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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15883 Posts
March 17 2018 05:38 GMT
#201
On March 17 2018 14:35 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 14:29 Boggyb wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:27 Nerchio wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:26 youngjiddle wrote:
the patch can't come fast enough.

you can't nerf skill

It's funny how all of these Zerg players have shot up in skill since December.

Serral was a top 3 foreign Zerg before the patch.

And?
Not saying he's a patchzerg but there's a huge difference between top 3 foreign Zerg and being the undisputed best foreigner.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 05:41:52
March 17 2018 05:40 GMT
#202
3 hours before next Serral match starts wtf
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 05:41:53
March 17 2018 05:40 GMT
#203
On March 17 2018 14:29 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 14:27 Nerchio wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:26 youngjiddle wrote:
the patch can't come fast enough.

you can't nerf skill

It's funny how all of these Zerg players have shot up in skill since December.

And Terrans and Protosses became shit at the game overnight, thank god Zergs like Serral and Scarlett are putting garbage like Innovation and sOs where they belong thru raw skill. Must be Kespa disband or training in korea.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 17 2018 05:41 GMT
#204
On March 17 2018 14:40 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
3 hours before next Serral match starts wtf


At the rate we're going it won't take three hours especially with a ZvZ.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
March 17 2018 05:42 GMT
#205
On March 17 2018 14:41 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 14:40 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
3 hours before next Serral match starts wtf


At the rate we're going it won't take three hours especially with a ZvZ.

Never know.

Anyways it seems like I wont sleep today
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
March 17 2018 05:43 GMT
#206
On March 17 2018 14:38 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 14:35 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:29 Boggyb wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:27 Nerchio wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:26 youngjiddle wrote:
the patch can't come fast enough.

you can't nerf skill

It's funny how all of these Zerg players have shot up in skill since December.

Serral was a top 3 foreign Zerg before the patch.

And?
Not saying he's a patchzerg but there's a huge difference between top 3 foreign Zerg and being the undisputed best foreigner.

The best foreigner has pretty much always been a Zerg, so it's not too much of a leap.
SnowfaLL
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada730 Posts
March 17 2018 05:45 GMT
#207
On March 17 2018 14:43 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 14:38 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:35 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:29 Boggyb wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:27 Nerchio wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:26 youngjiddle wrote:
the patch can't come fast enough.

you can't nerf skill

It's funny how all of these Zerg players have shot up in skill since December.

Serral was a top 3 foreign Zerg before the patch.

And?
Not saying he's a patchzerg but there's a huge difference between top 3 foreign Zerg and being the undisputed best foreigner.

The best foreigner has pretty much always been a Zerg, so it's not too much of a leap.


Except the best foreigner for the past ~3 years has undisputedly been Neeb.. and we just saw him get dismantled with ease in a matchup with 43% winrate... I think we have our answer.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15883 Posts
March 17 2018 05:45 GMT
#208
On March 17 2018 14:43 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 14:38 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:35 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:29 Boggyb wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:27 Nerchio wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:26 youngjiddle wrote:
the patch can't come fast enough.

you can't nerf skill

It's funny how all of these Zerg players have shot up in skill since December.

Serral was a top 3 foreign Zerg before the patch.

And?
Not saying he's a patchzerg but there's a huge difference between top 3 foreign Zerg and being the undisputed best foreigner.

The best foreigner has pretty much always been a Zerg, so it's not too much of a leap.

When was the last time the best foreigner was a Zerg before Serral.
Snute in HotS?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 17 2018 05:47 GMT
#209
On March 17 2018 14:45 SnowfaLL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 14:43 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:38 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:35 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:29 Boggyb wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:27 Nerchio wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:26 youngjiddle wrote:
the patch can't come fast enough.

you can't nerf skill

It's funny how all of these Zerg players have shot up in skill since December.

Serral was a top 3 foreign Zerg before the patch.

And?
Not saying he's a patchzerg but there's a huge difference between top 3 foreign Zerg and being the undisputed best foreigner.

The best foreigner has pretty much always been a Zerg, so it's not too much of a leap.


Except the best foreigner for the past ~3 years has undisputedly been Neeb.. and we just saw him get dismantled with ease in a matchup with 43% winrate... I think we have our answer.


Three years? Neeb wasn't anywhere close to the best anything in 2015.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
March 17 2018 05:48 GMT
#210
On March 17 2018 14:47 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 14:45 SnowfaLL wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:43 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:38 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:35 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:29 Boggyb wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:27 Nerchio wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:26 youngjiddle wrote:
the patch can't come fast enough.

you can't nerf skill

It's funny how all of these Zerg players have shot up in skill since December.

Serral was a top 3 foreign Zerg before the patch.

And?
Not saying he's a patchzerg but there's a huge difference between top 3 foreign Zerg and being the undisputed best foreigner.

The best foreigner has pretty much always been a Zerg, so it's not too much of a leap.


Except the best foreigner for the past ~3 years has undisputedly been Neeb.. and we just saw him get dismantled with ease in a matchup with 43% winrate... I think we have our answer.


Three years? Neeb wasn't anywhere close to the best anything in 2015.

He was, but he was choosing the wrong race in lobbies.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
March 17 2018 05:49 GMT
#211
On March 17 2018 14:45 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 14:43 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:38 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:35 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:29 Boggyb wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:27 Nerchio wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:26 youngjiddle wrote:
the patch can't come fast enough.

you can't nerf skill

It's funny how all of these Zerg players have shot up in skill since December.

Serral was a top 3 foreign Zerg before the patch.

And?
Not saying he's a patchzerg but there's a huge difference between top 3 foreign Zerg and being the undisputed best foreigner.

The best foreigner has pretty much always been a Zerg, so it's not too much of a leap.

When was the last time the best foreigner was a Zerg before Serral.
Snute in HotS?

Nerchio in 2016, and even in 2017 the top 5 were 4 Zergs with Neeb at the top.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 17 2018 05:50 GMT
#212
On March 17 2018 14:48 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 14:47 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:45 SnowfaLL wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:43 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:38 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:35 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:29 Boggyb wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:27 Nerchio wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:26 youngjiddle wrote:
the patch can't come fast enough.

you can't nerf skill

It's funny how all of these Zerg players have shot up in skill since December.

Serral was a top 3 foreign Zerg before the patch.

And?
Not saying he's a patchzerg but there's a huge difference between top 3 foreign Zerg and being the undisputed best foreigner.

The best foreigner has pretty much always been a Zerg, so it's not too much of a leap.


Except the best foreigner for the past ~3 years has undisputedly been Neeb.. and we just saw him get dismantled with ease in a matchup with 43% winrate... I think we have our answer.


Three years? Neeb wasn't anywhere close to the best anything in 2015.

He was, but he was choosing the wrong race in lobbies.


Pretty sure he had already seen the Khala back in 2015.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 17 2018 05:53 GMT
#213
Something something balance whining when there's already a nerf on the way
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15883 Posts
March 17 2018 05:53 GMT
#214
On March 17 2018 14:49 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 14:45 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:43 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:38 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:35 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:29 Boggyb wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:27 Nerchio wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:26 youngjiddle wrote:
the patch can't come fast enough.

you can't nerf skill

It's funny how all of these Zerg players have shot up in skill since December.

Serral was a top 3 foreign Zerg before the patch.

And?
Not saying he's a patchzerg but there's a huge difference between top 3 foreign Zerg and being the undisputed best foreigner.

The best foreigner has pretty much always been a Zerg, so it's not too much of a leap.

When was the last time the best foreigner was a Zerg before Serral.
Snute in HotS?

Nerchio in 2016, and even in 2017 the top 5 were 4 Zergs with Neeb at the top.

I don't think Nerchio was ever the best foreigner, either Showtime or Neeb were always ahead of him.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 17 2018 05:53 GMT
#215
I'd like to see Elazer go for a roach warren like Serral did. It just seems more stable than trying to hold everything with +1 lings especially against the way Classic plays.
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2705 Posts
March 17 2018 05:53 GMT
#216
how come sometimes when someone whines about balance they get banned while other times nothing happens?
very illegal and very uncool
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
March 17 2018 05:54 GMT
#217
On March 17 2018 14:40 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 14:29 Boggyb wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:27 Nerchio wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:26 youngjiddle wrote:
the patch can't come fast enough.

you can't nerf skill

It's funny how all of these Zerg players have shot up in skill since December.

And Terrans and Protosses became shit at the game overnight, thank god Zergs like Serral and Scarlett are putting garbage like Innovation and sOs where they belong thru raw skill. Must be Kespa disband or training in korea.

That's just Scarlett.

But yeah surely this patch made Serral since before he was trash (just ask neeb) and barely winning against anyone, and a lot of the wins haven't been against other zergs.
why even
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15883 Posts
March 17 2018 05:55 GMT
#218
On March 17 2018 14:53 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
I'd like to see Elazer go for a roach warren like Serral did. It just seems more stable than trying to hold everything with +1 lings especially against the way Classic plays.

I'd like to see Elazer going for a Nydus
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 05:56:06
March 17 2018 05:55 GMT
#219
Let's go Classic.

On March 17 2018 14:53 argonautdice wrote:
how come sometimes when someone whines about balance they get banned while other times nothing happens?

Length and quality of posting history among other factors I guess.

why even
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 05:58:53
March 17 2018 05:56 GMT
#220
On March 17 2018 14:53 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 14:49 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:45 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:43 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:38 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:35 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:29 Boggyb wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:27 Nerchio wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:26 youngjiddle wrote:
the patch can't come fast enough.

you can't nerf skill

It's funny how all of these Zerg players have shot up in skill since December.

Serral was a top 3 foreign Zerg before the patch.

And?
Not saying he's a patchzerg but there's a huge difference between top 3 foreign Zerg and being the undisputed best foreigner.

The best foreigner has pretty much always been a Zerg, so it's not too much of a leap.

When was the last time the best foreigner was a Zerg before Serral.
Snute in HotS?

Nerchio in 2016, and even in 2017 the top 5 were 4 Zergs with Neeb at the top.

I don't think Nerchio was ever the best foreigner, either Showtime or Neeb were always ahead of him.


I think he was the best foreigner in April-May 2016 in between Snute and Showtime. Also mid-2012 I think he was the best at some point in between Stephano's reign?
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