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Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
October 28 2016 22:02 GMT
#2101
On October 29 2016 06:51 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 06:50 Ej_ wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:49 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:49 Wrathsc2 wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:48 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:47 geokilla wrote:
Did the skill level of foreigners really increase?!

no koreans got worse


I disagree. Foreignors have gotten a lot better

yeah after 18 years of korean domination suddenly foreigners magically caught up in skill.

what if... what if

WCS worked?

in the way that koreans lost their will to practice?


If you are not willing to practice for 200K I feel sorry for you
INnoVation is the absolute best | I wept for i knew his words to be true
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
October 28 2016 22:02 GMT
#2102
On October 29 2016 07:01 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 07:00 Cricketer12 wrote:
or maybe we just upset DRG retired

Forget DRG man we lost San!

San won tournament before soO

San > soO
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
October 28 2016 22:02 GMT
#2103
On October 29 2016 07:01 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 07:00 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:58 Makro wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:55 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:54 Kerence wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:50 Ej_ wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:49 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:49 Wrathsc2 wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:48 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:47 geokilla wrote:
Did the skill level of foreigners really increase?!

no koreans got worse


I disagree. Foreignors have gotten a lot better

yeah after 18 years of korean domination suddenly foreigners magically caught up in skill.

what if... what if

WCS worked?


Well, if the goal was having foreigners win more against Koreans, does it really matter if foreigners got better or Koreans got worse? The result is still the same. So I guess it did work if that was the goal.

Probably both IMO.

yea who cares about game quality, so long as the white guy wins sometimes

when I say this I don't mean that WCS in itself is horrible, but your statement Kerence is everything i hate

for goodness once since 6 years some white guys are winning on a more regular basis and people are losing their mind

when white guys winning was forced by blizzard it's really sad

it wasn't forced by Blizzard. It's the kespa forced switch that fucked both scenes :x. Which is Blizz fault a bit as well, but region lock didn't change much.

the kespa forced switch is the original sin and korean scene had no chance surviving it.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16085 Posts
October 28 2016 22:03 GMT
#2104
On October 29 2016 07:01 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 07:00 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:58 Makro wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:55 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:54 Kerence wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:50 Ej_ wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:49 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:49 Wrathsc2 wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:48 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:47 geokilla wrote:
Did the skill level of foreigners really increase?!

no koreans got worse


I disagree. Foreignors have gotten a lot better

yeah after 18 years of korean domination suddenly foreigners magically caught up in skill.

what if... what if

WCS worked?


Well, if the goal was having foreigners win more against Koreans, does it really matter if foreigners got better or Koreans got worse? The result is still the same. So I guess it did work if that was the goal.

Probably both IMO.

yea who cares about game quality, so long as the white guy wins sometimes

when I say this I don't mean that WCS in itself is horrible, but your statement Kerence is everything i hate

for goodness once since 6 years some white guys are winning on a more regular basis and people are losing their mind

when white guys winning was forced by blizzard it's really sad

it wasn't forced by Blizzard. It's the kespa forced switch that fucked both scenes :x. Which is Blizz fault a bit as well, but region lock didn't change much.


region lock killed the motivation of a lot of koreans which hurt the skill level of the korean scene
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 28 2016 22:03 GMT
#2105
I like that Nerchio is being aggressive in game 3. Went much better for him when he was able to put the pressure on Solar
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Kerence
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1817 Posts
October 28 2016 22:03 GMT
#2106
On October 29 2016 07:02 Philozovic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 06:51 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:50 Ej_ wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:49 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:49 Wrathsc2 wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:48 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:47 geokilla wrote:
Did the skill level of foreigners really increase?!

no koreans got worse


I disagree. Foreignors have gotten a lot better

yeah after 18 years of korean domination suddenly foreigners magically caught up in skill.

what if... what if

WCS worked?

in the way that koreans lost their will to practice?


If you are not willing to practice for 200K I feel sorry for you

I think it's more generally for several months, not for this specific tournament. Of course that's going to make a difference.
I am here in the shadows.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55589 Posts
October 28 2016 22:03 GMT
#2107
Leenock would have taken the other gold
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
October 28 2016 22:03 GMT
#2108
did Nerchio trick Solar entirely ?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
October 28 2016 22:03 GMT
#2109
On October 29 2016 07:03 [PkF] Wire wrote:
did Nerchio trick Solar entirely ?

it seems not
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
October 28 2016 22:04 GMT
#2110
On October 29 2016 07:03 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 07:01 Poopi wrote:
On October 29 2016 07:00 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:58 Makro wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:55 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:54 Kerence wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:50 Ej_ wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:49 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:49 Wrathsc2 wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:48 Charoisaur wrote:
[quote]
no koreans got worse


I disagree. Foreignors have gotten a lot better

yeah after 18 years of korean domination suddenly foreigners magically caught up in skill.

what if... what if

WCS worked?


Well, if the goal was having foreigners win more against Koreans, does it really matter if foreigners got better or Koreans got worse? The result is still the same. So I guess it did work if that was the goal.

Probably both IMO.

yea who cares about game quality, so long as the white guy wins sometimes

when I say this I don't mean that WCS in itself is horrible, but your statement Kerence is everything i hate

for goodness once since 6 years some white guys are winning on a more regular basis and people are losing their mind

when white guys winning was forced by blizzard it's really sad

it wasn't forced by Blizzard. It's the kespa forced switch that fucked both scenes :x. Which is Blizz fault a bit as well, but region lock didn't change much.


region lock killed the motivation of a lot of koreans which hurt the skill level of the korean scene

what killed the motivation of a lot of koreans is that no one was watching them in korea
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
October 28 2016 22:04 GMT
#2111
On October 29 2016 07:03 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 07:03 [PkF] Wire wrote:
did Nerchio trick Solar entirely ?

it seems not

I mean it's gold vs not gold
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
October 28 2016 22:04 GMT
#2112
this chewed out 'WCS Welfare' discussion is garbage can we just stop
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Kerence
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1817 Posts
October 28 2016 22:05 GMT
#2113
On October 29 2016 07:04 Makro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 07:03 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2016 07:01 Poopi wrote:
On October 29 2016 07:00 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:58 Makro wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:55 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:54 Kerence wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:50 Ej_ wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:49 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:49 Wrathsc2 wrote:
[quote]

I disagree. Foreignors have gotten a lot better

yeah after 18 years of korean domination suddenly foreigners magically caught up in skill.

what if... what if

WCS worked?


Well, if the goal was having foreigners win more against Koreans, does it really matter if foreigners got better or Koreans got worse? The result is still the same. So I guess it did work if that was the goal.

Probably both IMO.

yea who cares about game quality, so long as the white guy wins sometimes

when I say this I don't mean that WCS in itself is horrible, but your statement Kerence is everything i hate

for goodness once since 6 years some white guys are winning on a more regular basis and people are losing their mind

when white guys winning was forced by blizzard it's really sad

it wasn't forced by Blizzard. It's the kespa forced switch that fucked both scenes :x. Which is Blizz fault a bit as well, but region lock didn't change much.


region lock killed the motivation of a lot of koreans which hurt the skill level of the korean scene

what killed the motivation of a lot of koreans is that no one was watching them in korea

And then they didn't even get the chance to go outside Korea. I don't think that helped motivation much?
I am here in the shadows.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13011 Posts
October 28 2016 22:05 GMT
#2114
On October 29 2016 07:01 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 07:00 Cricketer12 wrote:
or maybe we just upset DRG retired

not at all

When did DRG retire?
WriterMaru
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17744 Posts
October 28 2016 22:05 GMT
#2115
On October 29 2016 07:01 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 07:00 Die4Ever wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:58 Makro wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:55 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:54 Kerence wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:50 Ej_ wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:49 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:49 Wrathsc2 wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:48 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:47 geokilla wrote:
Did the skill level of foreigners really increase?!

no koreans got worse


I disagree. Foreignors have gotten a lot better

yeah after 18 years of korean domination suddenly foreigners magically caught up in skill.

what if... what if

WCS worked?


Well, if the goal was having foreigners win more against Koreans, does it really matter if foreigners got better or Koreans got worse? The result is still the same. So I guess it did work if that was the goal.

Probably both IMO.

yea who cares about game quality, so long as the white guy wins sometimes

when I say this I don't mean that WCS in itself is horrible, but your statement Kerence is everything i hate

for goodness once since 6 years some white guys are winning on a more regular basis and people are losing their mind

or maybe people are upset about multiple of the biggest and longest running korean teams and proleague closing down

you have to be kind of dimwitted to think that Proleague closing down has anything to do with WCS

region lock diminishes motivation, lower motivation means lower skill, less exciting games, worse viewership
and korean players can get fans while playing in foreign tournaments,koreans are allowed to watch too, or even if they don't the player can get hyped up cause they just recently won a dreamhack with koreans
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
October 28 2016 22:05 GMT
#2116
On October 29 2016 07:04 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
this chewed out 'WCS Welfare' discussion is garbage can we just stop

the game is live now and I'm back to nibbling my lower lip
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
October 28 2016 22:05 GMT
#2117
On October 29 2016 07:04 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
this chewed out 'WCS Welfare' discussion is garbage can we just stop

if you exited for diablo 64 racing, will you enter for starcraft go?
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13011 Posts
October 28 2016 22:05 GMT
#2118
On October 29 2016 07:05 Kerence wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 07:04 Makro wrote:
On October 29 2016 07:03 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2016 07:01 Poopi wrote:
On October 29 2016 07:00 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:58 Makro wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:55 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:54 Kerence wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:50 Ej_ wrote:
On October 29 2016 06:49 Charoisaur wrote:
[quote]
yeah after 18 years of korean domination suddenly foreigners magically caught up in skill.

what if... what if

WCS worked?


Well, if the goal was having foreigners win more against Koreans, does it really matter if foreigners got better or Koreans got worse? The result is still the same. So I guess it did work if that was the goal.

Probably both IMO.

yea who cares about game quality, so long as the white guy wins sometimes

when I say this I don't mean that WCS in itself is horrible, but your statement Kerence is everything i hate

for goodness once since 6 years some white guys are winning on a more regular basis and people are losing their mind

when white guys winning was forced by blizzard it's really sad

it wasn't forced by Blizzard. It's the kespa forced switch that fucked both scenes :x. Which is Blizz fault a bit as well, but region lock didn't change much.


region lock killed the motivation of a lot of koreans which hurt the skill level of the korean scene

what killed the motivation of a lot of koreans is that no one was watching them in korea

And then they didn't even get the chance to go outside Korea. I don't think that helped motivation much?

You realize most kespa koreans never went outside of Korea anyways? xD
It fucked with PartinG and the likes so 2-3 guys max.
WriterMaru
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55589 Posts
October 28 2016 22:05 GMT
#2119
There was this game last year in Proleague where Solar took a gold on that one map (was it Expedition Lost?) aggressively against soO. And soO just outmacroed him wiithout a gold.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
October 28 2016 22:06 GMT
#2120
On October 29 2016 07:05 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2016 07:01 Shellshock wrote:
On October 29 2016 07:00 Cricketer12 wrote:
or maybe we just upset DRG retired

not at all

When did DRG retire?

he joined military at the beginning of the month
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
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