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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
September 10 2017 22:58 GMT
#1161
Been a hard year for foreign terrans. Even the foreign terrans training in Korea don't seem to have the mechanics to play the race well.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
September 10 2017 22:58 GMT
#1162
On September 11 2017 07:43 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 07:21 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On September 11 2017 07:19 Shellshock wrote:
On September 11 2017 07:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On September 11 2017 07:02 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
if they decide to go to Canada again next year i hope its Montreal. they've earned it.
look up the word boring in the dictionary and there is a picture of the Toronto skyline.

Or how about the western half of this country get some love for once. Dreamhack Calgary or Vancouver please

nah

Would be better than whatever bumfuck town you live in

they already have DH Atlanta

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DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
September 10 2017 23:02 GMT
#1163
On September 11 2017 07:58 royalroadweed wrote:
Been a hard expansion* for foreign terrans. Even the foreign terrans training in Korea don't seem to have the mechanics to play the race well.


I agree
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17751 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-10 23:44:06
September 10 2017 23:41 GMT
#1164
any how, great event. great fun..
too bad neeb stomped everyone he faced.. that killed the entertainment value somewhat.
On September 11 2017 07:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 07:02 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
if they decide to go to Canada again next year i hope its Montreal. they've earned it.
look up the word boring in the dictionary and there is a picture of the Toronto skyline.

Or how about the western half of this country get some love for once. Dreamhack Calgary or Vancouver please

i think the reason they avoid western Canada is that they figure Anaheim is in the South West area of NA...
so Blizz wants big events in cities in the North East of NA to balance things out.

that's my theory any way.
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Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
September 11 2017 00:08 GMT
#1165
Cant wait to see neeb vs innovation at blizzcon finals
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
September 11 2017 02:09 GMT
#1166
We need foreigners on Blizzcon to shut up those who say the gap is closing.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
September 11 2017 02:18 GMT
#1167
jesus was it a stomp ?

looks like neeb is a juggernaut in pvz
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 11 2017 02:18 GMT
#1168
On September 11 2017 11:18 Makro wrote:
jesus was it a stomp ?

looks like neeb is a juggernaut in pvz

none of the games were close in either neeb series today
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 11 2017 02:20 GMT
#1169
btw, this tournament run puts Neeb 2 points shy of overtaking Innovation as number 1 on aligulac haha. Jumped Maru, TY, Dark, ByuN, and Gumiho
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
September 11 2017 02:24 GMT
#1170
On September 11 2017 11:18 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 11:18 Makro wrote:
jesus was it a stomp ?

looks like neeb is a juggernaut in pvz

none of the games were close in either neeb series today

People were giving Scarlett so much shit for getting blown out by Neeb, and then today's matches were even less close. At least she took a damn game. Neeb's good man
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ghostmaster93
Profile Joined July 2017
155 Posts
September 11 2017 02:29 GMT
#1171
On September 11 2017 11:09 Morbidius wrote:
We need foreigners on Blizzcon to shut up those who say the gap is closing.


Rather than saying the gap is closing, I prefer to say the korean scence is declining, but still very far from the foreigner scence.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
September 11 2017 02:33 GMT
#1172
On September 11 2017 11:20 Shellshock wrote:
btw, this tournament run puts Neeb 2 points shy of overtaking Innovation as number 1 on aligulac haha. Jumped Maru, TY, Dark, ByuN, and Gumiho

And some people wonder why aligulac is criticized.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 11 2017 02:46 GMT
#1173
I mean it's simply what you get with a split tournament scene. All the foreigners are inflated because it's easier to get mmr there. If we just compare players of each region to each other aligulac is pretty good.
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Clevername02
Profile Joined January 2017
15 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-11 02:53:47
September 11 2017 02:46 GMT
#1174
I understand people's frustration with the current system if it results in boring tournaments like this. I think it is very simple what blizzard needs to do to make next year more exciting for the viewers and more fair for the players. Combine all tournaments into a single pool of points but require all tournaments to have online qualifiers in all the major regions including GSL, SSL, IEM, etc. Non-Koreans that qualify for GSL or SSL should have their flights to Korea paid for by Blizzard and Blizzard should work with NoRegret on setting up affordable housing in Korea for them, my understanding is he has already made great progress toward getting affordable housing for next year but just needs a sponsor to make a deposit.

If Blizzard doesn't want to make such a drastic change then they could maintain the split system but have WCS Challenger Korea for WCS Circuit events which will give a few spots to Koreans in WCS circuit events. In exchange GSL could add a separate online qualifier in Europe and America to guarantee a few GSL spots to non-Koreans.

Even if these aren't perfect solutions I think people should share their ideas for how to improve the system rather than just yell at eachother. If the community can come up with some good ideas we might actually see change.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
September 11 2017 02:49 GMT
#1175
just forgot about the previous wins of neeb this year, he has been on fire
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juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
September 11 2017 02:49 GMT
#1176
Any recommended matches?
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-11 02:51:22
September 11 2017 02:50 GMT
#1177
On September 11 2017 11:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I mean it's simply what you get with a split tournament scene. All the foreigners are inflated because it's easier to get mmr there. If we just compare players of each region to each other aligulac is pretty good.

well yeah if you approach it reasonably like that it makes sense. but I want to say that Neeb is currently favored against every player in the world except Gumiho and Byun for the drama
On September 11 2017 11:49 juicyjames wrote:
Any recommended matches?

Elazer vs Snute as a whole was a solid, competitive series. the neeb series are only recommended if you want to see complete 1 sided beat downs where 1 player could do whatever he wanted
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 11 2017 03:01 GMT
#1178
On September 11 2017 11:20 Shellshock wrote:
btw, this tournament run puts Neeb 2 points shy of overtaking Innovation as number 1 on aligulac haha. Jumped Maru, TY, Dark, ByuN, and Gumiho


So basically Neeb is confirmed better than almost every korean without actually beating any?
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-11 03:03:51
September 11 2017 03:03 GMT
#1179
On September 11 2017 12:01 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 11:20 Shellshock wrote:
btw, this tournament run puts Neeb 2 points shy of overtaking Innovation as number 1 on aligulac haha. Jumped Maru, TY, Dark, ByuN, and Gumiho


So basically Neeb is confirmed better than almost every korean without actually beating any?

wow please he is a KOREAN TOURNAMENT CHAMPION you hater

he created the 2nd gap

Korea ---- gap ---- Neeb --- gap ---- foreign scene

next year neeb has to be in his own region in wcs against AI
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 11 2017 03:03 GMT
#1180
On September 11 2017 11:09 Morbidius wrote:
We need foreigners on Blizzcon to shut up those who say the gap is closing.


Neeb isn't even proving the gap is closing. He's just creating another gap
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
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