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#6 Team Acer - score: 829 (+765), users: 6, top joined in year: 2013, top country: United States
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#10 ROOT Gaming - score: 117 (+10), users: 1, top joined in year: 2011, top country: United States
#11 Samsung Galaxy KHAN - score: 66 (+61), users: 3, top joined in year: 2014, top country: United Kingdom
#12 CJ Entus - score: 60 (+60), users: 5, fav player: ByuN, top joined in year: 2012, top country: Chile
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#14 Millenium - score: 47 (+2), users: 2, top joined in year: 2011, top country: France
#15 Team Property - score: 46 (+46), users: 1, top joined in year: 2009, top country: Germany
#16 Axiom Gaming - score: 5 (+5), users: 1, top joined in year: 2013, top country: England
#17 Dead Pixels - score: 0 (+0), users: 1, top joined in year: 2014, top country: Germany

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#1 None - score: 13408 (+9658), users: 233, fav team: KT Rolster, top joined in year: 2013, top country: United States
#2 Zest - score: 2338 (+778), users: 7, fav team: KT Rolster, top joined in year: 2015, top country: Croatia
#3 ByuN - score: 2298 (+1646), users: 8, fav team: Team Liquid, top joined in year: 2010, top country: France
#4 Dark - score: 1164 (+1038), users: 5, fav team: Team Liquid, top joined in year: 2013, top country: Netherlands
#5 TY - score: 640 (+384), users: 5, fav team: Jin Air Green Wings, top joined in year: 2011, top country: Germany

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#2 2010 - score: 3733 (+2883), users: 47, fav team: SK Telecom T1, fav player: ByuN, top country: France
#3 2011 - score: 3326 (+2087), users: 55, fav team: Jin Air Green Wings, fav player: TY, top country: Poland
#4 2015 - score: 3070 (+806), users: 16, fav team: KT Rolster, fav player: Zest, top country: Canada
#5 2012 - score: 1935 (+1493), users: 37, fav team: Team Acer, fav player: ByuN, top country: Iraq
#6 2016 - score: 991 (+400), users: 22, fav team: KT Rolster, fav player: Zest, top country: Korea (South)
#7 2014 - score: 954 (+563), users: 23, fav team: Jin Air Green Wings, fav player: Zest, top country: United States
#8 2008 - score: 226 (+195), users: 4, fav team: Samsung Galaxy KHAN, top country: Hong Kong
#9 2009 - score: 184 (+163), users: 16, fav team: Team Property, top country: Germany
#10 2004 - score: 111 (+111), users: 2, fav team: Jin Air Green Wings, top country: Poland
#11 2003 - score: 54 (+54), users: 1, top country: United States
#12 2005 - score: 46 (+46), users: 3, fav team: SK Telecom T1, fav player: Dark, top country: Belgium
#13 2002 - score: 24 (+24), users: 2, top country: Norway
#14 2007 - score: 5 (+5), users: 2, top country: France

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+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
Includes posts containing the keywords ShoWTimE, Elazer, Dark, Neeblet, TY, ByuN, Zest, Stats, and Neeb (case insensitive).
Score: 6107 (+0)

ArtyK Friday, Nov 04 11:42pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
And then ByuN practiced with showtime, ez

Life4ever Friday, Nov 04 11:42pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Zest lost to TY 0:3 in kespa cup Zest beat byun twice in groupstage. Also byun lost t...

Poopi Friday, Nov 04 11:43pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
I really really hope KR protoss still play greedy+harass (since ByuN has obviously fi...

Olli Friday, Nov 04 11:44pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Zest 4-1'd ByuN less than a month ago. He's the best PvTer on planet earth, while Byu...

Poopi Friday, Nov 04 11:46pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Pretty sure Zest 2-0ed then 2-1ed (or the other way around) which REALLY isn't the sa...

The_Templar Saturday, Nov 05 12:43am GMT (GMT+00:00):
I picked showtime.

ZigguratOfUr Saturday, Nov 05 1:26am GMT (GMT+00:00):
O_O 87% voted for Showtime.

lastride Saturday, Nov 05 11:50am GMT (GMT+00:00):
His awful series against Showtime denied us TY vs Dear and Byun vs Elazer

sharkie Saturday, Nov 05 1:58pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
How did it deny us dear vs ty? Have you even watched the dear games? Showtime lost to...

Topin Saturday, Nov 05 4:51pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
i just saw Elazer vs ShoWTimE and it was amazingly played by Elazer. G1 and G2 were g...


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Includes posts containing the keywords Prediction and Predictions (case insensitive).
Score: 202 (+0)

Musicus Tuesday, Nov 01 7:21pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Prediction: ShoWTimE 3:1 Elazer Neeb 1:3 Dark TY 3:2 ByuN Stats 3:2 Zest ShoWTimE 2:3...

Elentos Tuesday, Nov 01 7:53pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Not an actual prediction, but how I would love it to go: ShoWTimE 3-2 Elazer Dark 3-1...

Musicus Tuesday, Nov 01 7:56pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Pretty close to my actual prediction

Elentos Tuesday, Nov 01 7:57pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
If I posted my actual prediction the universe would immediately initiate measures to ...

AbouSV Tuesday, Nov 01 9:02pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Prediction : ShoWTimE 3:2 Elazer - Hard to predict given how they both played last we...

ZigguratOfUr Wednesday, Nov 02 8:25pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Is this your prediction? That Elazer will defeat Showtime? At least we know that Nerc...

Poopi Friday, Nov 04 9:06pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
I say there is one. My prediction is that Dark will get shat on by either Neeb or Ela...

Soularion Friday, Nov 04 9:53pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Neeb's prediction was far less off than, say, Elazer

DJHelium Friday, Nov 04 10:01pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
What a sick prediction! edit: altough it wasn't the mechanics. So half wrong


+ Show Spoiler [SigBet] +
Includes posts containing the keywords SigBet and SigBets (case insensitive).
Score: 121 (+0)

Sakat Wednesday, Nov 02 5:31pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
How about a sigbet? If Elazer beats Showtime you have my sig for 3 months, and if Sho...

Makro Friday, Nov 04 9:14pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
jesus guys we are witnessing one of the biggest sigbet of this blizzcon Poopi the 29 ...

opisska Friday, Nov 04 9:15pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Great. I hereby declare the previous unending sigbet negotiations with the other guy ...

Poopi Friday, Nov 04 9:16pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Deal. My first sigbet ever haha. The odds won't ever be better for me anyways so I mi...

Poopi Friday, Nov 04 10:07pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Yeah of course, tomorrow is a win-win for me . If Elazer win I win the sigbet, if he ...

opisska Friday, Nov 04 10:08pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
It's also win-win for me, either I win the sigbet, or I will get a Pole in finals. Ev...


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Includes posts containing the keywords PassionBet and PassionBets (case insensitive).
Score: 0 (+0)


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Includes posts containing the keywords Protoss (case insensitive).
Score: 4238 (+0)

Sakkreth Friday, Nov 04 11:32pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
I just hope Byun wins this blizzcon. And yes I am protoss player.

TheDougler Friday, Nov 04 11:33pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
I'd be stoked for either Dark vs Byun, or Elazer vs Protoss (preferably Zest) for the...

Poopi Friday, Nov 04 11:36pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
He'll face a protoss in the semi finals don't hope for too much. However if he can pr...

Poopi Friday, Nov 04 11:43pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
I really really hope KR protoss still play greedy+harass (since ByuN has obviously fi...

Ej_ Friday, Nov 04 11:54pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
it was just as bad when Protoss could take 6:30 3rd and make stalkers on every map th...

Elentos Saturday, Nov 05 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00):
It's okay a couple of times. But not in every game from every Protoss. Also the games...

Poopi Saturday, Nov 05 12:08am GMT (GMT+00:00):
In WoL I hated protoss the worst, so I decided to take out their soul with my builds....

Fanatic-Templar Saturday, Nov 05 12:50am GMT (GMT+00:00):
Next season of WCS needs to exchange spots so every Korean Protoss is replaced with a...

Poopi Saturday, Nov 05 1:25am GMT (GMT+00:00):
I think the fact that Zest lost didn't help at all. Hype killer as expected, Stats is...

Poopi Saturday, Nov 05 1:28am GMT (GMT+00:00):
They didn't get the memo he got 3-0ed by Elazer recently. Protoss always beat Terran ...


+ Show Spoiler [Terran] +
Includes posts containing the keywords Terran (case insensitive).
Score: 3063 (+0)

ShadowReaver Friday, Nov 04 11:34pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Best Terran of 2016! what a statement

D-light Friday, Nov 04 11:35pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Expected so much more from TY. Byun best terran of 16 lol.

ArtyK Friday, Nov 04 11:35pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
So ByuN wins GSL, all eyes are on him, he becomes supposedly predictable, and he stil...

Elentos Friday, Nov 04 11:35pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Best Terran of 2016 lost to Losira in the WESG qualifiers Title revoked, progamer lic...

Elentos Friday, Nov 04 11:42pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
TY knows all his builds and tendencies inside out. It's easier for him to prepare for...

Poopi Saturday, Nov 05 12:03am GMT (GMT+00:00):
Terran always the victims

KeksX Saturday, Nov 05 12:19am GMT (GMT+00:00):
Q1: just feedback: ultralisk cripples terran so much, friends can't keep up, happy to...

Fanatic-Templar Saturday, Nov 05 12:50am GMT (GMT+00:00):
Next season of WCS needs to exchange spots so every Korean Protoss is replaced with a...

Poopi Saturday, Nov 05 1:28am GMT (GMT+00:00):
They didn't get the memo he got 3-0ed by Elazer recently. Protoss always beat Terran ...

Sif_ Saturday, Nov 05 3:16pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
I mean, its BLIZZCON... there's an insane amout of content and stuff to do in 2 insan...


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Includes posts containing the keywords Zerg (case insensitive).
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Welmu Friday, Nov 04 10:12pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Disruptors are pretty awful in a lot of situations vs Zerg, in king sejong disruptor ...

The_Red_Viper Friday, Nov 04 10:16pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Yes he is, we would need a second top tier zerg

Ej_ Friday, Nov 04 10:19pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Fun fact: the first professional game of Starcraft (and really of any video game at a...

Poopi Friday, Nov 04 10:28pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
But I like Stephano. It's just that MKP was better and more deserving, plus terran mi...

Ej_ Friday, Nov 04 11:56pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
MICRO BATTLE you mean zerg watching forcefields and blink slowly kill them before hive

eviltomahawk Saturday, Nov 05 12:05am GMT (GMT+00:00):
So the dev team actually did seriously consider adding Goliaths back (and another Zer...

Hider Saturday, Nov 05 12:25am GMT (GMT+00:00):
Sc2 doesn't really need more units. Just design of all the stupid shit we have right ...

Fanatic-Templar Saturday, Nov 05 12:50am GMT (GMT+00:00):
Next season of WCS needs to exchange spots so every Korean Protoss is replaced with a...

Penev Saturday, Nov 05 12:50am GMT (GMT+00:00):
except for the polish one zerg that is obviously

OsaX Nymloth Saturday, Nov 05 1:12am GMT (GMT+00:00):
Don't underestimate the power of Polish zerg


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Sif_ Saturday, Nov 05 2:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Crap, got a wedding to attend today right at the time the semis are about to start......

The_Red_Viper Saturday, Nov 05 3:02pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
How many viewers will we get today? I think max yesterday was at around 40k. Blizzcon...

DickMcFanny Saturday, Nov 05 3:10pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Not even the Blizzcon attendees really seemed to care, loads of empty seats.

The_Red_Viper Saturday, Nov 05 3:13pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Yeah kinda depressing tbh, at least at Blizzcon i thought we will get huge stream num...

Sif_ Saturday, Nov 05 3:16pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
I mean, its BLIZZCON... there's an insane amout of content and stuff to do in 2 insan...

The_Red_Viper Saturday, Nov 05 3:32pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
The idea of wcs also was to get "good" viewer numbers because people can cheer for th...

Poopi Saturday, Nov 05 3:37pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Maybe it would have been even worse without the new WCS system? Like 30k or idk. Hard...

The_Red_Viper Saturday, Nov 05 4:04pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
I actually think it was great, but it wasn't a good wcs system because it was more li...

Elentos Saturday, Nov 05 4:22pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
I wonder how many potential Blizzcon viewers the matchfixing scandals - and specifica...

Elentos Saturday, Nov 05 4:39pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
I wasn't really talking about casual viewers. If you're losing casual viewership the ...


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Score: 3017 (+0)

Poopi Saturday, Nov 05 3:20pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Problem ain't WCS that much, more like that people prefer flavor of the month casual ...

DickMcFanny Saturday, Nov 05 3:21pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Man TB is such a gift to our community, his KOTH was more exciting to me than the act...

Ej_ Saturday, Nov 05 3:22pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
no, it's WCS, Apollo even flew to Korea and discontinued Proleague

The_Red_Viper Saturday, Nov 05 3:32pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
The idea of wcs also was to get "good" viewer numbers because people can cheer for th...

Poopi Saturday, Nov 05 3:37pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Maybe it would have been even worse without the new WCS system? Like 30k or idk. Hard...

Parser Saturday, Nov 05 3:42pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
I do not think WCS system does affect viewers number. The point is that the game is 6...

The_Red_Viper Saturday, Nov 05 3:43pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Ok i will repeat what i always say: These kind of things have multiple reasons ofc, n...

virpi Saturday, Nov 05 3:58pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
I actually think that the initial WCS system was pretty neat. People like countries, ...

opisska Saturday, Nov 05 4:01pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Viper, you need to stop blabbering about the WCS system and post a passion thing for ...

The_Red_Viper Saturday, Nov 05 4:04pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
I actually think it was great, but it wasn't a good wcs system because it was more li...


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Score: 1987 (+0)

The_Red_Viper Friday, Nov 04 7:43pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Here is how Blizzcon will go down (more or less), it is known: We open with the talen...

ZigguratOfUr Friday, Nov 04 7:52pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Add the #IMadeThis tag and you'll be first for sure. Also it's kinda uncanny how you ...


+ Show Spoiler [#GiftPoints] +
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Score: 5 (+0)

ZigguratOfUr Friday, Nov 04 4:54pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
The #GiftPoints feature exists for a reason.



+ Show Spoiler [Most Passionate Posts] +
#1 with 1971.4 points - The_Red_Viper Friday, Nov 04 7:43pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Here is how Blizzcon will go down (more or less), it is known: We open with the talent and expert couch. Everybody is enthusiastic, talks a bit about the tournament, the playe...

#2 with 302.2 points - Poopi Friday, Nov 04 3:48pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
The cool thing about the bracket being relatively bad is that it makes for a fucking good ro8 xD. A nice starter with ShoWTimE vs Elazer: a man who 2-0ed two top koreans + Sho...

#3 with 282.8 points - Elentos Thursday, Nov 03 5:42pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Most of the time, build wise Stats is pretty much the most standard Protoss you could imagine. Not super gimmicky, but solid and conservative and with pretty much all traits t...

#4 with 181 points - Elentos Thursday, Nov 03 9:37pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
You didn't misrepresent TY's TvP specifically. Here are the offline TvP winrates of all Terrans who made a top 8 in Korea this year (I'd have taken online + offline but the di...

#5 with 169.5 points - Thaniri Friday, Nov 04 11:31pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
I'll be complaining about tankivacs: + Show Spoiler + Game 1: No-one is willing to take a head-on engagement because of attacker's advantage in TvT. There were a total of 3 'b...

#6 with 164 points - FrkFrJss Thursday, Nov 03 8:22pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
To be fair, Neeb was also known to choke quite heavily. A person's winrate does generally tell how good that person is in a given matchup. It is true that Dark has performed v...

#7 with 133 points - opisska Thursday, Nov 03 4:50pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
I was thinking about what do I actually know about these players from the top of my head - about how the play mainly. Interestingly, I know absolutely nothing about Stats. I k...

#8 with 128.8 points - opisska Thursday, Nov 03 11:49am GMT (GMT+00:00):
While I must admit I was never really good in this hype business (and the whole photoshop thing kinda eludes me, even though I am someone who uses photoshop quite regularly fo...

#9 with 121.8 points - Biscuittzz Tuesday, Nov 01 11:23am GMT (GMT+00:00):
While your point is correct that if the bracket draw is already known, the players will most likely pick the games to win and lose to determine their Ro8 opponent. However, in...

#10 with 111.8 points - FrkFrJss Wednesday, Nov 02 8:25am GMT (GMT+00:00):
I'll admit that the odds are against a foreigner being in the finals, but did we think that a foreigner would win KeSPA cup? Did we think that a foreigner would even get out o...

#11 with 108.1 points - FueledUpAndReadyToGo Friday, Nov 04 10:01pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Poll: Recommend Dark versus Neeblet game 3? ★★★★★ A Must Watch (9) 38% ★★★★ Fantastic Game (4) 17% ★★★ Fun Game (1) 4% ★★ Not that interesting (7) 29% ★ Just no (3) 13% 24 tot...

#12 with 104.6 points - Fango Tuesday, Nov 01 3:57pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
I'm curious as to why he said that (I know nothing about him before Blizzcon). Although if he himself had such little faith in his macro game that he risked it all with proxy ...

#13 with 103.2 points - The_Red_Viper Saturday, Nov 05 4:04pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
I actually think it was great, but it wasn't a good wcs system because it was more like a one event thing. It basically was like WCG, which in itself is a great concept ofc bu...

#14 with 98.5 points - vult Friday, Nov 04 5:06pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
I rarely get to shitpost so reading this thread is super funny to me lol. In all honesty, i think that the weight of the Dark/Neeb match is probably 65:35, but that is a heavy...

#15 with 97.2 points - Poopi Friday, Nov 04 5:28pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Foreigner vs Koreans always bring a lot of viewers. This time it's an US player (they didn't do anything in forever even among foreigners, so I guess those who watch Blizzcon ...

#16 with 95.5 points - zakadar Thursday, Nov 03 5:34pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
byun plays almost everygame the same most time commitment on 2 base pressure stats tis kinda the only korean toss who knows how to play pvz into the later stages of the game a...

#17 with 93.6 points - The_Red_Viper Saturday, Nov 05 3:43pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
Ok i will repeat what i always say: These kind of things have multiple reasons ofc, no i don't want to blame WCS for everything saying that there are no other factors. That is...

#18 with 89.2 points - ParksonVN Tuesday, Nov 01 10:55am GMT (GMT+00:00):
Ehh, you has only been following since 2015, thats why you dont know that in fact foreigner were copying Korean's style all the time before 2016, there were hell a lot of Kore...

#19 with 88.7 points - Topin Wednesday, Nov 02 11:43pm GMT (GMT+00:00):
while i love ByuN i see TY as a more solid player mostly in the mental aspect. if ByuN can get momentum he can win but TY is so good defending a looks so solid that is really ...

#20 with 85.6 points - Cinek357 Tuesday, Nov 01 10:20am GMT (GMT+00:00):
Some people act like there were groups full of foreigners and that's why they reached top 8. They are blind to the fact that their precious Korean gods actually did lose match...


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eviltomahawk
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November 05 2016 17:07 GMT
#4042
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
November 05 2016 17:07 GMT
#4043
Fucking finally I'm not #1 anymore. Jesus, was it so hard?

Actually I take it back I'm pretty sure Viper almost went fully insane trying to make that post.
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
November 05 2016 17:08 GMT
#4044
On November 06 2016 02:07 Elentos wrote:
Fucking finally I'm not #1 anymore. Jesus, was it so hard?

Actually I take it back I'm pretty sure Viper almost went fully insane trying to make that post.


All it took was essentially for Viper to establish and destroy a whole franchise
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usopsama
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November 05 2016 17:10 GMT
#4045
My Pashun to see foreignerland get destroyed by Koreans earned me #17 on the PASSIONBOARD.
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Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
November 05 2016 17:22 GMT
#4046
i'm gonna be honest i never paid attention at how the passionboard is working and i do wonder how did i end up as #10
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Belgica34432 Posts
November 05 2016 17:22 GMT
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United States13974 Posts
November 05 2016 17:28 GMT
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how the flying fuck did viper beat elentos?
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Profile Blog Joined February 2015
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November 05 2016 17:30 GMT
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On November 06 2016 02:28 Cricketer12 wrote:
how the flying fuck did viper beat elentos?

I didn't put in any effort and actually am actively trying to avoid topping the board.

Viper made this:+ Show Spoiler +

On November 05 2016 04:43 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Here is how Blizzcon will go down (more or less), it is known:

We open with the talent and expert couch. Everybody is enthusiastic, talks a bit about the tournament, the players, the legacy of the game and other things to lighten the mood, set the tone and generate hype.
Our first match of the day is Tobias Sieber vs Mikołaj Ogonowski. Yes Mikołaj Ogonowski actually made it this far, if you are confused right now this has a reason, most people (rightfully so) expected his fellow countryman Artur Bloch to be in the quarterfinals instead. But the god of starcraft decided otherwise and Ogonowski beat Bloch in the deciding match of group D with the scoreline of 2:0.
What about Tobias Sieber? The german protoss dominated his group by beating both korean players (Baek Dong Jun and Byun Hyun Woo) 2:0 and advanced first because of it.
But the past isn't important anymore, who cares how you made it to the mainstage at blizzcon? Some people do it in a beautiful game like starcraft, where every unit counts, you outsmart your opponents, you execute strategies nobody at home would have thought possible before. Other players make it there through cardgames which are all about RNG, or mobas (oh sorry team brawlers) even less skill focused than league of legends. Some sources say there is even a new game, a new competition at this year's blizzcon. The 10/10 class based hero moba shooter game Overwatch makes its first appearance as well. If you followed the starcraft and esports scene for some time you might think right now: "Wait that is the game which was the reason David Moschetto lost last year against He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named, right?" Lol nope he just sucked.
As i said, it isn't important how you got here, right now there is only Tobias Sieber vs Mikołaj Ogonowski. Both players are on their A game, nobody in the audience really can be sure which player actually has the edge. Still both first game eventually go the way of Tobias Sieber. The crowd goes wild, you can hear chants for both players and the commentators announce a small break.
The camera zooms in on Ogonowski, he stares at the screen while a single tear is running down his face. All of a sudden it switches to the Heroes of the Storm stream:

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Artur: „Mikołaj there is more at risk than you simply losing a starcraft match, and remember that this is only the first step towards the blizzcon trophy. Our biggest enemy is not germany, it is south korea. Desperate times call for desperate measures!“
Mikołaj: „Wait you really wanna do this right now?“
Artur: „ I don't want to, but we have to. Let's do it for poland!“

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Miktur: „And so it begins!“
The rest of the games the polish zerg wins quite easily, Tobias doesn't get what just happened and nobody else understands where this momentum shift came from either.
Miktur walks up on stage and Smix is ready to interview him.
Smix: „Congratulations Elazer, you just made it to the semifinals of blizzcon! I think it is fair to say that nobody really expected you to be here considering you were the 16th seed for this tournament! What are your thoughts now that you made it and proved you are a top contender for the title?“
Miktur: „I don't think he is a top contender, i should have been here instead!“
Smix: „Euh i think you misunderstood, what are your thoughts now that you won against showtime?“
Miktur: „As i said i should have been here and not Mikołaj!“ „Shut up Artur!“ „...“ „..!..“
The camera cuts away to the expert couch but you can still hear Smix say : „Are you ok?“
Apollo greets us with a big smile and tells us that there apparently are technical difficulties the team needs to fix. The live show should be back in about 20 minutes.
42 minutes later:
The show goes on and it is time for the PvZ of the day, Alex Sunderhaft vs Park Ryung Woo. The crowd is excited to see the american hope and you can hear it: „TSM TSM TSM“.
The first game starts and to the pleasure of everyone the casting archon is commentating it. Both look amazing with their new style.

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Artosis: „Hello nerds around the world, it is time to cast some sc2!“
Tasteless: „Well said Arty, well said! This should be a good game, the american hope Neeb again-“
Artosis: „Neeblet against Dark Tasteless you are absolutely right, this is what nerd dreams are made of i can tell you that much.“
Tasteless: „Indeed, indeed.“ Neeb is known to have good PvZ and he is also the first foreign player to win in a korean tournament since basically forever.“
Artosis: „Oh yeah, since the bw days Tasteless“
Tasteless: „Broodwar, yes. Guys let me tell you one thing, bw was so hard you had to manually send your workers to mine. That's crazy when you think about it.“
Artosi: „Mhm“
Tasteless: „This adept attack Neeblet is doing right now would also take an incredible amount of apm and micro, but let's see what actually happens now!“
Artosis: „Dark is playing beautifully right now, amazing control!“
The game goes on for a few more minutes and Park Ryung Woo wins with a big push Alex Sunderhaft simply cannot hold. The next game starts soon after and Tastosis talk a little bit about the new HBO series „Westworld“ in the beginning. How crazy it would be to be in such a themepark and which progamers would be the best choice to make into robot hosts. Tasteless says jokingly „Well i mean Innovation basically is already a robot, isn't he, hahahaaha“ and Artosis agress with him laughing as well. At the end they both agree on NaDa though, because he has the body and the brain for it, they give a huge shoutout to the infamous thread on TL which is the resource for „many nerd's wet dream“.
This game Sunderhaft wins and the score is 1:1. There is no break this time either, they probably wanna be back on schedule after the first 42 minute break. The next game is a fast one because Park fails to defend Sunderhaft's speciality push, the same one he defended in the first game without much problem. Sunderhaft looks dominating this game, his micro on another level, no banelings really hit his adepts. The crowd cheers again: „Neeb Let Neeb Let Neeb Let“ and the livereport thread on TL also explodes with hits. Some famous sc2 personalities show their whole passion on twitter, here are two randomly selected tweets:

[image loading]


[image loading]


The fourth game starts and we are back with Tastosis. Both hype Alex Sunderhaft, saying he might be the best foreigner of all time and probably one of the best protoss players as well. The early game seems to be pretty standard and so the casting archon decides to talk about important things instead. The new pokemon editions apparently come out in the near future and tasteless thinks the design of the new creatures is fairly mediocre, artosis disagrees vehemently.
Artosis: „Look Tasteless, you have to consid-“
The screen goes black, twitch chat spams RIP, PICNIC and other silly memes. The LR thread still discusses if Artosis or Tasteless is right in the pokemon question. The stream stays down for another 15 minutes and when it is back the scoreline says 2:2. Apparently we missed the whole game and the korean zerg player somehow won it. We get to hear some excuses and they show us replays of the game. It looks like Park dominated this game quite easily. The next game will be the deciding one and everybody in the stadium and at home knows it. Who will prevail at the end?
The final game starts and no player is willing to take any risks. They both macro up playing as standard as standard gets. Every harassment opportunity gets shut down immediately by the other player and so we make it into the lategame with both competitors having huge ecenomies and access to pretty much their whole techtree as well. Artosis and Tasteless say that this game might be the best PvZ they have ever casted and everyone should tweet it out so nerds all over the world check it out. The observer opens the production tab and points out that Sunderhaft started to build carriers, 6 at a time. The people in the stadium start cheering „USA USA USA“ and it seems like the american protoss player is in PRIME position to win this final game. He pushes with his deathball of toss units and Park Ryung Woo is forced to defend his last expansions with a ton of corruptors, lurkers and hydralisks. His army gets smashed and it is clear that the korean zerg has to gg out any moment. The camera zooms in on Sunderhaft and he also knows that he is seconds away from defeating the huge tournament favorite. The screen goes black again.
The livereport thread on TL is sure, Sunderhaft had this game won and as soon as the stream comes back the scorelines would be 3:2 in favor of the american protoss player. Some discussion about region block and the wcs system being a huge success gets shut down by moderators and people wait knowing it can take a while. Half an hour passes.
We are back and both Sunderhaft and Park are on the stage.

[image loading]


Tastosis explain that there was a power outage and the replays are broken. The officials decided that there isn't enough time to play the game from start and we will soon get the announcement of the winner. Tastosis say that the last time this has happened as far as they can remember was the infamous msl final between Lee Jae Dong and Lee Young Ho. Back then the officials also had to decide which player had won a specific map and both Artosis and Tasteless agree that they chose the right player.
Artosis: „This time the decision is basically just as clear guys, no need to worry.“
Tasteless: „You are right Arty, Neeb euh Neeblet had a standing army and Dark had no realistic chance to win the game“
We again see the stage where both Park and Sunderhaft wait for the announcement.

[image loading]



The crowd is silent, this surely has to be a mistake right? But no the official states that it was a very hard decision to make but at the end it seemed clear that Park Ryung Woo was in the better position to take the game. Nobody can fathom how this decision was made but it is too late now, it is official. Sunderhaft runs crying backstage and Park also doesn't seem to be very happy. The fans start booing and Apollo has to move on with the show. What an end to an amazing series!
Behind the stage:
Sunderhaft is ok again even though he still cannot understand how this could happen, the official who announced the decision live on stage approaches him and says: „Don't worry your time will still come.“ He touches his face and strips it away.


[image loading]



People are still shocked what just happened but the next match of the day is about to begin. The TvT korean elitists around the world were waiting for: Jun Tae Yang the prodigy terran who started playing professional starcraft at the age of twelve vs Byun Hyun Woo the current GSL champion.
The expert talent on the couch is talking about some incredible stats like the TvT streak Jun Tae Yang is on with 27-0 in bo3+ matches or Byun's winrate being even 4% higher. Some of them try to do the math but as everybody knows this isn't something you should try live on air so they soon drop that idea. Before the match starts we still get to see more stats about that duell, how many calories both players have eaten since last blizzcon, how many hours of OW the 10/10 game both terrans have played in total, what their favorite anime of the season is and other useful statistics you can use to argue in LR threads like:

[image loading]



Enough with the stats though, it is time to see some high level starcraft. The games start and the players don't disappoint. This match will go full 5 games, so much is already clear after the first game just entered midgame. Lots of micro play, lots of multitasking and even lots of dropping siege tanks before the the enemy. Wow. The first game Jun wins through better positioning and a little bit of luck. Both players already seem to be exhausted but that is not too surprising, this is a match on equal footing and everybody in the starcraft community knows that terran is the hardest race and this fact is true since broodwar, which is also why most bonjwas were terran.
The next two games are split 1-1 which makes the scoreline 2-1 in favor of Jun Tae Yang. Byun seems to have the momentum though after he defeated the KT terran on the last map after a 90 minute game which could be desribed at chess for millennials. There is a short break and finally the two players have time to relax a bit and enjoy the atmosphere in the arena. It is great, people are cheering and showing off their signs carefully made for this event.

[image loading]


Byun and Jun both look at the audience and both notice that their favorite people in the world are here to cheer for them. For Byun it is more though, he remembers the times in the past where he tried to get the attention of Lee Shin Hyung without much success. „Senpai notice me“ again and again. He also remembers the hard times when some foreign scrub on TL made an april fools post, announcing that PRIME had the support of Sbenu (at the time a big deal in the korean scene). Then ofc the matchfixing scandal happened and Prime had to disband. All these obstacles Byun overcame though and finally he was crowned the best sc2 player in the world after defeating some noname protoss player in the GSL final. But was it all worth it? Byun wasn't so sure anymore. Lee Shin Hyung finally was open about his love, wasn't that more important? Wasn't that the purpose if life? To be happy with the decisions you choose to make?
The fourth game starts and after merely a few seconds Byun ggs and the victory screen shows Jun Tae Yang as the winner of the match. People are confused again but this time Byun gives the answers, he runs out of the booth jumps down the stage and approaches the SKT terran waiting for him. They both hug, kiss and leave the stadium together.
A few hours later this picture appears on social media:

[image loading]


The expert couch is speechless and only Total Buiscuit finds some warm words complimenting Byun's choice to go for love instead of money and integrity, „something not everybody in this scene understands.“
Now the final match of the evening is about to start, the all korean PvP of two KT players: Joo Sung Wook who looked out of shape for the last few months vs Kim Dae Yeob who always seems to be underrated by everybody. It is decider of which protoss player still has the chance to win the title this year, the pressure is huge and both players are aware of it.
Apollo talks a bit about the korean scene this year, how much fun he had to watch it and how awesome it still will continue to be next year. „There are people in this community who want to be negative just to be negative, Zest vs Stats will show us how promising the korean scene is and how the skill level increased even though some TL writers seem to think otherwise“
A video is played which shows us the best moments of both players this year, including the following shots:

[image loading]


[image loading]


Now it is time to start the games though and both players try to cannon rush each other! The game is decided by a silly mistake of Joo, something he maybe would not have made two years ago, who knows. The next games are standard games with oracle harass, adepts, disruptor ping pong, adepts, blink stalkers, adepts and not a single zealot is made. Kim Dae Yeob loses in the end 2:3 and the day is over. Amazing games, amazing storylines and emotions you won't get in any other esports scene. This is why we love the starcraft scene!

#IMadeThis


Not even sure he didn't cost himself points by insisting on using the players' real names.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
November 05 2016 17:34 GMT
#4050
On November 06 2016 00:53 Poopi wrote:
I dunno the huge prizepools and random winners every year seem like a big joke (dota that is, Invincible SKT is cool for LoL).
A bunch of LCS / World matches are really boring / useless so I wouldn't call the riot model a really successful one, especially with how much NA players make from streaming.
Most NA teams seem perfectly happy being overhyped yet bad.

TI probably has the format that reduces the randomness the most. There's a giant group stage that sorts the teams, then a double-elimination bracket, which no other game seems to do.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
November 05 2016 17:34 GMT
#4051
AI panel was kinda neat. They showed off DeepMind's progress in Atari games.

They also brought up the possibility of using DeepMind for balance test maps.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
November 05 2016 17:36 GMT
#4052
On November 06 2016 02:30 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2016 02:28 Cricketer12 wrote:
how the flying fuck did viper beat elentos?

I didn't put in any effort and actually am actively trying to avoid topping the board.

Viper made this:+ Show Spoiler +

On November 05 2016 04:43 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Here is how Blizzcon will go down (more or less), it is known:

We open with the talent and expert couch. Everybody is enthusiastic, talks a bit about the tournament, the players, the legacy of the game and other things to lighten the mood, set the tone and generate hype.
Our first match of the day is Tobias Sieber vs Mikołaj Ogonowski. Yes Mikołaj Ogonowski actually made it this far, if you are confused right now this has a reason, most people (rightfully so) expected his fellow countryman Artur Bloch to be in the quarterfinals instead. But the god of starcraft decided otherwise and Ogonowski beat Bloch in the deciding match of group D with the scoreline of 2:0.
What about Tobias Sieber? The german protoss dominated his group by beating both korean players (Baek Dong Jun and Byun Hyun Woo) 2:0 and advanced first because of it.
But the past isn't important anymore, who cares how you made it to the mainstage at blizzcon? Some people do it in a beautiful game like starcraft, where every unit counts, you outsmart your opponents, you execute strategies nobody at home would have thought possible before. Other players make it there through cardgames which are all about RNG, or mobas (oh sorry team brawlers) even less skill focused than league of legends. Some sources say there is even a new game, a new competition at this year's blizzcon. The 10/10 class based hero moba shooter game Overwatch makes its first appearance as well. If you followed the starcraft and esports scene for some time you might think right now: "Wait that is the game which was the reason David Moschetto lost last year against He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named, right?" Lol nope he just sucked.
As i said, it isn't important how you got here, right now there is only Tobias Sieber vs Mikołaj Ogonowski. Both players are on their A game, nobody in the audience really can be sure which player actually has the edge. Still both first game eventually go the way of Tobias Sieber. The crowd goes wild, you can hear chants for both players and the commentators announce a small break.
The camera zooms in on Ogonowski, he stares at the screen while a single tear is running down his face. All of a sudden it switches to the Heroes of the Storm stream:

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Wolf is right Ogonowski seems to have a mental block atm and someone else notices this too. Artur Bloch enters the booth and it seems clear that he is frustrated.

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Artur: „Mikołaj there is more at risk than you simply losing a starcraft match, and remember that this is only the first step towards the blizzcon trophy. Our biggest enemy is not germany, it is south korea. Desperate times call for desperate measures!“
Mikołaj: „Wait you really wanna do this right now?“
Artur: „ I don't want to, but we have to. Let's do it for poland!“

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Miktur: „And so it begins!“
The rest of the games the polish zerg wins quite easily, Tobias doesn't get what just happened and nobody else understands where this momentum shift came from either.
Miktur walks up on stage and Smix is ready to interview him.
Smix: „Congratulations Elazer, you just made it to the semifinals of blizzcon! I think it is fair to say that nobody really expected you to be here considering you were the 16th seed for this tournament! What are your thoughts now that you made it and proved you are a top contender for the title?“
Miktur: „I don't think he is a top contender, i should have been here instead!“
Smix: „Euh i think you misunderstood, what are your thoughts now that you won against showtime?“
Miktur: „As i said i should have been here and not Mikołaj!“ „Shut up Artur!“ „...“ „..!..“
The camera cuts away to the expert couch but you can still hear Smix say : „Are you ok?“
Apollo greets us with a big smile and tells us that there apparently are technical difficulties the team needs to fix. The live show should be back in about 20 minutes.
42 minutes later:
The show goes on and it is time for the PvZ of the day, Alex Sunderhaft vs Park Ryung Woo. The crowd is excited to see the american hope and you can hear it: „TSM TSM TSM“.
The first game starts and to the pleasure of everyone the casting archon is commentating it. Both look amazing with their new style.

[image loading]


Artosis: „Hello nerds around the world, it is time to cast some sc2!“
Tasteless: „Well said Arty, well said! This should be a good game, the american hope Neeb again-“
Artosis: „Neeblet against Dark Tasteless you are absolutely right, this is what nerd dreams are made of i can tell you that much.“
Tasteless: „Indeed, indeed.“ Neeb is known to have good PvZ and he is also the first foreign player to win in a korean tournament since basically forever.“
Artosis: „Oh yeah, since the bw days Tasteless“
Tasteless: „Broodwar, yes. Guys let me tell you one thing, bw was so hard you had to manually send your workers to mine. That's crazy when you think about it.“
Artosi: „Mhm“
Tasteless: „This adept attack Neeblet is doing right now would also take an incredible amount of apm and micro, but let's see what actually happens now!“
Artosis: „Dark is playing beautifully right now, amazing control!“
The game goes on for a few more minutes and Park Ryung Woo wins with a big push Alex Sunderhaft simply cannot hold. The next game starts soon after and Tastosis talk a little bit about the new HBO series „Westworld“ in the beginning. How crazy it would be to be in such a themepark and which progamers would be the best choice to make into robot hosts. Tasteless says jokingly „Well i mean Innovation basically is already a robot, isn't he, hahahaaha“ and Artosis agress with him laughing as well. At the end they both agree on NaDa though, because he has the body and the brain for it, they give a huge shoutout to the infamous thread on TL which is the resource for „many nerd's wet dream“.
This game Sunderhaft wins and the score is 1:1. There is no break this time either, they probably wanna be back on schedule after the first 42 minute break. The next game is a fast one because Park fails to defend Sunderhaft's speciality push, the same one he defended in the first game without much problem. Sunderhaft looks dominating this game, his micro on another level, no banelings really hit his adepts. The crowd cheers again: „Neeb Let Neeb Let Neeb Let“ and the livereport thread on TL also explodes with hits. Some famous sc2 personalities show their whole passion on twitter, here are two randomly selected tweets:

[image loading]


[image loading]


The fourth game starts and we are back with Tastosis. Both hype Alex Sunderhaft, saying he might be the best foreigner of all time and probably one of the best protoss players as well. The early game seems to be pretty standard and so the casting archon decides to talk about important things instead. The new pokemon editions apparently come out in the near future and tasteless thinks the design of the new creatures is fairly mediocre, artosis disagrees vehemently.
Artosis: „Look Tasteless, you have to consid-“
The screen goes black, twitch chat spams RIP, PICNIC and other silly memes. The LR thread still discusses if Artosis or Tasteless is right in the pokemon question. The stream stays down for another 15 minutes and when it is back the scoreline says 2:2. Apparently we missed the whole game and the korean zerg player somehow won it. We get to hear some excuses and they show us replays of the game. It looks like Park dominated this game quite easily. The next game will be the deciding one and everybody in the stadium and at home knows it. Who will prevail at the end?
The final game starts and no player is willing to take any risks. They both macro up playing as standard as standard gets. Every harassment opportunity gets shut down immediately by the other player and so we make it into the lategame with both competitors having huge ecenomies and access to pretty much their whole techtree as well. Artosis and Tasteless say that this game might be the best PvZ they have ever casted and everyone should tweet it out so nerds all over the world check it out. The observer opens the production tab and points out that Sunderhaft started to build carriers, 6 at a time. The people in the stadium start cheering „USA USA USA“ and it seems like the american protoss player is in PRIME position to win this final game. He pushes with his deathball of toss units and Park Ryung Woo is forced to defend his last expansions with a ton of corruptors, lurkers and hydralisks. His army gets smashed and it is clear that the korean zerg has to gg out any moment. The camera zooms in on Sunderhaft and he also knows that he is seconds away from defeating the huge tournament favorite. The screen goes black again.
The livereport thread on TL is sure, Sunderhaft had this game won and as soon as the stream comes back the scorelines would be 3:2 in favor of the american protoss player. Some discussion about region block and the wcs system being a huge success gets shut down by moderators and people wait knowing it can take a while. Half an hour passes.
We are back and both Sunderhaft and Park are on the stage.

[image loading]


Tastosis explain that there was a power outage and the replays are broken. The officials decided that there isn't enough time to play the game from start and we will soon get the announcement of the winner. Tastosis say that the last time this has happened as far as they can remember was the infamous msl final between Lee Jae Dong and Lee Young Ho. Back then the officials also had to decide which player had won a specific map and both Artosis and Tasteless agree that they chose the right player.
Artosis: „This time the decision is basically just as clear guys, no need to worry.“
Tasteless: „You are right Arty, Neeb euh Neeblet had a standing army and Dark had no realistic chance to win the game“
We again see the stage where both Park and Sunderhaft wait for the announcement.

[image loading]



The crowd is silent, this surely has to be a mistake right? But no the official states that it was a very hard decision to make but at the end it seemed clear that Park Ryung Woo was in the better position to take the game. Nobody can fathom how this decision was made but it is too late now, it is official. Sunderhaft runs crying backstage and Park also doesn't seem to be very happy. The fans start booing and Apollo has to move on with the show. What an end to an amazing series!
Behind the stage:
Sunderhaft is ok again even though he still cannot understand how this could happen, the official who announced the decision live on stage approaches him and says: „Don't worry your time will still come.“ He touches his face and strips it away.


[image loading]



People are still shocked what just happened but the next match of the day is about to begin. The TvT korean elitists around the world were waiting for: Jun Tae Yang the prodigy terran who started playing professional starcraft at the age of twelve vs Byun Hyun Woo the current GSL champion.
The expert talent on the couch is talking about some incredible stats like the TvT streak Jun Tae Yang is on with 27-0 in bo3+ matches or Byun's winrate being even 4% higher. Some of them try to do the math but as everybody knows this isn't something you should try live on air so they soon drop that idea. Before the match starts we still get to see more stats about that duell, how many calories both players have eaten since last blizzcon, how many hours of OW the 10/10 game both terrans have played in total, what their favorite anime of the season is and other useful statistics you can use to argue in LR threads like:

[image loading]



Enough with the stats though, it is time to see some high level starcraft. The games start and the players don't disappoint. This match will go full 5 games, so much is already clear after the first game just entered midgame. Lots of micro play, lots of multitasking and even lots of dropping siege tanks before the the enemy. Wow. The first game Jun wins through better positioning and a little bit of luck. Both players already seem to be exhausted but that is not too surprising, this is a match on equal footing and everybody in the starcraft community knows that terran is the hardest race and this fact is true since broodwar, which is also why most bonjwas were terran.
The next two games are split 1-1 which makes the scoreline 2-1 in favor of Jun Tae Yang. Byun seems to have the momentum though after he defeated the KT terran on the last map after a 90 minute game which could be desribed at chess for millennials. There is a short break and finally the two players have time to relax a bit and enjoy the atmosphere in the arena. It is great, people are cheering and showing off their signs carefully made for this event.

[image loading]


Byun and Jun both look at the audience and both notice that their favorite people in the world are here to cheer for them. For Byun it is more though, he remembers the times in the past where he tried to get the attention of Lee Shin Hyung without much success. „Senpai notice me“ again and again. He also remembers the hard times when some foreign scrub on TL made an april fools post, announcing that PRIME had the support of Sbenu (at the time a big deal in the korean scene). Then ofc the matchfixing scandal happened and Prime had to disband. All these obstacles Byun overcame though and finally he was crowned the best sc2 player in the world after defeating some noname protoss player in the GSL final. But was it all worth it? Byun wasn't so sure anymore. Lee Shin Hyung finally was open about his love, wasn't that more important? Wasn't that the purpose if life? To be happy with the decisions you choose to make?
The fourth game starts and after merely a few seconds Byun ggs and the victory screen shows Jun Tae Yang as the winner of the match. People are confused again but this time Byun gives the answers, he runs out of the booth jumps down the stage and approaches the SKT terran waiting for him. They both hug, kiss and leave the stadium together.
A few hours later this picture appears on social media:

[image loading]


The expert couch is speechless and only Total Buiscuit finds some warm words complimenting Byun's choice to go for love instead of money and integrity, „something not everybody in this scene understands.“
Now the final match of the evening is about to start, the all korean PvP of two KT players: Joo Sung Wook who looked out of shape for the last few months vs Kim Dae Yeob who always seems to be underrated by everybody. It is decider of which protoss player still has the chance to win the title this year, the pressure is huge and both players are aware of it.
Apollo talks a bit about the korean scene this year, how much fun he had to watch it and how awesome it still will continue to be next year. „There are people in this community who want to be negative just to be negative, Zest vs Stats will show us how promising the korean scene is and how the skill level increased even though some TL writers seem to think otherwise“
A video is played which shows us the best moments of both players this year, including the following shots:

[image loading]


[image loading]


Now it is time to start the games though and both players try to cannon rush each other! The game is decided by a silly mistake of Joo, something he maybe would not have made two years ago, who knows. The next games are standard games with oracle harass, adepts, disruptor ping pong, adepts, blink stalkers, adepts and not a single zealot is made. Kim Dae Yeob loses in the end 2:3 and the day is over. Amazing games, amazing storylines and emotions you won't get in any other esports scene. This is why we love the starcraft scene!

#IMadeThis


Not even sure he didn't cost himself points by insisting on using the players' real names.


This was about the passion man, not points
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
November 05 2016 17:37 GMT
#4053
You know, in hindsight...

Viper's story about TY vs ByuN is essentially what happened. Just the names were mixed up and TY didn't find true love. But the description of the games is pretty accurate and the score was 3-1.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
November 05 2016 17:43 GMT
#4054
In 30 minutes they will start with pro's playing Co-op on the new insanity mode. Should be fun
Neosteel Enthusiast
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
November 05 2016 18:00 GMT
#4055
SC2 AI panel was interesting, hyped to see what comes of it.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
November 05 2016 18:02 GMT
#4056
Usually pros are kinda bad at campaign type style when it comes to SC2 because they try to play it like they would on ladder and those missions weren't really meant to be played in optimized pro style.

Let's see how they deal with co-op.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-05 18:06:20
November 05 2016 18:06 GMT
#4057
On November 06 2016 03:02 Elentos wrote:
Usually pros are kinda bad at campaign type style when it comes to SC2 because they try to play it like they would on ladder and those missions weren't really meant to be played in optimized pro style.

Let's see how they deal with co-op.

hehe yeah when I watched some pros play campaign at the release of expansions I was quite shocked how some would not understand the OP campaign mechanics
Neosteel Enthusiast
breaker1328
Profile Joined March 2016
Canada295 Posts
November 05 2016 18:08 GMT
#4058
On November 06 2016 03:02 Elentos wrote:
Usually pros are kinda bad at campaign type style when it comes to SC2 because they try to play it like they would on ladder and those missions weren't really meant to be played in optimized pro style.

Let's see how they deal with co-op.


Agreed. I found even the WoL campaigns to be much easier by using whatever the new unit was that they gave you rather than a well rounded ladder type comp.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
November 05 2016 18:13 GMT
#4059
I read on a French site 21:30 CET, please tell me they forgot to substract one hour for winter time and it's indeed 20:30?
And yeah most pros don't give a crap about solo since you don't have to play an actual human so they play stubbornly trying to have a bit of fun against the campaign stuff.
WriterMaru
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2215 Posts
November 05 2016 18:18 GMT
#4060
INno what a badman
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