27 Nerchio wrote:On March 17 2018 14:26 youngjiddle wrote: the patch can't come fast enough. you can't nerf skill  It's funny how all of these Zerg players have shot up in skill since December. Serral was a top 3 foreign Zerg before the patch. And? Not saying he's a patchzerg but there's a huge difference between top 3 foreign Zerg and being the undisputed best foreigner. The best foreigner has pretty much always been a Zerg, so it's not too much of a leap.
Except the best foreigner for the past ~3 years has undisputedly been Neeb.. and we just saw him get dismantled with ease in a matchup with 43% winrate... I think we have our answer.
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On March 17 2018 14:43 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2018 14:38 Charoisaur wrote:On March 17 2018 14:35 Solar424 wrote:On March 17 2018 14:29 Boggyb wrote:On March 17 2018 14:27 Nerchio wrote:On March 17 2018 14:26 youngjiddle wrote: the patch can't come fast enough. you can't nerf skill  It's funny how all of these Zerg players have shot up in skill since December. Serral was a top 3 foreign Zerg before the patch. And? Not saying he's a patchzerg but there's a huge difference between top 3 foreign Zerg and being the undisputed best foreigner. The best foreigner has pretty much always been a Zerg, so it's not too much of a leap. When was the last time the best foreigner was a Zerg before Serral. Snute in HotS?
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On March 17 2018 14:45 SnowfaLL wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2018 14:43 Solar424 wrote:On March 17 2018 14:38 Charoisaur wrote:On March 17 2018 14:35 Solar424 wrote:On March 17 2018 14:29 Boggyb wrote:On March 17 2018 14:27 Nerchio wrote:On March 17 2018 14:26 youngjiddle wrote: the patch can't come fast enough. you can't nerf skill  It's funny how all of these Zerg players have shot up in skill since December. Serral was a top 3 foreign Zerg before the patch. And? Not saying he's a patchzerg but there's a huge difference between top 3 foreign Zerg and being the undisputed best foreigner. The best foreigner has pretty much always been a Zerg, so it's not too much of a leap. Except the best foreigner for the past ~3 years has undisputedly been Neeb.. and we just saw him get dismantled with ease in a matchup with 43% winrate... I think we have our answer.
Three years? Neeb wasn't anywhere close to the best anything in 2015.
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On March 17 2018 14:47 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2018 14:45 SnowfaLL wrote:On March 17 2018 14:43 Solar424 wrote:On March 17 2018 14:38 Charoisaur wrote:On March 17 2018 14:35 Solar424 wrote:On March 17 2018 14:29 Boggyb wrote:On March 17 2018 14:27 Nerchio wrote:On March 17 2018 14:26 youngjiddle wrote: the patch can't come fast enough. you can't nerf skill  It's funny how all of these Zerg players have shot up in skill since December. Serral was a top 3 foreign Zerg before the patch. And? Not saying he's a patchzerg but there's a huge difference between top 3 foreign Zerg and being the undisputed best foreigner. The best foreigner has pretty much always been a Zerg, so it's not too much of a leap. Except the best foreigner for the past ~3 years has undisputedly been Neeb.. and we just saw him get dismantled with ease in a matchup with 43% winrate... I think we have our answer. Three years? Neeb wasn't anywhere close to the best anything in 2015. He was, but he was choosing the wrong race in lobbies.
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On March 17 2018 14:45 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2018 14:43 Solar424 wrote:On March 17 2018 14:38 Charoisaur wrote:On March 17 2018 14:35 Solar424 wrote:On March 17 2018 14:29 Boggyb wrote:On March 17 2018 14:27 Nerchio wrote:On March 17 2018 14:26 youngjiddle wrote: the patch can't come fast enough. you can't nerf skill  It's funny how all of these Zerg players have shot up in skill since December. Serral was a top 3 foreign Zerg before the patch. And? Not saying he's a patchzerg but there's a huge difference between top 3 foreign Zerg and being the undisputed best foreigner. The best foreigner has pretty much always been a Zerg, so it's not too much of a leap. When was the last time the best foreigner was a Zerg before Serral. Snute in HotS? Nerchio in 2016, and even in 2017 the top 5 were 4 Zergs with Neeb at the top.
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On March 17 2018 14:48 Morbidius wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2018 14:47 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On March 17 2018 14:45 SnowfaLL wrote:On March 17 2018 14:43 Solar424 wrote:On March 17 2018 14:38 Charoisaur wrote:On March 17 2018 14:35 Solar424 wrote:On March 17 2018 14:29 Boggyb wrote:On March 17 2018 14:27 Nerchio wrote:On March 17 2018 14:26 youngjiddle wrote: the patch can't come fast enough. you can't nerf skill  It's funny how all of these Zerg players have shot up in skill since December. Serral was a top 3 foreign Zerg before the patch. And? Not saying he's a patchzerg but there's a huge difference between top 3 foreign Zerg and being the undisputed best foreigner. The best foreigner has pretty much always been a Zerg, so it's not too much of a leap. Except the best foreigner for the past ~3 years has undisputedly been Neeb.. and we just saw him get dismantled with ease in a matchup with 43% winrate... I think we have our answer. Three years? Neeb wasn't anywhere close to the best anything in 2015. He was, but he was choosing the wrong race in lobbies.
Pretty sure he had already seen the Khala back in 2015.
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Something something balance whining when there's already a nerf on the way
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On March 17 2018 14:49 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2018 14:45 Charoisaur wrote:On March 17 2018 14:43 Solar424 wrote:On March 17 2018 14:38 Charoisaur wrote:On March 17 2018 14:35 Solar424 wrote:On March 17 2018 14:29 Boggyb wrote:On March 17 2018 14:27 Nerchio wrote:On March 17 2018 14:26 youngjiddle wrote: the patch can't come fast enough. you can't nerf skill  It's funny how all of these Zerg players have shot up in skill since December. Serral was a top 3 foreign Zerg before the patch. And? Not saying he's a patchzerg but there's a huge difference between top 3 foreign Zerg and being the undisputed best foreigner. The best foreigner has pretty much always been a Zerg, so it's not too much of a leap. When was the last time the best foreigner was a Zerg before Serral. Snute in HotS? Nerchio in 2016, and even in 2017 the top 5 were 4 Zergs with Neeb at the top. I don't think Nerchio was ever the best foreigner, either Showtime or Neeb were always ahead of him.
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I'd like to see Elazer go for a roach warren like Serral did. It just seems more stable than trying to hold everything with +1 lings especially against the way Classic plays.
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how come sometimes when someone whines about balance they get banned while other times nothing happens?
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On March 17 2018 14:40 Morbidius wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2018 14:29 Boggyb wrote:On March 17 2018 14:27 Nerchio wrote:On March 17 2018 14:26 youngjiddle wrote: the patch can't come fast enough. you can't nerf skill  It's funny how all of these Zerg players have shot up in skill since December. And Terrans and Protosses became shit at the game overnight, thank god Zergs like Serral and Scarlett are putting garbage like Innovation and sOs where they belong thru raw skill. Must be Kespa disband or training in korea. That's just Scarlett.
But yeah surely this patch made Serral since before he was trash (just ask neeb) and barely winning against anyone, and a lot of the wins haven't been against other zergs.
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On March 17 2018 14:53 ZigguratOfUr wrote: I'd like to see Elazer go for a roach warren like Serral did. It just seems more stable than trying to hold everything with +1 lings especially against the way Classic plays. I'd like to see Elazer going for a Nydus
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Let's go Classic.
On March 17 2018 14:53 argonautdice wrote: how come sometimes when someone whines about balance they get banned while other times nothing happens? Length and quality of posting history among other factors I guess.
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On March 17 2018 14:53 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2018 14:49 Solar424 wrote:On March 17 2018 14:45 Charoisaur wrote:On March 17 2018 14:43 Solar424 wrote:On March 17 2018 14:38 Charoisaur wrote:On March 17 2018 14:35 Solar424 wrote:On March 17 2018 14:29 Boggyb wrote:On March 17 2018 14:27 Nerchio wrote:On March 17 2018 14:26 youngjiddle wrote: the patch can't come fast enough. you can't nerf skill  It's funny how all of these Zerg players have shot up in skill since December. Serral was a top 3 foreign Zerg before the patch. And? Not saying he's a patchzerg but there's a huge difference between top 3 foreign Zerg and being the undisputed best foreigner. The best foreigner has pretty much always been a Zerg, so it's not too much of a leap. When was the last time the best foreigner was a Zerg before Serral. Snute in HotS? Nerchio in 2016, and even in 2017 the top 5 were 4 Zergs with Neeb at the top. I don't think Nerchio was ever the best foreigner, either Showtime or Neeb were always ahead of him.
I think he was the best foreigner in April-May 2016 in between Snute and Showtime. Also mid-2012 I think he was the best at some point in between Stephano's reign?
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