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[WCS] Summer Tour DreamHack Montreal 2016 - Page 128

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D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
August 13 2016 22:36 GMT
#2541
On August 14 2016 07:35 geokilla wrote:
WCS Welfare for you guys!

Huh?
why even
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
August 13 2016 22:36 GMT
#2542
TRUE will win this tournament. Everyone here is several level below TRUE
rip passion
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
August 13 2016 22:36 GMT
#2543
On August 14 2016 07:35 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 07:34 ArtyK wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:33 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:31 Ej_ wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
That's the weak point of banning the highest skilled chunk of players. If one decides to actually live in the place and follow the rules, he'll easily top the competition.

like that time TRUE got dunked on during HSC

There's always an exception to the rule. But I'm fairly sure you'll agree with me that in whatever foreign tournament TRUE decides to play, he'll be a favourite to win.


id argue nerchio neeb or one of the terrans over true

I'd rate TRUE higher than any foreign pro. I'm ready to bet 50 bucks that TRUE won't lose to any pro in a Bo21 series.


i mean bo21 is unlikely to happen so lets stay on bo5 - bo7s shall we :D

TRUE definetly has strong zvp and zvz but idk his zvt is shaky ever since he came to us
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
TL+ Member
lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
August 13 2016 22:36 GMT
#2544
Jesus Christ Hydra..
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 13 2016 22:36 GMT
#2545
Did someone call in the exterminator?
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 13 2016 22:36 GMT
#2546
On August 14 2016 07:35 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 07:34 ArtyK wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:33 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:31 Ej_ wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
That's the weak point of banning the highest skilled chunk of players. If one decides to actually live in the place and follow the rules, he'll easily top the competition.

like that time TRUE got dunked on during HSC

There's always an exception to the rule. But I'm fairly sure you'll agree with me that in whatever foreign tournament TRUE decides to play, he'll be a favourite to win.


id argue nerchio neeb or one of the terrans over true

I'd rate TRUE higher than any foreign pro. I'm ready to bet 50 bucks that TRUE won't lose to any pro in a Bo21 series.


Amusing bet. No way to verify it, so it's pretty hollow too. TRUE's never defeated Neeb for one.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2016 22:36 GMT
#2547
On August 14 2016 07:36 ArtyK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 07:35 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:34 ArtyK wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:33 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:31 Ej_ wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
That's the weak point of banning the highest skilled chunk of players. If one decides to actually live in the place and follow the rules, he'll easily top the competition.

like that time TRUE got dunked on during HSC

There's always an exception to the rule. But I'm fairly sure you'll agree with me that in whatever foreign tournament TRUE decides to play, he'll be a favourite to win.


id argue nerchio neeb or one of the terrans over true

I'd rate TRUE higher than any foreign pro. I'm ready to bet 50 bucks that TRUE won't lose to any pro in a Bo21 series.


i mean bo21 is unlikely to happen so lets stay on bo5 - bo7s shall we :D

TRUE definetly has strong zvp and zvz but idk his zvt is shaky ever since he came to us

his zvt has always been trash
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 13 2016 22:37 GMT
#2548
On August 14 2016 07:36 ArtyK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 07:35 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:34 ArtyK wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:33 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:31 Ej_ wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
That's the weak point of banning the highest skilled chunk of players. If one decides to actually live in the place and follow the rules, he'll easily top the competition.

like that time TRUE got dunked on during HSC

There's always an exception to the rule. But I'm fairly sure you'll agree with me that in whatever foreign tournament TRUE decides to play, he'll be a favourite to win.


id argue nerchio neeb or one of the terrans over true

I'd rate TRUE higher than any foreign pro. I'm ready to bet 50 bucks that TRUE won't lose to any pro in a Bo21 series.


i mean bo21 is unlikely to happen so lets stay on bo5 - bo7s shall we :D

TRUE definetly has strong zvp and zvz but idk his zvt is shaky ever since he came to us

The idea behind the bo21 is that a single bo5 or a single bo7 does not indicate the better player. Only numerous games over a period of time determine that.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
August 13 2016 22:37 GMT
#2549
On August 14 2016 07:36 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 07:36 ArtyK wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:35 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:34 ArtyK wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:33 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:31 Ej_ wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
That's the weak point of banning the highest skilled chunk of players. If one decides to actually live in the place and follow the rules, he'll easily top the competition.

like that time TRUE got dunked on during HSC

There's always an exception to the rule. But I'm fairly sure you'll agree with me that in whatever foreign tournament TRUE decides to play, he'll be a favourite to win.


id argue nerchio neeb or one of the terrans over true

I'd rate TRUE higher than any foreign pro. I'm ready to bet 50 bucks that TRUE won't lose to any pro in a Bo21 series.


i mean bo21 is unlikely to happen so lets stay on bo5 - bo7s shall we :D

TRUE definetly has strong zvp and zvz but idk his zvt is shaky ever since he came to us

his zvt has always been trash


that tends to happen when you play mass ling bling into muta
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
TL+ Member
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
August 13 2016 22:38 GMT
#2550
On August 14 2016 07:37 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 07:36 ArtyK wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:35 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:34 ArtyK wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:33 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:31 Ej_ wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
That's the weak point of banning the highest skilled chunk of players. If one decides to actually live in the place and follow the rules, he'll easily top the competition.

like that time TRUE got dunked on during HSC

There's always an exception to the rule. But I'm fairly sure you'll agree with me that in whatever foreign tournament TRUE decides to play, he'll be a favourite to win.


id argue nerchio neeb or one of the terrans over true

I'd rate TRUE higher than any foreign pro. I'm ready to bet 50 bucks that TRUE won't lose to any pro in a Bo21 series.


i mean bo21 is unlikely to happen so lets stay on bo5 - bo7s shall we :D

TRUE definetly has strong zvp and zvz but idk his zvt is shaky ever since he came to us

The idea behind the bo21 is that a single bo5 or a single bo7 does not indicate the better player. Only numerous games over a period of time determine that.


well then what have we been doing wrong all those years!
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2016 22:38 GMT
#2551
On August 14 2016 07:37 ArtyK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 07:36 Ej_ wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:36 ArtyK wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:35 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:34 ArtyK wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:33 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:31 Ej_ wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
That's the weak point of banning the highest skilled chunk of players. If one decides to actually live in the place and follow the rules, he'll easily top the competition.

like that time TRUE got dunked on during HSC

There's always an exception to the rule. But I'm fairly sure you'll agree with me that in whatever foreign tournament TRUE decides to play, he'll be a favourite to win.


id argue nerchio neeb or one of the terrans over true

I'd rate TRUE higher than any foreign pro. I'm ready to bet 50 bucks that TRUE won't lose to any pro in a Bo21 series.


i mean bo21 is unlikely to happen so lets stay on bo5 - bo7s shall we :D

TRUE definetly has strong zvp and zvz but idk his zvt is shaky ever since he came to us

his zvt has always been trash


that tends to happen when you play mass ling bling into muta

it was also kinda trashy in HotS
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
August 13 2016 22:38 GMT
#2552
Sure.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 13 2016 22:38 GMT
#2553
But what I originally wanted to say is that I think that pretty much any Korean is going to win over foreigners and be the favourite in the current system. They are peak players. Very few highly skilled players cannot create a good environment for foreigners to improve .
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
August 13 2016 22:38 GMT
#2554
DROGO NEXT, pls dont tilt :'(
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
TL+ Member
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7159 Posts
August 13 2016 22:38 GMT
#2555
Fuck true )
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
August 13 2016 22:39 GMT
#2556
On August 14 2016 07:38 ArtyK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 07:37 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:36 ArtyK wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:35 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:34 ArtyK wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:33 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:31 Ej_ wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
That's the weak point of banning the highest skilled chunk of players. If one decides to actually live in the place and follow the rules, he'll easily top the competition.

like that time TRUE got dunked on during HSC

There's always an exception to the rule. But I'm fairly sure you'll agree with me that in whatever foreign tournament TRUE decides to play, he'll be a favourite to win.


id argue nerchio neeb or one of the terrans over true

I'd rate TRUE higher than any foreign pro. I'm ready to bet 50 bucks that TRUE won't lose to any pro in a Bo21 series.


i mean bo21 is unlikely to happen so lets stay on bo5 - bo7s shall we :D

TRUE definetly has strong zvp and zvz but idk his zvt is shaky ever since he came to us

The idea behind the bo21 is that a single bo5 or a single bo7 does not indicate the better player. Only numerous games over a period of time determine that.


well then what have we been doing wrong all those years!

No need to derail the discussion like that. I'm just stating my opinion and trying to argue for it, I'm not saying it's the god-tier knowledge bomb that you guys missed all life.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12387 Posts
August 13 2016 22:39 GMT
#2557
On August 14 2016 07:37 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 07:36 ArtyK wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:35 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:34 ArtyK wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:33 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:31 Ej_ wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
That's the weak point of banning the highest skilled chunk of players. If one decides to actually live in the place and follow the rules, he'll easily top the competition.

like that time TRUE got dunked on during HSC

There's always an exception to the rule. But I'm fairly sure you'll agree with me that in whatever foreign tournament TRUE decides to play, he'll be a favourite to win.


id argue nerchio neeb or one of the terrans over true

I'd rate TRUE higher than any foreign pro. I'm ready to bet 50 bucks that TRUE won't lose to any pro in a Bo21 series.


i mean bo21 is unlikely to happen so lets stay on bo5 - bo7s shall we :D

TRUE definetly has strong zvp and zvz but idk his zvt is shaky ever since he came to us

The idea behind the bo21 is that a single bo5 or a single bo7 does not indicate the better player. Only numerous games over a period of time determine that.


The idea behind the bo21 is that preparing for a series is cheating, and that your wins aren't as legitimate as doing a ladder macro build 21 times.
No will to live, no wish to die
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3143 Posts
August 13 2016 22:39 GMT
#2558
On August 14 2016 07:38 Luolis wrote:
Fuck true )


its ok welmu got the better accent of the two
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 13 2016 22:40 GMT
#2559
On August 14 2016 07:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
But what I originally wanted to say is that I think that pretty much any Korean is going to win over foreigners and be the favourite in the current system. They are peak players. Very few highly skilled players cannot create a good environment for foreigners to improve .

That's also wrong. Koreans outside Korea are nothing more than people who chase the easier competition.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 13 2016 22:40 GMT
#2560
On August 14 2016 07:35 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2016 07:34 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:32 Penev wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:31 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
That's the weak point of banning the highest skilled chunk of players. If one decides to actually live in the place and follow the rules, he'll easily top the competition.


Most foreigners that go to Korea come out looking worse tbf.

At first


And later too.

On August 14 2016 07:33 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:31 Ej_ wrote:
On August 14 2016 07:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
That's the weak point of banning the highest skilled chunk of players. If one decides to actually live in the place and follow the rules, he'll easily top the competition.

like that time TRUE got dunked on during HSC

There's always an exception to the rule. But I'm fairly sure you'll agree with me that in whatever foreign tournament TRUE decides to play, he'll be a favourite to win.


Not really. He has a chance, but he isn't a top Korean.

No not later too, look at Harstem for instance


He did win a few tournaments, but still drops maps all over the place against weak opponents. I don't think his form is any better than before he went to Korea. There are some players that have improved like HuK or Scarlett, but many more who came out worse than before like Stephano or Thorzain.
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