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TY can be the player with a final in all the global events of the year.
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will I have to deal with Luolis rampant cheating?
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On September 11 2017 00:23 DieuCure wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2017 00:21 Olli wrote:On September 11 2017 00:15 Elentos wrote:On September 11 2017 00:12 Olli wrote:On September 11 2017 00:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:On September 11 2017 00:03 Elentos wrote:On September 10 2017 23:58 Olli wrote:On September 10 2017 23:51 DieuCure wrote:
Is Neeb better than Taeja ? Has Neeb won 11 Premier tournaments? On September 10 2017 23:58 Bayaz90 wrote:On September 10 2017 23:57 Inflicted wrote:
Not sure if it was mentioned but Stats vs SpeCial is the first confirmed Blizzcon matchup Ouch  poor Major He took 2 maps off Stats in a Bo5 at GSL vs the World. There's some hope at least! Stats can't allow himself to lose to any non-Korean at Blizzcon. He's gotta round out his super successful year with even more success. You say Stats had a good year? Damn you are right! I just noticed that he got top4 or better in 10 of the last 13 premier tournaments. WOW this might be the best 12 months of a starcraft2 player ever, damn. Thanks for bringing this to our attention, maybe some casters or writers might actually notice it as well now. It isn't. Dismissive. But I think even you can't deny that Stats doesn't get the praise he deserves for his 2017 from casters and the like. That I can agree with. I don't agree at all that he's had the best year of any player ever. So, who ? And what if he makes it to ro4 blizzcon ?
That's the one thing where Mvp still holds the top spot. Zest is also up there
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On September 11 2017 00:24 Heartland wrote:will I have to deal with Luolis rampant cheating?
Depends, what kind of cheating? Will it affect you if he picks you for his team? 
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On September 11 2017 00:21 Olli wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2017 00:15 Elentos wrote:On September 11 2017 00:12 Olli wrote:On September 11 2017 00:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:On September 11 2017 00:03 Elentos wrote:On September 10 2017 23:58 Olli wrote:On September 10 2017 23:51 DieuCure wrote:
Is Neeb better than Taeja ? Has Neeb won 11 Premier tournaments? On September 10 2017 23:58 Bayaz90 wrote:On September 10 2017 23:57 Inflicted wrote:
Not sure if it was mentioned but Stats vs SpeCial is the first confirmed Blizzcon matchup Ouch poor Major He took 2 maps off Stats in a Bo5 at GSL vs the World. There's some hope at least! Stats can't allow himself to lose to any non-Korean at Blizzcon. He's gotta round out his super successful year with even more success. You say Stats had a good year? Damn you are right! I just noticed that he got top4 or better in 10 of the last 13 premier tournaments. WOW this might be the best 12 months of a starcraft2 player ever, damn. Thanks for bringing this to our attention, maybe some casters or writers might actually notice it as well now. It isn't. Dismissive. But I think even you can't deny that Stats doesn't get the praise he deserves for his 2017 from casters and the like. That I can agree with.
Well then, I hope *cough* *cough* whoever writes Stats' Blizzcon preview *cough* *cough* has a clue how to open the world's eyes on how good Stats was all year.
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On September 11 2017 00:25 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2017 00:24 Heartland wrote:will I have to deal with Luolis rampant cheating? Depends, what kind of cheating? Will it affect you if he picks you for his team?
The sort of cheating that made him win vs me of course!
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so Ej_, are we still sigbetting or what?
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Austria24422 Posts
On September 11 2017 00:22 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2017 00:21 Olli wrote:On September 11 2017 00:15 Elentos wrote:On September 11 2017 00:12 Olli wrote:On September 11 2017 00:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:On September 11 2017 00:03 Elentos wrote:On September 10 2017 23:58 Olli wrote:On September 10 2017 23:51 DieuCure wrote:
Is Neeb better than Taeja ? Has Neeb won 11 Premier tournaments? On September 10 2017 23:58 Bayaz90 wrote:On September 10 2017 23:57 Inflicted wrote:
Not sure if it was mentioned but Stats vs SpeCial is the first confirmed Blizzcon matchup Ouch poor Major He took 2 maps off Stats in a Bo5 at GSL vs the World. There's some hope at least! Stats can't allow himself to lose to any non-Korean at Blizzcon. He's gotta round out his super successful year with even more success. You say Stats had a good year? Damn you are right! I just noticed that he got top4 or better in 10 of the last 13 premier tournaments. WOW this might be the best 12 months of a starcraft2 player ever, damn. Thanks for bringing this to our attention, maybe some casters or writers might actually notice it as well now. It isn't. Dismissive. But I think even you can't deny that Stats doesn't get the praise he deserves for his 2017 from casters and the like. That I can agree with. I don't agree at all that he's had the best year of any player ever. I am not saying this is a sure thing, but it should be up for consideration at least imo
You can consider it, but I don't agree with it at all. If you're a good player nowadays, you're almost guaranteed a Ro16 in GSL since the competition is so thin now. Plus we've had years when players won 3 Korean tournaments in one year and never dropped off in skill, while Stats definitely did mid 2017. Mvp's 2011 was better imo, Zest's 2014 was as well. Arguments to be made about Life and Taeja when they peaked. Also an argument to be made about Maru in 2014 or 15. The last three I'm not sure though, but they felt much better at the time.
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Neeb has the percentages
(2735) Neeb 0-0 TRUE (2405)
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26.66% 3-0 0-3 4.53%
28.51% 3-1 1-3 8.74%
20.32% 3-2 2-3 11.25%
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75.49% 24.51%
Median outcome: Neeb 3-1 TRUE
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
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United States97276 Posts
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On September 11 2017 00:26 AzAlexZ wrote:
so Ej_, are we still sigbetting or what?
Sure. If Elazer vs Neeb is the final, I'm willing to take a month log sigbet that Elazer will win.
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On September 11 2017 00:27 Olli wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2017 00:22 The_Red_Viper wrote:On September 11 2017 00:21 Olli wrote:On September 11 2017 00:15 Elentos wrote:On September 11 2017 00:12 Olli wrote:On September 11 2017 00:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:On September 11 2017 00:03 Elentos wrote:On September 10 2017 23:58 Olli wrote:On September 10 2017 23:51 DieuCure wrote:
Is Neeb better than Taeja ? Has Neeb won 11 Premier tournaments? On September 10 2017 23:58 Bayaz90 wrote:On September 10 2017 23:57 Inflicted wrote:
Not sure if it was mentioned but Stats vs SpeCial is the first confirmed Blizzcon matchup Ouch poor Major He took 2 maps off Stats in a Bo5 at GSL vs the World. There's some hope at least! Stats can't allow himself to lose to any non-Korean at Blizzcon. He's gotta round out his super successful year with even more success. You say Stats had a good year? Damn you are right! I just noticed that he got top4 or better in 10 of the last 13 premier tournaments. WOW this might be the best 12 months of a starcraft2 player ever, damn. Thanks for bringing this to our attention, maybe some casters or writers might actually notice it as well now. It isn't. Dismissive. But I think even you can't deny that Stats doesn't get the praise he deserves for his 2017 from casters and the like. That I can agree with. I don't agree at all that he's had the best year of any player ever. I am not saying this is a sure thing, but it should be up for consideration at least imo You can consider it, but I don't agree with it at all. If you're a good player nowadays, you're almost guaranteed a Ro16 in GSL since the competition is so thin now. Plus we've had years when players won 3 Korean tournaments in one year and never dropped off in skill, while Stats definitely did mid 2017. Mvp's 2011 was better imo, Zest's 2014 was as well. Arguments to be made about Life and Taeja when they peaked. Also an argument to be made about Maru in 2014 or 15. The last three I'm not sure though, but they felt much better at the time.
Maybe they felt better but I don't think they objectively come close in success to Stats in the past 12 months. Regarding the bold part, Mvp dropped out of Code S mid-year, so did he really never drop off at all?
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Being even on workers is not good for Zerg? Do we have 4 larvae from injects again?
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On September 11 2017 00:27 Olli wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2017 00:22 The_Red_Viper wrote:On September 11 2017 00:21 Olli wrote:On September 11 2017 00:15 Elentos wrote:On September 11 2017 00:12 Olli wrote:On September 11 2017 00:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:On September 11 2017 00:03 Elentos wrote:On September 10 2017 23:58 Olli wrote:On September 10 2017 23:51 DieuCure wrote:
Is Neeb better than Taeja ? Has Neeb won 11 Premier tournaments? On September 10 2017 23:58 Bayaz90 wrote:On September 10 2017 23:57 Inflicted wrote:
Not sure if it was mentioned but Stats vs SpeCial is the first confirmed Blizzcon matchup Ouch poor Major He took 2 maps off Stats in a Bo5 at GSL vs the World. There's some hope at least! Stats can't allow himself to lose to any non-Korean at Blizzcon. He's gotta round out his super successful year with even more success. You say Stats had a good year? Damn you are right! I just noticed that he got top4 or better in 10 of the last 13 premier tournaments. WOW this might be the best 12 months of a starcraft2 player ever, damn. Thanks for bringing this to our attention, maybe some casters or writers might actually notice it as well now. It isn't. Dismissive. But I think even you can't deny that Stats doesn't get the praise he deserves for his 2017 from casters and the like. That I can agree with. I don't agree at all that he's had the best year of any player ever. I am not saying this is a sure thing, but it should be up for consideration at least imo You can consider it, but I don't agree with it at all. If you're a good player nowadays, you're almost guaranteed a Ro16 in GSL since the competition is so thin now. Plus we've had years when players won 3 Korean tournaments in one year and never dropped off in skill, while Stats definitely did mid 2017. Mvp's 2011 was better imo, Zest's 2014 was as well. Arguments to be made about Life and Taeja when they peaked. Also an argument to be made about Maru in 2014 or 15. The last three I'm not sure though, but they felt much better at the time.
Life never was consistently good for a year and I don't agree at all with TaeJa (lol) and Maru.
Like how you don't even mention Inno
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On September 11 2017 00:27 Olli wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2017 00:22 The_Red_Viper wrote:On September 11 2017 00:21 Olli wrote:On September 11 2017 00:15 Elentos wrote:On September 11 2017 00:12 Olli wrote:On September 11 2017 00:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:On September 11 2017 00:03 Elentos wrote:On September 10 2017 23:58 Olli wrote:On September 10 2017 23:51 DieuCure wrote:
Is Neeb better than Taeja ? Has Neeb won 11 Premier tournaments? On September 10 2017 23:58 Bayaz90 wrote:On September 10 2017 23:57 Inflicted wrote:
Not sure if it was mentioned but Stats vs SpeCial is the first confirmed Blizzcon matchup Ouch poor Major He took 2 maps off Stats in a Bo5 at GSL vs the World. There's some hope at least! Stats can't allow himself to lose to any non-Korean at Blizzcon. He's gotta round out his super successful year with even more success. You say Stats had a good year? Damn you are right! I just noticed that he got top4 or better in 10 of the last 13 premier tournaments. WOW this might be the best 12 months of a starcraft2 player ever, damn. Thanks for bringing this to our attention, maybe some casters or writers might actually notice it as well now. It isn't. Dismissive. But I think even you can't deny that Stats doesn't get the praise he deserves for his 2017 from casters and the like. That I can agree with. I don't agree at all that he's had the best year of any player ever. I am not saying this is a sure thing, but it should be up for consideration at least imo You can consider it, but I don't agree with it at all. If you're a good player nowadays, you're almost guaranteed a Ro16 in GSL since the competition is so thin now. Plus we've had years when players won 3 Korean tournaments in one year and never dropped off in skill, while Stats definitely did mid 2017. Mvp's 2011 was better imo, Zest's 2014 was as well. Arguments to be made about Life and Taeja when they peaked. Also an argument to be made about Maru in 2014 or 15. The last three I'm not sure though, but they felt much better at the time.
I might quote you later in stats' fanclub, maybe! Now i just wanna watch Neeb beat some zerg players
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On September 11 2017 00:30 DBooN wrote:
Being even on workers is not good for Zerg? Do we have 4 larvae from injects again?
No, but your units still blow.
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On September 11 2017 00:23 DieuCure wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2017 00:21 Olli wrote:On September 11 2017 00:15 Elentos wrote:On September 11 2017 00:12 Olli wrote:On September 11 2017 00:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:On September 11 2017 00:03 Elentos wrote:On September 10 2017 23:58 Olli wrote:On September 10 2017 23:51 DieuCure wrote:
Is Neeb better than Taeja ? Has Neeb won 11 Premier tournaments? On September 10 2017 23:58 Bayaz90 wrote:On September 10 2017 23:57 Inflicted wrote:
Not sure if it was mentioned but Stats vs SpeCial is the first confirmed Blizzcon matchup Ouch poor Major He took 2 maps off Stats in a Bo5 at GSL vs the World. There's some hope at least! Stats can't allow himself to lose to any non-Korean at Blizzcon. He's gotta round out his super successful year with even more success. You say Stats had a good year? Damn you are right! I just noticed that he got top4 or better in 10 of the last 13 premier tournaments. WOW this might be the best 12 months of a starcraft2 player ever, damn. Thanks for bringing this to our attention, maybe some casters or writers might actually notice it as well now. It isn't. Dismissive. But I think even you can't deny that Stats doesn't get the praise he deserves for his 2017 from casters and the like. That I can agree with. I don't agree at all that he's had the best year of any player ever. So, who ? And what if he makes it to ro4 blizzcon ?
Zest won 3 premier korean events in one year, as well as finish highly (ro4/ro8) in everything else. MVP did something similar iirc.
Inno is very close to doing the same. If he wins GSL he would match/maybe beat MVP and Zest's records
Stats is consistant, but only has a single win to his name right now. Whether it's fair or not is debatable, but people remember actual wins 10x more than high finishes (except for maybe soO's case)
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On September 11 2017 00:28 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2017 00:26 AzAlexZ wrote:
so Ej_, are we still sigbetting or what? Sure. If Elazer vs Neeb is the final, I'm willing to take a month log sigbet that Elazer will win.
One month? True sigbets are a year
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On September 11 2017 00:30 DBooN wrote:
Being even on workers is not good for Zerg? Do we have 4 larvae from injects again?
I think we would have to consult Nerchio here but I think any worker situation is a bad situation for Zerg
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On September 11 2017 00:27 Olli wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2017 00:22 The_Red_Viper wrote:On September 11 2017 00:21 Olli wrote:On September 11 2017 00:15 Elentos wrote:On September 11 2017 00:12 Olli wrote:On September 11 2017 00:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:On September 11 2017 00:03 Elentos wrote:On September 10 2017 23:58 Olli wrote:On September 10 2017 23:51 DieuCure wrote:
Is Neeb better than Taeja ? Has Neeb won 11 Premier tournaments? On September 10 2017 23:58 Bayaz90 wrote:On September 10 2017 23:57 Inflicted wrote:
Not sure if it was mentioned but Stats vs SpeCial is the first confirmed Blizzcon matchup Ouch poor Major He took 2 maps off Stats in a Bo5 at GSL vs the World. There's some hope at least! Stats can't allow himself to lose to any non-Korean at Blizzcon. He's gotta round out his super successful year with even more success. You say Stats had a good year? Damn you are right! I just noticed that he got top4 or better in 10 of the last 13 premier tournaments. WOW this might be the best 12 months of a starcraft2 player ever, damn. Thanks for bringing this to our attention, maybe some casters or writers might actually notice it as well now. It isn't. Dismissive. But I think even you can't deny that Stats doesn't get the praise he deserves for his 2017 from casters and the like. That I can agree with. I don't agree at all that he's had the best year of any player ever. I am not saying this is a sure thing, but it should be up for consideration at least imo You can consider it, but I don't agree with it at all. If you're a good player nowadays, you're almost guaranteed a Ro16 in GSL since the competition is so thin now. Plus we've had years when players won 3 Korean tournaments in one year and never dropped off in skill, while Stats definitely did mid 2017. Mvp's 2011 was better imo, Zest's 2014 was as well. Arguments to be made about Life and Taeja when they peaked. Also an argument to be made about Maru in 2014 or 15. The last three I'm not sure though, but they felt much better at the time.
Everybody was bad at the time so it's pointless, example : harder to win 2 Champions League in a row nowadays than 5 in 50s.
You have to be fair.
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