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seemsgood
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Also phoenix should not be able to lift disruptors because this unit ruined one of the best match up to watch. | ||
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Elentos
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Ej_
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On September 11 2017 18:58 Elentos wrote: Time for Classic to put on his patented PvZ face ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/qkZX0Xz.png) | ||
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Argonauta
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On September 11 2017 19:07 yht9657 wrote: What exactly happened to Dark's face? chicken pox | ||
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On September 11 2017 19:07 yht9657 wrote: What exactly happened to Dark's face? Maybe some kind of treatment for chickenpox. | ||
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Ej_
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Heart = Dark Anger = "nice job blizzard, terran still unplayable" | ||
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Damn that's too bad | ||
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Google'd and regret . | ||
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yht9657
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The cunning Protoss vs the brute Zerg force | ||
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On September 11 2017 19:20 Elentos wrote: Ej is this you MANzerg is the best way to play ZvP. | ||
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On September 11 2017 19:19 Elentos wrote: He lost 3 oracles there for no reason what And now the rest. | ||
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On September 11 2017 19:22 Phredxor wrote: Classic on tilt already. Did he even get through the lobby without tilting? | ||
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On September 11 2017 19:24 Elentos wrote: The storm cancel meta One day Dear and Classic will look like geniuses. | ||
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Elentos
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On September 11 2017 19:25 Ej_ wrote: I'm sad Dark is in Nerchio's group at Blizzcon, because I wanted him to wipe the floor with Neeb. Nerchio and Neeb are in the same group. But Dark can still get into a different one. | ||
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Ej_
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On September 11 2017 19:27 Elentos wrote: Nerchio and Neeb are in the same group. But Dark can still get into a different one. Damn son. | ||
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ghostmaster93
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On September 11 2017 19:25 Ej_ wrote: I'm sad Dark is in Nerchio's group at Blizzcon, because I wanted him to wipe the floor with Neeb. How Dark in Nerchio groups? Any links? | ||
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ghostmaster93
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Phredxor
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Ej_
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On September 11 2017 19:30 Phredxor wrote: Say it Wolf. Baneling acid can't melt neosteel frame. | ||
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Elentos
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EatingBomber
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On September 11 2017 19:37 EatingBomber wrote: Assuming protoss opens mass oracles like this is any way for zerg to stop the progression to carriers? hide a spire and fuck them up | ||
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Phredxor
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On September 11 2017 19:37 EatingBomber wrote: Assuming protoss opens mass oracles like this is any way for zerg to stop the progression to carriers? The answer is probably Roaches. | ||
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On September 11 2017 19:39 Elentos wrote: So many infestors infestor drone is the best composition | ||
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On September 11 2017 19:48 Ej_ wrote: sick zergling block to save hatch At least it was for a moment. | ||
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seemsgood
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On September 11 2017 19:51 Musicus wrote: yay, I came just in time to whine about recall! GIVE THIS RACE GODDAMN EMP! | ||
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On September 11 2017 19:56 Musicus wrote: wow getting the HTs was big That's only because Classic shift-clicked them to feedback all infestors and vipers. | ||
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ghostmaster93
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yht9657
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On September 11 2017 19:56 AzAlexZ wrote: Classic's harassment has been so good this game However he just cant win a straight-up fight | ||
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ghostmaster93
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On September 11 2017 20:01 seemsgood wrote: Can't blame dark about zealot harrassment tbh.His broodlords take 4ever to move. Why dont he make some zergling? | ||
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Air units are killing sc2 :x | ||
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Because zealots rekt zerglings. | ||
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Zzzapper
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Not really late game. Zerglings don't get 2 shot anymore at 3/3 and they have adrenal so they're actually a lot better vs. zealots than early game. It only becomes problematic if protoss warps in something crazy like 15 zealots but then he's dumped 30 supply into harassment | ||
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Argonauta
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On September 11 2017 20:08 Zzzapper wrote: Not really late game. Zerglings don't get 2 shot anymore at 3/3 and they have adrenal so they're actually a lot better vs. zealots than early game. It only becomes problematic if protoss warps in something crazy like 15 zealots but then he's dumped 30 supply into harassment And that usually happens when Zerg is maxed out and doesn't have the correct response to that. Zealot harass in lategame is a powerful tool and classic did it well, not over committing or doing it too many times but always when the main army gravitates towards the other side of the map and Dark moves towards it as response. | ||
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Zzzapper
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On September 11 2017 20:11 Argonauta wrote: And that usually happens when Zerg is maxed out and doesn't have the correct response to that. Zealot harass in lategame is a powerful tool and classic did it well, not over committing or doing it too many times but always when the main army gravitates towards the other side of the map and Dark moves towards it as response. Absolutely but zerg can keep supply free just like toss can, there's no reason not to have an ultra or 2 and some lings to help out the spines. If protoss doesn't harass, you can just harass him instead | ||
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On September 11 2017 20:14 seemsgood wrote: You also need a fuck ton of zerglings to hold zealot harrass anyway while protoss attacking other place with golden fleet.The power of golden fleet is protosse doesn't need to invest all supply for it in order to beat max army of other race. Cracklings are cost efficient vs every Protoss thing that doesn't cost gas. | ||
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Elentos
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On September 11 2017 20:15 Ej_ wrote: Cracklings are cost efficient vs every Protoss thing that doesn't cost gas. So zealots, probes and cannons | ||
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Zzzapper
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On September 11 2017 20:15 Ej_ wrote: Cracklings are cost efficient vs every Protoss thing that doesn't cost gas. A big enough ball of zealots becomes cost efficient but if they're in a ball they're not killing your base anyway | ||
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Dark templars also because how in the name of fuck can they cost so little gas?! | ||
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seemsgood
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On September 11 2017 20:15 Ej_ wrote: Cracklings are cost efficient vs every Protoss thing that doesn't cost gas. They are cost efficient vs almost every protoss ground units and but only when u heavily invest in them. | ||
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On September 11 2017 20:19 seemsgood wrote: They are cost efficient vs almost every protoss ground units and but only when u heavily invest in them. Which you have no reason not to do because they also bust cannons like crazy and can kill bases. | ||
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Zzzapper
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On September 11 2017 20:18 Ej_ wrote: Dark templars also because how in the name of fuck can they cost so little gas?! only one non-caster unit costs more mineral than gas, how is 1:1 gas to mineral ratio low? | ||
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On September 11 2017 20:21 Zzzapper wrote: only one non-caster unit costs more mineral than gas, how is 1:1 gas to mineral ratio low? Well they are invisible and can spawn with either a blade or a scythe. | ||
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On September 11 2017 20:22 Ej_ wrote: Well they are invisible and can spawn with either a blade or a scythe. Ghosts are invisible too and they have guns which is stronger also, they're the only units that can put their weapons away which is extremely op | ||
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On September 11 2017 20:23 Zzzapper wrote: Ghosts are invisible too and they have guns which is stronger also, they're the only units that can put their weapons away which is extremely op Crazy how Terrans can recruit Nova in a multiplayer game and complain about balance. | ||
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On September 11 2017 20:24 Ej_ wrote: Crazy how Terrans can recruit Nova in a multiplayer game and complain about balance. Nova can't even hold fire, regular ghosts are stronger | ||
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seemsgood
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On September 11 2017 20:20 Ej_ wrote: Which you have no reason not to do because they also bust cannons like crazy and can kill bases. Only good for mineral dump.But no one wants to do that cluelessly against fucking air toss.You don't want to reduce your main army supply for harrassment against fucking air toss.GeeZ! | ||
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On September 11 2017 20:26 seemsgood wrote: Only good for mineral dump.But no one wants to do that cluelessly against fucking air toss.You don't want to reduce your main army supply for harrassment against fucking air toss.GeeZ! Funnily enough, crackling/ultra attacks is how Dark routinely wins 30min ZvPs versus the best Protosses in Korea. GeeZ! | ||
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On September 11 2017 20:28 yht9657 wrote: Disruptor drop? Haven't seen one for a really long time edit: nvm | ||
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this is like LRSL | ||
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On September 11 2017 20:27 Ej_ wrote: Funnily enough, crackling/ultra attacks is how Dark routinely wins 30min ZvPs versus the best Protosses in Korea. GeeZ! But not Classic case cause he defended perfectly.Stop committing in ultra/lings harrass was good decision for Dark tbh.Keep doing it only killing him faster. | ||
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On September 11 2017 20:33 djraphi23 wrote: The idea was really good but the attack execution ... It was good to, but his defense execution was diamond league :D | ||
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On September 11 2017 20:33 Ej_ wrote: It was good to, but his defense execution was diamond league :D Can't exactly call it good when the first wave where Dark didn't even know there would be a colossus did no damage at all | ||
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On September 11 2017 20:35 Zzzapper wrote: Can't exactly call it good when the first wave where Dark didn't even know there would be a colossus did no damage at all No damage is the maximum damage potential of this build, Classic did nothing wrong | ||
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On September 11 2017 20:35 Zzzapper wrote: Can't exactly call it good when the first wave where Dark didn't even know there would be a colossus did no damage at all I think he would have eventually won if he had kept trading zealots for ling/bane and sending in more collossi, but obviously didn't have the money after bane bombs. | ||
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On September 11 2017 20:56 Musicus wrote: Neeb would be on 4 bases with 80 probes. Neeb would have died 5 minutes ago. | ||
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On September 11 2017 20:53 Ej_ wrote: Classic is gonna get Ej'd. What is being Ej'd? | ||
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Phredxor
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Neeb would have been eliminated by Hurricane in the qualifiers. | ||
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I don't even want to know. | ||
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Classic better win this game now.... | ||
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get out of the game | ||
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Not that I understand most of what went on | ||
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DAVI... SGTKAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY | ||
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On September 11 2017 21:04 Elentos wrote: The /dance finally broke Classic's resolve. And his chin. | ||
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I'm not sure there's anything in this galaxy that can break the Chin. | ||
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On September 11 2017 21:05 Elentos wrote: I'm not sure there's anything in this galaxy that can break the Chin. Just make BM hatchery into his base. | ||
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Unrelated but the wcs standings on liquipedia are incorrect right? herO and sOs aren't garanteed spots and Gumi isn't garanteed 6th place I think? | ||
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On September 12 2017 00:15 Fango wrote: Classics PvZ has been lacking for a while now. Ez win for Dark Unrelated but the wcs standings on liquipedia are incorrect right? herO and sOs aren't garanteed spots and Gumi isn't garanteed 6th place I think? Gumi won gsl. He is guarenteed into blizzcon through that alone. The only unknowns are 7th and 8th. sOs winning gsl locks him in. Otherwise it all comes down to the super tournament. | ||
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On September 12 2017 06:29 Cricketer12 wrote: Gumi won gsl. He is guarenteed into blizzcon through that alone. The only unknowns are 7th and 8th. sOs winning gsl locks him in. Otherwise it all comes down to the super tournament. Gumi is guaranteed a spot, but not necessarily the 6th spot. WCS KR is not yet finalized, there are still points to be awarded and the seedings can change. 6 spots are locked, yes, but the order of the specific players in those spots is still undetermined. Unlike WCS Circuit, which has all 8 spots locked as as they are. Stats is guaranteed 1st and INnoVation is guaranteed 2nd. TY, soO, Dark, and Gumiho are guaranteed some spot from #2-#8. herO and sOs can still be replaced. Liquipedia is correct, if perhaps unclear. | ||
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On September 12 2017 06:29 Cricketer12 wrote: Gumi won gsl. He is guarenteed into blizzcon through that alone. The only unknowns are 7th and 8th. sOs winning gsl locks him in. Otherwise it all comes down to the super tournament. Yes I know. But on liquipedia it said gumi was garanteed the sixth spot specifically, and herO and sOs were garanteed spots at blizzcon. Which isn't true (this has been corrected on LP since I wrote that original comment) | ||
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On September 15 2017 14:01 Topin wrote: im so sad for Classic but Dark play better, well deserved! It sucks for Classic for sure, but it gives us the best final of the year...if only we saw it in gsl as well | ||
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