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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-02 12:47:17
March 02 2018 12:47 GMT
#161
On March 02 2018 21:45 riotjune wrote:
lets go merica


Today we all bleed red white and blue.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
March 02 2018 12:47 GMT
#162
Lets see how Neeb does against rogue now that carriers are nerfed and infestor terrans viable.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 02 2018 12:47 GMT
#163
Wow, Rogue looks terrible, he needs some time off or something, looks tired and just before a collapse.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
March 02 2018 12:47 GMT
#164
On March 02 2018 21:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2018 21:42 Myrddrael wrote:
On March 02 2018 21:40 D-light wrote:
On March 02 2018 21:39 Myrddrael wrote:
On March 02 2018 21:36 Weavel wrote:
On March 02 2018 21:28 MockHamill wrote:
I think Serral will win the whole tournament. I see no Korean that is better than him, a few are close to his level maybe.
This is the feeling I get too. Koreans get all the hype, but Serral wins the tournament.


Really? You don't think TY, Maru or Classic are better? There's cheering for your favourite player then there's saying pure dumb things.

Aligulac and 10k mmr don't lie


Yeah, ladder performance is the only factor in how well you'll do at an international event. That's why he won PyeongChang yeah?

No on fire Scarlett to stop him this time. He's got it in the bag


Indeed. Going through TY, Solar, Dark, Classic and sOs will be a mere formality. Tournament basically over already.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 02 2018 12:47 GMT
#165
On March 02 2018 21:41 Zaros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2018 21:39 Olli wrote:
On March 02 2018 21:33 Zaros wrote:
On March 02 2018 21:33 sneakyfox wrote:
Anyone watching Zest v Nerchio? How are the games?


Zest got like 11 drones with oracles then went all in with archon chargelot and crushed him 1-0 for Zest so far.


Just a small thing, that was not all in, it was a regular archon drop followup but with 6 gates instead of 4. Still had a third and was making probes.


He stopped at 45 probe did he not? Nerchio had like 60

Its not an allin but a very committed pressure build. Impossible to defend if you dont scout it.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
March 02 2018 12:47 GMT
#166
Where is this 10k MMR thing coming from? Nobody has ever had close to 10k MMR in SCII. Serral is at 7.2.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 02 2018 12:48 GMT
#167
On March 02 2018 21:47 Olli wrote:
Where is this 10k MMR thing coming from? Nobody has ever had close to 10k MMR in SCII. Serral is at 7.2.

Our discord.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
March 02 2018 12:48 GMT
#168
On March 02 2018 21:47 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2018 21:41 Zaros wrote:
On March 02 2018 21:39 Olli wrote:
On March 02 2018 21:33 Zaros wrote:
On March 02 2018 21:33 sneakyfox wrote:
Anyone watching Zest v Nerchio? How are the games?


Zest got like 11 drones with oracles then went all in with archon chargelot and crushed him 1-0 for Zest so far.


Just a small thing, that was not all in, it was a regular archon drop followup but with 6 gates instead of 4. Still had a third and was making probes.


He stopped at 45 probe did he not? Nerchio had like 60

Its not an allin but a very committed pressure build. Impossible to defend if you dont scout it.


Seems like semantics to me
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-02 12:49:39
March 02 2018 12:48 GMT
#169
On March 02 2018 21:47 Olli wrote:
Where is this 10k MMR thing coming from? Nobody has ever had close to 10k MMR in SCII. Serral is at 7.2.

It's a joke because people kept hyping Serral's 7k MMR despite having no results.
(obviously this started way before his WCS win)
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 02 2018 12:49 GMT
#170
On March 02 2018 21:47 Olli wrote:
Where is this 10k MMR thing coming from? Nobody has ever had close to 10k MMR in SCII. Serral is at 7.2.

But he plays like 10k.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
March 02 2018 12:49 GMT
#171
On March 02 2018 21:48 Zaros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2018 21:47 Ej_ wrote:
On March 02 2018 21:41 Zaros wrote:
On March 02 2018 21:39 Olli wrote:
On March 02 2018 21:33 Zaros wrote:
On March 02 2018 21:33 sneakyfox wrote:
Anyone watching Zest v Nerchio? How are the games?


Zest got like 11 drones with oracles then went all in with archon chargelot and crushed him 1-0 for Zest so far.


Just a small thing, that was not all in, it was a regular archon drop followup but with 6 gates instead of 4. Still had a third and was making probes.


He stopped at 45 probe did he not? Nerchio had like 60

Its not an allin but a very committed pressure build. Impossible to defend if you dont scout it.


Seems like semantics to me


There's a pretty real difference there. Zest can transition if this fails, albeit behind. An all-in loses you the game.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
March 02 2018 12:50 GMT
#172
On March 02 2018 21:49 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2018 21:48 Zaros wrote:
On March 02 2018 21:47 Ej_ wrote:
On March 02 2018 21:41 Zaros wrote:
On March 02 2018 21:39 Olli wrote:
On March 02 2018 21:33 Zaros wrote:
On March 02 2018 21:33 sneakyfox wrote:
Anyone watching Zest v Nerchio? How are the games?


Zest got like 11 drones with oracles then went all in with archon chargelot and crushed him 1-0 for Zest so far.


Just a small thing, that was not all in, it was a regular archon drop followup but with 6 gates instead of 4. Still had a third and was making probes.


He stopped at 45 probe did he not? Nerchio had like 60

Its not an allin but a very committed pressure build. Impossible to defend if you dont scout it.


Seems like semantics to me


There's a pretty real difference there. Zest can transition if this fails, albeit behind. An all-in loses you the game.


I guess but you can transition from a lot of all ins if you do enough damage
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
March 02 2018 12:50 GMT
#173
Did you guys seriously think that Zest was gonna lose to Nerchio? :D Please, Nerchio always was and always will be a mediocre player, he is nowhere near close to the level of Serral, or even Impact.
Nerchio will be last in this group, Zest will battle with Neeb for 2nd
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
March 02 2018 12:52 GMT
#174
On March 02 2018 21:50 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Did you guys seriously think that Zest was gonna lose to Nerchio? :D Please, Nerchio always was and always will be a mediocre player, he is nowhere near close to the level of Serral, or even Impact.
Nerchio will be last in this group, Zest will battle with Neeb for 2nd


after being 2-0'ed by Impact I feared the worst
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
March 02 2018 12:52 GMT
#175
On March 02 2018 21:50 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Did you guys seriously think that Zest was gonna lose to Nerchio? :D Please, Nerchio always was and always will be a mediocre player, he is nowhere near close to the level of Serral, or even Impact.
Nerchio will be last in this group, Zest will battle with Neeb for 2nd


He beat Serral to qualify for this
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
March 02 2018 12:53 GMT
#176
Yeah Rogue looks in bad shape, he looks tired/ill too.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
March 02 2018 12:54 GMT
#177
On March 02 2018 21:52 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2018 21:50 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Did you guys seriously think that Zest was gonna lose to Nerchio? :D Please, Nerchio always was and always will be a mediocre player, he is nowhere near close to the level of Serral, or even Impact.
Nerchio will be last in this group, Zest will battle with Neeb for 2nd


He beat Serral to qualify for this


lol
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
March 02 2018 12:54 GMT
#178
On March 02 2018 21:52 Zaros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2018 21:50 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Did you guys seriously think that Zest was gonna lose to Nerchio? :D Please, Nerchio always was and always will be a mediocre player, he is nowhere near close to the level of Serral, or even Impact.
Nerchio will be last in this group, Zest will battle with Neeb for 2nd


after being 2-0'ed by Impact I feared the worst



Impact is pretty good, Rogue looks abysmal so far so maybe Impact will join the battle for promotion as well if he does better in the other ZvZs
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-02 12:55:29
March 02 2018 12:55 GMT
#179
Also note that Impact has Zest's number, he's beaten him constantly in LotV even when Zest was much better than he is now
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
March 02 2018 12:56 GMT
#180
On March 02 2018 21:52 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2018 21:50 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Did you guys seriously think that Zest was gonna lose to Nerchio? :D Please, Nerchio always was and always will be a mediocre player, he is nowhere near close to the level of Serral, or even Impact.
Nerchio will be last in this group, Zest will battle with Neeb for 2nd


He beat Serral to qualify for this


What are you trying to say with this? Nerchio beat Maru once in Shoutcraft if I remember correctly. Does that mean something when comparing the quality of those 2 players?... Nope ...
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
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