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Eiltonn
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany307 Posts
August 10 2016 10:40 GMT
#321
On August 10 2016 19:37 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 19:34 Eiltonn wrote:
On August 10 2016 19:33 opisska wrote:
Why does noone ever build a raven? Surely it's cheaper than endless scans.


because it needs fking starport+techlab a really unfavorable combo. i think its pretty dumb that our only detection unit is t3


Sure, losing the game is better than having to swap two buildings ... But this is a mindset that really has been there for the whole 6 years - where people just refuse to do something because it's "too expensive" and they die repeatedly because of it. Surprisingly it always affects even the pros.


Do you even play terran? xD I think there might a be a reason why pros for the last 6 years thought getting that fking raven aint worth it lol
I <3 Mvp
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
August 10 2016 10:40 GMT
#322
Oh please herO didn't have anything to do with Zest's PvT, herO lives outside the meta. He still pylon rushes every game. I'm surprised he stopped following up with oracles and going into phoenix/adept every game, frankly.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 10 2016 10:40 GMT
#323
On August 10 2016 19:40 Eiltonn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 19:37 opisska wrote:
On August 10 2016 19:34 Eiltonn wrote:
On August 10 2016 19:33 opisska wrote:
Why does noone ever build a raven? Surely it's cheaper than endless scans.


because it needs fking starport+techlab a really unfavorable combo. i think its pretty dumb that our only detection unit is t3


Sure, losing the game is better than having to swap two buildings ... But this is a mindset that really has been there for the whole 6 years - where people just refuse to do something because it's "too expensive" and they die repeatedly because of it. Surprisingly it always affects even the pros.


Do you even play terran? xD I think there might a be a reason why pros for the last 6 years thought getting that fking raven aint worth it lol

Fantasy actually used to make it almost every TvP, but that was in HotS.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
August 10 2016 10:41 GMT
#324
On August 10 2016 19:38 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 19:37 opisska wrote:
On August 10 2016 19:34 Eiltonn wrote:
On August 10 2016 19:33 opisska wrote:
Why does noone ever build a raven? Surely it's cheaper than endless scans.


because it needs fking starport+techlab a really unfavorable combo. i think its pretty dumb that our only detection unit is t3


Sure, losing the game is better than having to swap two buildings ... But this is a mindset that really has been there for the whole 6 years - where people just refuse to do something because it's "too expensive" and they die repeatedly because of it. Surprisingly it always affects even the pros.

are you one of these guys who advocate for all the ass retarded things and try to argue that progamers are wrong, because they don't try to experiment?

I guarantee you that the actual pro players know the game better than anyone and don't need major help with their build orders.


Yeah, that would be me

Really, the "pros are always right" attitude has been conclusively proven wrong years ago. To me the breaking point in believing the pros have inhumane understanding of the game was about the 20th failed pre-BL mech push in WoL.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
August 10 2016 10:41 GMT
#325
On August 10 2016 19:40 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 19:40 Eiltonn wrote:
On August 10 2016 19:37 opisska wrote:
On August 10 2016 19:34 Eiltonn wrote:
On August 10 2016 19:33 opisska wrote:
Why does noone ever build a raven? Surely it's cheaper than endless scans.


because it needs fking starport+techlab a really unfavorable combo. i think its pretty dumb that our only detection unit is t3


Sure, losing the game is better than having to swap two buildings ... But this is a mindset that really has been there for the whole 6 years - where people just refuse to do something because it's "too expensive" and they die repeatedly because of it. Surprisingly it always affects even the pros.


Do you even play terran? xD I think there might a be a reason why pros for the last 6 years thought getting that fking raven aint worth it lol

Fantasy actually used to make it almost every TvP, but that was in HotS.

TY makes one too from time to time
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 10 2016 10:41 GMT
#326
herO currently squeezing the life out of Taeja economically. My favorite games were economic warfare ones
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 10 2016 10:41 GMT
#327
This is not bad for Taeja
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
August 10 2016 10:41 GMT
#328
On August 10 2016 19:40 Eiltonn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 19:37 opisska wrote:
On August 10 2016 19:34 Eiltonn wrote:
On August 10 2016 19:33 opisska wrote:
Why does noone ever build a raven? Surely it's cheaper than endless scans.


because it needs fking starport+techlab a really unfavorable combo. i think its pretty dumb that our only detection unit is t3


Sure, losing the game is better than having to swap two buildings ... But this is a mindset that really has been there for the whole 6 years - where people just refuse to do something because it's "too expensive" and they die repeatedly because of it. Surprisingly it always affects even the pros.


Do you even play terran? xD I think there might a be a reason why pros for the last 6 years thought getting that fking raven aint worth it lol

This is your daily reminder that one of the 2 maps TY won in the GSL finals had an MVP raven.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 10 2016 10:41 GMT
#329
On August 10 2016 19:41 Pandemona wrote:
herO currently squeezing the life out of Taeja economically. My favorite games were economic warfare ones


He actually isn't at all, Taeja is ahead in economy
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 10 2016 10:41 GMT
#330
On August 10 2016 19:37 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 19:35 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Zest lost against Ryung?? WHAT


The cheeeeeeseeeeeeee

There surely is no TvP cheese, i would know about that watching avilo
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
MperorM1
Profile Joined September 2015
90 Posts
August 10 2016 10:42 GMT
#331
On August 10 2016 19:40 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 19:40 Eiltonn wrote:
On August 10 2016 19:37 opisska wrote:
On August 10 2016 19:34 Eiltonn wrote:
On August 10 2016 19:33 opisska wrote:
Why does noone ever build a raven? Surely it's cheaper than endless scans.


because it needs fking starport+techlab a really unfavorable combo. i think its pretty dumb that our only detection unit is t3


Sure, losing the game is better than having to swap two buildings ... But this is a mindset that really has been there for the whole 6 years - where people just refuse to do something because it's "too expensive" and they die repeatedly because of it. Surprisingly it always affects even the pros.


Do you even play terran? xD I think there might a be a reason why pros for the last 6 years thought getting that fking raven aint worth it lol

Fantasy actually used to make it almost every TvP, but that was in HotS.


The thing is in hots, the only thing terran needed to get out was medivacs and vikings when protoss started adding collossus. Now terran has to get out liberators early too. The liberators cut heavily into the production time of a single starport. If we also have to get a raven first, then we will simply never get enough liberators or medivacs out in time.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 10 2016 10:42 GMT
#332
On August 10 2016 19:41 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 19:41 Pandemona wrote:
herO currently squeezing the life out of Taeja economically. My favorite games were economic warfare ones


He actually isn't at all, Taeja is ahead in economy

His base is gonna run out very fast and will be on that 3rd for along time and will be pushed into taking a 4th way quicker than herO will need to.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
August 10 2016 10:43 GMT
#333
On August 10 2016 19:41 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 19:37 Olli wrote:
On August 10 2016 19:35 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Zest lost against Ryung?? WHAT


The cheeeeeeseeeeeeee

There surely is no TvP cheese, i would know about that watching avilo

avilo is a master of macro, he would never stoop down to the level of Ryung and cheese.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
August 10 2016 10:43 GMT
#334
Even funnier is when someone starts doing the thing the for years was considered "not worth it" and comes out as a genius. Like when Dark started building corruptors to kill medivacs.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
August 10 2016 10:43 GMT
#335
Taeja didn't cut too much into his Overwatch time for this
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Eiltonn
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany307 Posts
August 10 2016 10:43 GMT
#336
On August 10 2016 19:41 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 19:38 Ej_ wrote:
On August 10 2016 19:37 opisska wrote:
On August 10 2016 19:34 Eiltonn wrote:
On August 10 2016 19:33 opisska wrote:
Why does noone ever build a raven? Surely it's cheaper than endless scans.


because it needs fking starport+techlab a really unfavorable combo. i think its pretty dumb that our only detection unit is t3


Sure, losing the game is better than having to swap two buildings ... But this is a mindset that really has been there for the whole 6 years - where people just refuse to do something because it's "too expensive" and they die repeatedly because of it. Surprisingly it always affects even the pros.

are you one of these guys who advocate for all the ass retarded things and try to argue that progamers are wrong, because they don't try to experiment?

I guarantee you that the actual pro players know the game better than anyone and don't need major help with their build orders.


Yeah, that would be me

Really, the "pros are always right" attitude has been conclusively proven wrong years ago. To me the breaking point in believing the pros have inhumane understanding of the game was about the 20th failed pre-BL mech push in WoL.


lol pls become pro and teach this scrubs how to git gud. what are they even doing during their 16 hour-a-day practice routines Oo
I <3 Mvp
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 10 2016 10:44 GMT
#337
On August 10 2016 19:42 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 19:41 Olli wrote:
On August 10 2016 19:41 Pandemona wrote:
herO currently squeezing the life out of Taeja economically. My favorite games were economic warfare ones


He actually isn't at all, Taeja is ahead in economy

His base is gonna run out very fast and will be on that 3rd for along time and will be pushed into taking a 4th way quicker than herO will need to.


Protoss has to outexpand terran, terran is fine staying on 3 bases for a while

But doesn't matter
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Eiltonn
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany307 Posts
August 10 2016 10:44 GMT
#338
On August 10 2016 19:43 Eiltonn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2016 19:41 opisska wrote:
On August 10 2016 19:38 Ej_ wrote:
On August 10 2016 19:37 opisska wrote:
On August 10 2016 19:34 Eiltonn wrote:
On August 10 2016 19:33 opisska wrote:
Why does noone ever build a raven? Surely it's cheaper than endless scans.


because it needs fking starport+techlab a really unfavorable combo. i think its pretty dumb that our only detection unit is t3


Sure, losing the game is better than having to swap two buildings ... But this is a mindset that really has been there for the whole 6 years - where people just refuse to do something because it's "too expensive" and they die repeatedly because of it. Surprisingly it always affects even the pros.

are you one of these guys who advocate for all the ass retarded things and try to argue that progamers are wrong, because they don't try to experiment?

I guarantee you that the actual pro players know the game better than anyone and don't need major help with their build orders.


Yeah, that would be me

Really, the "pros are always right" attitude has been conclusively proven wrong years ago. To me the breaking point in believing the pros have inhumane understanding of the game was about the 20th failed pre-BL mech push in WoL.


lol pls become pro and teach these scrubs how to git gud. what are they even doing during their 16 hour-a-day practice routines Oo

I <3 Mvp
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 10 2016 10:44 GMT
#339
Poll: Recommend Taeja vs herO Game 2

Meh Game (5)
 
38%

Bad Game (4)
 
31%

Good Game (3)
 
23%

Excellent Game (1)
 
8%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Taeja vs herO Game 2

(Vote): Excellent Game
(Vote): Good Game
(Vote): Meh Game
(Vote): Bad Game


Poll: Recommend Taeja vs herO Game 3

Good Game (4)
 
50%

Bad Game (2)
 
25%

Excellent Game (1)
 
13%

Meh Game (1)
 
13%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Taeja vs herO Game 3

(Vote): Excellent Game
(Vote): Good Game
(Vote): Meh Game
(Vote): Bad Game

ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 10 2016 10:44 GMT
#340
Just a tactical loss so he can personally kick out Zest before retirement
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