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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 07:05:57
March 17 2018 07:01 GMT
#281
Even in ZvZ, the answer is just MAEK MOAR QUEENS
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 07:02:32
March 17 2018 07:01 GMT
#282
On March 17 2018 15:57 Tyrhanius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 15:45 Morbidius wrote:
On March 17 2018 15:41 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 15:37 FrkFrJss wrote:
On March 17 2018 15:33 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 15:29 pvsnp wrote:
Maru is literally solo carrying Terran atm

Yknow the guy who is arguably most famous for his amazing blink-era performance. The guy renowned for doing well when Terran isn't.

He got nicknamed the Fourth Race for a reason.

If Maru is carrying Terran, than Rogue is carrying Zerg, at least in Korea. The last time a Zerg won a tournament with more than 2 Koreans in it that wasn't Rogue was when Dark won the Cross Finals in September 2016.

I do like how this specific wording conveniently leaves out Scarlett's victory.

IEM was basically a WCS event, let's be honest.

When a zerg wins it its a tier 2 event with lots of foreigners(IEM, Blizzcon), when T or P wins... I don't know what it is, because they havem't won shit in 6 months.

That's Olimoleague, a full kor tournament :

OlimoLeague Week #109 won by herO 2018-01-09
OlimoLeague Week #110 won by Innovation 2018-01-15
OlimoLeague Week #111 won by herO 2018-01-23
Monthly Finals January won by herO 2018-01-30
OlimoLeague Week #112 won by GuMiho 2018-02-13
OlimoLeague Week #113 won by herO 2018-02-20
Monthly Finals January February won by Zest 2018-03-13
OlimoLeague Week #114 won by Zest 2018-03-06


It's always puzzled me how so many top terrans and protosses regularly participate in Olimoleague, but top zerg participation has been lacking (Solar and Impact participate often. Rogue occasionally, but I think Dark or soO seldom if ever do?) .
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 07:03:03
March 17 2018 07:02 GMT
#283
On March 17 2018 16:01 HolydaKing wrote:
like i thought, mutas scouted = gg, they are garbage if you know they come.

Turns out you're right.

God this unit is garbage in every matchup
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
March 17 2018 07:02 GMT
#284
Turns out Zergs do have recall
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16101 Posts
March 17 2018 07:02 GMT
#285
God just leave
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 17 2018 07:02 GMT
#286
Hmm, think she could've ferried a few lings out sooner
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13326 Posts
March 17 2018 07:03 GMT
#287
On March 17 2018 16:01 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 15:57 Tyrhanius wrote:
On March 17 2018 15:45 Morbidius wrote:
On March 17 2018 15:41 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 15:37 FrkFrJss wrote:
On March 17 2018 15:33 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 15:29 pvsnp wrote:
Maru is literally solo carrying Terran atm

Yknow the guy who is arguably most famous for his amazing blink-era performance. The guy renowned for doing well when Terran isn't.

He got nicknamed the Fourth Race for a reason.

If Maru is carrying Terran, than Rogue is carrying Zerg, at least in Korea. The last time a Zerg won a tournament with more than 2 Koreans in it that wasn't Rogue was when Dark won the Cross Finals in September 2016.

I do like how this specific wording conveniently leaves out Scarlett's victory.

IEM was basically a WCS event, let's be honest.

When a zerg wins it its a tier 2 event with lots of foreigners(IEM, Blizzcon), when T or P wins... I don't know what it is, because they havem't won shit in 6 months.

That's Olimoleague, a full kor tournament :

OlimoLeague Week #109 won by herO 2018-01-09
OlimoLeague Week #110 won by Innovation 2018-01-15
OlimoLeague Week #111 won by herO 2018-01-23
Monthly Finals January won by herO 2018-01-30
OlimoLeague Week #112 won by GuMiho 2018-02-13
OlimoLeague Week #113 won by herO 2018-02-20
Monthly Finals January February won by Zest 2018-03-13
OlimoLeague Week #114 won by Zest 2018-03-06


It's always puzzled me how so many top terrans and protosses regularly participate in Olimoleague, but top zerg participation has been lacking (Solar and Impact participate often. Rogue occasionally, but I don't think Dark or soO often do?) .

Ex-SKT players rarely play online tournaments, Impact being an exception. INno participates occasionally like Rogue, but unfortunately with Dark and soO never playing online basically, we lose two top zergs in olimoleagues
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 07:04:00
March 17 2018 07:03 GMT
#288
Close game. Gap is closed.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
March 17 2018 07:03 GMT
#289
On March 17 2018 16:01 HolydaKing wrote:
like i thought, mutas scouted = gg, they are garbage if you know they come.

They're garbage if you build any sort of anti-air. I think they only unit with an anti-air attack that loses a fight to Mutas are Sentries, and even that might not be guaranteed with Guardian Shield.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16101 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 07:06:47
March 17 2018 07:05 GMT
#290
On March 17 2018 16:03 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 16:01 HolydaKing wrote:
like i thought, mutas scouted = gg, they are garbage if you know they come.

They're garbage if you build any sort of anti-air. I think they only unit with an anti-air attack that loses a fight to Mutas are Sentries, and even that might not be guaranteed with Guardian Shield.

Cyclones

Also mutas aren't supposed to win straight up fights
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Tyrhanius
Profile Joined April 2011
France947 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 07:06:11
March 17 2018 07:05 GMT
#291
On March 17 2018 16:01 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 15:57 Tyrhanius wrote:
On March 17 2018 15:45 Morbidius wrote:
On March 17 2018 15:41 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 15:37 FrkFrJss wrote:
On March 17 2018 15:33 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 15:29 pvsnp wrote:
Maru is literally solo carrying Terran atm

Yknow the guy who is arguably most famous for his amazing blink-era performance. The guy renowned for doing well when Terran isn't.

He got nicknamed the Fourth Race for a reason.

If Maru is carrying Terran, than Rogue is carrying Zerg, at least in Korea. The last time a Zerg won a tournament with more than 2 Koreans in it that wasn't Rogue was when Dark won the Cross Finals in September 2016.

I do like how this specific wording conveniently leaves out Scarlett's victory.

IEM was basically a WCS event, let's be honest.

When a zerg wins it its a tier 2 event with lots of foreigners(IEM, Blizzcon), when T or P wins... I don't know what it is, because they havem't won shit in 6 months.

That's Olimoleague, a full kor tournament :

OlimoLeague Week #109 won by herO 2018-01-09
OlimoLeague Week #110 won by Innovation 2018-01-15
OlimoLeague Week #111 won by herO 2018-01-23
Monthly Finals January won by herO 2018-01-30
OlimoLeague Week #112 won by GuMiho 2018-02-13
OlimoLeague Week #113 won by herO 2018-02-20
Monthly Finals January February won by Zest 2018-03-13
OlimoLeague Week #114 won by Zest 2018-03-06


It's always puzzled me how so many top terrans and protosses regularly participate in Olimoleague, but top zerg participation has been lacking (Solar and Impact participate often. Rogue occasionally, but I think Dark or soO seldom if ever do?) .

Dunno, the cash prize is also really small (100$ for the winnner), while it's harder than a WCS event ^^
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 17 2018 07:06 GMT
#292
On March 17 2018 16:05 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 16:03 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 16:01 HolydaKing wrote:
like i thought, mutas scouted = gg, they are garbage if you know they come.

They're garbage if you build any sort of anti-air. I think they only unit with an anti-air attack that loses a fight to Mutas are Sentries, and even that might not be guaranteed with Guardian Shield.

Cyclones

Cyclones vs Mutas has never, ever happened
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 17 2018 07:06 GMT
#293
On March 17 2018 16:05 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 16:03 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 16:01 HolydaKing wrote:
like i thought, mutas scouted = gg, they are garbage if you know they come.

They're garbage if you build any sort of anti-air. I think they only unit with an anti-air attack that loses a fight to Mutas are Sentries, and even that might not be guaranteed with Guardian Shield.

Cyclones


What happens if rapid fire launchers is researched?
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 17 2018 07:07 GMT
#294
On March 17 2018 16:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 16:05 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 17 2018 16:03 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 16:01 HolydaKing wrote:
like i thought, mutas scouted = gg, they are garbage if you know they come.

They're garbage if you build any sort of anti-air. I think they only unit with an anti-air attack that loses a fight to Mutas are Sentries, and even that might not be guaranteed with Guardian Shield.

Cyclones

Cyclones vs Mutas has never, ever happened

Ptak beat Byun last year in Nationwars
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Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
March 17 2018 07:08 GMT
#295
So Dark is going to win this series off of 3 build order wins, great.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16101 Posts
March 17 2018 07:08 GMT
#296
On March 17 2018 16:06 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 16:05 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 17 2018 16:03 Solar424 wrote:
On March 17 2018 16:01 HolydaKing wrote:
like i thought, mutas scouted = gg, they are garbage if you know they come.

They're garbage if you build any sort of anti-air. I think they only unit with an anti-air attack that loses a fight to Mutas are Sentries, and even that might not be guaranteed with Guardian Shield.

Cyclones


What happens if rapid fire launchers is researched?

With good kiting maybe cyclones win but that requires enough space to kite.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 17 2018 07:08 GMT
#297
Well, this is just what Scarlett vs Korean Zergs is now I guess
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 17 2018 07:08 GMT
#298
Any bets on if Dark is going to 13/12 or 12 pool or 12/11 next game?
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 07:09:27
March 17 2018 07:09 GMT
#299
Lmao Dark 2-0 already, he really wants to just play Classic
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TL+ Member
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
March 17 2018 07:09 GMT
#300
On March 17 2018 16:08 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Well, this is just what Scarlett vs Korean Zergs is now I guess

Not enough hitting herself with her own biles.
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