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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
March 17 2018 05:25 GMT
#181
Not sure why people are jacking off over Serral's EPM.
I've played against master 3 players who have more EPM than most pros, that statistic is absolutely meaningless.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
690 Posts
March 17 2018 05:26 GMT
#182
On March 17 2018 14:12 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 14:10 yubo56 wrote:
Haha guess the best analogy would be immortals? A really strong unit that you don't need with your core high-cost army. Guess the protoss equivalent of Serral's playstyle would be to use a lot more immortals going well into the lategame, both with executing runbys and defending runbys

Of course, you'd also need serral's mechanics...


Immortal run-bys would be a rather terrible idea.


I think so too! I'm not sure what the correct answer is though. By including a lurker or two w/ your roach runbys, you suddenly make zealot + cannon defenses extremely cost inefficient. I don't feel like Protoss has an equivalent unit off the top of my head... Serral's innovation in ZvP is kinda similar to the trend where people started including ultras in their runbys.

Idk, I guess protoss really doesn't have quite the same sort of unit huh ._.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33506 Posts
March 17 2018 05:26 GMT
#183
Great series from Serral, good effort from Neeb, EVERYONE WINS
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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
March 17 2018 05:26 GMT
#184
Thats it?
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
March 17 2018 05:26 GMT
#185
Gap has closed
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franzji
Profile Joined September 2013
United States583 Posts
March 17 2018 05:26 GMT
#186
the patch can't come fast enough.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 17 2018 05:27 GMT
#187
Oh well, Maru vs Serral is more competitive
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Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
March 17 2018 05:27 GMT
#188
On March 17 2018 14:26 youngjiddle wrote:
the patch can't come fast enough.

you can't nerf skill
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-17 05:28:01
March 17 2018 05:27 GMT
#189
Maru vs Serral should be good, as predicted
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Torvaltz
Profile Joined August 2012
United States188 Posts
March 17 2018 05:27 GMT
#190
Gotta have a drop game before the patch I guess
melee is sick
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
March 17 2018 05:29 GMT
#191
Serral was behind in first 2 matches and came back. I think Neeb was way too passive
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
March 17 2018 05:29 GMT
#192
On March 17 2018 14:27 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 14:26 youngjiddle wrote:
the patch can't come fast enough.

you can't nerf skill

It's funny how all of these Zerg players have shot up in skill since December.
Azhrak
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland1198 Posts
March 17 2018 05:30 GMT
#193
Serral too good for foreigners. Let's see how Maru fairs. Can't wait.
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D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
March 17 2018 05:31 GMT
#194
Just hoping that Serral makes it competitive.
why even
neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
March 17 2018 05:32 GMT
#195
I hope Maru pulls a Classic and smashes Serral to bits. I also hope Maru doesn't pull a Classic and instead goes on to win the tournament.
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GrandTerran
Profile Blog Joined January 2018
71 Posts
March 17 2018 05:33 GMT
#196
Is the final today?
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
March 17 2018 05:34 GMT
#197
Will Elazer Nydus Classic 3 times in a row? Let's see
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 17 2018 05:34 GMT
#198
On March 17 2018 14:33 GrandTerran wrote:
Is the final today?


No, but everything else is.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
March 17 2018 05:35 GMT
#199
On March 17 2018 14:29 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 14:27 Nerchio wrote:
On March 17 2018 14:26 youngjiddle wrote:
the patch can't come fast enough.

you can't nerf skill

It's funny how all of these Zerg players have shot up in skill since December.

Serral was a top 3 foreign Zerg before the patch.
GrandTerran
Profile Blog Joined January 2018
71 Posts
March 17 2018 05:38 GMT
#200
On March 17 2018 14:34 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 14:33 GrandTerran wrote:
Is the final today?


No, but everything else is.


Thanks! Yeah I got confused when I heard the semis are on today.
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