On September 11 2017 00:40 Shellshock wrote:
Olli believes that 2011 HerO would beat Innovation today so...
Olli believes that 2011 HerO would beat Innovation today so...
2011 IdrA would surely beat todays Inno
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Charoisaur
Germany15625 Posts
On September 11 2017 00:40 Shellshock wrote: Olli believes that 2011 HerO would beat Innovation today so... 2011 IdrA would surely beat todays Inno | ||
Elentos
55454 Posts
On September 11 2017 00:40 Shellshock wrote: Olli believes that 2011 HerO would beat Innovation today so... But could 2017 HerO beat 2010 FruitDealer | ||
DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On September 11 2017 00:39 Ej_ wrote: Show nested quote + On September 11 2017 00:38 DieuCure wrote: On September 11 2017 00:36 Olli wrote: On September 11 2017 00:32 DieuCure wrote: On September 11 2017 00:27 Olli wrote: On September 11 2017 00:22 The_Red_Viper wrote: On September 11 2017 00:21 Olli wrote: On September 11 2017 00:15 Elentos wrote: On September 11 2017 00:12 Olli wrote: On September 11 2017 00:07 The_Red_Viper wrote: [quote] You say Stats had a good year? Damn you are right! I just noticed that he got top4 or better in 10 of the last 13 premier tournaments. WOW this might be the best 12 months of a starcraft2 player ever, damn. Thanks for bringing this to our attention, maybe some casters or writers might actually notice it as well now. It isn't. Dismissive. But I think even you can't deny that Stats doesn't get the praise he deserves for his 2017 from casters and the like. That I can agree with. I don't agree at all that he's had the best year of any player ever. I am not saying this is a sure thing, but it should be up for consideration at least imo You can consider it, but I don't agree with it at all. If you're a good player nowadays, you're almost guaranteed a Ro16 in GSL since the competition is so thin now. Plus we've had years when players won 3 Korean tournaments in one year and never dropped off in skill, while Stats definitely did mid 2017. Mvp's 2011 was better imo, Zest's 2014 was as well. Arguments to be made about Life and Taeja when they peaked. Also an argument to be made about Maru in 2014 or 15. The last three I'm not sure though, but they felt much better at the time. Everybody was bad at the time so it's pointless, example : harder to win 2 Champions League in a row nowadays than 5 in 50s. You have to be fair. Complete nonsense, and it isn't relevant anyway. People are not better now than they were in 2014 for example. Yes I'm sure INnoVation 2017 would have gone 1-4 against Cure 2014 because he is weaker than ever now Even 2003 INnoVation would roflstomp Cure In 2014 he won only because Mech was a complete BS. Cure's skill was higher, but mech can compensate | ||
The_Red_Viper
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On September 11 2017 00:40 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On September 11 2017 00:40 Shellshock wrote: Olli believes that 2011 HerO would beat Innovation today so... But could 2017 HerO beat 2010 FruitDealer Is Fruitdealer allowed to make spore crawlers? | ||
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30538 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15625 Posts
On September 11 2017 00:41 DieuCure wrote: Show nested quote + On September 11 2017 00:39 Ej_ wrote: On September 11 2017 00:38 DieuCure wrote: On September 11 2017 00:36 Olli wrote: On September 11 2017 00:32 DieuCure wrote: On September 11 2017 00:27 Olli wrote: On September 11 2017 00:22 The_Red_Viper wrote: On September 11 2017 00:21 Olli wrote: On September 11 2017 00:15 Elentos wrote: On September 11 2017 00:12 Olli wrote: [quote] It isn't. Dismissive. But I think even you can't deny that Stats doesn't get the praise he deserves for his 2017 from casters and the like. That I can agree with. I don't agree at all that he's had the best year of any player ever. I am not saying this is a sure thing, but it should be up for consideration at least imo You can consider it, but I don't agree with it at all. If you're a good player nowadays, you're almost guaranteed a Ro16 in GSL since the competition is so thin now. Plus we've had years when players won 3 Korean tournaments in one year and never dropped off in skill, while Stats definitely did mid 2017. Mvp's 2011 was better imo, Zest's 2014 was as well. Arguments to be made about Life and Taeja when they peaked. Also an argument to be made about Maru in 2014 or 15. The last three I'm not sure though, but they felt much better at the time. Everybody was bad at the time so it's pointless, example : harder to win 2 Champions League in a row nowadays than 5 in 50s. You have to be fair. Complete nonsense, and it isn't relevant anyway. People are not better now than they were in 2014 for example. Yes I'm sure INnoVation 2017 would have gone 1-4 against Cure 2014 because he is weaker than ever now Even 2003 INnoVation would roflstomp Cure In 2014 he won only because Mech was a complete BS. Cure's skill was higher, but mech can compensate shame that he didn't have the option to play mech himself | ||
Shellshock
United States97250 Posts
On September 11 2017 00:41 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: stop this best era talk or you'll summon | ||
The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On September 11 2017 00:41 Charoisaur wrote: Show nested quote + On September 11 2017 00:41 DieuCure wrote: On September 11 2017 00:39 Ej_ wrote: On September 11 2017 00:38 DieuCure wrote: On September 11 2017 00:36 Olli wrote: On September 11 2017 00:32 DieuCure wrote: On September 11 2017 00:27 Olli wrote: On September 11 2017 00:22 The_Red_Viper wrote: On September 11 2017 00:21 Olli wrote: On September 11 2017 00:15 Elentos wrote: [quote] Dismissive. But I think even you can't deny that Stats doesn't get the praise he deserves for his 2017 from casters and the like. That I can agree with. I don't agree at all that he's had the best year of any player ever. I am not saying this is a sure thing, but it should be up for consideration at least imo You can consider it, but I don't agree with it at all. If you're a good player nowadays, you're almost guaranteed a Ro16 in GSL since the competition is so thin now. Plus we've had years when players won 3 Korean tournaments in one year and never dropped off in skill, while Stats definitely did mid 2017. Mvp's 2011 was better imo, Zest's 2014 was as well. Arguments to be made about Life and Taeja when they peaked. Also an argument to be made about Maru in 2014 or 15. The last three I'm not sure though, but they felt much better at the time. Everybody was bad at the time so it's pointless, example : harder to win 2 Champions League in a row nowadays than 5 in 50s. You have to be fair. Complete nonsense, and it isn't relevant anyway. People are not better now than they were in 2014 for example. Yes I'm sure INnoVation 2017 would have gone 1-4 against Cure 2014 because he is weaker than ever now Even 2003 INnoVation would roflstomp Cure In 2014 he won only because Mech was a complete BS. Cure's skill was higher, but mech can compensate shame that he didn't have the option to play mech "it's just not as funny" | ||
Argonauta
Spain4748 Posts
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
TOP would have 12K wcs points | ||
Charoisaur
Germany15625 Posts
On September 11 2017 00:43 DieuCure wrote: Mvp 2011 vs 2017 players = 4-0 everytime for sure TOP would have 12K wcs points 2011 BitByBit would sweep 2017 GSL | ||
DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On September 11 2017 00:41 Charoisaur wrote: Show nested quote + On September 11 2017 00:41 DieuCure wrote: On September 11 2017 00:39 Ej_ wrote: On September 11 2017 00:38 DieuCure wrote: On September 11 2017 00:36 Olli wrote: On September 11 2017 00:32 DieuCure wrote: On September 11 2017 00:27 Olli wrote: On September 11 2017 00:22 The_Red_Viper wrote: On September 11 2017 00:21 Olli wrote: On September 11 2017 00:15 Elentos wrote: [quote] Dismissive. But I think even you can't deny that Stats doesn't get the praise he deserves for his 2017 from casters and the like. That I can agree with. I don't agree at all that he's had the best year of any player ever. I am not saying this is a sure thing, but it should be up for consideration at least imo You can consider it, but I don't agree with it at all. If you're a good player nowadays, you're almost guaranteed a Ro16 in GSL since the competition is so thin now. Plus we've had years when players won 3 Korean tournaments in one year and never dropped off in skill, while Stats definitely did mid 2017. Mvp's 2011 was better imo, Zest's 2014 was as well. Arguments to be made about Life and Taeja when they peaked. Also an argument to be made about Maru in 2014 or 15. The last three I'm not sure though, but they felt much better at the time. Everybody was bad at the time so it's pointless, example : harder to win 2 Champions League in a row nowadays than 5 in 50s. You have to be fair. Complete nonsense, and it isn't relevant anyway. People are not better now than they were in 2014 for example. Yes I'm sure INnoVation 2017 would have gone 1-4 against Cure 2014 because he is weaker than ever now Even 2003 INnoVation would roflstomp Cure In 2014 he won only because Mech was a complete BS. Cure's skill was higher, but mech can compensate shame that he didn't have the option to play mech himself Cure is a real man. He don't fight paper with knife. | ||
Elentos
55454 Posts
On September 11 2017 00:41 DieuCure wrote: Show nested quote + On September 11 2017 00:39 Ej_ wrote: On September 11 2017 00:38 DieuCure wrote: On September 11 2017 00:36 Olli wrote: On September 11 2017 00:32 DieuCure wrote: On September 11 2017 00:27 Olli wrote: On September 11 2017 00:22 The_Red_Viper wrote: On September 11 2017 00:21 Olli wrote: On September 11 2017 00:15 Elentos wrote: On September 11 2017 00:12 Olli wrote: [quote] It isn't. Dismissive. But I think even you can't deny that Stats doesn't get the praise he deserves for his 2017 from casters and the like. That I can agree with. I don't agree at all that he's had the best year of any player ever. I am not saying this is a sure thing, but it should be up for consideration at least imo You can consider it, but I don't agree with it at all. If you're a good player nowadays, you're almost guaranteed a Ro16 in GSL since the competition is so thin now. Plus we've had years when players won 3 Korean tournaments in one year and never dropped off in skill, while Stats definitely did mid 2017. Mvp's 2011 was better imo, Zest's 2014 was as well. Arguments to be made about Life and Taeja when they peaked. Also an argument to be made about Maru in 2014 or 15. The last three I'm not sure though, but they felt much better at the time. Everybody was bad at the time so it's pointless, example : harder to win 2 Champions League in a row nowadays than 5 in 50s. You have to be fair. Complete nonsense, and it isn't relevant anyway. People are not better now than they were in 2014 for example. Yes I'm sure INnoVation 2017 would have gone 1-4 against Cure 2014 because he is weaker than ever now Even 2003 INnoVation would roflstomp Cure In 2014 he won only because Mech was a complete BS. Cure's skill was higher, but mech can compensate What a shame Cure got stomped in the only marine/tank vs marine/tank game of that series so he couldn't show his higher skill. | ||
Shellshock
United States97250 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On September 11 2017 00:44 Shellshock wrote: the elephant in the room 2.0 is that 2017 players are shit and this era sux If Overwatch players like myungsik and cure would switch they would instantly dominate the scene | ||
DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On September 11 2017 00:43 Charoisaur wrote: Show nested quote + On September 11 2017 00:43 DieuCure wrote: Mvp 2011 vs 2017 players = 4-0 everytime for sure TOP would have 12K wcs points 2011 BitByBit would sweep 2017 GSL Easily, I mean, this era was like 8 sky above this one | ||
DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On September 11 2017 00:44 Elentos wrote: Show nested quote + On September 11 2017 00:41 DieuCure wrote: On September 11 2017 00:39 Ej_ wrote: On September 11 2017 00:38 DieuCure wrote: On September 11 2017 00:36 Olli wrote: On September 11 2017 00:32 DieuCure wrote: On September 11 2017 00:27 Olli wrote: On September 11 2017 00:22 The_Red_Viper wrote: On September 11 2017 00:21 Olli wrote: On September 11 2017 00:15 Elentos wrote: [quote] Dismissive. But I think even you can't deny that Stats doesn't get the praise he deserves for his 2017 from casters and the like. That I can agree with. I don't agree at all that he's had the best year of any player ever. I am not saying this is a sure thing, but it should be up for consideration at least imo You can consider it, but I don't agree with it at all. If you're a good player nowadays, you're almost guaranteed a Ro16 in GSL since the competition is so thin now. Plus we've had years when players won 3 Korean tournaments in one year and never dropped off in skill, while Stats definitely did mid 2017. Mvp's 2011 was better imo, Zest's 2014 was as well. Arguments to be made about Life and Taeja when they peaked. Also an argument to be made about Maru in 2014 or 15. The last three I'm not sure though, but they felt much better at the time. Everybody was bad at the time so it's pointless, example : harder to win 2 Champions League in a row nowadays than 5 in 50s. You have to be fair. Complete nonsense, and it isn't relevant anyway. People are not better now than they were in 2014 for example. Yes I'm sure INnoVation 2017 would have gone 1-4 against Cure 2014 because he is weaker than ever now Even 2003 INnoVation would roflstomp Cure In 2014 he won only because Mech was a complete BS. Cure's skill was higher, but mech can compensate What a shame Cure got stomped in the only marine/tank vs marine/tank game of that series so he couldn't show his higher skill. Lol you are 100% biased, sorry | ||
Charoisaur
Germany15625 Posts
On September 11 2017 00:45 The_Red_Viper wrote: Show nested quote + On September 11 2017 00:44 Shellshock wrote: the elephant in the room 2.0 is that 2017 players are shit and this era sux If Overwatch players like myungsik and cure would switch they would instantly dominate the scene Btw what's going on with Myungsik? I heard he wanted to switch back to SC2 but he isn't playing in any tournaments. | ||
Heartland
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