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On March 17 2018 14:54 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2018 14:40 Morbidius wrote:On March 17 2018 14:29 Boggyb wrote:On March 17 2018 14:27 Nerchio wrote:On March 17 2018 14:26 youngjiddle wrote:
the patch can't come fast enough. you can't nerf skill  It's funny how all of these Zerg players have shot up in skill since December. And Terrans and Protosses became shit at the game overnight, thank god Zergs like Serral and Scarlett are putting garbage like Innovation and sOs where they belong thru raw skill. Must be Kespa disband or training in korea. That's just Scarlett. But yeah surely this patch made Serral since before he was trash (just ask neeb) and barely winning against anyone, and a lot of the wins haven't been against other zergs.
Only Scarlett is a patchzerg?
But premise is flawed since 4.0 was undeniably the best for Zerg. Just because specific Zergs aren't trash before the patch doesn't mean the patch had no effect.
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On March 17 2018 14:58 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2018 14:54 D-light wrote:On March 17 2018 14:40 Morbidius wrote:On March 17 2018 14:29 Boggyb wrote:On March 17 2018 14:27 Nerchio wrote:On March 17 2018 14:26 youngjiddle wrote:
the patch can't come fast enough. you can't nerf skill It's funny how all of these Zerg players have shot up in skill since December. And Terrans and Protosses became shit at the game overnight, thank god Zergs like Serral and Scarlett are putting garbage like Innovation and sOs where they belong thru raw skill. Must be Kespa disband or training in korea. That's just Scarlett. But yeah surely this patch made Serral since before he was trash (just ask neeb) and barely winning against anyone, and a lot of the wins haven't been against other zergs. Only Scarlett is a patchzerg? But premise is flawed since 4.0 was undeniably the best for Zerg. Just because specific Zergs aren't trash before the patch doesn't mean the patch had no effect.
We need Mizenhauer to tell us.
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On March 17 2018 14:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2018 14:53 Charoisaur wrote:On March 17 2018 14:49 Solar424 wrote:On March 17 2018 14:45 Charoisaur wrote:On March 17 2018 14:43 Solar424 wrote:On March 17 2018 14:38 Charoisaur wrote:On March 17 2018 14:35 Solar424 wrote:On March 17 2018 14:29 Boggyb wrote:On March 17 2018 14:27 Nerchio wrote:On March 17 2018 14:26 youngjiddle wrote:
the patch can't come fast enough. you can't nerf skill It's funny how all of these Zerg players have shot up in skill since December. Serral was a top 3 foreign Zerg before the patch. And? Not saying he's a patchzerg but there's a huge difference between top 3 foreign Zerg and being the undisputed best foreigner. The best foreigner has pretty much always been a Zerg, so it's not too much of a leap. When was the last time the best foreigner was a Zerg before Serral. Snute in HotS? Nerchio in 2016, and even in 2017 the top 5 were 4 Zergs with Neeb at the top. I don't think Nerchio was ever the best foreigner, either Showtime or Neeb were always ahead of him. I think he was the best foreigner in April-May 2016 in between Snute and Showtime. Also mid-2012 I think he was the best at some point in between Stephano's reign?
Winning a tounament doesnt make you the best for 3 months.
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Serral played just way better today than Neeb, deserved victory. I enjoy the Protoss salt 
btw Neeb was not the best foreigner in 2016.
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Meanwhile Elazer just wins the game.
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On March 17 2018 15:00 Morbidius wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2018 14:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On March 17 2018 14:53 Charoisaur wrote:On March 17 2018 14:49 Solar424 wrote:On March 17 2018 14:45 Charoisaur wrote:On March 17 2018 14:43 Solar424 wrote:On March 17 2018 14:38 Charoisaur wrote:On March 17 2018 14:35 Solar424 wrote:On March 17 2018 14:29 Boggyb wrote:On March 17 2018 14:27 Nerchio wrote:[quote] you can't nerf skill It's funny how all of these Zerg players have shot up in skill since December. Serral was a top 3 foreign Zerg before the patch. And? Not saying he's a patchzerg but there's a huge difference between top 3 foreign Zerg and being the undisputed best foreigner. The best foreigner has pretty much always been a Zerg, so it's not too much of a leap. When was the last time the best foreigner was a Zerg before Serral. Snute in HotS? Nerchio in 2016, and even in 2017 the top 5 were 4 Zergs with Neeb at the top. I don't think Nerchio was ever the best foreigner, either Showtime or Neeb were always ahead of him. I think he was the best foreigner in April-May 2016 in between Snute and Showtime. Also mid-2012 I think he was the best at some point in between Stephano's reign? Winning a tounament doesnt make you the best for 3 months.
Nerchio got top 4 in 4 out of 5 tournaments in the first half of of 2016, I'm pretty sure that makes him the best foreigner in that time span.
Also, I forgot how terrible the WCS format was for 2016, that was probably the low point for SC2: 2 GSL's a year, matchfixing, end of Proleague, and 3 WCS championships. The only positive things I can remember from that year are Neeb's Kespa Cup run and Byun's return from the grave to win GSL and Blizzcon.
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On March 17 2018 15:00 MrWayne wrote:Serral played just way better today than Neeb, deserved victory. I enjoy the Protoss salt btw Neeb was not the best foreigner in 2016.
He had the most WCS points
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On March 17 2018 14:58 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2018 14:54 D-light wrote:On March 17 2018 14:40 Morbidius wrote:On March 17 2018 14:29 Boggyb wrote:On March 17 2018 14:27 Nerchio wrote:On March 17 2018 14:26 youngjiddle wrote:
the patch can't come fast enough. you can't nerf skill It's funny how all of these Zerg players have shot up in skill since December. And Terrans and Protosses became shit at the game overnight, thank god Zergs like Serral and Scarlett are putting garbage like Innovation and sOs where they belong thru raw skill. Must be Kespa disband or training in korea. That's just Scarlett. But yeah surely this patch made Serral since before he was trash (just ask neeb) and barely winning against anyone, and a lot of the wins haven't been against other zergs. Only Scarlett is a patchzerg? But premise is flawed since 4.0 was undeniably the best for Zerg. Just because specific Zergs aren't trash before the patch doesn't mean the patch had no effect.
Not sure. The examples you gave were all Scarlett.
It's good for him also sure, just feels like there's some hyperbole.
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On March 17 2018 15:04 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Meanwhile Elazer just wins the game.
There's games?
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Elazer did what Serral couldn't.
New best foreigner?
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On March 17 2018 15:08 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2018 15:04 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Meanwhile Elazer just wins the game. There's games?
They are kind of a sideshow, but they might come in useful when determining who was the best foreigner of March-April 2018 six months down the line.
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On March 17 2018 15:07 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2018 15:00 MrWayne wrote:Serral played just way better today than Neeb, deserved victory. I enjoy the Protoss salt btw Neeb was not the best foreigner in 2016. He had the most WCS points
He had consistent results throughout the year and won Kespa Cup which got him a ton of points, but he was never the consensus #1.
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Is someone watching Classic vs Elazer or are we too busy pointing out patchzergs? I just realized its already going on and at 1-1.
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On March 17 2018 15:09 Charoisaur wrote:
Elazer did what Serral couldn't.
New best foreigner?
That was before Classic started losing though. He's officially washed up now  .
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On March 17 2018 14:53 argonautdice wrote:
how come sometimes when someone whines about balance they get banned while other times nothing happens?
Only get banned when you complain about other races then Zerg.
But yeah the balance whine here is a joke.
Lots of Protoss and Terran are doing fine, Neeb and Inno are just out of form
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On March 17 2018 15:09 Charoisaur wrote:
Elazer did what Serral couldn't.
New best foreigner?
Yesterday it was Serral, 3-0'ing Elazer.
Now comes the time of Elazer. Move over, Joona.
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Damn, here I was thinking I'd still get to watch Serral vs Neeb now, but apparently the OP times were wrong and 3-0's don't help. Well, like I thought, he 3-0'ed Neeb without shitty PC issues.
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On March 17 2018 15:12 Hephaistas89 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2018 14:53 argonautdice wrote:
how come sometimes when someone whines about balance they get banned while other times nothing happens? Only get banned when you complain about other races then Zerg. But yeah the balance whine here is a joke. Lots of Protoss and Terran are doing fine, Neeb and Inno are just out of form
By lots of terrans doing fine you mean Maru, MoustacheTerran, PirateTerran, and TerranSucksBallsWithoutMe right?
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Elazer's focusing way too hard on the hydra/lurker stage. Puts him on a clock.
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EPT
