• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 01:31
CET 07:31
KST 15:31
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview1TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners11Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12
Community News
[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation10Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7
StarCraft 2
General
Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview [TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada Craziest Micro Moments Of All Time?
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle Brood War web app to calculate unit interactions [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BW General Discussion Terran 1:35 12 Gas Optimization
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1660 users

[GSL vs. The World] Quarter & Semi Finals - Page 40

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 38 39 40 41 42 70 Next
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 05 2017 10:17 GMT
#781
On August 05 2017 19:17 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2017 19:14 Heartland wrote:
I think definitely the gap has become smaller, but that is not because foreigners got better but because the Kespa infrastructure collapsed and Koreans play worse today.

I think it's both. Just looking at the games players like Neeb, Nerchio or Elazer are playing much cleaner than previous top foreigners.

Agreed
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
August 05 2017 10:17 GMT
#782
Lmao 13/12
ZvZ never disappoints
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
August 05 2017 10:18 GMT
#783
Dark knows he cant beat Soo in a macro game
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24235 Posts
August 05 2017 10:18 GMT
#784
On August 05 2017 19:17 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2017 19:15 Elentos wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:13 raff100 wrote:
Showtime\Neeb\Seeral\Special did more than decently in this tournament. Foreignland can be proud of its players

Nerchio played well too. And given who iA and Scarlett played against, I don't think anyone has to be ashamed of their performance.

iA was way better than the score would tell for sure

I found Scarlett on the other hand mildly disappointing. Maybe 2018 is the right time to pull the Neeb/Classic move.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
August 05 2017 10:18 GMT
#785
On August 05 2017 19:17 Durnuu wrote:
Lmao 13/12
ZvZ never disappoints

Finally we get a good series
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
August 05 2017 10:18 GMT
#786
Have they mentioned the 13/12 yet?
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24591 Posts
August 05 2017 10:19 GMT
#787
I basically agree with the fact that the Korean trained foreigners do well and play well, but that has always been the case. It's been the guys who went over for six months who were dangerous to Koreans.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
August 05 2017 10:19 GMT
#788
foreigners became more confident and got ride of their non koreans complex, back in the days some top foreigners just collapsed at one point for obvious reasons
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28503 Posts
August 05 2017 10:20 GMT
#789
On August 05 2017 19:17 Parrek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2017 19:13 Penev wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:10 Charoisaur wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:09 Penev wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:05 Durnuu wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:
For you guys who saw 81,9% TY vs Stats, was it as close as here ?

It was mostly Stats fucking up the storms in games 1 and 2 and then waking up for the rest of the games. It was close but it wasn't back and forth like here

ok !

should we be allowed to think that the gap is sort of narrowing though ? In past days, you'd never get so many close 3-2 series (Special, ShoWTime, Neeb), not to mention Neeb vs sOs... Of course going full foreigner in the last game seems to still be a thing though.

I think it always has been around the same

the gap that is

except in the very early Steph & Nani period

nah 2014-15 the gap was so giant we saw players like Keen who were trash in korea come over and rek every foreigner.

that's true, foreigners lost all hope (and money) that period

but this 2 foreigners doing well but drop out anyway is nothing new


Not nearly this close with this many players. Two years ago Nerchio would have been wrecked early game 4 vs Dark and not go toe to toe multitasking, and he would have thrown game 3 later on in full foreigner style. A foreign performance like this would have been historical a couple years ago, but now it's great, but not entirely unexpected

I watched the game from the beginning. There was a dip in foreigner performance, in part due to the WCS system but there have always been foreigners who could beat Koreans
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
August 05 2017 10:20 GMT
#790
On August 05 2017 19:14 Heartland wrote:
I think definitely the gap has become smaller, but that is not because foreigners got better but because the Kespa infrastructure collapsed and Koreans play worse today.


It's both, but I think the bigger thing is the foreign scene getting better. Maybe you don't remember all sorts of games where Foreigners threw hard once they had any sort of lead and made really stupid mistakes. Or how low tier Koreans were unstoppable or how foreigners crumbled once the pressure was on, unlike Neeb even down 0-2. Or even how only one or two foreigners ever could even compete with mid tier Koreans and now we have like 6 or 7
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16008 Posts
August 05 2017 10:20 GMT
#791
On August 05 2017 19:18 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2017 19:17 Musicus wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:15 Elentos wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:13 raff100 wrote:
Showtime\Neeb\Seeral\Special did more than decently in this tournament. Foreignland can be proud of its players

Nerchio played well too. And given who iA and Scarlett played against, I don't think anyone has to be ashamed of their performance.

iA was way better than the score would tell for sure

I found Scarlett on the other hand mildly disappointing. Maybe 2018 is the right time to pull the Neeb/Classic move.

or pull the ByuN move and switch to terran
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
August 05 2017 10:20 GMT
#792
Man i don't enjoy zvz at all...
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24235 Posts
August 05 2017 10:20 GMT
#793
playing this mu would give me seizures
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
August 05 2017 10:20 GMT
#794
On August 05 2017 19:20 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2017 19:18 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:17 Musicus wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:15 Elentos wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:13 raff100 wrote:
Showtime\Neeb\Seeral\Special did more than decently in this tournament. Foreignland can be proud of its players

Nerchio played well too. And given who iA and Scarlett played against, I don't think anyone has to be ashamed of their performance.

iA was way better than the score would tell for sure

I found Scarlett on the other hand mildly disappointing. Maybe 2018 is the right time to pull the Neeb/Classic move.

or pull the ByuN move and switch to terran

Notice how nobody switched to zerg
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 05 2017 10:21 GMT
#795
On August 05 2017 19:18 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2017 19:17 Musicus wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:15 Elentos wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:13 raff100 wrote:
Showtime\Neeb\Seeral\Special did more than decently in this tournament. Foreignland can be proud of its players

Nerchio played well too. And given who iA and Scarlett played against, I don't think anyone has to be ashamed of their performance.

iA was way better than the score would tell for sure

I found Scarlett on the other hand mildly disappointing. Maybe 2018 is the right time to pull the Neeb/Classic move.

I love to cheer for Scarlett, but Elazer should've won that vote.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 05 2017 10:21 GMT
#796
well dark is dead
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28503 Posts
August 05 2017 10:21 GMT
#797
On August 05 2017 19:21 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2017 19:18 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:17 Musicus wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:15 Elentos wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:13 raff100 wrote:
Showtime\Neeb\Seeral\Special did more than decently in this tournament. Foreignland can be proud of its players

Nerchio played well too. And given who iA and Scarlett played against, I don't think anyone has to be ashamed of their performance.

iA was way better than the score would tell for sure

I found Scarlett on the other hand mildly disappointing. Maybe 2018 is the right time to pull the Neeb/Classic move.

I love to cheer for Scarlett, but Elazer should've won that vote.

and Classic
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
August 05 2017 10:21 GMT
#798
Nice hold by soO
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 05 2017 10:22 GMT
#799
how long was the game?

Artosis said 22 minutes for the series
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24235 Posts
August 05 2017 10:22 GMT
#800
On August 05 2017 19:21 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2017 19:18 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:17 Musicus wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:15 Elentos wrote:
On August 05 2017 19:13 raff100 wrote:
Showtime\Neeb\Seeral\Special did more than decently in this tournament. Foreignland can be proud of its players

Nerchio played well too. And given who iA and Scarlett played against, I don't think anyone has to be ashamed of their performance.

iA was way better than the score would tell for sure

I found Scarlett on the other hand mildly disappointing. Maybe 2018 is the right time to pull the Neeb/Classic move.

I love to cheer for Scarlett, but Elazer should've won that vote.

I agree, Mikolajwa was needed here. At least we'll have him at Blizzcon.
Prev 1 38 39 40 41 42 70 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 29m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
BeSt 1473
Leta 638
EffOrt 144
Bale 53
ivOry 12
Icarus 8
Dota 2
XaKoH 716
monkeys_forever454
League of Legends
JimRising 616
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0220
Mew2King75
Other Games
summit1g20019
NeuroSwarm83
kaitlyn37
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick706
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21492
League of Legends
• Lourlo801
• Stunt480
Other Games
• Scarra1158
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
3h 29m
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
5h 29m
GuMiho vs MaNa
herO vs ShoWTimE
Classic vs TBD
WardiTV Korean Royale
5h 29m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 3h
RSL Revival
1d 3h
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
1d 5h
Cure vs Reynor
IPSL
1d 10h
ZZZero vs rasowy
Napoleon vs KameZerg
BSL 21
1d 13h
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
[ Show More ]
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
BSL 21
2 days
JDConan vs Semih
Dragon vs Dienmax
Tech vs NewOcean
TerrOr vs Artosis
IPSL
2 days
Dewalt vs WolFix
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
BSL: GosuLeague
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
BSL: GosuLeague
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-07
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
RSL Revival: Season 3
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.