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HTF did Elazer beat Solar? Awesome for him, did not expect.
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On October 29 2016 05:19 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 05:18 Elentos wrote:On October 29 2016 05:16 [PkF] Wire wrote:On October 29 2016 05:14 Charoisaur wrote:On October 29 2016 05:12 ArtyK wrote:On October 29 2016 05:12 Charoisaur wrote:On October 29 2016 05:10 ArtyK wrote:On October 29 2016 05:09 Fango wrote:On October 29 2016 05:07 ArtyK wrote:
On a side note, foreigners took 8 maps off koreans so far before the groups are over.
Koreans are still favorites sure, but where are the people who said foreigners wouldn't take a single map :> No one predicted them to not take a single map. Just to not get out of any group Some TL guys did on various threads some months ago it wasn't known yet that the korean scene is collapsing And? This is still 200K for the winner and you're supposedly playing against weaker players this year :p pretty sure this affects the mentality of the players. I don't think it's a coincidence that foreigners are now catching up after 18 years of complete korean dominance at the exact same time all the teams are disbanding. of course it's not a coincidence. Still the future of the sc2 competitive scene lies more in the foreign scene than in the korean scene if you ask me. sc2 is still relatively popular in AM/EU/CN while it always felt the game was being forced down Korea's throat and that they'd rather still play BW. I mean the foreign scene was effectively dying before the WCS changes. yeah but because it was sucked out by a scene that shouldn't really have existed in the first place
There was a Korean scene almost from the very start, it just ended up devouring itself because KeSPA made the full 100% switch leaving nothing behind in BW.
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On October 29 2016 05:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 05:17 Elentos wrote:
Maybe it's because of WESG but I really don't find these breaks long at all. And barely frequent. i haven't played or bought Overwatch. now that i found out Forbes ( known for its video game coverage ) gave it a 10/10 i'm going to have to buy it now.
don't forget that all critics agree and that it's a perfect ten, not just your everyday ten
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On October 29 2016 05:20 sparklyresidue wrote:
HTF did Elazer beat Solar? Awesome for him, did not expect.
ZvZ happened
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On October 29 2016 05:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 05:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On October 29 2016 05:17 Elentos wrote:
Maybe it's because of WESG but I really don't find these breaks long at all. And barely frequent. i haven't played or bought Overwatch. now that i found out Forbes ( known for its video game coverage ) gave it a 10/10 i'm going to have to buy it now. don't forget that all critics agree and that it's a perfect ten, not just your everyday ten
but how do you tell the difference between a perfect 10 and a regular ass ugly 10?
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On October 29 2016 05:20 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 05:19 [PkF] Wire wrote:On October 29 2016 05:18 Elentos wrote:On October 29 2016 05:16 [PkF] Wire wrote:On October 29 2016 05:14 Charoisaur wrote:On October 29 2016 05:12 ArtyK wrote:On October 29 2016 05:12 Charoisaur wrote:On October 29 2016 05:10 ArtyK wrote:On October 29 2016 05:09 Fango wrote:On October 29 2016 05:07 ArtyK wrote:
On a side note, foreigners took 8 maps off koreans so far before the groups are over.
Koreans are still favorites sure, but where are the people who said foreigners wouldn't take a single map :> No one predicted them to not take a single map. Just to not get out of any group Some TL guys did on various threads some months ago it wasn't known yet that the korean scene is collapsing And? This is still 200K for the winner and you're supposedly playing against weaker players this year :p pretty sure this affects the mentality of the players. I don't think it's a coincidence that foreigners are now catching up after 18 years of complete korean dominance at the exact same time all the teams are disbanding. of course it's not a coincidence. Still the future of the sc2 competitive scene lies more in the foreign scene than in the korean scene if you ask me. sc2 is still relatively popular in AM/EU/CN while it always felt the game was being forced down Korea's throat and that they'd rather still play BW. I mean the foreign scene was effectively dying before the WCS changes. yeah but because it was sucked out by a scene that shouldn't really have existed in the first place There was a Korean scene almost from the very start, it just ended up devouring itself because KeSPA made the full 100% switch leaving nothing behind in BW.
yeah kespa should never have done the full switch or even come to sc2 if they didnt truly want it
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On October 29 2016 05:20 ArtyK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 05:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:On October 29 2016 05:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On October 29 2016 05:17 Elentos wrote:
Maybe it's because of WESG but I really don't find these breaks long at all. And barely frequent. i haven't played or bought Overwatch. now that i found out Forbes ( known for its video game coverage ) gave it a 10/10 i'm going to have to buy it now. don't forget that all critics agree and that it's a perfect ten, not just your everyday ten but how do you tell the difference between a perfect 10 and a regular ass ugly 10?
you do tell me
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On October 29 2016 05:20 ArtyK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 05:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:On October 29 2016 05:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On October 29 2016 05:17 Elentos wrote:
Maybe it's because of WESG but I really don't find these breaks long at all. And barely frequent. i haven't played or bought Overwatch. now that i found out Forbes ( known for its video game coverage ) gave it a 10/10 i'm going to have to buy it now. don't forget that all critics agree and that it's a perfect ten, not just your everyday ten but how do you tell the difference between a perfect 10 and a regular ass ugly 10?
my handwriting is bad so my 10s look pretty shitty
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i'd love to see this new ATVI subsidiary take everything over. Blizz is mediocre at best at running competitive leagues.
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On October 29 2016 05:20 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 05:20 sparklyresidue wrote:
HTF did Elazer beat Solar? Awesome for him, did not expect. ZvZ happened
Right, which Solar is godly at.
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On October 29 2016 05:21 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 05:20 ArtyK wrote:On October 29 2016 05:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:On October 29 2016 05:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On October 29 2016 05:17 Elentos wrote:
Maybe it's because of WESG but I really don't find these breaks long at all. And barely frequent. i haven't played or bought Overwatch. now that i found out Forbes ( known for its video game coverage ) gave it a 10/10 i'm going to have to buy it now. don't forget that all critics agree and that it's a perfect ten, not just your everyday ten but how do you tell the difference between a perfect 10 and a regular ass ugly 10? you do tell me
the regular ass ugly 10 is still a worse game than starcraft 2?
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On October 29 2016 05:20 ArtyK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 05:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:On October 29 2016 05:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On October 29 2016 05:17 Elentos wrote:
Maybe it's because of WESG but I really don't find these breaks long at all. And barely frequent. i haven't played or bought Overwatch. now that i found out Forbes ( known for its video game coverage ) gave it a 10/10 i'm going to have to buy it now. don't forget that all critics agree and that it's a perfect ten, not just your everyday ten but how do you tell the difference between a perfect 10 and a regular ass ugly 10?
You ask the critics. Weren't you listening?
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Surprised Dear didn't veto Frost and viOlet vetoed both Dasan and Frozen
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On October 29 2016 05:21 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 05:20 ArtyK wrote:On October 29 2016 05:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:On October 29 2016 05:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On October 29 2016 05:17 Elentos wrote:
Maybe it's because of WESG but I really don't find these breaks long at all. And barely frequent. i haven't played or bought Overwatch. now that i found out Forbes ( known for its video game coverage ) gave it a 10/10 i'm going to have to buy it now. don't forget that all critics agree and that it's a perfect ten, not just your everyday ten but how do you tell the difference between a perfect 10 and a regular ass ugly 10? my handwriting is bad so my 10s look pretty shitty
too many bans makes your handwritting shit it's proven
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On October 29 2016 05:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 05:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On October 29 2016 05:17 Elentos wrote:
Maybe it's because of WESG but I really don't find these breaks long at all. And barely frequent. i haven't played or bought Overwatch. now that i found out Forbes ( known for its video game coverage ) gave it a 10/10 i'm going to have to buy it now. don't forget that all critics agree and that it's a perfect ten, not just your everyday ten
you mean like a bo derek 10?
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On October 29 2016 05:19 ArtyK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 05:17 Charoisaur wrote:On October 29 2016 05:15 ArtyK wrote:On October 29 2016 05:14 Charoisaur wrote:On October 29 2016 05:12 ArtyK wrote:On October 29 2016 05:12 Charoisaur wrote:On October 29 2016 05:10 ArtyK wrote:On October 29 2016 05:09 Fango wrote:On October 29 2016 05:07 ArtyK wrote:
On a side note, foreigners took 8 maps off koreans so far before the groups are over.
Koreans are still favorites sure, but where are the people who said foreigners wouldn't take a single map :> No one predicted them to not take a single map. Just to not get out of any group Some TL guys did on various threads some months ago it wasn't known yet that the korean scene is collapsing And? This is still 200K for the winner and you're supposedly playing against weaker players this year :p pretty sure this affects the mentality of the players. I don't think it's a coincidence that foreigners are now catching up after 18 years of complete korean dominance at the exact same time all the teams are disbanding. right they instantly got way worse after leaving the practice house you think it's a coincidence foreigners can now suddenly compete? no, but i do think that this is a 500k prize pool tournament, and that no external problems should prevent a guy like solar to win against elazer
Why bother theere always be a reason. :D Koreans winning, foreigners just noobs no practice kek. Foreigners winning, Koreans Jetlag, sad, have got a bad meal for lunch. :>
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On October 29 2016 05:21 ArtyK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 05:21 [PkF] Wire wrote:On October 29 2016 05:20 ArtyK wrote:On October 29 2016 05:20 [PkF] Wire wrote:On October 29 2016 05:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On October 29 2016 05:17 Elentos wrote:
Maybe it's because of WESG but I really don't find these breaks long at all. And barely frequent. i haven't played or bought Overwatch. now that i found out Forbes ( known for its video game coverage ) gave it a 10/10 i'm going to have to buy it now. don't forget that all critics agree and that it's a perfect ten, not just your everyday ten but how do you tell the difference between a perfect 10 and a regular ass ugly 10? you do tell me the regular ass ugly 10 is still a worse game than starcraft 2?
every current game is worse than sc2 in my eyes, otherwise I wouldn't cling to that dying body with so much love
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On October 29 2016 05:21 sparklyresidue wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 05:20 Elentos wrote:On October 29 2016 05:20 sparklyresidue wrote:
HTF did Elazer beat Solar? Awesome for him, did not expect. ZvZ happened Right, which Solar is godly at.
Sometimes even god flips a coin and it lands on the wrong side.
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On October 29 2016 05:17 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 05:15 ArtyK wrote:On October 29 2016 05:14 Charoisaur wrote:On October 29 2016 05:12 ArtyK wrote:On October 29 2016 05:12 Charoisaur wrote:On October 29 2016 05:10 ArtyK wrote:On October 29 2016 05:09 Fango wrote:On October 29 2016 05:07 ArtyK wrote:
On a side note, foreigners took 8 maps off koreans so far before the groups are over.
Koreans are still favorites sure, but where are the people who said foreigners wouldn't take a single map :> No one predicted them to not take a single map. Just to not get out of any group Some TL guys did on various threads some months ago it wasn't known yet that the korean scene is collapsing And? This is still 200K for the winner and you're supposedly playing against weaker players this year :p pretty sure this affects the mentality of the players. I don't think it's a coincidence that foreigners are now catching up after 18 years of complete korean dominance at the exact same time all the teams are disbanding. right they instantly got way worse after leaving the practice house I think they've been aware of the situatio since long before the teams actually disbanded, and yeah that was bound to affect their training regimen
Most likely. I mentioned this earlier in the thread, but TotalBiscuit commented on this when Proleague was cancelled.
Cynicalbrit_official wrote:
Keeping GSL running shouldn't be a problem as long as Blizzard keeps their wallet open. The problem is filling it with top talent when you have no semi-pro scene, no up-and-comers and no teamhouse infrastructure.
More than all of that however, is keeping the morale of the Korean pros up. There were already some pretty reliable reports that a bunch of KeSPA Koreans did not practice hard for KeSPA cup because they knew this was coming. Motivation and morale over there is at an all time low and has been steadily declining since the region lock announcement.
What I think a lot of people don't realize is that Korean pros really valued playing in foreign countries. Not for prize money, but to actually get out and see the world and play in front of enthusiastic crowds. It was the #1 priority of every Korean player I've ever negotiated a contract with or tried to sign, way above salary.
Imagine after all that, you get told "we don't want you anymore". Heartbreaking. Now even if there was a reversal of the region lock, most of the Korean scene is teamless and would be reliant on precious few qualifier spots to be able to afford to come to a foreign event in the first place. Foreign teams don't wanna sign them because they can't use their players in events outside of Korea and Korean events are on at horrible times for the majority of the west and get poor viewership.
Source:
+ Show Spoiler +https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/583t7w/want_to_do_something_for_korean_sc2_help/d8y5loq/
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On October 29 2016 05:23 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 05:21 sparklyresidue wrote:On October 29 2016 05:20 Elentos wrote:On October 29 2016 05:20 sparklyresidue wrote:
HTF did Elazer beat Solar? Awesome for him, did not expect. ZvZ happened Right, which Solar is godly at. Sometimes even god flips a coin and it lands on the wrong side.
gods have coins with only heads, argument invalid
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EPT
