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Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2371 Posts
June 19 2017 16:23 GMT
#661
wtf? (^_^)
ByuuN
Profile Joined November 2016
Poland678 Posts
June 19 2017 16:23 GMT
#662
ZvZ cheesefest inc.
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
June 19 2017 16:23 GMT
#663
RYÖKÄLE MODE ACTIVATED
why even
xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
June 19 2017 16:23 GMT
#664
serral is so good
Life - forever the Legend in my heart
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-19 16:23:49
June 19 2017 16:23 GMT
#665
That was some awful Zergling and Baneling control.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
June 19 2017 16:23 GMT
#666
This Serral kid...
Neosteel Enthusiast
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
June 19 2017 16:23 GMT
#667
That was some SoO zvz bullshit magic
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
June 19 2017 16:23 GMT
#668
On June 20 2017 01:18 opisska wrote:
Why don't we just have people switch races and play another series to avoid any imbalance?

That's why the only balance whine i treat seriously is Alex007's because he is, after all, best random EU.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 19 2017 16:24 GMT
#669
On June 20 2017 01:20 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 01:19 Fango wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:14 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:13 Fango wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:11 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:07 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 20 2017 00:59 Diabolique wrote:
Can someone explain me, how can 100k people watch CSGO? What is interesting on watching it? Playing it is OK, but watching??? While watching SC2 is so nice and only 20k watch it?

I understand it with CS GO.
I don't understand it with LoL/DotA
at all...

It's all about building a fanbase which is in love with teams/players. Even if the game gets worse/boring, a lot of people will still watch. Sc2 was always kinda bad at that (creating a following behind players)


You say that but I'm watching cs because its legit more interesting than the sc2 right now. And there's much less hassle with imbalanced races making it almost all skill dependant.

imbalance only exists in the minds of salty players who want something to blame


Yh yh BL/infestor, blink allins, hellbat pushes, reaper rushes, adept allins. These things where all balanced. Blizzard nerfing and buffing things makes no change cuz everything is always balanced

im sure all of these have been the things keeping you from winning games below 6k mmr


I never said they effected me personally. We're talking esports. They effected most pro matches at their imbalance peak

And btw the race switching thing if you think something is good. I switched from T to P when LoTV came out because I thought adapts were broken lol
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33437 Posts
June 19 2017 16:24 GMT
#670
Serral is gonna Dark Elazer :'(
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
June 19 2017 16:25 GMT
#671
On June 20 2017 01:24 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 01:20 Ej_ wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:19 Fango wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:14 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:13 Fango wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:11 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:07 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 20 2017 00:59 Diabolique wrote:
Can someone explain me, how can 100k people watch CSGO? What is interesting on watching it? Playing it is OK, but watching??? While watching SC2 is so nice and only 20k watch it?

I understand it with CS GO.
I don't understand it with LoL/DotA
at all...

It's all about building a fanbase which is in love with teams/players. Even if the game gets worse/boring, a lot of people will still watch. Sc2 was always kinda bad at that (creating a following behind players)


You say that but I'm watching cs because its legit more interesting than the sc2 right now. And there's much less hassle with imbalanced races making it almost all skill dependant.

imbalance only exists in the minds of salty players who want something to blame


Yh yh BL/infestor, blink allins, hellbat pushes, reaper rushes, adept allins. These things where all balanced. Blizzard nerfing and buffing things makes no change cuz everything is always balanced

im sure all of these have been the things keeping you from winning games below 6k mmr


I never said they effected me personally. We're talking esports. They effected most pro matches at their imbalance peak

And btw the race switching thing if you think something is good. I switched from T to P when LoTV came out because I thought adapts were broken lol

Did you win KeSPA cup?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7132 Posts
June 19 2017 16:25 GMT
#672
LETS GO SERRAL! HOCKEY GIFS INCOMING TONIGHT!
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 19 2017 16:27 GMT
#673
On June 20 2017 01:25 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 01:24 Fango wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:20 Ej_ wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:19 Fango wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:14 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:13 Fango wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:11 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:07 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 20 2017 00:59 Diabolique wrote:
Can someone explain me, how can 100k people watch CSGO? What is interesting on watching it? Playing it is OK, but watching??? While watching SC2 is so nice and only 20k watch it?

I understand it with CS GO.
I don't understand it with LoL/DotA
at all...

It's all about building a fanbase which is in love with teams/players. Even if the game gets worse/boring, a lot of people will still watch. Sc2 was always kinda bad at that (creating a following behind players)


You say that but I'm watching cs because its legit more interesting than the sc2 right now. And there's much less hassle with imbalanced races making it almost all skill dependant.

imbalance only exists in the minds of salty players who want something to blame


Yh yh BL/infestor, blink allins, hellbat pushes, reaper rushes, adept allins. These things where all balanced. Blizzard nerfing and buffing things makes no change cuz everything is always balanced

im sure all of these have been the things keeping you from winning games below 6k mmr


I never said they effected me personally. We're talking esports. They effected most pro matches at their imbalance peak

And btw the race switching thing if you think something is good. I switched from T to P when LoTV came out because I thought adapts were broken lol

Did you win KeSPA cup?


Wtf does that have to do with anything. My point was obvious imbalances (examples being blink allins etc) can turn of viewers. I'm not saying neeb doesn't deserve to win matches (not here anyway hehe)
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
June 19 2017 16:27 GMT
#674
I don't want Serral to win. His talking makes me nervous. He is such a nice guy up to the moment when he starts talking. His voice is very weird.

Go Diego!
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
June 19 2017 16:28 GMT
#675
On June 20 2017 01:27 Diabolique wrote:
I don't want Serral to win. His talking makes me nervous. He is such a nice guy up to the moment when he starts talking. His voice is very weird.

Go Diego!

He is finnish, what did you expect ?
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10082 Posts
June 19 2017 16:28 GMT
#676
i just remembered Dark vs Elazer....
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
June 19 2017 16:28 GMT
#677
On June 20 2017 01:28 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 01:27 Diabolique wrote:
I don't want Serral to win. His talking makes me nervous. He is such a nice guy up to the moment when he starts talking. His voice is very weird.

Go Diego!

He is finnish, what did you expect ?

The accent is not a problem.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
June 19 2017 16:29 GMT
#678
On June 20 2017 01:28 Topin wrote:
i just remembered Dark vs Elazer....


Dark vs serral was almost as bad lol
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15982 Posts
June 19 2017 16:29 GMT
#679
On June 20 2017 01:24 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 01:20 Ej_ wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:19 Fango wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:14 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:13 Fango wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:11 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On June 20 2017 01:07 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 20 2017 00:59 Diabolique wrote:
Can someone explain me, how can 100k people watch CSGO? What is interesting on watching it? Playing it is OK, but watching??? While watching SC2 is so nice and only 20k watch it?

I understand it with CS GO.
I don't understand it with LoL/DotA
at all...

It's all about building a fanbase which is in love with teams/players. Even if the game gets worse/boring, a lot of people will still watch. Sc2 was always kinda bad at that (creating a following behind players)


You say that but I'm watching cs because its legit more interesting than the sc2 right now. And there's much less hassle with imbalanced races making it almost all skill dependant.

imbalance only exists in the minds of salty players who want something to blame


Yh yh BL/infestor, blink allins, hellbat pushes, reaper rushes, adept allins. These things where all balanced. Blizzard nerfing and buffing things makes no change cuz everything is always balanced

im sure all of these have been the things keeping you from winning games below 6k mmr


I never said they effected me personally. We're talking esports. They effected most pro matches at their imbalance peak

And btw the race switching thing if you think something is good. I switched from T to P when LoTV came out because I thought adapts were broken lol

even at the pro level balance is overrated. Every time someone wins with adepts people say imba imba but the statistics say that the matchup is fine. In the end the better player wins most of the time. The only times when balance was a serious problem was early wol terran, BL/Infestor and Blink era.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
June 19 2017 16:29 GMT
#680
On June 20 2017 01:27 Diabolique wrote:
I don't want Serral to win. His talking makes me nervous. He is such a nice guy up to the moment when he starts talking. His voice is very weird.

Go Diego!


What?! he has the greatest accent on planet earth, how can you hate fin-english
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