[WCS] Summer Tour DreamHack Montreal 2016 - Page 152

Makro

France16890 Posts

August 13 2016 23:59 GMT

#3021

i think what we witnessed was a decent definition of tilt, if he didn't tilt he would have back after getting that third cc

The_Red_Viper

19533 Posts

August 13 2016 23:59 GMT

#3022

On August 14 2016 08:50 Nebuchad wrote:

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On August 14 2016 08:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:

On August 14 2016 08:39 Nebuchad wrote:

On August 14 2016 08:36 Kerence wrote:

On August 14 2016 08:29 Nebuchad wrote:

On August 14 2016 08:26 Kerence wrote:

On August 14 2016 08:23 Nebuchad wrote:

On August 14 2016 08:21 Kerence wrote:

On August 14 2016 08:16 Nebuchad wrote:

On August 14 2016 08:10 Kerence wrote:
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Eh, personally at least I watched some of the WCS games in 2015. I haven't even bothered to watch most of the weekend tournaments outside of a few specific players I care about in 2016. I've even been skipping the finals lately. This DH is probably the most I've watched a WCS tournament this year. I'd say 2015 was better.

Well, you do yourself. But there is still no rational reason why watching an event with 7 koreans is inherently better than watching an event with 4 koreans.

Except I prefer watching players I care about. Matches are better when I actually care about who wins. Since I watch mostly Koreans I know those players better. So it's certainly better with 7 players I care about than 4 (I'm not saying there are no foreigners I like, but there are certainly more Koreans I care about). And the Korean tournaments are not on times where I can watch them live. So no Koreans at weekend tournaments means there are fewer players I care about.

In that case you should also be sad that the pre2015 Koreans were banned, cause you would have even more than 7 back then. Again, the problem isn't wanting more Koreans, the problem is wanting 7 koreans instead of 4 and being really devastated that this number changed in such a meaningless fashion.

Well obviously that goes without saying. I don't want region lock to begin with. But if we have to have region lock I would prefer the 2015 model over the 2016 one. Also, I normally try not to complain about it to begin with, because I don't really feel it adds anything to complain, I just don't watch instead.

Well then your position is rational, but it doesn't go without saying at all. Part of why we got the 2015 system is because the community pushed for it. The 2016 system is the one who gets shit on, not region locking in general. There was no talk of WCS welfare in 2015, that system went swimmingly.

I meant it goes without saying that:

On August 14 2016 08:23 Nebuchad wrote:
In that case you should also be sad that the pre2015 Koreans were banned

as in me personally not liking it.

And there might be less complaining about it if there were still Koreans at weekend tournaments, but who knows.

Honestly though, is there really that much complaining to begin with really, are you sure that it isn't just a few vocal people? Just like there used to be a few people who posted stuff like "Oh, only Koreans left in the tournament, time to stop watching." back then.

If nobody speaks against them, then "a few vocal people" become the voice of the community.

So I'm speaking against them.

The truth is that it feels more "welfare" than last year because there are more tournaments where this region locking actually applies. Last year we had three seasons which are these championships now, additionally we now have other "weekend" wcs tournaments region locked as well. That wasn't a thing last year. That's the reason people shout these statements. Another truth is (probably) that if it wasn't for that region lock we probably wouldn't have sc2 at any dreamhack/IEM this year.

There aren't more tournaments where it applies, there are less tournaments where it doesn't apply.

Meh, all these dreamhacks were open to anyone last year, now they are not. More tournaments where region lock actually applies. Last year there only was the big WCS tournaments for that.
Obviously the whole system changed and weekend tournaments is all what is left of wcs, but looking at it from the "more region locked tournaments" pov is totally valid.

TheDougler

Canada8304 Posts

August 13 2016 23:59 GMT

#3023

On August 14 2016 08:58 Cricketer12 wrote:

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still no where near blizzcon 2014 level

True, but we've got time. I'm just upping my game, gotta prove myself WORTHY of the power rank.

Cricketer12

United States13977 Posts

August 13 2016 23:59 GMT

#3024

On August 14 2016 08:58 blade55555 wrote:
As a note, I guess chargelots are never made in pvt anymore? Just realized I haven't seen any in the PvT's I have seen, even though Protoss will have 2k minerals and no gas.

why make zealots? they aren't adepts

Phredxor

New Zealand15076 Posts

August 13 2016 23:59 GMT

#3025

On August 14 2016 08:58 Cricketer12 wrote:

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still no where near blizzcon 2014 level

If it got deleted, did it ever happen? Or was it just closed, i cant even remember.

intotheheart

Canada33091 Posts

August 13 2016 23:59 GMT

#3026

On August 14 2016 08:59 Cricketer12 wrote:

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when can we expect said blog btw?

Hopefully by the end of the weekend. If nobody has new suggestions within an hour, I will set the list in stone.

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ZigguratOfUr

Iraq16955 Posts

August 14 2016 00:00 GMT

#3027

They are usually later in the game, since adepts scale poorly, but maybe Ptitdrogo doesn't do that.

Elentos

55553 Posts

August 14 2016 00:00 GMT

#3028

I think not having charge doesn't hurt until the super late game when you mined out every gas you can access. I think there was a game in GSL season 1 where Zest only won because he warped in 8k minerals worth of chargelots after mining out every last bit of gas.