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GreatTrash
Profile Joined December 2017
24 Posts
March 17 2018 06:38 GMT
#261
On March 17 2018 15:29 pvsnp wrote:


Whereas Maru is literally the only Terran in the playoffs multiple tournaments in a row.



Perhaps you could name these tournaments?
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16057 Posts
March 17 2018 06:39 GMT
#262
On March 17 2018 15:37 MrWayne wrote:
turns out PvZ is sill winnable. Looks like Neeb just have to git gud.

Just play like Classic


...Unless your opponent is Rogue
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Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
March 17 2018 06:39 GMT
#263
On March 17 2018 15:36 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 15:33 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 15:29 pvsnp wrote:
Maru is literally solo carrying Terran atm

Yknow the guy who is arguably most famous for his amazing blink-era performance. The guy renowned for doing well when Terran isn't.

He got nicknamed the Fourth Race for a reason.

If Maru is carrying Terran, than Rogue is carrying Zerg, at least in Korea. The last time a Zerg won a tournament with more than 2 Koreans in it that wasn't Rogue was when Dark won the Cross Finals in September 2016.


I mean Rogue ZvZed out soO at Blizzcon. So the highly specific tournament criteria you're cherrypicking don't sound that great.

I'm not sure how filtering out the tournaments that aren't at the highest skill level is cherry picking. soO basically got a free road to the finals, beating an out-of-form GuMiho and rolling over Special, while Rogue had to beat TY.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 06:47:42
March 17 2018 06:40 GMT
#264
On March 17 2018 15:38 GreatTrash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 15:29 pvsnp wrote:


Whereas Maru is literally the only Terran in the playoffs multiple tournaments in a row.



Perhaps you could name these tournaments?

GSL ring a bell? I hear it's kind of a big deal.

Aside from that we had Katowice (apparently TY so it was 2/12 instead of 1/8) and of course WESG.

We expect Zerg to do disproportionately well in the foreign scene. It's when they do disproportionately well everywhere that it becomes a balance issue.
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Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 06:44:06
March 17 2018 06:41 GMT
#265
On March 17 2018 15:37 FrkFrJss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 15:33 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 15:29 pvsnp wrote:
Maru is literally solo carrying Terran atm

Yknow the guy who is arguably most famous for his amazing blink-era performance. The guy renowned for doing well when Terran isn't.

He got nicknamed the Fourth Race for a reason.

If Maru is carrying Terran, than Rogue is carrying Zerg, at least in Korea. The last time a Zerg won a tournament with more than 2 Koreans in it that wasn't Rogue was when Dark won the Cross Finals in September 2016.

I do like how this specific wording conveniently leaves out Scarlett's victory.

IEM was basically a WCS event, let's be honest. And if a foreign Zerg is doing a better job of beating Koreans than Korean Zergs are, than the race is weak in Korea.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16057 Posts
March 17 2018 06:43 GMT
#266
On March 17 2018 15:39 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 15:36 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 17 2018 15:33 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 15:29 pvsnp wrote:
Maru is literally solo carrying Terran atm

Yknow the guy who is arguably most famous for his amazing blink-era performance. The guy renowned for doing well when Terran isn't.

He got nicknamed the Fourth Race for a reason.

If Maru is carrying Terran, than Rogue is carrying Zerg, at least in Korea. The last time a Zerg won a tournament with more than 2 Koreans in it that wasn't Rogue was when Dark won the Cross Finals in September 2016.


I mean Rogue ZvZed out soO at Blizzcon. So the highly specific tournament criteria you're cherrypicking don't sound that great.

I'm not sure how filtering out the tournaments that aren't at the highest skill level is cherry picking. soO basically got a free road to the finals, beating an out-of-form GuMiho and rolling over Special, while Rogue had to beat TY.

If you include qualifiers which are a part of a tournament Pyeongchang had more than 2 koreans.
But I guess it doesn't count because it doesn't fit your narrative
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 17 2018 06:45 GMT
#267
Make whatever excuses you want, but Rogue, Serral, Scarlett, Rogue is a hell of a lot better than.......absolutely nobody for Protoss and Terran both.
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Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
March 17 2018 06:45 GMT
#268
On March 17 2018 15:41 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 15:37 FrkFrJss wrote:
On March 17 2018 15:33 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 15:29 pvsnp wrote:
Maru is literally solo carrying Terran atm

Yknow the guy who is arguably most famous for his amazing blink-era performance. The guy renowned for doing well when Terran isn't.

He got nicknamed the Fourth Race for a reason.

If Maru is carrying Terran, than Rogue is carrying Zerg, at least in Korea. The last time a Zerg won a tournament with more than 2 Koreans in it that wasn't Rogue was when Dark won the Cross Finals in September 2016.

I do like how this specific wording conveniently leaves out Scarlett's victory.

IEM was basically a WCS event, let's be honest.

When a zerg wins it its a tier 2 event with lots of foreigners(IEM, Blizzcon), when T or P wins... I don't know what it is, because they havem't won shit in 6 months.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 17 2018 06:48 GMT
#269
Scarlett's gonna do it!
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 06:50:32
March 17 2018 06:50 GMT
#270
Dark starting out strong.

This ain't even a 13/12 I think--it's faster.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
March 17 2018 06:52 GMT
#271
On March 17 2018 15:43 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 15:39 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 15:36 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 17 2018 15:33 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 15:29 pvsnp wrote:
Maru is literally solo carrying Terran atm

Yknow the guy who is arguably most famous for his amazing blink-era performance. The guy renowned for doing well when Terran isn't.

He got nicknamed the Fourth Race for a reason.

If Maru is carrying Terran, than Rogue is carrying Zerg, at least in Korea. The last time a Zerg won a tournament with more than 2 Koreans in it that wasn't Rogue was when Dark won the Cross Finals in September 2016.


I mean Rogue ZvZed out soO at Blizzcon. So the highly specific tournament criteria you're cherrypicking don't sound that great.

I'm not sure how filtering out the tournaments that aren't at the highest skill level is cherry picking. soO basically got a free road to the finals, beating an out-of-form GuMiho and rolling over Special, while Rogue had to beat TY.

If you include qualifiers which are a part of a tournament Pyeongchang had more than 2 koreans.
But I guess it doesn't count because it doesn't fit your narrative

Since when have qualifiers that were held online a month and a half before the tournament been part of it?
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 17 2018 06:54 GMT
#272
Scarlett sure loves her mutas
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
March 17 2018 06:54 GMT
#273
On March 17 2018 15:50 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Dark starting out strong.

This ain't even a 13/12 I think--it's faster.

Correct, it was a 12/11, and rather than pooling the lings until speed finishes like he used to do with 13/12, he directly went to kill the hatch.
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
March 17 2018 06:55 GMT
#274
On March 17 2018 15:54 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Scarlett sure loves her mutas

ZvZ is the only matchup where they're actually useful, gotta use them while you can.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 17 2018 06:55 GMT
#275
On March 17 2018 15:54 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 15:50 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Dark starting out strong.

This ain't even a 13/12 I think--it's faster.

Correct, it was a 12/11, and rather than pooling the lings until speed finishes like he used to do with 13/12, he directly went to kill the hatch.


The main benefit is the faster baneling nest right? The zergling attack itself isn't that much stronger. And hmmm mutas against nydus.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 17 2018 06:56 GMT
#276
She'll hold
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Tyrhanius
Profile Joined April 2011
France947 Posts
March 17 2018 06:57 GMT
#277
On March 17 2018 15:45 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 15:41 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 15:37 FrkFrJss wrote:
On March 17 2018 15:33 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 15:29 pvsnp wrote:
Maru is literally solo carrying Terran atm

Yknow the guy who is arguably most famous for his amazing blink-era performance. The guy renowned for doing well when Terran isn't.

He got nicknamed the Fourth Race for a reason.

If Maru is carrying Terran, than Rogue is carrying Zerg, at least in Korea. The last time a Zerg won a tournament with more than 2 Koreans in it that wasn't Rogue was when Dark won the Cross Finals in September 2016.

I do like how this specific wording conveniently leaves out Scarlett's victory.

IEM was basically a WCS event, let's be honest.

When a zerg wins it its a tier 2 event with lots of foreigners(IEM, Blizzcon), when T or P wins... I don't know what it is, because they havem't won shit in 6 months.

That's Olimoleague, a full kor tournament :

OlimoLeague Week #109 won by herO 2018-01-09
OlimoLeague Week #110 won by Innovation 2018-01-15
OlimoLeague Week #111 won by herO 2018-01-23
Monthly Finals January won by herO 2018-01-30
OlimoLeague Week #112 won by GuMiho 2018-02-13
OlimoLeague Week #113 won by herO 2018-02-20
Monthly Finals January February won by Zest 2018-03-13
OlimoLeague Week #114 won by Zest 2018-03-06
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
March 17 2018 06:58 GMT
#278
Don't know how Scarlett will hold. Eventually, Dark will kill all the spines, all the while making Scarlett's army worse and worse by getting more roaches and queens and spores.
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
March 17 2018 06:58 GMT
#279
Spine wall vs Spore wall lol
Liquipedia"Expert"
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 17 2018 07:01 GMT
#280
like i thought, mutas scouted = gg, they are garbage if you know they come.
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