On July 10 2016 22:15 Ej_ wrote: but I have to say, it's nice that once CJ is qualified for the playoffs, they are giving play time to the B-teamers like ByuL
This is really risky because CJ have 91 points and Afreeca 86 points.
On July 10 2016 22:19 Durnuu wrote: Fun fact : if CJ loses the next two sets (which seems likely), herO has 17 wins and the rest of CJ will have 16 wins :D
On July 10 2016 22:19 Durnuu wrote: Fun fact : if CJ loses the next two sets (which seems likely), herO will have 18 wins and the rest of CJ will have 16 wins :D
At least there's no way for Hush to reach 17 losses.
On July 10 2016 22:19 Durnuu wrote: Fun fact : if CJ loses the next two sets (which seems likely), herO has 17 wins and the rest of CJ will have 16 wins :D
herO has 18 wins even
Yeah just fixed it. The rest of CJ can't surpass herO unless a non-herO wins the ace (which just isn't happening )
On July 10 2016 22:23 Elentos wrote: Do you gib your economy too much if you get overlord speed & drops to take the island as your 3rd? Is that better as the 4th?
do you dare do that vs Protoss who might open, or reactively get, SG?
On July 10 2016 22:23 Elentos wrote: Do you gib your economy too much if you get overlord speed & drops to take the island as your 3rd? Is that better as the 4th?
you will never have air control in ZvP so that's a horrible idea
On July 10 2016 22:23 Elentos wrote: Do you gib your economy too much if you get overlord speed & drops to take the island as your 3rd? Is that better as the 4th?
do you dare do that vs Protoss who might open, or reactively get, SG?
Defend with a speed overlord full of queens and micro it better than Losira.
On July 10 2016 22:27 Heartland wrote: did Hush scout and reactively go for 8-gate all in?
reactive 8gate all-in after making a robo bay
please don't hurt my head
I was even thinking he was getting inspired by Welmu and trying some colossus based play, would have been retarded but at least coherent. What he does here is just all over the place. Maybe he's relying on that IdrA's famous quote "If what your opponent does makes no sense, you can't prepare for it".
On July 10 2016 22:35 [PkF] Wire wrote: soO seems to just want to choke Hush
I sometimes play games like this when I hold an all-in and instead of killing my opponent I take them for a pain train ride by taking the entire map and forcing them to GG when they can't leave their base.
On July 10 2016 22:35 [PkF] Wire wrote: soO seems to just want to choke Hush
I sometimes play games like this when I hold an all-in and instead of killing my opponent I take them for a pain train ride by taking the entire map and forcing them to GG when they can't leave their base.
On July 10 2016 22:35 [PkF] Wire wrote: soO seems to just want to choke Hush
I sometimes play games like this when I hold an all-in and instead of killing my opponent I take them for a pain train ride by taking the entire map and forcing them to GG when they can't leave their base.
I sometimes transition to mass BCs in this situation.
On July 10 2016 22:35 [PkF] Wire wrote: soO seems to just want to choke Hush
I sometimes play games like this when I hold an all-in and instead of killing my opponent I take them for a pain train ride by taking the entire map and forcing them to GG when they can't leave their base.
Me too actually. It's even more amusing as Protoss when you have a line of cannons, templar and gates in front of their base and tempests sometimes, but not always, start shooting their shit just because.
edit: Kassia is up there with the terrible Proleague players tbh
On July 10 2016 22:35 [PkF] Wire wrote: soO seems to just want to choke Hush
I sometimes play games like this when I hold an all-in and instead of killing my opponent I take them for a pain train ride by taking the entire map and forcing them to GG when they can't leave their base.
Best way is to wait until you are really rich and then a-move with pure lings and after you loos them you hit with 50-mutas
On July 10 2016 22:35 [PkF] Wire wrote: soO seems to just want to choke Hush
I sometimes play games like this when I hold an all-in and instead of killing my opponent I take them for a pain train ride by taking the entire map and forcing them to GG when they can't leave their base.
Me too actually. It's even more amusing as Protoss when you have a line of cannons, templar and gates in front of their base and tempests sometimes, but not always, start shooting their shit just because.
edit: Kassia is up there with the terrible Proleague players tbh
On July 10 2016 22:35 [PkF] Wire wrote: soO seems to just want to choke Hush
I sometimes play games like this when I hold an all-in and instead of killing my opponent I take them for a pain train ride by taking the entire map and forcing them to GG when they can't leave their base.
Me too actually. It's even more amusing as Protoss when you have a line of cannons, templar and gates in front of their base and tempests sometimes, but not always, start shooting their shit just because.
edit: Kassia is up there with the terrible Proleague players tbh
On July 10 2016 22:35 [PkF] Wire wrote: soO seems to just want to choke Hush
I sometimes play games like this when I hold an all-in and instead of killing my opponent I take them for a pain train ride by taking the entire map and forcing them to GG when they can't leave their base.
Me too actually. It's even more amusing as Protoss when you have a line of cannons, templar and gates in front of their base and tempests sometimes, but not always, start shooting their shit just because.
edit: Kassia is up there with the terrible Proleague players tbh
On July 10 2016 22:35 [PkF] Wire wrote: soO seems to just want to choke Hush
I sometimes play games like this when I hold an all-in and instead of killing my opponent I take them for a pain train ride by taking the entire map and forcing them to GG when they can't leave their base.
Me too actually. It's even more amusing as Protoss when you have a line of cannons, templar and gates in front of their base and tempests sometimes, but not always, start shooting their shit just because.
edit: Kassia is up there with the terrible Proleague players tbh
On July 10 2016 22:35 [PkF] Wire wrote: soO seems to just want to choke Hush
I sometimes play games like this when I hold an all-in and instead of killing my opponent I take them for a pain train ride by taking the entire map and forcing them to GG when they can't leave their base.
Me too actually. It's even more amusing as Protoss when you have a line of cannons, templar and gates in front of their base and tempests sometimes, but not always, start shooting their shit just because.
edit: Kassia is up there with the terrible Proleague players tbh
On July 10 2016 22:35 [PkF] Wire wrote: soO seems to just want to choke Hush
I sometimes play games like this when I hold an all-in and instead of killing my opponent I take them for a pain train ride by taking the entire map and forcing them to GG when they can't leave their base.
Me too actually. It's even more amusing as Protoss when you have a line of cannons, templar and gates in front of their base and tempests sometimes, but not always, start shooting their shit just because.
edit: Kassia is up there with the terrible Proleague players tbh
oh shit I almost forgot Kassia existed
he's retired no ?
yes
I'd like to throw B4's hat into the ring for terrible Proleague players, but... you know...
On July 10 2016 22:35 [PkF] Wire wrote: soO seems to just want to choke Hush
I sometimes play games like this when I hold an all-in and instead of killing my opponent I take them for a pain train ride by taking the entire map and forcing them to GG when they can't leave their base.
Me too actually. It's even more amusing as Protoss when you have a line of cannons, templar and gates in front of their base and tempests sometimes, but not always, start shooting their shit just because.
edit: Kassia is up there with the terrible Proleague players tbh
oh shit I almost forgot Kassia existed
he's retired no ?
yes
I'd like to throw B4's hat into the ring for terrible Proleague players, but... you know...
B4 winning that 1 foreign tournament is one of my favorite Starcraft moments
On July 10 2016 22:52 Jer99 wrote: i didn't think it was possible to out ridiculous last game
I think rushing tech buildings to then go allin with basic units and then take an island third while basically not making anything that flies is worse than making cyclones. Just me though.
On July 10 2016 22:52 Jer99 wrote: i didn't think it was possible to out ridiculous last game
I think rushing tech buildings to then go allin with basic units and then take an island third while basically not making anything that flies is worse than making cyclones. Just me though.
On July 10 2016 22:52 Jer99 wrote: i didn't think it was possible to out ridiculous last game
I think rushing tech buildings to then go allin with basic units and then take an island third while basically not making anything that flies is worse than making cyclones. Just me though.
he made a warp prism
Kinda hard to take an island without one...but you know, there's a reason why protoss that take an island usually go skytoss instead of blink...
On July 10 2016 22:52 ejozl wrote: Gotta admit out of the matchups we could see Cyclones in, TvT wasn't one I expected.
in which matchup is it expected?
cyclones are interesting in TvP, not en masse but you see them regularly in modern TvP
Not that regularly.
Or rather, not that regularly outside of the GuMiho pushes. I find more and more people who play straight up are TvP are skipping the cyclone entirely (most notably TY stopped building them for defense). Just like in TvT actually, less and less of them.
I think I understand Hush's game now. he placed pylons at the island and hoped soO would scout it with an overlord to trick him into playing greedy, then he goes allin to kill him and had the robotics bay ready for an eventual transition. It was all planned.
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