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On October 29 2016 06:51 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 06:50 Ej_ wrote:On October 29 2016 06:49 Charoisaur wrote:On October 29 2016 06:49 Wrathsc2 wrote:On October 29 2016 06:48 Charoisaur wrote:On October 29 2016 06:47 geokilla wrote:
Did the skill level of foreigners really increase?! no koreans got worse I disagree. Foreignors have gotten a lot better yeah after 18 years of korean domination suddenly foreigners magically caught up in skill. what if... what if WCS worked? in the way that koreans lost their will to practice?
If you are not willing to practice for 200K I feel sorry for you
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On October 29 2016 07:01 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 07:00 Cricketer12 wrote:
or maybe we just upset DRG retired Forget DRG man we lost San!
San won tournament before soO
San > soO
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On October 29 2016 07:01 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 07:00 Charoisaur wrote:On October 29 2016 06:58 Makro wrote:On October 29 2016 06:55 Cricketer12 wrote:On October 29 2016 06:54 Kerence wrote:On October 29 2016 06:50 Ej_ wrote:On October 29 2016 06:49 Charoisaur wrote:On October 29 2016 06:49 Wrathsc2 wrote:On October 29 2016 06:48 Charoisaur wrote:On October 29 2016 06:47 geokilla wrote:
Did the skill level of foreigners really increase?! no koreans got worse I disagree. Foreignors have gotten a lot better yeah after 18 years of korean domination suddenly foreigners magically caught up in skill. what if... what if WCS worked? Well, if the goal was having foreigners win more against Koreans, does it really matter if foreigners got better or Koreans got worse? The result is still the same. So I guess it did work if that was the goal. Probably both IMO. yea who cares about game quality, so long as the white guy wins sometimes when I say this I don't mean that WCS in itself is horrible, but your statement Kerence is everything i hate for goodness once since 6 years some white guys are winning on a more regular basis and people are losing their mind when white guys winning was forced by blizzard it's really sad it wasn't forced by Blizzard. It's the kespa forced switch that fucked both scenes :x. Which is Blizz fault a bit as well, but region lock didn't change much.
the kespa forced switch is the original sin and korean scene had no chance surviving it.
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On October 29 2016 07:01 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 07:00 Charoisaur wrote:On October 29 2016 06:58 Makro wrote:On October 29 2016 06:55 Cricketer12 wrote:On October 29 2016 06:54 Kerence wrote:On October 29 2016 06:50 Ej_ wrote:On October 29 2016 06:49 Charoisaur wrote:On October 29 2016 06:49 Wrathsc2 wrote:On October 29 2016 06:48 Charoisaur wrote:On October 29 2016 06:47 geokilla wrote:
Did the skill level of foreigners really increase?! no koreans got worse I disagree. Foreignors have gotten a lot better yeah after 18 years of korean domination suddenly foreigners magically caught up in skill. what if... what if WCS worked? Well, if the goal was having foreigners win more against Koreans, does it really matter if foreigners got better or Koreans got worse? The result is still the same. So I guess it did work if that was the goal. Probably both IMO. yea who cares about game quality, so long as the white guy wins sometimes when I say this I don't mean that WCS in itself is horrible, but your statement Kerence is everything i hate for goodness once since 6 years some white guys are winning on a more regular basis and people are losing their mind when white guys winning was forced by blizzard it's really sad it wasn't forced by Blizzard. It's the kespa forced switch that fucked both scenes :x. Which is Blizz fault a bit as well, but region lock didn't change much.
region lock killed the motivation of a lot of koreans which hurt the skill level of the korean scene
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United States97276 Posts
I like that Nerchio is being aggressive in game 3. Went much better for him when he was able to put the pressure on Solar
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On October 29 2016 07:02 Philozovic wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 06:51 Charoisaur wrote:On October 29 2016 06:50 Ej_ wrote:On October 29 2016 06:49 Charoisaur wrote:On October 29 2016 06:49 Wrathsc2 wrote:On October 29 2016 06:48 Charoisaur wrote:On October 29 2016 06:47 geokilla wrote:
Did the skill level of foreigners really increase?! no koreans got worse I disagree. Foreignors have gotten a lot better yeah after 18 years of korean domination suddenly foreigners magically caught up in skill. what if... what if WCS worked? in the way that koreans lost their will to practice? If you are not willing to practice for 200K I feel sorry for you
I think it's more generally for several months, not for this specific tournament. Of course that's going to make a difference.
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Leenock would have taken the other gold
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did Nerchio trick Solar entirely ?
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On October 29 2016 07:03 [PkF] Wire wrote:
did Nerchio trick Solar entirely ?
it seems not
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On October 29 2016 07:03 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 07:01 Poopi wrote:On October 29 2016 07:00 Charoisaur wrote:On October 29 2016 06:58 Makro wrote:On October 29 2016 06:55 Cricketer12 wrote:On October 29 2016 06:54 Kerence wrote:On October 29 2016 06:50 Ej_ wrote:On October 29 2016 06:49 Charoisaur wrote:On October 29 2016 06:49 Wrathsc2 wrote:On October 29 2016 06:48 Charoisaur wrote:
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no koreans got worse I disagree. Foreignors have gotten a lot better yeah after 18 years of korean domination suddenly foreigners magically caught up in skill. what if... what if WCS worked? Well, if the goal was having foreigners win more against Koreans, does it really matter if foreigners got better or Koreans got worse? The result is still the same. So I guess it did work if that was the goal. Probably both IMO. yea who cares about game quality, so long as the white guy wins sometimes when I say this I don't mean that WCS in itself is horrible, but your statement Kerence is everything i hate for goodness once since 6 years some white guys are winning on a more regular basis and people are losing their mind when white guys winning was forced by blizzard it's really sad it wasn't forced by Blizzard. It's the kespa forced switch that fucked both scenes :x. Which is Blizz fault a bit as well, but region lock didn't change much. region lock killed the motivation of a lot of koreans which hurt the skill level of the korean scene
what killed the motivation of a lot of koreans is that no one was watching them in korea
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On October 29 2016 07:03 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 07:03 [PkF] Wire wrote:
did Nerchio trick Solar entirely ? it seems not
I mean it's gold vs not gold
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this chewed out 'WCS Welfare' discussion is garbage can we just stop
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On October 29 2016 07:04 Makro wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 07:03 Charoisaur wrote:On October 29 2016 07:01 Poopi wrote:On October 29 2016 07:00 Charoisaur wrote:On October 29 2016 06:58 Makro wrote:On October 29 2016 06:55 Cricketer12 wrote:On October 29 2016 06:54 Kerence wrote:On October 29 2016 06:50 Ej_ wrote:On October 29 2016 06:49 Charoisaur wrote:On October 29 2016 06:49 Wrathsc2 wrote:
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I disagree. Foreignors have gotten a lot better yeah after 18 years of korean domination suddenly foreigners magically caught up in skill. what if... what if WCS worked? Well, if the goal was having foreigners win more against Koreans, does it really matter if foreigners got better or Koreans got worse? The result is still the same. So I guess it did work if that was the goal. Probably both IMO. yea who cares about game quality, so long as the white guy wins sometimes when I say this I don't mean that WCS in itself is horrible, but your statement Kerence is everything i hate for goodness once since 6 years some white guys are winning on a more regular basis and people are losing their mind when white guys winning was forced by blizzard it's really sad it wasn't forced by Blizzard. It's the kespa forced switch that fucked both scenes :x. Which is Blizz fault a bit as well, but region lock didn't change much. region lock killed the motivation of a lot of koreans which hurt the skill level of the korean scene what killed the motivation of a lot of koreans is that no one was watching them in korea
And then they didn't even get the chance to go outside Korea. I don't think that helped motivation much?
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France12906 Posts
On October 29 2016 07:01 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 07:00 Cricketer12 wrote:
or maybe we just upset DRG retired not at all
When did DRG retire?
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On October 29 2016 07:01 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 07:00 Die4Ever wrote:On October 29 2016 06:58 Makro wrote:On October 29 2016 06:55 Cricketer12 wrote:On October 29 2016 06:54 Kerence wrote:On October 29 2016 06:50 Ej_ wrote:On October 29 2016 06:49 Charoisaur wrote:On October 29 2016 06:49 Wrathsc2 wrote:On October 29 2016 06:48 Charoisaur wrote:On October 29 2016 06:47 geokilla wrote:
Did the skill level of foreigners really increase?! no koreans got worse I disagree. Foreignors have gotten a lot better yeah after 18 years of korean domination suddenly foreigners magically caught up in skill. what if... what if WCS worked? Well, if the goal was having foreigners win more against Koreans, does it really matter if foreigners got better or Koreans got worse? The result is still the same. So I guess it did work if that was the goal. Probably both IMO. yea who cares about game quality, so long as the white guy wins sometimes when I say this I don't mean that WCS in itself is horrible, but your statement Kerence is everything i hate for goodness once since 6 years some white guys are winning on a more regular basis and people are losing their mind or maybe people are upset about multiple of the biggest and longest running korean teams and proleague closing down you have to be kind of dimwitted to think that Proleague closing down has anything to do with WCS
region lock diminishes motivation, lower motivation means lower skill, less exciting games, worse viewership
and korean players can get fans while playing in foreign tournaments,koreans are allowed to watch too, or even if they don't the player can get hyped up cause they just recently won a dreamhack with koreans
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On October 29 2016 07:04 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
this chewed out 'WCS Welfare' discussion is garbage can we just stop
the game is live now and I'm back to nibbling my lower lip
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On October 29 2016 07:04 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
this chewed out 'WCS Welfare' discussion is garbage can we just stop
if you exited for diablo 64 racing, will you enter for starcraft go?
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France12906 Posts
On October 29 2016 07:05 Kerence wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 07:04 Makro wrote:On October 29 2016 07:03 Charoisaur wrote:On October 29 2016 07:01 Poopi wrote:On October 29 2016 07:00 Charoisaur wrote:On October 29 2016 06:58 Makro wrote:On October 29 2016 06:55 Cricketer12 wrote:On October 29 2016 06:54 Kerence wrote:On October 29 2016 06:50 Ej_ wrote:On October 29 2016 06:49 Charoisaur wrote:
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yeah after 18 years of korean domination suddenly foreigners magically caught up in skill. what if... what if WCS worked? Well, if the goal was having foreigners win more against Koreans, does it really matter if foreigners got better or Koreans got worse? The result is still the same. So I guess it did work if that was the goal. Probably both IMO. yea who cares about game quality, so long as the white guy wins sometimes when I say this I don't mean that WCS in itself is horrible, but your statement Kerence is everything i hate for goodness once since 6 years some white guys are winning on a more regular basis and people are losing their mind when white guys winning was forced by blizzard it's really sad it wasn't forced by Blizzard. It's the kespa forced switch that fucked both scenes :x. Which is Blizz fault a bit as well, but region lock didn't change much. region lock killed the motivation of a lot of koreans which hurt the skill level of the korean scene what killed the motivation of a lot of koreans is that no one was watching them in korea And then they didn't even get the chance to go outside Korea. I don't think that helped motivation much?
You realize most kespa koreans never went outside of Korea anyways? xD
It fucked with PartinG and the likes so 2-3 guys max.
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There was this game last year in Proleague where Solar took a gold on that one map (was it Expedition Lost?) aggressively against soO. And soO just outmacroed him wiithout a gold.
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On October 29 2016 07:05 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2016 07:01 Shellshock wrote:On October 29 2016 07:00 Cricketer12 wrote:
or maybe we just upset DRG retired not at all When did DRG retire?
he joined military at the beginning of the month
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