On August 14 2016 08:16 Nebuchad wrote:
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Well, you do yourself. But there is still no rational reason why watching an event with 7 koreans is inherently better than watching an event with 4 koreans.

Except I prefer watching players I care about. Matches are better when I actually care about who wins. Since I watch mostly Koreans I know those players better. So it's certainly better with 7 players I care about than 4 (I'm not saying there are no foreigners I like, but there are certainly more Koreans I care about). And the Korean tournaments are not on times where I can watch them live. So no Koreans at weekend tournaments means there are fewer players I care about.

In that case you should also be sad that the pre2015 Koreans were banned, cause you would have even more than 7 back then. Again, the problem isn't wanting more Koreans, the problem is wanting 7 koreans instead of 4 and being really devastated that this number changed in such a meaningless fashion.

Well obviously that goes without saying. I don't want region lock to begin with. But if we have to have region lock I would prefer the 2015 model over the 2016 one. Also, I normally try not to complain about it to begin with, because I don't really feel it adds anything to complain, I just don't watch instead.

Well then your position is rational, but it doesn't go without saying at all. Part of why we got the 2015 system is because the community pushed for it. The 2016 system is the one who gets shit on, not region locking in general. There was no talk of WCS welfare in 2015, that system went swimmingly.

I meant it goes without saying that:

On August 14 2016 08:23 Nebuchad wrote:
In that case you should also be sad that the pre2015 Koreans were banned

as in me personally not liking it.

And there might be less complaining about it if there were still Koreans at weekend tournaments, but who knows.

Honestly though, is there really that much complaining to begin with really, are you sure that it isn't just a few vocal people? Just like there used to be a few people who posted stuff like "Oh, only Koreans left in the tournament, time to stop watching." back then.

If nobody speaks against them, then "a few vocal people" become the voice of the community.

So I'm speaking against them.

The truth is that it feels more "welfare" than last year because there are more tournaments where this region locking actually applies. Last year we had three seasons which are these championships now, additionally we now have other "weekend" wcs tournaments region locked as well. That wasn't a thing last year. That's the reason people shout these statements. Another truth is (probably) that if it wasn't for that region lock we probably wouldn't have sc2 at any dreamhack/IEM this year.

There aren't more tournaments where it applies, there are less tournaments where it doesn't apply.

Obviously the whole system changed and weekend tournaments is all what is left of wcs, but looking at it from the "more region locked tournaments" pov is totally valid.

This sentence explains why it isn't valid, then concludes that it is valid anyway...

TheDougler

Canada8313 Posts

August 14 2016 00:03 GMT

#3043

On August 14 2016 09:02 [PkF] Wire wrote:

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Is it going to be a proper power rank ? You should make it before Blizzcon and then we see if your analysis was right.

YES!!!

Oh, THAT is what needs to happen.

My god... With a power rank to motivate us? We may see shitposting the likes of which we haven't seen since MLG Dallas 2011...

Cricketer12

United States14000 Posts

August 14 2016 00:04 GMT

#3044

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/closed-threads/468614-wcs-global-finals-2014-day-1

this is what we must aspire to

Penev

28536 Posts

August 14 2016 00:04 GMT

#3045

pretty sick game

Alchemik

Poland7124 Posts

August 14 2016 00:04 GMT

#3046

On August 14 2016 09:03 Topin wrote:

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pretty good series

yeah but what did they do

Elentos

55591 Posts

August 14 2016 00:04 GMT

#3047

On August 14 2016 09:03 Phredxor wrote:
3-3 vs 1-0.

I think 5 3/3 chargelots can kill Polt's entire ground army

Eiltonn

Germany307 Posts

August 14 2016 00:04 GMT

#3048

finally friggin upgrades thx polt <3

Poopfeast 024

Gambia437 Posts

August 14 2016 00:04 GMT

#3049

1-1 vs 3-3

what the fuck, Polt.

[PkF] Wire

France24239 Posts

August 14 2016 00:04 GMT

#3050

On August 14 2016 09:04 Cricketer12 wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/closed-threads/468614-wcs-global-finals-2014-day-1

this is what we must aspire to

so inspirational

KtJ

United States3514 Posts

August 14 2016 00:04 GMT

#3051

On August 14 2016 09:04 Cricketer12 wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/closed-threads/468614-wcs-global-finals-2014-day-1

this is what we must aspire to

The single greatest LR of all time.

Cricketer12

United States14000 Posts

August 14 2016 00:05 GMT

#3052

On August 14 2016 09:04 Alchemik wrote:

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yeah but what did they do

muta v muta festor and roach v roach and ling bling v ling bling...ultras happened as well...

Cricketer12

United States14000 Posts

August 14 2016 00:05 GMT

#3053

I need ideas for my 10k blog guys

[PkF] Wire

France24239 Posts

August 14 2016 00:06 GMT

#3054

this is so incredibly scrappy

intotheheart

Canada33091 Posts

August 14 2016 00:06 GMT

#3055

On August 14 2016 09:03 TheDougler wrote:

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YES!!!

Oh, THAT is what needs to happen.

My god... With a power rank to motivate us? We may see shitposting the likes of which we haven't seen since MLG Dallas 2011...

It'll happen, trust.