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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 05 2017 10:17 GMT
#781
On August 05 2017 19:17 Charoisaur wrote:
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On August 05 2017 19:14 Heartland wrote:
I think definitely the gap has become smaller, but that is not because foreigners got better but because the Kespa infrastructure collapsed and Koreans play worse today.

I think it's both. Just looking at the games players like Neeb, Nerchio or Elazer are playing much cleaner than previous top foreigners.

Agreed
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 05 2017 10:17 GMT
#782
Lmao 13/12
ZvZ never disappoints
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
August 05 2017 10:18 GMT
#783
Dark knows he cant beat Soo in a macro game
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 05 2017 10:18 GMT
#784
On August 05 2017 19:17 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2017 19:15 Elentos wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:13 raff100 wrote:
Showtime\Neeb\Seeral\Special did more than decently in this tournament. Foreignland can be proud of its players

Nerchio played well too. And given who iA and Scarlett played against, I don't think anyone has to be ashamed of their performance.

iA was way better than the score would tell for sure

I found Scarlett on the other hand mildly disappointing. Maybe 2018 is the right time to pull the Neeb/Classic move.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 05 2017 10:18 GMT
#785
On August 05 2017 19:17 Durnuu wrote:
Lmao 13/12
ZvZ never disappoints

Finally we get a good series
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
August 05 2017 10:18 GMT
#786
Have they mentioned the 13/12 yet?
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
August 05 2017 10:19 GMT
#787
I basically agree with the fact that the Korean trained foreigners do well and play well, but that has always been the case. It's been the guys who went over for six months who were dangerous to Koreans.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
August 05 2017 10:19 GMT
#788
foreigners became more confident and got ride of their non koreans complex, back in the days some top foreigners just collapsed at one point for obvious reasons
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
August 05 2017 10:20 GMT
#789
On August 05 2017 19:17 Parrek wrote:
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On August 05 2017 19:13 Penev wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:10 Charoisaur wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:09 Penev wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:05 Durnuu wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:
For you guys who saw 81,9% TY vs Stats, was it as close as here ?

It was mostly Stats fucking up the storms in games 1 and 2 and then waking up for the rest of the games. It was close but it wasn't back and forth like here

ok !

should we be allowed to think that the gap is sort of narrowing though ? In past days, you'd never get so many close 3-2 series (Special, ShoWTime, Neeb), not to mention Neeb vs sOs... Of course going full foreigner in the last game seems to still be a thing though.

I think it always has been around the same

the gap that is

except in the very early Steph & Nani period

nah 2014-15 the gap was so giant we saw players like Keen who were trash in korea come over and rek every foreigner.

that's true, foreigners lost all hope (and money) that period

but this 2 foreigners doing well but drop out anyway is nothing new


Not nearly this close with this many players. Two years ago Nerchio would have been wrecked early game 4 vs Dark and not go toe to toe multitasking, and he would have thrown game 3 later on in full foreigner style. A foreign performance like this would have been historical a couple years ago, but now it's great, but not entirely unexpected

I watched the game from the beginning. There was a dip in foreigner performance, in part due to the WCS system but there have always been foreigners who could beat Koreans
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
August 05 2017 10:20 GMT
#790
On August 05 2017 19:14 Heartland wrote:
I think definitely the gap has become smaller, but that is not because foreigners got better but because the Kespa infrastructure collapsed and Koreans play worse today.


It's both, but I think the bigger thing is the foreign scene getting better. Maybe you don't remember all sorts of games where Foreigners threw hard once they had any sort of lead and made really stupid mistakes. Or how low tier Koreans were unstoppable or how foreigners crumbled once the pressure was on, unlike Neeb even down 0-2. Or even how only one or two foreigners ever could even compete with mid tier Koreans and now we have like 6 or 7
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15961 Posts
August 05 2017 10:20 GMT
#791
On August 05 2017 19:18 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2017 19:17 Musicus wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:15 Elentos wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:13 raff100 wrote:
Showtime\Neeb\Seeral\Special did more than decently in this tournament. Foreignland can be proud of its players

Nerchio played well too. And given who iA and Scarlett played against, I don't think anyone has to be ashamed of their performance.

iA was way better than the score would tell for sure

I found Scarlett on the other hand mildly disappointing. Maybe 2018 is the right time to pull the Neeb/Classic move.

or pull the ByuN move and switch to terran
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
August 05 2017 10:20 GMT
#792
Man i don't enjoy zvz at all...
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 05 2017 10:20 GMT
#793
playing this mu would give me seizures
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 05 2017 10:20 GMT
#794
On August 05 2017 19:20 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2017 19:18 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:17 Musicus wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:15 Elentos wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:13 raff100 wrote:
Showtime\Neeb\Seeral\Special did more than decently in this tournament. Foreignland can be proud of its players

Nerchio played well too. And given who iA and Scarlett played against, I don't think anyone has to be ashamed of their performance.

iA was way better than the score would tell for sure

I found Scarlett on the other hand mildly disappointing. Maybe 2018 is the right time to pull the Neeb/Classic move.

or pull the ByuN move and switch to terran

Notice how nobody switched to zerg
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 05 2017 10:21 GMT
#795
On August 05 2017 19:18 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2017 19:17 Musicus wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:15 Elentos wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:13 raff100 wrote:
Showtime\Neeb\Seeral\Special did more than decently in this tournament. Foreignland can be proud of its players

Nerchio played well too. And given who iA and Scarlett played against, I don't think anyone has to be ashamed of their performance.

iA was way better than the score would tell for sure

I found Scarlett on the other hand mildly disappointing. Maybe 2018 is the right time to pull the Neeb/Classic move.

I love to cheer for Scarlett, but Elazer should've won that vote.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 05 2017 10:21 GMT
#796
well dark is dead
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
August 05 2017 10:21 GMT
#797
On August 05 2017 19:21 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2017 19:18 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:17 Musicus wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:15 Elentos wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:13 raff100 wrote:
Showtime\Neeb\Seeral\Special did more than decently in this tournament. Foreignland can be proud of its players

Nerchio played well too. And given who iA and Scarlett played against, I don't think anyone has to be ashamed of their performance.

iA was way better than the score would tell for sure

I found Scarlett on the other hand mildly disappointing. Maybe 2018 is the right time to pull the Neeb/Classic move.

I love to cheer for Scarlett, but Elazer should've won that vote.

and Classic
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
August 05 2017 10:21 GMT
#798
Nice hold by soO
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 05 2017 10:22 GMT
#799
how long was the game?

Artosis said 22 minutes for the series
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
August 05 2017 10:22 GMT
#800
On August 05 2017 19:21 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2017 19:18 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:17 Musicus wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:15 Elentos wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:13 raff100 wrote:
Showtime\Neeb\Seeral\Special did more than decently in this tournament. Foreignland can be proud of its players

Nerchio played well too. And given who iA and Scarlett played against, I don't think anyone has to be ashamed of their performance.

iA was way better than the score would tell for sure

I found Scarlett on the other hand mildly disappointing. Maybe 2018 is the right time to pull the Neeb/Classic move.

I love to cheer for Scarlett, but Elazer should've won that vote.

I agree, Mikolajwa was needed here. At least we'll have him at Blizzcon.
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