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On August 05 2017 19:05 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2017 19:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:
For you guys who saw 81,9% TY vs Stats, was it as close as here ? It was mostly Stats fucking up the storms in games 1 and 2 and then waking up for the rest of the games. It was close but it wasn't back and forth like here
ok !
should we be allowed to think that the gap is sort of narrowing though ? In past days, you'd never get so many close 3-2 series (Special, ShoWTime, Neeb), not to mention Neeb vs sOs... Of course going full foreigner in the last game seems to still be a thing though.
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On August 05 2017 19:06 Yiome wrote:Decent performance from foreigners overall Although the 3-2 curse is strong 
the only korean who lost to a foreigner was sOs who was only here because of the popularity vote.
Decent performance indeed. Gap is closing!
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On August 05 2017 19:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2017 19:05 Durnuu wrote:On August 05 2017 19:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:
For you guys who saw 81,9% TY vs Stats, was it as close as here ? It was mostly Stats fucking up the storms in games 1 and 2 and then waking up for the rest of the games. It was close but it wasn't back and forth like here ok ! should we be allowed to think that the gap is sort of narrowing though ? In past days, you'd never get so many close 3-2 series (Special, ShoWTime, Neeb), not to mention Neeb vs sOs... Of course going full foreigner in the last game seems to still be a thing though.
without jet lag foreigners would have 3-0 every korean instead of losing 2-3
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Stats and TY have obviously been contaminated by their foreign team, they are no longer pure Koreans, explains the slump
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people say neeb could be the best foreigner, and strangely this loss convinces me more of that than any of his tournament wins... even kespa cup.
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On August 05 2017 19:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2017 19:05 Durnuu wrote:On August 05 2017 19:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:
For you guys who saw 81,9% TY vs Stats, was it as close as here ? It was mostly Stats fucking up the storms in games 1 and 2 and then waking up for the rest of the games. It was close but it wasn't back and forth like here ok ! should we be allowed to think that the gap is sort of narrowing though ? In past days, you'd never get so many close 3-2 series (Special, ShoWTime, Neeb), not to mention Neeb vs sOs... Of course going full foreigner in the last game seems to still be a thing though.
I think it always has been around the same
the gap that is
except in the very early Steph & Nani period
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On August 05 2017 19:08 Makro wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2017 19:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 05 2017 19:05 Durnuu wrote:On August 05 2017 19:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:
For you guys who saw 81,9% TY vs Stats, was it as close as here ? It was mostly Stats fucking up the storms in games 1 and 2 and then waking up for the rest of the games. It was close but it wasn't back and forth like here ok ! should we be allowed to think that the gap is sort of narrowing though ? In past days, you'd never get so many close 3-2 series (Special, ShoWTime, Neeb), not to mention Neeb vs sOs... Of course going full foreigner in the last game seems to still be a thing though. without jet lag foreigners would have 3-0 every korean instead of losing 2-3
Neeb and Special are living in Korea btw
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I got this feeling that Inno is going to stomp soO in another finals.
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On August 05 2017 19:09 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2017 19:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 05 2017 19:05 Durnuu wrote:On August 05 2017 19:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:
For you guys who saw 81,9% TY vs Stats, was it as close as here ? It was mostly Stats fucking up the storms in games 1 and 2 and then waking up for the rest of the games. It was close but it wasn't back and forth like here ok ! should we be allowed to think that the gap is sort of narrowing though ? In past days, you'd never get so many close 3-2 series (Special, ShoWTime, Neeb), not to mention Neeb vs sOs... Of course going full foreigner in the last game seems to still be a thing though. I think it always has been around the same the gap that is except in the very early Steph & Nani period
nah 2014-15 the gap was so giant we saw players like Keen who were trash in korea come over and rek every foreigner.
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On August 05 2017 19:09 Morbidius wrote:
I got this feeling that Inno is going to stomp soO in another finals.
it's the future, you see
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they are doing semis today too? That is cuurazeeeeeee
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On August 05 2017 19:09 ParksonVN wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2017 19:08 Makro wrote:On August 05 2017 19:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 05 2017 19:05 Durnuu wrote:On August 05 2017 19:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:
For you guys who saw 81,9% TY vs Stats, was it as close as here ? It was mostly Stats fucking up the storms in games 1 and 2 and then waking up for the rest of the games. It was close but it wasn't back and forth like here ok ! should we be allowed to think that the gap is sort of narrowing though ? In past days, you'd never get so many close 3-2 series (Special, ShoWTime, Neeb), not to mention Neeb vs sOs... Of course going full foreigner in the last game seems to still be a thing though. without jet lag foreigners would have 3-0 every korean instead of losing 2-3 Neeb and Special are living in Korea btw
When did Neeb move back? I thought he has not been in Korea for a long time.
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On August 05 2017 19:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2017 19:05 Durnuu wrote:On August 05 2017 19:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:
For you guys who saw 81,9% TY vs Stats, was it as close as here ? It was mostly Stats fucking up the storms in games 1 and 2 and then waking up for the rest of the games. It was close but it wasn't back and forth like here ok ! should we be allowed to think that the gap is sort of narrowing though ? In past days, you'd never get so many close 3-2 series (Special, ShoWTime, Neeb), not to mention Neeb vs sOs... Of course going full foreigner in the last game seems to still be a thing though.
I think Neeb has elevated above full foreigner now. He didn't tilt the last game. He was just scouted and couldn't make it work.
Also, don't forget Serral with another close 2-3
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On August 05 2017 19:10 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2017 19:09 Penev wrote:On August 05 2017 19:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 05 2017 19:05 Durnuu wrote:On August 05 2017 19:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:
For you guys who saw 81,9% TY vs Stats, was it as close as here ? It was mostly Stats fucking up the storms in games 1 and 2 and then waking up for the rest of the games. It was close but it wasn't back and forth like here ok ! should we be allowed to think that the gap is sort of narrowing though ? In past days, you'd never get so many close 3-2 series (Special, ShoWTime, Neeb), not to mention Neeb vs sOs... Of course going full foreigner in the last game seems to still be a thing though. I think it always has been around the same the gap that is except in the very early Steph & Nani period nah 2014-15 the gap was so giant we saw players like Keen who were trash in korea come over and rek every foreigner.
We also saw Snute beat the GSL and SSL champions back to back in 2015. I do think we like to overstate the gap.
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On August 05 2017 19:10 Heartland wrote:
they are doing semis today too? That is cuurazeeeeeee
They are, that's why it started earlier
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On August 05 2017 19:11 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2017 19:10 Charoisaur wrote:On August 05 2017 19:09 Penev wrote:On August 05 2017 19:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 05 2017 19:05 Durnuu wrote:On August 05 2017 19:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:
For you guys who saw 81,9% TY vs Stats, was it as close as here ? It was mostly Stats fucking up the storms in games 1 and 2 and then waking up for the rest of the games. It was close but it wasn't back and forth like here ok ! should we be allowed to think that the gap is sort of narrowing though ? In past days, you'd never get so many close 3-2 series (Special, ShoWTime, Neeb), not to mention Neeb vs sOs... Of course going full foreigner in the last game seems to still be a thing though. I think it always has been around the same the gap that is except in the very early Steph & Nani period nah 2014-15 the gap was so giant we saw players like Keen who were trash in korea come over and rek every foreigner. We also saw Snute beat the GSL and SSL champions back to back in 2015. I do think we like to overstate the gap.
Lilbow vs Life left its mark on people's minds
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On August 05 2017 19:11 Parrek wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2017 19:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 05 2017 19:05 Durnuu wrote:On August 05 2017 19:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:
For you guys who saw 81,9% TY vs Stats, was it as close as here ? It was mostly Stats fucking up the storms in games 1 and 2 and then waking up for the rest of the games. It was close but it wasn't back and forth like here ok ! should we be allowed to think that the gap is sort of narrowing though ? In past days, you'd never get so many close 3-2 series (Special, ShoWTime, Neeb), not to mention Neeb vs sOs... Of course going full foreigner in the last game seems to still be a thing though. I think Neeb has elevated above full foreigner now. He didn't tilt the last game. He was just scouted and couldn't make it work. Also, don't forget Serral with another close 2-3
you're right of course ! even Nerchio didn't play as bad a series as many people gave him credit for
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On August 05 2017 19:11 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2017 19:11 Elentos wrote:On August 05 2017 19:10 Charoisaur wrote:On August 05 2017 19:09 Penev wrote:On August 05 2017 19:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 05 2017 19:05 Durnuu wrote:On August 05 2017 19:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:
For you guys who saw 81,9% TY vs Stats, was it as close as here ? It was mostly Stats fucking up the storms in games 1 and 2 and then waking up for the rest of the games. It was close but it wasn't back and forth like here ok ! should we be allowed to think that the gap is sort of narrowing though ? In past days, you'd never get so many close 3-2 series (Special, ShoWTime, Neeb), not to mention Neeb vs sOs... Of course going full foreigner in the last game seems to still be a thing though. I think it always has been around the same the gap that is except in the very early Steph & Nani period nah 2014-15 the gap was so giant we saw players like Keen who were trash in korea come over and rek every foreigner. We also saw Snute beat the GSL and SSL champions back to back in 2015. I do think we like to overstate the gap. Lilbow vs Life left its mark on people's minds
Because of what Lilbow said, though. Dark took care of Neeb and Elazer at Blizzcon just as quickly, but it never had the same impact.
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On August 05 2017 19:10 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2017 19:09 Penev wrote:On August 05 2017 19:07 [PkF] Wire wrote:On August 05 2017 19:05 Durnuu wrote:On August 05 2017 19:04 [PkF] Wire wrote:
For you guys who saw 81,9% TY vs Stats, was it as close as here ? It was mostly Stats fucking up the storms in games 1 and 2 and then waking up for the rest of the games. It was close but it wasn't back and forth like here ok ! should we be allowed to think that the gap is sort of narrowing though ? In past days, you'd never get so many close 3-2 series (Special, ShoWTime, Neeb), not to mention Neeb vs sOs... Of course going full foreigner in the last game seems to still be a thing though. I think it always has been around the same the gap that is except in the very early Steph & Nani period nah 2014-15 the gap was so giant we saw players like Keen who were trash in korea come over and rek every foreigner.
that's true, foreigners lost all hope (and money) that period
but this 2 foreigners doing well but drop out anyway is nothing new
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On August 05 2017 19:08 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2017 19:06 Yiome wrote:Decent performance from foreigners overall Although the 3-2 curse is strong the only korean who lost to a foreigner was sOs who was only here because of the popularity vote. Decent performance indeed. Gap is closing!
You know who else generally doesn't win vs Stats and TY? Koreans.
That was a better showing than expected for foreigners (including Iasonu, Serral and Showtime).
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