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Pandemona
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Poll: Archon Mode Winners?Zest & TY (Team GSL) (27) 82% Dark & Stats (Team S2SL) (6) 18% 33 total votes Your vote: Archon Mode Winners? (Vote): Zest & TY (Team GSL)
(Vote): Dark & Stats (Team S2SL)
Poll: WCS Korean Finals Season 1 ChampionZest (20) 48% Dark (12) 29% Stats (5) 12% TY (5) 12% 42 total votes Your vote: WCS Korean Finals Season 1 Champion (Vote): Zest
(Vote): Stats
(Vote): TY
(Vote): Dark
Poll: Best League?GSL (35) 67% S2SL (9) 17% Can't Choose (8) 15% 52 total votes Your vote: Best League? (Vote): GSL
(Vote): S2SL
(Vote): Can't Choose
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Would be cool to see Stark win but I think ZesTY will be too hard to stop.
In all seriousness I hope Dark lays a smackdown on these fools.
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Hope Zest doesn't get caught in an unfortunate teamkill -Stats is good as well- because I want to see either Zest vs Dark or the rematch of Zest vs TY -hopefully without a double factory build this time.
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Things aren't looking too good for Zerg lately, time to see if the hype for Dark being Life's successor is justified. How long will his era last? Is he a new Zerg hero?
Personally, I think the KT boys are going to roll him.
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I think Stats is gonna win.
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Cheering for team stark all the way
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On May 22 2016 15:14 Cricketer12 wrote:
Cheering for team stark all the way
interesting choice of words
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This looks like a fun event
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On May 22 2016 16:29 Makro wrote:interesting choice of words
You like team "ZesTY" better don't you
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Maybe today it's time to see if Dark can handle TY's mech
So what's the map pool? SSL, GSL, mix of both, Proleague, or ladder?
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How many games of archon are we getting? Hope its at least a bo3.
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They're playing for one hell of a trophy, damn.
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On May 22 2016 16:42 Elentos wrote:
Maybe today it's time to see if Dark can handle TY's mech
So what's the map pool? SSL, GSL, mix of both, Proleague, or ladder?
Afreeca's hosting so probably GSL?
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On May 22 2016 17:05 PolarisSpark wrote:
How many games of archon are we getting? Hope its at least a bo3.
Bo1 or Bo5, hopefully the former.
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That's a Zest looking trophy if ever I saw one.
Apart from the IEM one of course. That shit was made for him.
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On May 22 2016 17:22 rotta wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 17:05 PolarisSpark wrote:
How many games of archon are we getting? Hope its at least a bo3. Bo1 or Bo5, hopefully the former.
Well Afreeca's site gives as much time in the schedule to the archon match as to each of the 2 semifinals. Might not have to mean anything, but wouldn't be surprised if they play more than one game.
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On May 22 2016 17:23 Phredxor wrote:
That's a Zest looking trophy if ever I saw one.
Apart from the IEM one of course. That shit was made for him.
Oh yeah, this simply will not do anymore:
![[image loading]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ALa7Nwek1vM/hqdefault.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ckYMCNl.png)
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On May 22 2016 17:35 rotta wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 17:23 Phredxor wrote:
That's a Zest looking trophy if ever I saw one.
Apart from the IEM one of course. That shit was made for him. Oh yeah, this simply will not do anymore: + Show Spoiler +
Absolutely not. Zest needs another shiny trophy like the one from IEM. Another mirror to add to the collection. Another reinforcement that Zest is best for Zest.
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On May 22 2016 17:41 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 17:35 rotta wrote:On May 22 2016 17:23 Phredxor wrote:
That's a Zest looking trophy if ever I saw one.
Apart from the IEM one of course. That shit was made for him. Oh yeah, this simply will not do anymore: + Show Spoiler + Absolutely not. Zest needs another shiny trophy like the one from IEM. Another mirror to add to the collection. Another reinforcement that Zest is best for Zest.
We need more trophies like this:
![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/commons/images/0/03/Pigbaby_2014_WCS_AM_S2.jpg)
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Zest better show us an incredible games to wash off the shame of losing yesterday. Seriously, is the Great Book written in some weird euro trash language that he doesnt understand
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On May 22 2016 17:48 rotta wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 17:41 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On May 22 2016 17:35 rotta wrote:On May 22 2016 17:23 Phredxor wrote:
That's a Zest looking trophy if ever I saw one.
Apart from the IEM one of course. That shit was made for him. Oh yeah, this simply will not do anymore: + Show Spoiler + Absolutely not. Zest needs another shiny trophy like the one from IEM. Another mirror to add to the collection. Another reinforcement that Zest is best for Zest. We need more trophies like this: + Show Spoiler +
I always felt that that pic looks like Pigbaby doing his best Jaedong cosplay
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On May 22 2016 17:49 Noonius wrote:
Zest better show us an incredible games to wash off the shame of losing yesterday. Seriously, is the Great Book written in some weird euro trash language that he doesnt understand
And its name is English.
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On May 22 2016 17:48 rotta wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 17:41 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On May 22 2016 17:35 rotta wrote:On May 22 2016 17:23 Phredxor wrote:
That's a Zest looking trophy if ever I saw one.
Apart from the IEM one of course. That shit was made for him. Oh yeah, this simply will not do anymore: + Show Spoiler + Absolutely not. Zest needs another shiny trophy like the one from IEM. Another mirror to add to the collection. Another reinforcement that Zest is best for Zest. We need more trophies like this:
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On May 22 2016 17:52 Inflicted wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 17:48 rotta wrote:On May 22 2016 17:41 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On May 22 2016 17:35 rotta wrote:On May 22 2016 17:23 Phredxor wrote:
That's a Zest looking trophy if ever I saw one.
Apart from the IEM one of course. That shit was made for him. Oh yeah, this simply will not do anymore: + Show Spoiler + Absolutely not. Zest needs another shiny trophy like the one from IEM. Another mirror to add to the collection. Another reinforcement that Zest is best for Zest. We need more trophies like this: https://twitter.com/dsstarcraft2/status/259550501895540736
I hope they've kept that for Zest!
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On May 22 2016 16:40 Roadog wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 16:29 Makro wrote:On May 22 2016 15:14 Cricketer12 wrote:
Cheering for team stark all the way interesting choice of words You like team "ZesTY" better don't you
yes
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Still my favourite trophy:
![[image loading]](http://static2.gamespot.com/uploads/scale_medium/mig/3/8/8/4/2293884-Trophy1_66047_screen.jpg)
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Imo this should really give WCS points for 2nd place though. They won a match and if it's a GSL/SSL runner-up they're still desperate for points.
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Iron Squid trophy is the best ever made~
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On May 22 2016 17:48 rotta wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 17:41 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On May 22 2016 17:35 rotta wrote:On May 22 2016 17:23 Phredxor wrote:
That's a Zest looking trophy if ever I saw one.
Apart from the IEM one of course. That shit was made for him. Oh yeah, this simply will not do anymore: + Show Spoiler + Absolutely not. Zest needs another shiny trophy like the one from IEM. Another mirror to add to the collection. Another reinforcement that Zest is best for Zest. We need more trophies like this:
What a monstrosity.
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Whoops, countdown stopped too early 
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On May 22 2016 17:58 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 17:48 rotta wrote:On May 22 2016 17:41 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On May 22 2016 17:35 rotta wrote:On May 22 2016 17:23 Phredxor wrote:
That's a Zest looking trophy if ever I saw one.
Apart from the IEM one of course. That shit was made for him. Oh yeah, this simply will not do anymore: + Show Spoiler + Absolutely not. Zest needs another shiny trophy like the one from IEM. Another mirror to add to the collection. Another reinforcement that Zest is best for Zest. We need more trophies like this: What a monstrosity.
The player or the trophy?
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On May 22 2016 17:56 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:Still my favourite trophy: + Show Spoiler +
A trophy for a baller
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For a moment I was scared their mics weren't working and PL's technical difficulties were spreading.
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On May 22 2016 18:00 Elentos wrote:
For a moment I was scared their mics weren't working and PL's technical difficulties were spreading.
Don't even joke about that.
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On May 22 2016 18:01 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 18:00 Elentos wrote:
For a moment I was scared their mics weren't working and PL's technical difficulties were spreading. Don't even joke about that.
Not joking, when they didn't start talking until Gyuri did I got legit scared.
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Oh I forgot, GSL doesn't have booths anymore. That's gonna save them so much time.
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Zest confirmed 3x GSL champ. For that guy who refused to accept it unless he had pins.
Oh nvm, the third one is just his name 
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Calling Stats "Zest junior" is ridiculous.
He's the oldest player on KT.
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Zest with the golden "Zest" pin, haha
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"Yeah last night sucked"
My sentiments exactly, Stats.
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On May 22 2016 18:02 Phredxor wrote:Zest confirmed 3x GSL champ. For that guy who refused to accept it unless he had pins. Oh nvm, the third one is just his name
still a pin, so we can still argue
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On May 22 2016 18:05 Makro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 18:02 Phredxor wrote:Zest confirmed 3x GSL champ. For that guy who refused to accept it unless he had pins. Oh nvm, the third one is just his name still a pin, so we can still argue
Thank god for that. :D
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Zest and TY are nearly the same height, while Stats is way taller than Dark. This gives team GSL an advantage, as it will be easier for them to synchronize their fusion dance.
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On May 22 2016 18:04 Elentos wrote:
"Yeah last night sucked"
My sentiments exactly, Stats.
Probably better they lost or they'd be too hungover for this
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i read on tasteless twitter that he started learning koreans seriously months ago, is he translating by himself or not ?
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On May 22 2016 18:07 Makro wrote:
i read on tasteless twitter that he started learning koreans seriously months ago, is he translating by himself or not ?
Probably still has Jay translating for him, to make sure it's fluent.
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On May 22 2016 18:07 Makro wrote:
i read on tasteless twitter that he started learning koreans seriously months ago, is he translating by himself or not ?
Doubt it.
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Woah, I almost didn't see this huge event.
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On May 22 2016 18:05 Elentos wrote:
Zest and TY are nearly the same height, while Stats is way taller than Dark. This gives team GSL an advantage, as it will be easier for them to synchronize their fusion dance.
Also a KT player would probably rather die than fuse with an SKT player
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Archon BO5
I know Zest's offrace is pretty decent.
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all bo5 include archon. niceuuuuuuuu
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On May 22 2016 18:08 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 18:07 Makro wrote:
i read on tasteless twitter that he started learning koreans seriously months ago, is he translating by himself or not ? Probably still has Jay translating for him, to make sure it's fluent.
Jay is no longer working in the esport industry, I think he's doing his military service.
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On May 22 2016 18:09 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 18:05 Elentos wrote:
Zest and TY are nearly the same height, while Stats is way taller than Dark. This gives team GSL an advantage, as it will be easier for them to synchronize their fusion dance. Also a KT player would probably rather die than fuse with an SKT player
Dark and Stats are like Vegeta and Goku. Eventually Goku convinces Vegeta to do the damn fusion.
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I guess Dark would be Vegeta in this situation. Seems like the angry type.
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On May 22 2016 18:11 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 18:09 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On May 22 2016 18:05 Elentos wrote:
Zest and TY are nearly the same height, while Stats is way taller than Dark. This gives team GSL an advantage, as it will be easier for them to synchronize their fusion dance. Also a KT player would probably rather die than fuse with an SKT player Dark and Stats are like Vegeta and Goku. Eventually Goku convinces Vegeta to do the damn fusion.
So the SKT player is Goku
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On May 22 2016 18:11 Phredxor wrote:
I guess Dark would be Vegeta in this situation. Seems like the angry type.
Well he is the Zerg and I think to be a successful Zerg you have to be angry.
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Oh, only 5 maps in the pool. thats kinda boring
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Man I almost forgot about Tasteless beard
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On May 22 2016 18:12 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 18:11 Phredxor wrote:
I guess Dark would be Vegeta in this situation. Seems like the angry type. Well he is the Zerg and I think to be a successful Zerg you have to be angry.
Also the shorter of the two -. -
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That classic Cinderella story where the team that dominantly finished in first place in the regular season wins the playoffs.
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On May 22 2016 18:14 Elentos wrote:
That classic Cinderella story where the team that dominantly finished in first place in the regular season wins the playoffs.
The story is a bit different in Korea. They like success
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4 PvPs and 1 TvZ. It's Proleague all over again!
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Thankfully PvP is fun now
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When this was first announced I just thought it was a showmatch, but there is more on the line than I realised. Should be good.
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TY and Dark gonna find this so easy they'll both race switch afterwards?
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Hmm.. Was hoping less PvP.
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i just hope this archon thing finish soon enough
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TY is just going to chill while Zest is killing everyone.
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TY looks very indifferent to playing archon PvP xD
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Stats and Zest pretty much getting to play two BO5's against each other.
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Uh, are we getting casting? Or is my twitch just acting up?
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Dark and TY just wan´t to do the dirtiest all-ins possible 
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On May 22 2016 18:16 Damnitmynameistaken wrote:
Uh, are we getting casting? Or is my twitch just acting up?
Afreeca global is working fine for english casting.
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On May 22 2016 18:16 Damnitmynameistaken wrote:
Uh, are we getting casting? Or is my twitch just acting up?
That's you.
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This will be funny. Probaly Zest and Stats don´t want to reveal how they would like to play against each other, because they play a BO 5 after this for much more money.
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On May 22 2016 18:17 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 18:16 Damnitmynameistaken wrote:
Uh, are we getting casting? Or is my twitch just acting up? Afreeca global is working fine for english casting.
Uh, could you send me the link for it? Because I'm on Twitch.tv/GSL, I can hear the in-game music fine, just not commentating.
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They didn't start their next probe and still had one extra the entire time? Artosis be trippin?
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Zest & TY should win so easily, just put TY on macroing 24/7
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On May 22 2016 18:18 Damnitmynameistaken wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 18:17 Phredxor wrote:On May 22 2016 18:16 Damnitmynameistaken wrote:
Uh, are we getting casting? Or is my twitch just acting up? Afreeca global is working fine for english casting. Uh, could you send me the link for it? Because I'm on Twitch.tv/GSL, I can hear the in-game music fine, just not commentating.
http://afreeca.tv/36840697
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Hahaha this is gonna be fun.
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Wonder if Dark or Stats is on micro.
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Best finals:
Zest v Stats: Terran and Zerg tears because Toss imba
Dark v Stats: GSL fanboy tears because SSL pwnage
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On May 22 2016 18:18 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 18:18 Damnitmynameistaken wrote:On May 22 2016 18:17 Phredxor wrote:On May 22 2016 18:16 Damnitmynameistaken wrote:
Uh, are we getting casting? Or is my twitch just acting up? Afreeca global is working fine for english casting. Uh, could you send me the link for it? Because I'm on Twitch.tv/GSL, I can hear the in-game music fine, just not commentating. http://afreeca.tv/36840697
Uh, Afreeca sounds work, but not twitch, this is weird .....
And thanks man!
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Lmao I'm sure it's Dark controlling the zealot, taunting like that is just like him
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On May 22 2016 18:20 Durnuu wrote:
Lmao I'm sure it's Dark controlling the zealot, taunting like that is just like him
Yeah i'm sure Stats will do all the main stuff and just get Dark to be annoying
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...zealot dance micro top level!
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Blue archon has more probes so I guess Artosis was having a brain fart when he said they weren't making one after the pylon.
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Sad there is still no 'which player is controlling what' visual
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Tasteless may take that as a joke, but Stats has really sick simcity.
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Why are they both playing Protoss? It should be TY/Zest as Zerg and Stats/Dark as Terran 
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idk who to cheer for, i like stats and ty, but don't really like the others.
On May 22 2016 18:24 Ej_ wrote:Why are they both playing Protoss? It should be TY/Zest as Zerg and Stats/Dark as Terran
it's bo5 afaik, they'll play different races most likely
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On May 22 2016 18:24 Ej_ wrote:Why are they both playing Protoss? It should be TY/Zest as Zerg and Stats/Dark as Terran
I'd tell you why, but then i'd get banned for balance whining.
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On May 22 2016 18:24 HolydaKing wrote:
idk who to cheer for, i like stats and ty, but don't really like the others.
Cheer for everyone so they show good games.
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On May 22 2016 18:24 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 18:24 Ej_ wrote:Why are they both playing Protoss? It should be TY/Zest as Zerg and Stats/Dark as Terran it's bo5 afaik, they'll play different races most likely
They play 4 PvPs and a single TvZ on Prion Terraces.
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wow lost multiple sentries and immortal for free on the retreat
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dark is happy to play with such a good player. 
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Stats is way too good at taking fights in PvP atm
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holy heck they are truly try harding haha
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Dark is really enjoying protoss.
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The positioning on that main army from TY/Zest was sick.
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Even in archon mode, Zest floats 1k/500
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On May 22 2016 18:28 Inflicted wrote:
Even in archon mode, Zest floats 1k/500
Turns out it's all on purpose
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On May 22 2016 18:28 Inflicted wrote:
Even in archon mode, Zest floats 1k/500
"Ok TY, if you don't macro either, they'll think this is a tactical decision to bank up money"
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I forgot how hard it's to kill the opponent in Archon mode
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...Dark and Stats giggling it out while Zest an TY are super serious...
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On May 22 2016 18:24 Ej_ wrote:Why are they both playing Protoss? It should be TY/Zest as Zerg and Stats/Dark as Terran
They let the better player decide the races
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Play Archon mode. Make massive amounts of archons. Fair enough
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it's all about taking the good angle
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On May 22 2016 18:29 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
I forgot how hard it's to kill the opponent in Archon mode
when I was playing archon, my partner would take a scouting drone at 13 supply and kill 2 SCVs with it.
Then we baneling busted and won.
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wow dark and stats messed up that fight, loading the stalkers into that warprism was terrible.
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Stats GGs out while Dark goes full Fantasy I guess.
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I want a thumbs up from Zest, too.
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Everyone having a good time laughing except TY
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Come on Dark you need Zerg
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On May 22 2016 18:30 Makro wrote:
it's all about taking the good angle
curve*
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On May 22 2016 18:31 Elentos wrote:
Stats GGs out while Dark goes full Fantasy I guess.
I hope this happens in one game.
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On May 22 2016 18:32 Phredxor wrote:Everyone having a good time laughing except TY
he's thinking about switching race right now
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On May 22 2016 18:32 Phredxor wrote:Everyone having a good time laughing except TY
"he didn't even let me control an observer"
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On May 22 2016 18:32 Phredxor wrote:Everyone having a good time laughing except TY
TY cannot be bothered to give a fuck about this. Didn't even care about getting a thumbs-up from Zest.
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On May 22 2016 18:32 Phredxor wrote:Everyone having a good time laughing except TY
Maybe he was just in charge of making probes and pylons.
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..that audio-gear micro by Stats!
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On May 22 2016 18:33 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 18:32 Phredxor wrote:Everyone having a good time laughing except TY "he didn't even let me control an observer"
Haha. Sad but probably true
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On May 22 2016 18:33 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 18:32 Phredxor wrote:Everyone having a good time laughing except TY TY cannot be bothered to give a fuck about this. Didn't even care about getting a thumbs-up from Zest.
He's used to them, they're teammates.
Sadly there's money to win, so they're probably gonna play PvP all games.
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On May 22 2016 18:33 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 18:33 Ej_ wrote:On May 22 2016 18:32 Phredxor wrote:Everyone having a good time laughing except TY "he didn't even let me control an observer" Haha. Sad but probably true
He probably had TY do all the work.
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Team Stark is fitting, considering Zest used to have the nickname "Kingslayer"
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On May 22 2016 18:34 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 18:33 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 18:32 Phredxor wrote:Everyone having a good time laughing except TY TY cannot be bothered to give a fuck about this. Didn't even care about getting a thumbs-up from Zest. He's used to them, they're teammates.
I don't think Zest gives out thumbs-ups easily.
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A lot of people have been offended by my Pylons.
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On May 22 2016 18:35 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 18:34 HolydaKing wrote:On May 22 2016 18:33 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 18:32 Phredxor wrote:Everyone having a good time laughing except TY TY cannot be bothered to give a fuck about this. Didn't even care about getting a thumbs-up from Zest. He's used to them, they're teammates. I don't think Zest gives out thumbs-ups easily.
true, i'm quite surprised by such emotion by zest, it feels really weird
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Both teams are walling their bases off entirely, does anyone know why?
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On May 22 2016 18:34 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 18:33 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 18:32 Phredxor wrote:Everyone having a good time laughing except TY TY cannot be bothered to give a fuck about this. Didn't even care about getting a thumbs-up from Zest. He's used to them, they're teammates. Sadly there's money to win, so they're probably gonna play PvP all games.
3rd game is TvZ. Rest is PvP.
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On May 22 2016 18:35 rotta wrote:
A lot of people have been offended by my Pylons.
Some pylons are very offensive. There are spots where you really don't want pylons to go.
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On May 22 2016 18:36 MyrionSC wrote:
Both teams are walling their bases off entirely, does anyone know why?
Adepts are a pain in the ass
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On May 22 2016 18:36 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 18:34 HolydaKing wrote:On May 22 2016 18:33 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 18:32 Phredxor wrote:Everyone having a good time laughing except TY TY cannot be bothered to give a fuck about this. Didn't even care about getting a thumbs-up from Zest. He's used to them, they're teammates. Sadly there's money to win, so they're probably gonna play PvP all games. 3rd game is TvZ. Rest is PvP.
Oh so that's fixed already? Good to know, was told so earlier as well.
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Huk and MC. Huk just did nothing. Good times.
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On May 22 2016 18:36 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 18:36 MyrionSC wrote:
Both teams are walling their bases off entirely, does anyone know why? Adepts are a pain in the ass
Archon mode adept all-in is the dream. When you really hate your opponents 
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Worst oracle micro ever hahahhaa
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On May 22 2016 18:37 Phredxor wrote:
Huk and MC. Huk just did nothing. Good times.
Nerchio has taken maps off Korean Terrans in archon while playing with his girlfriend.
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When zerg plays oracle xD
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On May 22 2016 18:40 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
When zerg plays oracle xD
haha
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On May 22 2016 18:37 Phredxor wrote:
Huk and MC. Huk just did nothing. Good times.
In December there was a BO3 showmatch, Zest and Life vs sOs and Maru. When Jin Air got to play Terran, during the opening build sOs just laid back and reclined in his chair while Maru was doing everything.
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Tastosis pretty funny today
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TY must be rather annoyed with Zest's patient defensive strat.
TY: "Hyung, let's harass their base and shit!"
Zest: "Quiet, just guard the probe line, maknae."
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I hope that the next game isn't a pvp. I'm sick of watching pvp
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well that stalker was worth it
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I bet Dark just want´s to pump out immortals.
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On May 22 2016 18:43 Noonius wrote:
I hope that the next game isn't a pvp. I'm sick of watching pvp
Next game is a TvZ, others are PvP
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Turns out going the least micro comp is the best option
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Wait why did the archons retreat
oh well didn't matter in the end
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Haha Dark getting his bm in, good stuff.
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Didn't expect this after they killed the Nexus.
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Always felt like showmatches like this are quite pointless especially when koreans are involved.
They never seem to be putting in any effort for it.
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On May 22 2016 18:48 Kaizor wrote:
Always felt like showmatches like this are quite pointless especially when koreans are involved.
They never seem to be putting in any effort for it.
There's money on the line, imo they are showing quite nice games.
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Game 2 was like:
Dark "MORE immortals!"
Stats "They aren't that good in PvP"
Dark "Trust me, MORE immortals"
Stats: "Ok I go double robo this game and then you stfu for the rest of the series ok?"
After game, dark giggling "Told you man, told you. More immortal more easy win"
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Real cool to see them having such fun with this :D
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Dark and Stats are having so much fun
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...Stats leaving all to Dark! :D
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Omg that Zest micro. So sick.
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ooo tastosis best be careful, someone might make a horrible post about them on their tumblr
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A baneling bust of all things haha
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Where's my map changer unit?
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"what do you mean I have to be in position" damn tastosis are on point this morning
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Ah Achilles, the Greek Queen. Of course
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On May 22 2016 18:58 Durnuu wrote:Ah Achilles, the Greek Queen. Of course
Artosis family comes from ancient Troy for sure. They passed on this burn for 1000's of years
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What do you mean Arty? I'm pretty sure that TY does this even when he's playing by himself
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I want Taeja/Life archon beating everyone as Random
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Retreating is not that easy off-creep.
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On May 22 2016 19:01 Ej_ wrote:
I want Taeja/Life archon beating everyone as Random
"Oh sorry Taeja, I didn't mean to blow up all our banelings on nothing. I guess we lose."
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TY looking less pissed off now he wasn't forced to play Protoss
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"The main and the natural must be mechanical dinosaurs because they're getting Tyrannosaurus Rekt"
Oh my god.
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Lol, looks like Zest is having a great time
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zest seems so enthusiasticc about that archon game
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TY almost cracked a smile there.
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Bit surprised we don't see PvZ on Lerilak
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Love the archon match. The coolest thing though is that the players seem to have so much fun. I would love to see more... Proleague anyone? 😀
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On May 22 2016 19:04 Phredxor wrote:
TY almost cracked a smile there.
Then he remembered next game is as P
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"Money in da bank" high five!
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That was better than i expected. Decent enough games, plus the awesome casting and seeing the players having fun with it.
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On May 22 2016 18:58 Durnuu wrote:Ah Achilles, the Greek Queen. Of course
As well as math, mythology is something you should never do during a cast
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On May 22 2016 19:10 Sh1bby wrote:
GSL > SSL.
Obviously. Code S was a dozen times better than SSL in season 1.
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That confirms Tasteless isn't doing the translations yet.
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2,145$ for each of the 2.
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Wow if Dark had a TL account he'd be banned right now for balance whine.
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On May 22 2016 19:12 Elentos wrote:
2,145$ for each of the 2.
decent pocket money
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On May 22 2016 19:14 Elentos wrote:
Wow if Dark had a TL account he'd be banned right now for balance whine.
Obviously he's about to race switch. We all know Zergs are manliest race and don't complain.
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Plays Zerg on Prion Terraces, then when he loses goes on to say "Zerg is a bad race and that's why we lost"
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On May 22 2016 19:19 Noonius wrote:
these ads.... I mean...
Asian ads are awesome
+ Show Spoiler +http://i.imgur.com/kUgP9jG.gifv
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Damn this will hopefully be a long night of games.
I love it.
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On May 22 2016 19:21 Sh1bby wrote:Asian ads are awesome + Show Spoiler +http://i.imgur.com/kUgP9jG.gifv
I have been making noodles wrong all my life
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On May 22 2016 19:22 Hall0wed wrote:
Damn this will hopefully be a long night of games.
I love it.
IEM qualifiers after this. That's when EU pros really show how it's done
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I'm still waiting for a printed copy of Liquipedia.
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On May 22 2016 19:36 Ej_ wrote:
I'm still waiting for a printed copy of Liquipedia.
technology is not there yet
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LMAO Stats is doing the double forge build of Zest/TY
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that was so fucking brutal
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wtf I go read somethng else for 1 minute and Zest wins.
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On May 22 2016 19:38 RvB wrote:
wtf I go read somethng else for 1 minute and Zest wins.
Never read again!
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Stats on tilt after archon game?
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On May 22 2016 19:25 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 19:22 Hall0wed wrote:
Damn this will hopefully be a long night of games.
I love it. IEM qualifiers after this. That's when EU pros really show how it's done
lmao well I haven't watched any play outside of Korea in years so maybe I'll give it a look if you insist.
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Zest is best. There, I said it.
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On May 22 2016 19:38 RvB wrote:
wtf I go read somethng else for 1 minute and Zest wins.
should have read during that maru vs zest
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I can't believe after all this time he still can't pronounce Lerilak.
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On May 22 2016 19:39 Sh1bby wrote:
Zest is best. There, I said it.
then why did he suck balls yesterday in game 7?
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On May 22 2016 19:39 Rehio wrote:
I can't believe after all this time he still can't pronounce Lerilak.
He still mixes up Robo facility and Robo bay too
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On May 22 2016 19:39 Hall0wed wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 19:25 Noonius wrote:On May 22 2016 19:22 Hall0wed wrote:
Damn this will hopefully be a long night of games.
I love it. IEM qualifiers after this. That's when EU pros really show how it's done lmao well I haven't watched any play outside of Korea in years so maybe I'll give it a look if you insist.
He's actually somewhat right too. Last WCS was amazing to watch. Def check it out.
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On May 22 2016 19:40 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 19:39 Rehio wrote:
I can't believe after all this time he still can't pronounce Lerilak. He still mixes up Robo facility and Robo bay too
stargate and starport.... fuuuuuuuuuck
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On May 22 2016 19:41 Sh1bby wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 19:39 Hall0wed wrote:On May 22 2016 19:25 Noonius wrote:On May 22 2016 19:22 Hall0wed wrote:
Damn this will hopefully be a long night of games.
I love it. IEM qualifiers after this. That's when EU pros really show how it's done lmao well I haven't watched any play outside of Korea in years so maybe I'll give it a look if you insist. He's actually somewhat right too. Last WCS was amazing to watch. Def check it out.
BO5 going to Game 6... you don't see that every day
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On May 22 2016 19:40 Noonius wrote:then why did he suck balls yesterday in game 7?
Didn't we all agree that it was the fault of Losira/kt coach?
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On May 22 2016 19:41 Sh1bby wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 19:39 Hall0wed wrote:On May 22 2016 19:25 Noonius wrote:On May 22 2016 19:22 Hall0wed wrote:
Damn this will hopefully be a long night of games.
I love it. IEM qualifiers after this. That's when EU pros really show how it's done lmao well I haven't watched any play outside of Korea in years so maybe I'll give it a look if you insist. He's actually somewhat right too. Last WCS was amazing to watch. Def check it out.
Well I will take your word for it and give it a look then. =D
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On May 22 2016 19:42 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 19:41 Sh1bby wrote:On May 22 2016 19:39 Hall0wed wrote:On May 22 2016 19:25 Noonius wrote:On May 22 2016 19:22 Hall0wed wrote:
Damn this will hopefully be a long night of games.
I love it. IEM qualifiers after this. That's when EU pros really show how it's done lmao well I haven't watched any play outside of Korea in years so maybe I'll give it a look if you insist. He's actually somewhat right too. Last WCS was amazing to watch. Def check it out. BO5 going to Game 6... you don't see that every day
With possibility for game 7 too... Also showtime.
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Zest! The best around! Zest's never gonna let you down!
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On May 22 2016 19:46 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
Zest! The best around! Zest's never gonna let you down!
Except this time.
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On May 22 2016 19:49 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 19:46 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
Zest! The best around! Zest's never gonna let you down! Except this time.
And yesterday
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Oh hey Stats won one, good stuff!
On May 22 2016 19:45 Makro wrote:
holy shit zest
A nice 13 thousandth post.
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On May 22 2016 19:50 Phredxor wrote:
Oh hey Stats won one, good stuff!
They just want to maximize the kt screen time for the sponsors.
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Zest gonna need some good simcity or obs first.
Nvm was already walled at front. Ezpz.
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I think stats might just die here
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Zest doesnt give a fuck ROFL HAHAAH
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Seriously is he even trying?
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did zest catch a case of "I can't beat my hyung"
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On May 22 2016 19:58 Aunvilgodess wrote:
Seriously is he even trying?
Seems that he definitely didn't try enough.
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So much Zest hype in this thread, the cynic in me likes to see it shut down a little
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On May 22 2016 20:01 royalroadweed wrote:
SSL>GSL?
old KT > new KT
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On May 22 2016 20:01 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
That play made no sense.
Shhhhhs, don't let the "Zest is best!" bunch see you. Some ugly things might happen to you if they find out who you are.
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On May 22 2016 20:01 sparklyresidue wrote:
So much Zest hype in this thread, the cynic in me likes to see it shut down a little
now you know how some people feel about certain terran hype
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Wow Ruins of Seras still exists
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On May 22 2016 20:06 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:01 sparklyresidue wrote:
So much Zest hype in this thread, the cynic in me likes to see it shut down a little now you know how some people feel about certain terran hype
It's literally only you.
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On May 22 2016 20:06 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:01 sparklyresidue wrote:
So much Zest hype in this thread, the cynic in me likes to see it shut down a little now you know how some people feel about certain terran hype
pretty sure thats you mate.
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Good stuff Stats. Get those 1k points!
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Zest is getting owned. Haven't seen something like that in a while.
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stats best protoss confirmed
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Three crappy builds in a row.
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Does anyone know whether the finals will also be played today? I mean the winner between Zest-Stats and Dark-TY.
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What's going on? Oo
Teamkills are so random. No way Zest us getting back into that game...
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On May 22 2016 20:07 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:06 Noonius wrote:On May 22 2016 20:01 sparklyresidue wrote:
So much Zest hype in this thread, the cynic in me likes to see it shut down a little now you know how some people feel about certain terran hype It's literally only you.
Also isn't it an emerging story now that Maru broke Zest? Only reason he'd lose to absolute scrub Stats...
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On May 22 2016 20:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:06 Noonius wrote:On May 22 2016 20:01 sparklyresidue wrote:
So much Zest hype in this thread, the cynic in me likes to see it shut down a little now you know how some people feel about certain terran hype pretty sure thats you mate.
Nice pen
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On May 22 2016 20:11 Cheesare Borgia wrote:
Does anyone know whether the finals will also be played today? I mean the winner between Zest-Stats and Dark-TY.
Yes, it's played today
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Thank you, Durnuu! Should be great!
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On May 22 2016 20:09 djraphi23 wrote:
Zest is getting owned. Haven't seen something like that in a while.
yeah... like yesterday?
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ZEST IS BE... Oh wait, sorry, wrong Protoss.
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On May 22 2016 20:11 Cheesare Borgia wrote:
Does anyone know whether the finals will also be played today? I mean the winner between Zest-Stats and Dark-TY.
I believe it is being played today, although it could as well be next week as its already near 8:30PM, with some delay with production and stuff, the next series might go on for an hour or longer.
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Confirming my suspicions that Stats might actually be really good.
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"Classic starcraft match-up, Starship Troopers..."
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On May 22 2016 20:07 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:06 Noonius wrote:On May 22 2016 20:01 sparklyresidue wrote:
So much Zest hype in this thread, the cynic in me likes to see it shut down a little now you know how some people feel about certain terran hype It's literally only you.
there are others. There must be. No way he can be universally loved
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On May 22 2016 20:12 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:On May 22 2016 20:06 Noonius wrote:On May 22 2016 20:01 sparklyresidue wrote:
So much Zest hype in this thread, the cynic in me likes to see it shut down a little now you know how some people feel about certain terran hype pretty sure thats you mate. Nice pen
thank you.
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On May 22 2016 20:13 Inflicted wrote:
reKT
That's right, this is the guy who played in the semi finals against sKT. ;-)
Nice job Stats, now gogo TY.
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Now Dark, show some SKT pride! Jin Air broke them, now you can collect the shards.
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On May 22 2016 20:09 djraphi23 wrote:
Zest is getting owned. Haven't seen something like that in a while.
TBH, after seeing Maru vs Zest yesterday, it was obvious that we wouldn't have a good Zest today. Basic Psychology.
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On May 22 2016 20:12 sparklyresidue wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:07 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:On May 22 2016 20:06 Noonius wrote:On May 22 2016 20:01 sparklyresidue wrote:
So much Zest hype in this thread, the cynic in me likes to see it shut down a little now you know how some people feel about certain terran hype It's literally only you. Also isn't it an emerging story now that Maru broke Zest? Only reason he'd lose to absolute scrub Stats...
the word you're looking for is slump
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On May 22 2016 20:15 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:12 sparklyresidue wrote:On May 22 2016 20:07 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:On May 22 2016 20:06 Noonius wrote:On May 22 2016 20:01 sparklyresidue wrote:
So much Zest hype in this thread, the cynic in me likes to see it shut down a little now you know how some people feel about certain terran hype It's literally only you. Also isn't it an emerging story now that Maru broke Zest? Only reason he'd lose to absolute scrub Stats... the word you're looking for is slump
So long as you preface that term with "Maru induced" or at very least, "Jin Air induced"...
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On May 22 2016 20:14 Daswollvieh wrote:
Now Dark, show some SKT pride! Jin Air broke them, now you can collect the shards.
If Jin Air broke KT, what the hell did Stats do to SKT?
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That 17k is not a bad amount of money to win :O
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On May 22 2016 20:12 sparklyresidue wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:07 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:On May 22 2016 20:06 Noonius wrote:On May 22 2016 20:01 sparklyresidue wrote:
So much Zest hype in this thread, the cynic in me likes to see it shut down a little now you know how some people feel about certain terran hype It's literally only you. Also isn't it an emerging story now that Maru broke Zest? Only reason he'd lose to absolute scrub Stats...
wat
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On May 22 2016 20:17 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:14 Daswollvieh wrote:
Now Dark, show some SKT pride! Jin Air broke them, now you can collect the shards. If Jin Air broke KT, what the hell did Stats do to SKT?
SKT got used to that, they have been all-killed over and over again for quite some time now.
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On May 22 2016 20:17 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:14 Daswollvieh wrote:
Now Dark, show some SKT pride! Jin Air broke them, now you can collect the shards. If Jin Air broke KT, what the hell did Stats do to SKT?
jjakji killed SKT's faith in the machine
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On May 22 2016 20:17 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:14 Daswollvieh wrote:
Now Dark, show some SKT pride! Jin Air broke them, now you can collect the shards. If Jin Air broke KT, what the hell did Stats do to SKT?
the hubble space telescope is still trying to find something left of skt
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On May 22 2016 20:17 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:14 Daswollvieh wrote:
Now Dark, show some SKT pride! Jin Air broke them, now you can collect the shards. If Jin Air broke KT, what the hell did Stats do to SKT?
He had one week to recover and get motivated.
KTboys are still thinking about yesterday's final and the mistakes they made.
If Dark really wants to win this, the psychologic advantage will be huge (esp if he faces stats in the finals)
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On May 22 2016 20:16 sparklyresidue wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:15 Noonius wrote:On May 22 2016 20:12 sparklyresidue wrote:On May 22 2016 20:07 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:On May 22 2016 20:06 Noonius wrote:On May 22 2016 20:01 sparklyresidue wrote:
So much Zest hype in this thread, the cynic in me likes to see it shut down a little now you know how some people feel about certain terran hype It's literally only you. Also isn't it an emerging story now that Maru broke Zest? Only reason he'd lose to absolute scrub Stats... the word you're looking for is slump So long as you preface that term with "Maru induced" or at very least, "Jin Air induced"...
now, why would I lie like that. Everyone knows that terran needs a nerf across the board, starting with bunker build time which hasn't been corrected since early wol
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On May 22 2016 20:20 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:16 sparklyresidue wrote:On May 22 2016 20:15 Noonius wrote:On May 22 2016 20:12 sparklyresidue wrote:On May 22 2016 20:07 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:On May 22 2016 20:06 Noonius wrote:On May 22 2016 20:01 sparklyresidue wrote:
So much Zest hype in this thread, the cynic in me likes to see it shut down a little now you know how some people feel about certain terran hype It's literally only you. Also isn't it an emerging story now that Maru broke Zest? Only reason he'd lose to absolute scrub Stats... the word you're looking for is slump So long as you preface that term with "Maru induced" or at very least, "Jin Air induced"... now, why would I lie like that. Everyone knows that terran needs a nerf across the board, starting with bunker build time which hasn't been corrected since early wol
Haha I like a person who can hold a grudge
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On May 22 2016 20:20 Penev wrote:
Oh, Zest lost
slump?
Dunno, but Stats is hot right now.
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looking at AOA makes me wonder why isn't polygamy legal
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we've entered an era where the most annoying fans aren't SKT fans, or even KT fans....
I bet if STX were still around it would be jin air fans that pick on them not the SKT ones.
btw why is this stream not in the OP? Pande pls fix https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=OEc-cJdS1Y4
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On May 22 2016 20:22 Noonius wrote:
looking at AOA makes me wonder why isn't polygamy legal
I want a Choa but my missus won't let me
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Tasteless has an old man beard
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On May 22 2016 20:20 Gwavajuice wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:17 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 20:14 Daswollvieh wrote:
Now Dark, show some SKT pride! Jin Air broke them, now you can collect the shards. If Jin Air broke KT, what the hell did Stats do to SKT? He had one week to recover and get motivated. KTboys are still thinking about yesterday's final and the mistakes they made. If Dark really wants to win this, the psychologic advantage will be huge (esp if he faces stats in the finals)
You can't know what they do and don't think about. Some people are much less fazed by losses than others. Besides Tuesday to Sunday is not a week.
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On May 22 2016 20:26 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:20 Gwavajuice wrote:On May 22 2016 20:17 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 20:14 Daswollvieh wrote:
Now Dark, show some SKT pride! Jin Air broke them, now you can collect the shards. If Jin Air broke KT, what the hell did Stats do to SKT? He had one week to recover and get motivated. KTboys are still thinking about yesterday's final and the mistakes they made. If Dark really wants to win this, the psychologic advantage will be huge (esp if he faces stats in the finals) You can't know what they do and don't think about. Some people are much less fazed by losses than others. Besides Tuesday to Sunday is not a week.
no listen, you can see the tilt in his eyes
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TY, please. Make terran great again
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On May 22 2016 20:27 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:26 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 20:20 Gwavajuice wrote:On May 22 2016 20:17 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 20:14 Daswollvieh wrote:
Now Dark, show some SKT pride! Jin Air broke them, now you can collect the shards. If Jin Air broke KT, what the hell did Stats do to SKT? He had one week to recover and get motivated. KTboys are still thinking about yesterday's final and the mistakes they made. If Dark really wants to win this, the psychologic advantage will be huge (esp if he faces stats in the finals) You can't know what they do and don't think about. Some people are much less fazed by losses than others. Besides Tuesday to Sunday is not a week. no listen, you can see the tilt in his eyes
Ej_ confirmed to be Wolf
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I have a weird urge to play WoW
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On May 22 2016 20:28 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:27 Ej_ wrote:On May 22 2016 20:26 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 20:20 Gwavajuice wrote:On May 22 2016 20:17 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 20:14 Daswollvieh wrote:
Now Dark, show some SKT pride! Jin Air broke them, now you can collect the shards. If Jin Air broke KT, what the hell did Stats do to SKT? He had one week to recover and get motivated. KTboys are still thinking about yesterday's final and the mistakes they made. If Dark really wants to win this, the psychologic advantage will be huge (esp if he faces stats in the finals) You can't know what they do and don't think about. Some people are much less fazed by losses than others. Besides Tuesday to Sunday is not a week. no listen, you can see the tilt in his eyes Ej_ confirmed to be Wolf
We need to reach a new level. We need to see the tilt in their hair. Even Wolf couldn't keep up with that.
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On May 22 2016 20:29 Noonius wrote:
I have a weird urge to play WoW
why? did stork cut a promo on the GSL stream?
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100% win rate vs Z up against 100% winrate vs T. Sort of.
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I was like "Wait why are there no stats for Dark vs Terran? I'm sure he played a Terran in GSL" before I realized "Oh right, no Terrans in SSL."
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On May 22 2016 20:30 Phredxor wrote:
100% win rate vs Z up against 100% winrate vs T. Sort of.
The best Zerg in the world vs that guy who makes tanks I guess?
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On May 22 2016 20:31 Elentos wrote:
I was like "Wait why are there no stats for Dark vs Terran? I'm sure he played a Terran in GSL" before I realized "Oh right, no Terrans in SSL."
So harsh to Inno/Byun, aLive.
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On May 22 2016 20:32 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:31 Elentos wrote:
I was like "Wait why are there no stats for Dark vs Terran? I'm sure he played a Terran in GSL" before I realized "Oh right, no Terrans in SSL." So harsh to Inno/Byun, aLive.
The first two couldn't make it past RagnaroK and nobody knows the 3rd guy anyway.
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On May 22 2016 20:32 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:30 Phredxor wrote:
100% win rate vs Z up against 100% winrate vs T. Sort of. The best Zerg in the world vs that guy who makes tanks I guess?
look, you make double factory for a reason
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On May 22 2016 20:29 Noonius wrote:
I have a weird urge to play WoW
I tried that one year ago, and wow was I surprised how it changed. And not in a good way imo, the character skill system was so dull compared to earlier. Similar to how D2 changed to D3 I guess.
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"The guy who changed Zerg forever in SC2" is a really strong statement.
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On May 22 2016 20:21 HolydaKing wrote:Dunno, but Stats is hot right now.
true
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On May 22 2016 20:34 Elentos wrote:
"The guy who changed Zerg forever in SC2" is a really strong statement.
YugiOh got robbed of his roach/bane/corruptor
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On May 22 2016 20:33 HolydaKing wrote:I tried that one year ago, and wow was I surprised how it changed. And not in a good way imo, the character skill system was so dull compared to earlier. Similar to how D2 changed to D3 I guess.
But if you level a new character to level 20, you get a free hero portrait in Hearthstone.
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On May 22 2016 20:34 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:33 HolydaKing wrote:On May 22 2016 20:29 Noonius wrote:
I have a weird urge to play WoW
I tried that one year ago, and wow was I surprised how it changed. And not in a good way imo, the character skill system was so dull compared to earlier. Similar to how D2 changed to D3 I guess. But if you level a new character to level 20, you get a free hero portrait in Hearthstone.
Wow, that changes everything! =P
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Make up your mind, TY
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On May 22 2016 20:35 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:34 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 20:33 HolydaKing wrote:On May 22 2016 20:29 Noonius wrote:
I have a weird urge to play WoW
I tried that one year ago, and wow was I surprised how it changed. And not in a good way imo, the character skill system was so dull compared to earlier. Similar to how D2 changed to D3 I guess. But if you level a new character to level 20, you get a free hero portrait in Hearthstone. Wow, that changes everything! =P
I was about to do it, but it's a Paladin hero and half the appeal of playing Paladin is spamming "WELL MET!".
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On May 22 2016 20:36 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:35 HolydaKing wrote:On May 22 2016 20:34 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 20:33 HolydaKing wrote:On May 22 2016 20:29 Noonius wrote:
I have a weird urge to play WoW
I tried that one year ago, and wow was I surprised how it changed. And not in a good way imo, the character skill system was so dull compared to earlier. Similar to how D2 changed to D3 I guess. But if you level a new character to level 20, you get a free hero portrait in Hearthstone. Wow, that changes everything! =P I was about to do it, but it's a Paladin hero and half the appeal of playing Paladin is spamming "WELL MET!".
I'm doing it right now
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TY killing Starcraft one mech game at a time.
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On May 22 2016 20:33 HolydaKing wrote:I tried that one year ago, and wow was I surprised how it changed. And not in a good way imo, the character skill system was so dull compared to earlier. Similar to how D2 changed to D3 I guess.
I pretty much quit raiding at the end of pandaria and only leveled to max on my main in warlords. no flying pissed me off. I couldn't be arsed to level alts and prep them for raiding, so I just quit. Now the itch is back but I suspect it will fade once I have leveled again, since only thing I really cared about was raiding and I don't have time any more to fully commit to it. But there's always an option of getting bitch slapped on ladder
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On May 22 2016 20:38 Ej_ wrote:
TY killing Starcraft one mech game at a time.
At least he usually plays his air mech out aggressively. Imagine if he went full HotS and didn't do shit all game.
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TY did this already to Departure in the Kung Fu cup. He absolutely wrecked him 3 games in a row with it.
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On May 22 2016 20:39 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:38 Ej_ wrote:
TY killing Starcraft one mech game at a time. At least he usually plays his air mech out aggressively. Imagine if he went full HotS and didn't do shit all game.
I watched avilo vs Vibe from that thread yesterday and I'm still confused on how I feel about it.
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On May 22 2016 20:41 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:39 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 20:38 Ej_ wrote:
TY killing Starcraft one mech game at a time. At least he usually plays his air mech out aggressively. Imagine if he went full HotS and didn't do shit all game. I watched avilo vs Vibe from that thread yesterday and I'm still confused on how I feel about it.
What else but pure happieness can you feel after watching that?
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On May 22 2016 20:40 Aunvilgodess wrote:
TY did this already to Departure in the Kung Fu cup. He absolutely wrecked him 3 games in a row with it.
He also did it vs Solar in Kung Fu Cup. He says it basically never loses in practice.
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On May 22 2016 20:41 Aunvilgodess wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:41 Ej_ wrote:On May 22 2016 20:39 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 20:38 Ej_ wrote:
TY killing Starcraft one mech game at a time. At least he usually plays his air mech out aggressively. Imagine if he went full HotS and didn't do shit all game. I watched avilo vs Vibe from that thread yesterday and I'm still confused on how I feel about it. What else but pure happieness can you feel after watching that?
the anger that avilo can take 3rd base when his main is almost mined out and still drag the game out for 80 minutes more.
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On May 22 2016 20:42 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:40 Aunvilgodess wrote:
TY did this already to Departure in the Kung Fu cup. He absolutely wrecked him 3 games in a row with it. He also did it vs Solar in Kung Fu Cup. He says it basically never loses in practice.
In practice vs Leenock and Losira?
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somewhere avilo is salivating
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On May 22 2016 20:42 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:40 Aunvilgodess wrote:
TY did this already to Departure in the Kung Fu cup. He absolutely wrecked him 3 games in a row with it. He also did it vs Solar in Kung Fu Cup. He says it basically never loses in practice.
Well, considering who KT's zergs are...
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On May 22 2016 20:42 Noonius wrote:
somewhere avilo is salivating
He's pulling out his phone to call the KT coaches and inform them what TY is doing wrong.
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"a little bit overpowered"
cmon lets get real
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Could someone explain to me why terrans dont get blue flame when they use so many helions/hellbats?
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I want this game to end with TY flying his libs and an OC to a corner and asking for a draw.
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On May 22 2016 20:47 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
Could someone explain to me why terrans dont get blue flame when they use so many helions/hellbats?
He was low on gas for a long time.
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On May 22 2016 20:47 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
Could someone explain to me why terrans dont get blue flame when they use so many helions/hellbats?
That always confused me too.
I guess they don't have a tech lab on a factory usually since they're only making hellions.
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On May 22 2016 20:38 Ej_ wrote:
TY killing Starcraft one mech game at a time.
mech is not evil and you know it, hell I know you'll be watching some mech in an hour.
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On May 22 2016 20:48 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:47 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
Could someone explain to me why terrans dont get blue flame when they use so many helions/hellbats? That always confused me too. I guess they don't have a tech lab on a factory usually since they're only making hellions.
you know who went BFH in mech games? Mvp and ForGG
iesf og hellbat abusers never forget
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On May 22 2016 20:48 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:38 Ej_ wrote:
TY killing Starcraft one mech game at a time. mech is not evil and you know it, hell I know you'll be watching some mech in an hour.
plz Last is not gonna make it to mech
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On May 22 2016 20:49 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:48 Phredxor wrote:On May 22 2016 20:47 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
Could someone explain to me why terrans dont get blue flame when they use so many helions/hellbats? That always confused me too. I guess they don't have a tech lab on a factory usually since they're only making hellions. you know who went BFH in mech games? Mvp and ForGG iesf og hellbat abusers never forget
What we really need back is glorious hellbat drops.
Hellbat drops for everyone. No discrimination.
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On May 22 2016 20:49 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:48 Phredxor wrote:On May 22 2016 20:47 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
Could someone explain to me why terrans dont get blue flame when they use so many helions/hellbats? That always confused me too. I guess they don't have a tech lab on a factory usually since they're only making hellions. you know who went BFH in mech games? Mvp and ForGG iesf og hellbat abusers never forget
Yea thats what I remember. BFH opener was a thing.
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The name is Lisk. Ultra Lisk
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On May 22 2016 20:49 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:48 BLinD-RawR wrote:On May 22 2016 20:38 Ej_ wrote:
TY killing Starcraft one mech game at a time. mech is not evil and you know it, hell I know you'll be watching some mech in an hour. plz Last is not gonna make it to mech
this is zero we're talking about, hes gonna choke, like he always does.
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triple ghost academy
yep this is an avilo game
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DENIED, the most infuriating thing to happen to you in a sc2 game
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Tasteless is right though, if he keeps nuking creep tumors, he can lose this quite handily.
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one nuke for one creep tumor
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Did TY and Dark watch the Vibe vs Avilo game or what is happening?
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Nuking creep and scouting banelings.
I'm about ready for bed.
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On May 22 2016 20:55 Musicus wrote:
Did TY and Dark watch the Vibe vs Avilo game or what is happening?
KT hired avilo as coach, didn't you hear?
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This is only a 23 minute game so far. I´m, still not used to LotV time :O
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what were those banelings doing
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Today will end veeeery late if it keeps going like that lol
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On May 22 2016 20:55 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:55 Musicus wrote:
Did TY and Dark watch the Vibe vs Avilo game or what is happening? KT hired avilo as coach, didn't you hear?
Let's see if TY can make this a draw as Avilo thinks it is, or if Dark can somehow cheat out a win by abusing the mineral mining bug.
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I hate skyterran. The mid game with constant speed banshee harass isn't bad but the late game sucks to watch.
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Nuking creep tumors lol
That's some efficient trade
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why is he nydusing banes what the fuck hahahahahha
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Poor swarmhosts got blamed for everything turns out it was mech all along
Looks like Dark has lost his mind by now
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Artosis doesn't know what an achievement is
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I am not even sure what's happening in this game...
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On May 22 2016 20:58 Ramiz1989 wrote:
I am not even sure what's happening in this game...
Not much really
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like think about how much Dark would've killed in the main with cracklings, but he just sent banelings in to blow up on a thor
this is some Guru plays
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Zzzzzzzz nobody believed me when I said this map is total shit
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ResidentSleeper
User was temp banned for this post.
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On May 22 2016 20:58 Nerchio wrote:
Zzzzzzzz nobody believed me when I said this map is total shit
I believed you!
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On May 22 2016 20:58 Nerchio wrote:
Zzzzzzzz nobody believed me when I said this map is total shit
i knew this map was shit when i saw the in-base natural
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Yeah don't see TY winning this. His army isn't all that strong and Darks bank for remaxes is crazy.
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YES CORRUPTORS KILL ALL THE STARPORTS HYPE
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This is pre liberator nerf?
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On May 22 2016 21:00 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:58 Nerchio wrote:
Zzzzzzzz nobody believed me when I said this map is total shit i knew this map was shit when i saw the in-base natural
People still say this is the most neutral map in the map pool and produces good games
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Dark knows what he is doing.
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On May 22 2016 21:00 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 21:00 Ej_ wrote:On May 22 2016 20:58 Nerchio wrote:
Zzzzzzzz nobody believed me when I said this map is total shit i knew this map was shit when i saw the in-base natural People still say this is the most neutral map in the map pool and produces good games
did you see the glory of Showtime vs Guru tho
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good thing corruptors are terrible ":D"
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On May 22 2016 20:56 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:55 Ej_ wrote:On May 22 2016 20:55 Musicus wrote:
Did TY and Dark watch the Vibe vs Avilo game or what is happening? KT hired avilo as coach, didn't you hear? Let's see if TY can make this a draw as Avilo thinks it is, or if Dark can somehow cheat out a win by abusing the mineral mining bug.
Dark is going to have a vibuGasm
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did he just forgot the word corruptor?
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On May 22 2016 21:00 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 21:00 Ej_ wrote:On May 22 2016 20:58 Nerchio wrote:
Zzzzzzzz nobody believed me when I said this map is total shit i knew this map was shit when i saw the in-base natural People still say this is the most neutral map in the map pool and produces good games
This map gave me you vs Showtime game 1. I will forever be thankful!
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On May 22 2016 21:00 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 21:00 Nerchio wrote:On May 22 2016 21:00 Ej_ wrote:On May 22 2016 20:58 Nerchio wrote:
Zzzzzzzz nobody believed me when I said this map is total shit i knew this map was shit when i saw the in-base natural People still say this is the most neutral map in the map pool and produces good games did you see the glory of Showtime vs Guru tho
Not sure who is more foreigner, TY or Guru
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Dark's final assault is sick
Who knows corruptors' anti building attack is quite useful this time
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On May 22 2016 21:01 polpot wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:56 Musicus wrote:On May 22 2016 20:55 Ej_ wrote:On May 22 2016 20:55 Musicus wrote:
Did TY and Dark watch the Vibe vs Avilo game or what is happening? KT hired avilo as coach, didn't you hear? Let's see if TY can make this a draw as Avilo thinks it is, or if Dark can somehow cheat out a win by abusing the mineral mining bug. Dark is going to have a vibuGasm
Well TY is just not on avilo level as it seems, never got to that phase .
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TY be like "are you mining gas? this is a draw"
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I don't what's happening and I'm pretty sure I don't wanna know.
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QUICK FLOAT TO THE CORNER
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Amazing how long liberators make the death animation
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TY just not up to avilos level. Not that many are.
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now that was a great game
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looks like only huge masses of liberators/vikings can beat corruptors.
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aside from his midgame baneling 'creativeness' Dark played an epic game
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I know what map pool I wish for the next season:
- Dusk Towers
- Dusk Towers
- Dusk Towers
- Dusk Towers
- Dusk Towers
- Dusk Towers
- Dusk Towers
I would even suggest to increase the available vetos to six.
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Surprising they're not taking a break after that long game
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glad i decided to tune in
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Avilo making the meta once again
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I think if TY sniped the vipers at the end instead of trying to EMP them he would have crushed Dark's air army.
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OMG !! you need to be a genius to win against this air Terran. D Kim managed to do worst than swarmhost . Can't wait for the next patch nerfing those libs. At least I might win a game against terran
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On May 22 2016 21:09 IMPrime wrote:
Surprising they're not taking a break after that long game
this is a real region
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On May 22 2016 21:08 opisska wrote:
I know what map pool I wish for the next season:
- Dusk Towers
- Dusk Towers
- Dusk Towers
- Dusk Towers
- Dusk Towers
- Dusk Towers
- Dusk Towers
I would even suggest to increase the available vetos to six.
ha ha yeah a really great map we have to give that one to Blizzard
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I really hope we will never see this shit again.
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oh I do this build on Dusk Towers sometimes
there was a 3rax marine vs proxy roaches pro game on Dusk towers too, 3rax wins
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hahaha let's both just make buildings where they don't belong
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good thing is all of the bank was used, money well spent
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proxy hatch vs 3rax
guess both players are like "fuck i need a break"
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Proxy hatch vs 3 rax oh my
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On May 22 2016 21:10 IMPrime wrote:
proxy hatch vs 3rax
guess both players are like "fuck i need a break"
exactly what I thought to myself :D
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Tasteless, how do you know I need to go to a restroom? do you read minds?!!!
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3 rax should beat proxy hatch roach all in right?
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lol
"Ive been on the ladder before I know what this is"
I love Tastosis
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On May 22 2016 21:11 Yiome wrote:
3 rax should beat proxy hatch roach all in right?
yeah
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On May 22 2016 21:14 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
wow TY didn't expect the pararoaches
Nobody expects the pararoaches!
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On May 22 2016 20:48 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:47 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
Could someone explain to me why terrans dont get blue flame when they use so many helions/hellbats? That always confused me too. I guess they don't have a tech lab on a factory usually since they're only making hellions.
In TvZ: Blue flame doesn't really change the dynamic vs lings that much. That gas is better used for upgrades or more production.
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He even refused to make stim because he knows if he holds he wins anyway.
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On May 22 2016 21:14 Schelim wrote:
lmao this series
It's diverse
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I missed the first series ... How were the games Zest vs Stats? Was it some kind of wintrading for Zest's team buddy? Was it three cheeses from Stats? Or did they actually play good games and Stats was really better?
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On May 22 2016 21:15 Diabolique wrote:
I missed the first series ... How were the games Zest vs Stats? Was it some kind of wintrading for Zest's team buddy? Was it three cheeses from Stats? Or did they actually play good games and Stats was really better?
Zest is overrated.
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On May 22 2016 21:14 plogamer wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 20:48 Phredxor wrote:On May 22 2016 20:47 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
Could someone explain to me why terrans dont get blue flame when they use so many helions/hellbats? That always confused me too. I guess they don't have a tech lab on a factory usually since they're only making hellions. In TvZ: Blue flame doesn't really change the dynamic vs lings that much. That gas is better used for upgrades or more production.
Correct me if I am wrong but AFAIK if you have +2 att and blue flame hellbats (granted not hellions) oneshot lings whatever the defence upgrade (even more sure with +3 att). And that is a pretty huge difference, although they tend to spend more time in hellion mode.
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On May 22 2016 21:15 Diabolique wrote:
I missed the first series ... How were the games Zest vs Stats? Was it some kind of wintrading for Zest's team buddy? Was it three cheeses from Stats? Or did they actually play good games and Stats was really better?
Stats played better.
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On May 22 2016 21:16 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 21:15 Diabolique wrote:
I missed the first series ... How were the games Zest vs Stats? Was it some kind of wintrading for Zest's team buddy? Was it three cheeses from Stats? Or did they actually play good games and Stats was really better? Zest is overrated.
ah.. sackofwetmice nostalgia
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C'mon TY. Need two runner-ups in the final.
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It would be amazing if this was just an exact regame of the archon match.
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On May 22 2016 21:17 Ctesias wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 21:15 Diabolique wrote:
I missed the first series ... How were the games Zest vs Stats? Was it some kind of wintrading for Zest's team buddy? Was it three cheeses from Stats? Or did they actually play good games and Stats was really better? Stats played better.
Shouldn't surprise anyone who watched SPL this season.
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On May 22 2016 21:16 genghiswolve wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 21:14 plogamer wrote:On May 22 2016 20:48 Phredxor wrote:On May 22 2016 20:47 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
Could someone explain to me why terrans dont get blue flame when they use so many helions/hellbats? That always confused me too. I guess they don't have a tech lab on a factory usually since they're only making hellions. In TvZ: Blue flame doesn't really change the dynamic vs lings that much. That gas is better used for upgrades or more production. Correct me if I am wrong but AFAIK if you have +2 att and blue flame hellbats (granted not hellions) oneshot lings whatever the defence upgrade (even more sure with +3 att). And that is a pretty huge difference, although they tend to spend more time in hellion mode.
I guess it's more accurate to say that blue flame upgrade isnt very impactful until after +2 mech upgrades.
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Sky Terran again
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I don't think it has a name
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Against hydras blue flame would help so much though...
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Good god the murdered queen corpse sliding down the ramp RIP
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TY can't beat him with bio, can't beat him with mass starport
he needs ForGG's blessing
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i have never seen more than -48 before.
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On May 22 2016 21:30 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:
i have never seen more than -48 before.
Life vs Taeja on KSS
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In those situations, I just start a lair somewhere. It's not that expensive and comes in handy when the hive dies.
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I spoke too soon
map so zerg favored
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I always tried to counter liberators with hydra/viper. Worked in dia at least, since abduct forces liberators out of the anti ground mode it was pretty good. Not looking good for Dark though.
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fun games ! those two match quite well together
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fortunately speed banshees are not armory tech
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Those two are gonna be so exhausted by the time they play Stats
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Deadly speed banshees going full vietnam on Dark
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bored to death from the skies
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Does this count as a tier 1 event?
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Dark cornered himself, dafuq?
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Can't we just have the BioMine vs Lingblingmuta of 2014 back? Pretty please? I don't want all this other crap.
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Rather refreshing to see Terran winning on that map.
Also nice that TY is ahead in the series.
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On May 22 2016 21:34 royalroadweed wrote:
Does this count as a tier 1 event?
LP counts it as Premier
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I'd have preferred Stats vs Dark but TY seems to be playing quite well tonight
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This is a Tier 0 event, or the premierest as it is also called
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On May 22 2016 21:37 Jer99 wrote:
GAS FIRST
vs roach rush
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I hope TY does a thor push.
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On May 22 2016 21:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I'd have preferred Stats vs Dark but TY seems to be playing quite well tonight
I'd rather not have either champion in the finals. That way another player who really deserves it gets closer to Blizzcon.
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On May 22 2016 21:38 Ej_ wrote:vs roach rush
they don't get any better than this Tasteless
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Dropped the ball on that plural eh
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On May 22 2016 21:38 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 21:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I'd have preferred Stats vs Dark but TY seems to be playing quite well tonight I'd rather not have either champion in the finals. That way another player who really deserves it gets closer to Blizzcon.
good point
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On May 22 2016 21:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I'd have preferred Stats vs Dark but TY seems to be playing quite well tonight
I'd prefer TY v Stats. We've already seen Dark vs Stats.
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Dark's build is triggering me with how he was 50 gas late on speed
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If dark wins, stats will have him for breakfast anyway, no? The bane->BL style is completely figured now
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On May 22 2016 21:38 royalroadweed wrote:
I hope TY does a thor push.
A thor "drop", INnoVation style
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On May 22 2016 21:39 opisska wrote:
If dark wins, stats will have him for breakfast anyway, no? The bane->BL style is completely figured now
figured how lol
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ok that's a lot of damage
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Drones are clearly bug types you amateur.
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On May 22 2016 21:40 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 21:39 opisska wrote:
If dark wins, stats will have him for breakfast anyway, no? The bane->BL style is completely figured now figured how lol
oh, it was even actually stats who showed that in PL
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I'm surprised Dark isn't doing a nydus vs hellions
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Speaking of PL, I just learned JA won and $o$ is good again, wow!
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On May 22 2016 21:42 Ej_ wrote:
I'm surprised Dark isn't doing a nydus vs hellions
Me too. I thought nydus builds would have completely killed off hellion banshee openings.
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On May 22 2016 21:41 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 21:40 Ej_ wrote:On May 22 2016 21:39 opisska wrote:
If dark wins, stats will have him for breakfast anyway, no? The bane->BL style is completely figured now figured how lol oh, it was even actually stats who showed that in PL
Stats has 6-0 in PL against Zerg this year, as can be seen here. Would be interesting to see him against Dark, but I want to see TY.
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On May 22 2016 21:43 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 21:42 Ej_ wrote:
I'm surprised Dark isn't doing a nydus vs hellions Me too. I thought nydus builds would have completely killed off hellion banshee openings.
I think he just assumes TY would scout a nydus and make liberators instead of banshees.
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I hate the style Dark is doing. Completely reliant on Terran messing up and trying to headbutt into roach/bane
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I wonder why TY stopped doing that tank build that he mauled solar with.
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LOOK AT THE GROUND MOVE TY
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lol did Dark hide a spore behind an OL? sick
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Wow the sharkroaches are super effective
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TY's brain stopped working after the Roaches.
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those shark roaches did soooooo much, turned the game
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"I wonder what is he gonna use the borrow movement for... well he is probably gonna burrow some roaches and move them, right?". Artosis is on fire today
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wow ty is falling apart completely, dark suddenly got from behind to 50 supply ahead
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On May 22 2016 21:48 Poopfeast 024 wrote:
wow ty is falling apart completely, dark suddenly got from behind to 50 supply ahead
the roaches took him by surprise and then he was losing fights and harass units left and right. Great play by Dark.
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Dark's army wasn't really that much better but the fight wasn't even close. Too far behind
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The final match is today as well? Gonna be a long night for the koreans.
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Liberator-backed armies are pretty shit against banes in open terrain, the libs just don't make enough an impact with the absurd overkill
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Does anyone know, when does GSL Code A start? SSL starts on June 2, so GSL could start sometimes around this date as well?
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Artosis' would be "Cursed Pylon"
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more like "TY for the free win"
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How the fuck did TY let this shit work?
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well that went south for terran real quick
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THE BEST ZERG IN THE WORLD
BEATS AVILO
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LOL TY. Completely deserved to lose
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I hope Stats ruins Dark's day.
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Well I guess TY is never gonna win anything...pff
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Since that Avilo Game on Dusk Towers im a TY antifan.
NICE job Dark!
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wtf actually why do queens count only as 2 cargo size xD
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Meh, TY won't win anything and that's deserved.
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That was a really fun series. Now Stats 3:0 and we can all leave in peace
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On May 22 2016 21:59 Eiltonn wrote:
wtf actually why do queens count only as 2 cargo size xD
It's the dumbest cargo size since hellbats counting as 2 cargo size.
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Well, TY is an overrated player, I do not understand, how can the commentators call him all the time "the best terran in the world" when everybody except Noonius knows, who is the best terran in the world ...
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On May 22 2016 22:00 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 21:59 Eiltonn wrote:
wtf actually why do queens count only as 2 cargo size xD It's the dumbest cargo size since hellbats counting as 2 cargo size.
queens don't take much space in an overlord because they naturally belong there.
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On May 22 2016 22:00 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 21:59 Eiltonn wrote:
wtf actually why do queens count only as 2 cargo size xD It's the dumbest cargo size since hellbats counting as 2 cargo size.
Until then TvT was pure hellbat drops. It was disgusting.
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On May 22 2016 22:01 plogamer wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 22:00 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 21:59 Eiltonn wrote:
wtf actually why do queens count only as 2 cargo size xD It's the dumbest cargo size since hellbats counting as 2 cargo size. Until then TvT was pure hellbat drops. It was disgusting.
It wish Blizz reviewed reverting changes that might not be needed anymore
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On May 22 2016 22:01 plogamer wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 22:00 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 21:59 Eiltonn wrote:
wtf actually why do queens count only as 2 cargo size xD It's the dumbest cargo size since hellbats counting as 2 cargo size. Until then TvT was pure hellbat drops. It was disgusting.
The best time in TvT history ever. 500 dead SCVs total in a single game ...
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On May 22 2016 21:58 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
We got the worst final.
Yeah that sucks. Then again the other 3 possibilities are really, really good.
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On May 22 2016 22:03 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 22:01 plogamer wrote:On May 22 2016 22:00 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 21:59 Eiltonn wrote:
wtf actually why do queens count only as 2 cargo size xD It's the dumbest cargo size since hellbats counting as 2 cargo size. Until then TvT was pure hellbat drops. It was disgusting. It wish Blizz reviewed reverting changes that might not be needed anymore
Like the Swarmhost, that would be nice
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On May 22 2016 22:04 Elentos wrote:Yeah that sucks. Then again the other 3 possibilities are really, really good.
Is it because you guys dislike PvZ? Because Stats is really good at PvZ and I think it's going to be interesting who wins.
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On May 22 2016 22:05 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 22:04 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 21:58 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
We got the worst final. Yeah that sucks. Then again the other 3 possibilities are really, really good. Is it because you guys dislike PvZ? Because Stats is really good at PvZ and I think it's going to be interesting who wins.
it's because he gonna get rekt by The Best Zerg In The World
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On May 22 2016 22:05 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 22:04 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 21:58 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
We got the worst final. Yeah that sucks. Then again the other 3 possibilities are really, really good. Is it because you guys dislike PvZ? Because Stats is really good at PvZ and I think it's going to be interesting who wins.
Dark vs Zest is better because it's 2 champions. TY vs Zest is better because the GSL finals were amazing. TY vs Stats is better because then there's no chance for a champion to get extra WCS points and neither of them have ever won anything.
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On May 22 2016 22:00 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 21:59 Eiltonn wrote:
wtf actually why do queens count only as 2 cargo size xD It's the dumbest cargo size since hellbats counting as 2 cargo size.
It's the dumbest thing, how can you fit 2 tanks into a spaceship thats smaller than one of the tanks?
Maybe they disassemble the tanks when picking them up and really quickly reassemble them when they get dropped?
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This is the best final, we could hope for, because it is the only one without a team kill ...
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I can't wait for all season 1 ladder maps to finally disappear forever.
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On May 22 2016 22:12 Elentos wrote:
I can't wait for all season 1 ladder maps to finally disappear forever.
Ruins of Seras could be passable if they disabled the retarded vertical spawns
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On May 22 2016 22:12 Diabolique wrote:
This is the best final, we could hope for, because it is the only one without a team kill ...
What about Dark vs. Zest?
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On May 22 2016 22:12 Elentos wrote:
I can't wait for all season 1 ladder maps to finally disappear forever.
But, but ... Dusk Towers!
Do you have a minute to talk about how Dusk Towers is a good map?
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On May 22 2016 22:13 EatingBomber wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 22:12 Elentos wrote:
I can't wait for all season 1 ladder maps to finally disappear forever. Ruins of Seras could be passable if they disabled the retarded vertical spawns
It's ugly as sin and cross spawns are way too far apart.
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On May 22 2016 22:13 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 22:12 Diabolique wrote:
This is the best final, we could hope for, because it is the only one without a team kill ... What about Dark vs. Zest?
Damned ... of course, you are right ...
I meant this is the best final we could hope for, after Zest was beaten by Stats ...
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On May 22 2016 22:14 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 22:12 Elentos wrote:
I can't wait for all season 1 ladder maps to finally disappear forever. But, but ... Dusk Towers! Do you have a minute to talk about how Dusk Towers is a good map?
No, get it away, I don't need that map in my life.
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On May 22 2016 22:14 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 22:12 Elentos wrote:
I can't wait for all season 1 ladder maps to finally disappear forever. But, but ... Dusk Towers! Do you have a minute to talk about how Dusk Towers is a good map?
Inbase naturals are garbage
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On May 22 2016 22:15 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 22:14 opisska wrote:On May 22 2016 22:12 Elentos wrote:
I can't wait for all season 1 ladder maps to finally disappear forever. But, but ... Dusk Towers! Do you have a minute to talk about how Dusk Towers is a good map? Inbase naturals are garbage
Do you have a minute to talk about how everyone just turtles on Dusk Towers on ladder and it's impossible to kill them?
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OWNED. :D
5-0, the show continues!
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You go ruin his day, Stats.
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On May 22 2016 22:19 HolydaKing wrote:
OWNED. :D
BO win
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God, I love it when Protoss cheeses Zerg hard.
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I still think it kinda sucks the runner-up doesn't get WCS points. He won a BO5.
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On May 22 2016 22:21 Elentos wrote:
I still think it kinda sucks the runner-up doesn't get WCS points. He won a BO5.
Well, he gets some money at least. The runner-ups don't
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On May 22 2016 22:21 Elentos wrote:
I still think it kinda sucks the runner-up doesn't get WCS points. He won a BO5.
I once won a BO5 and never got any WCS points neither
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On May 22 2016 22:20 EatingBomber wrote:
God, I love it when Protoss cheeses Zerg hard.
SC2 must have been awesome for you
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On May 22 2016 22:22 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 22:21 Elentos wrote:
I still think it kinda sucks the runner-up doesn't get WCS points. He won a BO5. I once won a BO5 and never got any WCS points neither
I guess it wasn't against a KR premier finalist
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On May 22 2016 22:23 RaFox17 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 22:20 EatingBomber wrote:
God, I love it when Protoss cheeses Zerg hard. SC2 must have been awesome for you
he just said he loves pvz with different words
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Go Dark! The only contender from the weakest race ...
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Baneling drops were cool for a while
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seriously, explosives are the end of stats
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I bet those Probes will pop nicely soon
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Bad zealot micro from Stats, he could have crushed Dark there.
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Stats has a second robo, he's anticipating ultras. He's in real trouble if he doesn't kill Dark now
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wow how the hell did he do that well vs like 8 archons, dark is a magician
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"Archons are giant jerks like that"
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Wow what the hell is Stats doing this game?
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if Stats had had even 2 void rays he would have won with his second push
so dumb
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Lol Stats... that was terrible, stay there fighting broodlings without anti air.
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I love ling/baneling
Sadly we can only see it in ZvP now :'(
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that's it, stats is dead.
he managed to die vs a zerg after being 30 supply ahead.
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ling bling into blords such an entertaining razor edge style
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On May 22 2016 22:35 Poopfeast 024 wrote:
that's it, stats is dead.
he managed to die vs a zerg after being 30 supply ahead.
Game flipped as soon as Adrenal Glands &Gspire finished
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Aand the anti SKT winstreak ended.
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On May 22 2016 22:35 [PkF] Wire wrote:
ling bling into blords such an entertaining razor edge style
yeah this feels like a proper macro style for ZvP, even if you're getting counter-played you can still win. This is going to be the meta.
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Stats should have absolutely won this game, bad micro and the wrong transition ended up costing him.
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why do zergs make banelings against archons?
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On May 22 2016 22:35 [PkF] Wire wrote:
ling bling into blords such an entertaining razor edge style
exactly, this combination looks great!
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On May 22 2016 22:35 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 22:35 Poopfeast 024 wrote:
that's it, stats is dead.
he managed to die vs a zerg after being 30 supply ahead. Game flipped as soon as Adrenal Glands finished
It flipped when Dark had no broodlords and Stats got 20 zealots blown up by banelings for no reason.
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On May 22 2016 22:36 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 22:35 [PkF] Wire wrote:
ling bling into blords such an entertaining razor edge style yeah this feels like a proper macro style for ZvP, even if you're getting counter-played you can still win. This is going to be the meta.
there should be a slight chance lurker style (at least lurker hydra ling timings) make a resurgence to test the immortal shield nerf
then again I'm really happy if ling bling becomes the meta, that's indeed a great style.
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On May 22 2016 22:36 IMPrime wrote:
why do zergs make banelings against archons?
They are more against the cargelots and for drops.
Snute just tried ling/bane only and completely died vs archons. Don't do it. Lilbow just didn't get charge lol.
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On May 22 2016 22:37 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 22:36 IMPrime wrote:
why do zergs make banelings against archons? They are more against the cargelots and for drops. Snute just tried ling/bane only and completely died vs archons. Don't do it. Lilbow just didn't get charge lol.
archons made from DTs or HTs ?
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This whole thing made no sense if you allow Dark to win, Stats.
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On May 22 2016 22:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 22:37 Musicus wrote:On May 22 2016 22:36 IMPrime wrote:
why do zergs make banelings against archons? They are more against the cargelots and for drops. Snute just tried ling/bane only and completely died vs archons. Don't do it. Lilbow just didn't get charge lol. archons made from DTs or HTs ?
HTs, he took gases super early, had a big gas bank then added the templar archive and 10 gateways.
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On May 22 2016 22:40 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 22:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:On May 22 2016 22:37 Musicus wrote:On May 22 2016 22:36 IMPrime wrote:
why do zergs make banelings against archons? They are more against the cargelots and for drops. Snute just tried ling/bane only and completely died vs archons. Don't do it. Lilbow just didn't get charge lol. archons made from DTs or HTs ? HTs, he took gases super early, had a big gas bank then added the templar archive and 10 gateways.
ok
Snute is pretty well known to do a greedy mass ling bling style with a lot of bases/macro hatches, especially on Dusk Towers
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On May 22 2016 22:40 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 22:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:On May 22 2016 22:37 Musicus wrote:On May 22 2016 22:36 IMPrime wrote:
why do zergs make banelings against archons? They are more against the cargelots and for drops. Snute just tried ling/bane only and completely died vs archons. Don't do it. Lilbow just didn't get charge lol. archons made from DTs or HTs ? HTs, he took gases super early, had a big gas bank then added the templar archive and 10 gateways.
Sounds like Lilbow
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On May 22 2016 22:41 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 22:40 Musicus wrote:On May 22 2016 22:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:On May 22 2016 22:37 Musicus wrote:On May 22 2016 22:36 IMPrime wrote:
why do zergs make banelings against archons? They are more against the cargelots and for drops. Snute just tried ling/bane only and completely died vs archons. Don't do it. Lilbow just didn't get charge lol. archons made from DTs or HTs ? HTs, he took gases super early, had a big gas bank then added the templar archive and 10 gateways. ok Snute is pretty well known to do a greedy mass ling bling style with a lot of bases/macro hatches, especially on Dusk Towers
Yeah, that's where Lilbow blind countered him, but the weird think is that Snute tried it again in game 2 on Frozen temple. This time Lilbow went blink stalker mass sentry style and still won. Just endless forcefields vs the lings and sniped all the droplords.
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On May 22 2016 22:41 Shellshock wrote:
wow S2SL owned the GSL
That's okay, GSL won the archon match, that's the only one that matters anyway.
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I hope Stats wins this. He has been arround forever, just like TY and has never won anything
Btw, Zest simply cant win vs any KT player lol. This is hilarious. Everyone has beaten Zest in various tournaments the last 2-3 years and yet he is the most succesful of them all. They really must hate him deep inside
Ok with the expection of the GSL finals. I had forgotten about that
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On May 22 2016 22:37 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 22:36 Ej_ wrote:On May 22 2016 22:35 [PkF] Wire wrote:
ling bling into blords such an entertaining razor edge style yeah this feels like a proper macro style for ZvP, even if you're getting counter-played you can still win. This is going to be the meta. there should be a slight chance lurker style (at least lurker hydra ling timings) make a resurgence to test the immortal shield nerf then again I'm really happy if ling bling becomes the meta, that's indeed a great style.
ling bling >>>>> roach ravager to watch.
Infestor ravager makes me want to gouge my eyes out
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On May 22 2016 22:43 lastride wrote:I hope Stats wins this. He has been arround forever, just like TY and has never won anything Btw, Zest simply cant win vs any KT player lol. This is hilarious. Everyone has beaten Zest in various tournaments the last 2-3 years and yet he is the most succesful of them all. They really must hate him deep inside
Well, he beat TY in the GSL finals where it mattered the most
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On May 22 2016 22:43 Durnuu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 22:43 lastride wrote:I hope Stats wins this. He has been arround forever, just like TY and has never won anything Btw, Zest simply cant win vs any KT player lol. This is hilarious. Everyone has beaten Zest in various tournaments the last 2-3 years and yet he is the most succesful of them all. They really must hate him deep inside Well, he beat TY in the GSL finals where it mattered the most
TY would lose even against me if it was for a title for his career
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How many banelings are needed to kill an Archon?
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On May 22 2016 22:48 HolydaKing wrote:
How many banelings are needed to kill an Archon?
too many
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On May 22 2016 22:48 HolydaKing wrote:
How many banelings are needed to kill an Archon?
18 I think (without upgrades)
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Is that the counter to this play? Just attack with archons and wait with your zealots in the background?
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On May 22 2016 22:49 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 22:48 HolydaKing wrote:
How many banelings are needed to kill an Archon? too many
Idk, I remember a game where mass Thors got destroyed by Banelings. Then again those don't have splash.
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On May 22 2016 22:48 HolydaKing wrote:
How many banelings are needed to kill an Archon?
With no upgrades on anything just a casual 18 (maybe 19 if shields regen in time)
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did Dark just take too much damage early on ? Or was he a bit wasteful with the blings (using them on stalkers + sentries then on stalkers + archons during the fight) ?
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Dark please don't lose to Stats!
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On May 22 2016 22:50 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 22:48 HolydaKing wrote:
How many banelings are needed to kill an Archon? With no upgrades on anything just a casual 18.
18*25 = 450 gas, if you take out some zealots while killing the archon I think that's still manageable
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I thought it was gonna be vertical again. Ruins of Seras? It's usually always vertical.
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these are the queen/ravager all-in spawns
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On May 22 2016 22:52 Ej_ wrote:
these are the queen/ravager all-in spawns
Aren't those all spawns on all maps except 4-p maps cross?
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On May 22 2016 22:52 Ej_ wrote:
these are the queen/ravager all-in spawns
I see you're a connoisseur
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On May 22 2016 22:53 Elentos wrote:Aren't those all spawns on all maps except 4-p maps cross?
vertical ruins you do drops!
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On May 22 2016 22:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 22:50 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 22:48 HolydaKing wrote:
How many banelings are needed to kill an Archon? With no upgrades on anything just a casual 18. 18*25 = 450 gas, if you take out some zealots while killing the archon I think that's still manageable
The gas trade is ok but it also uses up 9 larva which sounds good for the Protoss still.
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On May 22 2016 22:53 Teoita wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 22:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:On May 22 2016 22:50 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 22:48 HolydaKing wrote:
How many banelings are needed to kill an Archon? With no upgrades on anything just a casual 18. 18*25 = 450 gas, if you take out some zealots while killing the archon I think that's still manageable The gas trade is ok but it also uses up 9 larva which sounds good for the Protoss still.
yeah this is the biggest problem with ling bling, you starve for larvae
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On May 22 2016 22:53 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 22:53 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 22:52 Ej_ wrote:
these are the queen/ravager all-in spawns Aren't those all spawns on all maps except 4-p maps cross? vertical ruins you do drops!
Yeah and this is probably the last time we'll see this map in tournament play. Hopefully.
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oh wait this is bo5. guess I should have paid attention to the tournament rules
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looking pretty terrible for Dark
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Those slow banes look so sad
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Dark is hoping Stats moves units into lurkers
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On May 22 2016 23:03 Pandemona wrote:
lol stats wtf . I see Dark in complete control here
Dark can´t attack. Stats gets some tempest and GG.
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lmao, that tag on the lurkers.
revelation so good
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On May 22 2016 23:05 Musicus wrote:
lmao, that tag on the lurkers.
revelation so good
OP as shit in my opinion.
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LOL the lurkers melted so hard
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STATS BEST KT
Hold me, Tasteless
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hahaha, Dark was just like "well fuck this shit, I'm going home"
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finally stats wins something, great games overall
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Did he just marched all his lurkers into all those immortals??
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Stats... champion? yeeeeeeeeeah.
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9 years for this moment. Doesn't even know what to do with the trophy.
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Stats the champion of champions!
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congrats on the wcs points Stats
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On May 22 2016 23:09 Kaizor wrote:
Did he just marched all his lurkers into all those immortals??
He was dead before that.
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you just can't do anything vs that style as Z. I think the immortal nerf won't be enough.
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On May 22 2016 23:10 Daswollvieh wrote:
Lol wtf was that dark?
He knew he was dead, he sped up the process.
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On May 22 2016 23:10 [PkF] Wire wrote:
you just can't do anything vs that style as Z. I think the immortal nerf won't be enough.
queen/ravager all-in!
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On May 22 2016 23:10 [PkF] Wire wrote:
you just can't do anything vs that style as Z. I think the immortal nerf won't be enough.
Tell me about it. A few more times dying to mass immortal push on ladder and i might hate them as much as WOL bl/infestor.
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With a Cross Finals win and SSL runner-up, he earned about as much money and WCS points as a Starleague champion.
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On May 22 2016 23:11 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 23:10 [PkF] Wire wrote:
you just can't do anything vs that style as Z. I think the immortal nerf won't be enough. queen/ravager all-in!
ha ha yeah
but I agree with the kespa feedback that a warp prism nerf should be on the table. I even think some slight adept nerf is required, it's still too strong.
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On May 22 2016 23:10 Shellshock wrote:
congrats on the wcs points Stats
And $17k. That takes his total for season 1 to $37k.
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Where's your crying Zealot now!
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On May 22 2016 23:12 sparklyresidue wrote:
Where's your crying Zealot now!
You can cry out of happiness too!
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On May 22 2016 23:12 sparklyresidue wrote:
Where's your crying Zealot now!
yeah it's quite amazing how the meta has switched and how P have learned to use the tools at their disposal while the mu looked really heavily Z favored some months ago. But I don't think Z can make the meta turn around again, ling bling only gets that far.
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KT staff is like "Shit how do we justify not sending him out for ace matches now?"
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Grats Stats!! More to come
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Did the cross finals feel a bit underwhelming to anyone else? Felt more like exhibition matches then an actual final.
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well it surely didn't look like stats just won after 8 years of not winning
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On May 22 2016 23:15 Makro wrote:
well it surely didn't look like stats just won after 8 years of not winning
the wcs points are nice but I don't think the tournament is established enough. I'm not even sure the preparation put into this event was that thorough.
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On May 22 2016 23:16 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 23:15 Makro wrote:
well it surely didn't look like stats just won after 8 years of not winning the wcs points are nice but I don't think the tournament is established enough. I'm not even sure the preparation put into this event was that thorough.
Well I mean, 3 out of 4 players had to play Proleague this week and came of a crushing loss.
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Fuck yeah, Code A starts on the 27th ! :D
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On May 22 2016 23:17 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 23:16 [PkF] Wire wrote:On May 22 2016 23:15 Makro wrote:
well it surely didn't look like stats just won after 8 years of not winning the wcs points are nice but I don't think the tournament is established enough. I'm not even sure the preparation put into this event was that thorough. Well I mean, 3 out of 4 players had to play Proleague this week and came of a crushing loss.
yeah the schedule was a bit awkward
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On May 22 2016 23:14 Lil_nooblet wrote:
Did the cross finals feel a bit underwhelming to anyone else? Felt more like exhibition matches then an actual final.
Hmm, a bit. I enjoyed the games a lot, but the venue and everything seems inferior to SSL and GSL finals, which is of course understandable, but considering this is even higher quality of players (by default), I can see why you'd think so.
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WOOOOW, 27/5 Friday, great!!!!
1 p.m.? What does it mean for Europe?
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Oh SSL is at 1PM KST, fuck
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On May 22 2016 23:18 Durnuu wrote:Oh SSL is at 1PM KST, fuck
Yes. Their Challenge format with the RR groups & SPOTV getting LoL broadcast rights makes for a fugly schedule.
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On May 22 2016 23:18 Diabolique wrote:
WOOOOW, 27/5 Friday, great!!!!
1 p.m.? What does it mean for Europe?
it means 6am CEST
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On May 22 2016 23:19 Makro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 23:18 Diabolique wrote:
WOOOOW, 27/5 Friday, great!!!!
1 p.m.? What does it mean for Europe? it means 6am CEST
:-(((((((((((((((((((
Damned!
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On May 22 2016 23:18 Durnuu wrote:Oh SSL is at 1PM KST, fuck
That's 06:00 or 6 AM CEST right?
edit: too slow. ^^
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This reminds me of the time when SKT had Rain, Classic and Parting and protoss was the shit...
Hope the immortal nerf does what it's supposed to do.
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On May 22 2016 23:20 CynicalDeath wrote:...1pm KST is 6am in Europe...
Better wake up early!
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That is stupid, how SC2 is becoming a tier 2 esport ... they remove SC2 from IEMs, now they put it at the worst times ... I better do not think, what will happen in 2017 ...
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On May 22 2016 23:21 Daswollvieh wrote:
This reminds me of the time when SKT had Rain, Classic and Parting and protoss was the shit...
Hope the immortal nerf does what it's supposed to do.
it won't. The problem is that right now P has the best harass (warp prism) and the best defensive mechanism (overcharge) in the game. This doesn't add up. A WP nerf is 100% needed, and if you ask me a slight adept nerf should be on the table too.
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On May 22 2016 23:22 Diabolique wrote:
That is stupid, how SC2 is becoming a tier 2 esport ... they remove SC2 from IEMs, now they put it at the worst times ... I better do not think, what will happen in 2017 ...
Riot (League of legends) decided to divide the casting between OGN and SPOT TV
that's why they moved out the proleague to saturday and right now starcraft at 1pm
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On May 22 2016 23:22 Diabolique wrote:
That is stupid, how SC2 is becoming a tier 2 esport ... they remove SC2 from IEMs, now they put it at the worst times ... I better do not think, what will happen in 2017 ...
Part of it is also because every day of SSL Challenge is at least 30 games. That's double a GSL group. That's gonna take a while.
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On May 22 2016 23:22 Diabolique wrote:
That is stupid, how SC2 is becoming a tier 2 esport ... they remove SC2 from IEMs, now they put it at the worst times ... I better do not think, what will happen in 2017 ...
There are also IEMs with no CS:GO or LoL. It's not only sc2 that's not at every IEM this year.
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On May 22 2016 23:22 RaFox17 wrote:Better wake up early!
It's traditionally been 4:30 or 5:00AM EST here in the US so quit crying. 6am would be spectacular.
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On May 22 2016 23:23 Makro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 23:22 Diabolique wrote:
That is stupid, how SC2 is becoming a tier 2 esport ... they remove SC2 from IEMs, now they put it at the worst times ... I better do not think, what will happen in 2017 ... Riot (League of legends) decided to divide the casting between OGN and SPOT TV that's why they moved out the proleague to saturday and right now starcraft at 1pm
I at least hope, Proleague will not be moved to 6 a.m. as well .... anyway, Proleague is my favorite competition, I enjoy it much more than GSL / SSL ... So it would be nice to be able to watch at least Proleague ...
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On May 22 2016 23:23 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 23:22 Diabolique wrote:
That is stupid, how SC2 is becoming a tier 2 esport ... they remove SC2 from IEMs, now they put it at the worst times ... I better do not think, what will happen in 2017 ... Part of it is also because every day of SSL Challenge is at least 30 games. That's double a GSL group. That's gonna take a while.
Wait, have they confirmed that all 30 are played on 1 day? That sounds mental
I assumed OSL format where we might get 2 matches from each group per day
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On May 22 2016 23:25 thecrazymunchkin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 23:23 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 23:22 Diabolique wrote:
That is stupid, how SC2 is becoming a tier 2 esport ... they remove SC2 from IEMs, now they put it at the worst times ... I better do not think, what will happen in 2017 ... Part of it is also because every day of SSL Challenge is at least 30 games. That's double a GSL group. That's gonna take a while. Wait, have they confirmed that all 30 are played on 1 day? That sounds mental I assumed OSL format where we might get 2 matches from each group per day
yeah if everything is played the same day it's gonna be crazy
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On May 22 2016 23:23 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 23:22 Diabolique wrote:
That is stupid, how SC2 is becoming a tier 2 esport ... they remove SC2 from IEMs, now they put it at the worst times ... I better do not think, what will happen in 2017 ... Part of it is also because every day of SSL Challenge is at least 30 games. That's double a GSL group. That's gonna take a while.
You mean, it is 6 am only for SSL challenge? Not for GSL? Not for SSL bracket later?
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On May 22 2016 23:25 thecrazymunchkin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 23:23 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 23:22 Diabolique wrote:
That is stupid, how SC2 is becoming a tier 2 esport ... they remove SC2 from IEMs, now they put it at the worst times ... I better do not think, what will happen in 2017 ... Part of it is also because every day of SSL Challenge is at least 30 games. That's double a GSL group. That's gonna take a while. Wait, have they confirmed that all 30 are played on 1 day? That sounds mental I assumed OSL format where we might get 2 matches from each group per day
Well the original schedule they released said Group A June 2, Group B June 9, etc. so I just assume they do full groups.
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Woohoo Stats! !!!!! So happy for him 
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I wonder when they are gonna announce the ssl challenger groups. Kind of annoying they still haven't told us.
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On May 22 2016 23:26 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 23:23 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 23:22 Diabolique wrote:
That is stupid, how SC2 is becoming a tier 2 esport ... they remove SC2 from IEMs, now they put it at the worst times ... I better do not think, what will happen in 2017 ... Part of it is also because every day of SSL Challenge is at least 30 games. That's double a GSL group. That's gonna take a while. You mean, it is 6 am only for SSL challenge? Not for GSL? Not for SSL bracket later?
GSL and Proleague will not be at 6 AM and I have no idea about the main tournament for SSL.
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On May 22 2016 23:27 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 23:26 Diabolique wrote:On May 22 2016 23:23 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 23:22 Diabolique wrote:
That is stupid, how SC2 is becoming a tier 2 esport ... they remove SC2 from IEMs, now they put it at the worst times ... I better do not think, what will happen in 2017 ... Part of it is also because every day of SSL Challenge is at least 30 games. That's double a GSL group. That's gonna take a while. You mean, it is 6 am only for SSL challenge? Not for GSL? Not for SSL bracket later? GSL and Proleague will not be at 6 AM and I have no idea about the main tournament for SSL.
OK, then it is great. This SSL challenge are only these 4 days, and it seems that interesting that we can wake up early for it. I was afraid, it will be a timing for the whole season of GSL.
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On May 22 2016 23:29 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 23:27 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 23:26 Diabolique wrote:On May 22 2016 23:23 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 23:22 Diabolique wrote:
That is stupid, how SC2 is becoming a tier 2 esport ... they remove SC2 from IEMs, now they put it at the worst times ... I better do not think, what will happen in 2017 ... Part of it is also because every day of SSL Challenge is at least 30 games. That's double a GSL group. That's gonna take a while. You mean, it is 6 am only for SSL challenge? Not for GSL? Not for SSL bracket later? GSL and Proleague will not be at 6 AM and I have no idea about the main tournament for SSL. OK, then it is great. This SSL challenge are only these 4 days, and it seems that interesting that we can wake up early for it. I was afraid, it will be a timing for the whole season of GSL.
Nah, the graphic at the bottom said GSL is still 6:30 PM KST which is 11:30 CEST as usual.
I think Proleague will be an hour earlier on Monday and Tuesday though.
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On May 22 2016 23:31 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 23:29 Diabolique wrote:On May 22 2016 23:27 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 23:26 Diabolique wrote:On May 22 2016 23:23 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 23:22 Diabolique wrote:
That is stupid, how SC2 is becoming a tier 2 esport ... they remove SC2 from IEMs, now they put it at the worst times ... I better do not think, what will happen in 2017 ... Part of it is also because every day of SSL Challenge is at least 30 games. That's double a GSL group. That's gonna take a while. You mean, it is 6 am only for SSL challenge? Not for GSL? Not for SSL bracket later? GSL and Proleague will not be at 6 AM and I have no idea about the main tournament for SSL. OK, then it is great. This SSL challenge are only these 4 days, and it seems that interesting that we can wake up early for it. I was afraid, it will be a timing for the whole season of GSL. Nah, the graphic at the bottom said GSL is still 6:30 PM KST which is 11:30 CEST as usual. I think Proleague will be an hour earlier on Monday and Tuesday though.
Thanks. Hour sooner is great.
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7am for me, sometimes it's good to be unemployed.
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On May 22 2016 23:31 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 23:31 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 23:29 Diabolique wrote:On May 22 2016 23:27 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 23:26 Diabolique wrote:On May 22 2016 23:23 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 23:22 Diabolique wrote:
That is stupid, how SC2 is becoming a tier 2 esport ... they remove SC2 from IEMs, now they put it at the worst times ... I better do not think, what will happen in 2017 ... Part of it is also because every day of SSL Challenge is at least 30 games. That's double a GSL group. That's gonna take a while. You mean, it is 6 am only for SSL challenge? Not for GSL? Not for SSL bracket later? GSL and Proleague will not be at 6 AM and I have no idea about the main tournament for SSL. OK, then it is great. This SSL challenge are only these 4 days, and it seems that interesting that we can wake up early for it. I was afraid, it will be a timing for the whole season of GSL. Nah, the graphic at the bottom said GSL is still 6:30 PM KST which is 11:30 CEST as usual. I think Proleague will be an hour earlier on Monday and Tuesday though. Thanks. Hour sooner is great.
Oh and Proleague will be 1 game Monday, 1 game Tuesday and 2 games Saturday.
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GZ Stats!
Nice to see him win this, but how much do we value this victory?
At the end of the day it was a 4 player tournament, pretty hard to say 
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All in all, I thought the games were pretty entertaining and high level (even including the archon match), and arguably as good or even better than the GSL and SSL finals. A lot was on the line: money and WCS points. And the players did play their hearts out, and there was no major tilt. Also there were some interesting plays, especially TY's speed banshee build.
Aside from the lack of hype and tight scheduling so close to Proleague finals, I'm really not sure why people would see this as an 'exhibition' tournament.
Cross final is a success!
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On May 23 2016 00:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:GZ Stats! Nice to see him win this, but how much do we value this victory? At the end of the day it was a 4 player tournament, pretty hard to say
Well he did beat both reigning Starleague champions convincingly in a longer series with quite a bit of money on the line. And when you can do that, I don't really think it matters if it's a 4 player tournament. You're still pretty damn good and it's still a strong showing.
Obviously he didn't win a GSL today, but it was a great performance nonetheless.
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Nice to see Stats kick everyone's ass.
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On May 23 2016 00:55 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2016 00:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:GZ Stats! Nice to see him win this, but how much do we value this victory? At the end of the day it was a 4 player tournament, pretty hard to say Well he did beat both reigning Starleague champions convincingly in a longer series with quite a bit of money on the line. And when you can do that, I don't really think it matters if it's a 4 player tournament. You're still pretty damn good and it's still a strong showing. Obviously he didn't win a GSL today, but it was a great performance nonetheless.
Oh don't get me wrong, i certainly think Stats is one of the best players in the world right now and today proved that.
But in general, how much do we value the cross finals? It's kinda meh i think :/
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On May 23 2016 01:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2016 00:55 Elentos wrote:On May 23 2016 00:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:GZ Stats! Nice to see him win this, but how much do we value this victory? At the end of the day it was a 4 player tournament, pretty hard to say Well he did beat both reigning Starleague champions convincingly in a longer series with quite a bit of money on the line. And when you can do that, I don't really think it matters if it's a 4 player tournament. You're still pretty damn good and it's still a strong showing. Obviously he didn't win a GSL today, but it was a great performance nonetheless. Oh don't get me wrong, i certainly think Stats is one of the best players in the world right now and today proved that. But in general, how much do we value the cross finals? It's kinda meh i think :/
Considering that the qualifying requirement is top 2 in a Korean Starleague I'd say it's still pretty big in the end. I mean it's almost impossible to qualify for it, let alone win it, for the vast majority of pro players. And it's not like it's Blizzcon where some participants get to play months after they've dropped out of their peak form. So it's a high level competition that's incredibly hard to get to. I don't think the fact that it's 4 players hurts a lot. Obviously it's not anywhere near the level of a Starleague, but this year I don't think anything is, as I'm doubtful about the "Global Playoffs".
It would have been nicer if it hadn't been on the same weekend as Proleague playoffs though, I think that would have elevated the level a bit more. Not just the level of play mind you, also the hype levels.
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Probably... Stats asked Zest and TY to let him get into final to beat Dark for revenge
now even if they are lost in proleague, KT Rolster has become the king of individual tournament :D
Grats to Stats... I'm rooting for TY vs Stats final but oh well...
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Chintoss bringing great honor to the KT Protoss line
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On May 23 2016 01:35 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2016 01:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:On May 23 2016 00:55 Elentos wrote:On May 23 2016 00:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:GZ Stats! Nice to see him win this, but how much do we value this victory? At the end of the day it was a 4 player tournament, pretty hard to say Well he did beat both reigning Starleague champions convincingly in a longer series with quite a bit of money on the line. And when you can do that, I don't really think it matters if it's a 4 player tournament. You're still pretty damn good and it's still a strong showing. Obviously he didn't win a GSL today, but it was a great performance nonetheless. Oh don't get me wrong, i certainly think Stats is one of the best players in the world right now and today proved that. But in general, how much do we value the cross finals? It's kinda meh i think :/ Considering that the qualifying requirement is top 2 in a Korean Starleague I'd say it's still pretty big in the end. I mean it's almost impossible to qualify for it, let alone win it, for the vast majority of pro players. And it's not like it's Blizzcon where some participants get to play months after they've dropped out of their peak form. So it's a high level competition that's incredibly hard to get to. I don't think the fact that it's 4 players hurts a lot. Obviously it's not anywhere near the level of a Starleague, but this year I don't think anything is, as I'm doubtful about the "Global Playoffs". It would have been nicer if it hadn't been on the same weekend as Proleague playoffs though, I think that would have elevated the level a bit more. Not just the level of play mind you, also the hype levels.
Hm yeah it being played at the same weekend as pl finals did hurt i guess. Still i feel like it would be more hype if it were more players, say top 4 of both leagues for example, you could make groups, etc.
Still, the games are high level and as you said it's likely that the players are still on their a game, so it defenitely is good enough.
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On May 23 2016 02:55 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2016 01:35 Elentos wrote:On May 23 2016 01:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:On May 23 2016 00:55 Elentos wrote:On May 23 2016 00:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:GZ Stats! Nice to see him win this, but how much do we value this victory? At the end of the day it was a 4 player tournament, pretty hard to say Well he did beat both reigning Starleague champions convincingly in a longer series with quite a bit of money on the line. And when you can do that, I don't really think it matters if it's a 4 player tournament. You're still pretty damn good and it's still a strong showing. Obviously he didn't win a GSL today, but it was a great performance nonetheless. Oh don't get me wrong, i certainly think Stats is one of the best players in the world right now and today proved that. But in general, how much do we value the cross finals? It's kinda meh i think :/ Considering that the qualifying requirement is top 2 in a Korean Starleague I'd say it's still pretty big in the end. I mean it's almost impossible to qualify for it, let alone win it, for the vast majority of pro players. And it's not like it's Blizzcon where some participants get to play months after they've dropped out of their peak form. So it's a high level competition that's incredibly hard to get to. I don't think the fact that it's 4 players hurts a lot. Obviously it's not anywhere near the level of a Starleague, but this year I don't think anything is, as I'm doubtful about the "Global Playoffs". It would have been nicer if it hadn't been on the same weekend as Proleague playoffs though, I think that would have elevated the level a bit more. Not just the level of play mind you, also the hype levels. Hm yeah it being played at the same weekend as pl finals did hurt i guess. Still i feel like it would be more hype if it were more players, say top 4 of both leagues for example, you could make groups, etc. Still, the games are high level and as you said it's likely that the players are still on their a game, so it defenitely is good enough.
So make it more like the 2013 WCS season finals? I liked those so I wouldn't mind. Doesn't seem feasible to do that on a single day though, and I reckon being able to do it on a single day was probably important to the organizers. Especially since it being multiple days would just be a scheduling disaster with Proleague on weekends.
Meanwhile, remember when they announced KeSPA Cup would take place in May? What happened to that? Someone go annoy Wolf about that.
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On May 22 2016 23:27 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 23:25 thecrazymunchkin wrote:On May 22 2016 23:23 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 23:22 Diabolique wrote:
That is stupid, how SC2 is becoming a tier 2 esport ... they remove SC2 from IEMs, now they put it at the worst times ... I better do not think, what will happen in 2017 ... Part of it is also because every day of SSL Challenge is at least 30 games. That's double a GSL group. That's gonna take a while. Wait, have they confirmed that all 30 are played on 1 day? That sounds mental I assumed OSL format where we might get 2 matches from each group per day Well the original schedule they released said Group A June 2, Group B June 9, etc. so I just assume they do full groups.
That would be absurd. Matches + time inbetween can easily be 20 min on average. 3 matches take an hour and 30 10 hours. Even if we tone it down to an average of 15 min between game starts we end up with 7,5 hours.
Nope I don't think its gonna happen.
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Not to mention Stats beat the best PvPer and vest ZvPer.
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What were the best games of Stats vs Dark?
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On May 23 2016 04:17 Aunvilgodess wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 23:27 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 23:25 thecrazymunchkin wrote:On May 22 2016 23:23 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 23:22 Diabolique wrote:
That is stupid, how SC2 is becoming a tier 2 esport ... they remove SC2 from IEMs, now they put it at the worst times ... I better do not think, what will happen in 2017 ... Part of it is also because every day of SSL Challenge is at least 30 games. That's double a GSL group. That's gonna take a while. Wait, have they confirmed that all 30 are played on 1 day? That sounds mental I assumed OSL format where we might get 2 matches from each group per day Well the original schedule they released said Group A June 2, Group B June 9, etc. so I just assume they do full groups. That would be absurd. Matches + time inbetween can easily be 20 min on average. 3 matches take an hour and 30 10 hours. Even if we tone it down to an average of 15 min between game starts we end up with 7,5 hours. Nope I don't think its gonna happen.
Logically it wouldn't really make sense. But the schedule they showed on screen during the qualifiers had only 1 day per group, and the teaser for Starleague said Challenge would take place every Thursday in June. So SPOTV being batshit crazy and going for 30 games a day is what I'm rolling with.
If they did like half the games for one group and then had a month of break until they play the other half of that group that's just a giant mess.
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On May 23 2016 05:21 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2016 04:17 Aunvilgodess wrote:On May 22 2016 23:27 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 23:25 thecrazymunchkin wrote:On May 22 2016 23:23 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 23:22 Diabolique wrote:
That is stupid, how SC2 is becoming a tier 2 esport ... they remove SC2 from IEMs, now they put it at the worst times ... I better do not think, what will happen in 2017 ... Part of it is also because every day of SSL Challenge is at least 30 games. That's double a GSL group. That's gonna take a while. Wait, have they confirmed that all 30 are played on 1 day? That sounds mental I assumed OSL format where we might get 2 matches from each group per day Well the original schedule they released said Group A June 2, Group B June 9, etc. so I just assume they do full groups. That would be absurd. Matches + time inbetween can easily be 20 min on average. 3 matches take an hour and 30 10 hours. Even if we tone it down to an average of 15 min between game starts we end up with 7,5 hours. Nope I don't think its gonna happen. Logically it wouldn't really make sense. But the schedule they showed on screen during the qualifiers had only 1 day per group, and the teaser for Starleague said Challenge would take place every Thursday in June. So SPOTV being batshit crazy and going for 30 games a day is what I'm rolling with. If they did like half the games for one group and then had a month of break until they play the other half of that group that's just a giant mess.
Would be funny though
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On May 23 2016 05:03 Aunvilgodess wrote:
What were the best games of Stats vs Dark?
Game 2 on Dusk Towers was by far the best one. Game 3&4 were decent at best. Game 1 was kinda funny for all the Protoss reasons.
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On May 23 2016 04:17 Aunvilgodess wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2016 23:27 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 23:25 thecrazymunchkin wrote:On May 22 2016 23:23 Elentos wrote:On May 22 2016 23:22 Diabolique wrote:
That is stupid, how SC2 is becoming a tier 2 esport ... they remove SC2 from IEMs, now they put it at the worst times ... I better do not think, what will happen in 2017 ... Part of it is also because every day of SSL Challenge is at least 30 games. That's double a GSL group. That's gonna take a while. Wait, have they confirmed that all 30 are played on 1 day? That sounds mental I assumed OSL format where we might get 2 matches from each group per day Well the original schedule they released said Group A June 2, Group B June 9, etc. so I just assume they do full groups. That would be absurd. Matches + time inbetween can easily be 20 min on average. 3 matches take an hour and 30 10 hours. Even if we tone it down to an average of 15 min between game starts we end up with 7,5 hours. Nope I don't think its gonna happen.
I am sure, it will be played in one day. Therefore, it is not BO3, but this funny system with 2 games each, so 30 games in total. I expect, some games will be played simultaneously. It is just a challenge, so the casters can choose, which games to broadcast and which ones will be played without streaming.
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Stats is a very weird player. He is not flashy in any sensible way and I am not even aware of any "style" he would have. But all his games I have seen recently have a very similar theme - they were "kinda solid". He even does mistakes, he is well capable of forgetting units or outright botching micro, or even doing tactical mistakes of attacking at wrong times, yet he somehow manages to win and to look quite convincingly in it. It is a quality that's really hard to grasp, but it works.
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On May 23 2016 09:10 opisska wrote:
Stats is a very weird player. He is not flashy in any sensible way and I am not even aware of any "style" he would have. But all his games I have seen recently have a very similar theme - they were "kinda solid". He even does mistakes, he is well capable of forgetting units or outright botching micro, or even doing tactical mistakes of attacking at wrong times, yet he somehow manages to win and to look quite convincingly in it. It is a quality that's really hard to grasp, but it works.
I like Stats. Because he loses to sOs. Even when Stats is in his top form and sOs is not, sOs manages to create some fear in Stats, take a risk and win. If there was a player on the other side, in whom sOs cannot create fear (like Innovation), sOs would lose.
On Saturday, if Stats attacked sOs when he created his second and third nexus and did not have any sizeable army, sOs would lose and KT would be probably the winner of Proleague. But somehow, Stats was afraid to attack, even to scout. Therefore, I like Stats :-)
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On May 23 2016 01:35 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2016 01:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:On May 23 2016 00:55 Elentos wrote:On May 23 2016 00:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:GZ Stats! Nice to see him win this, but how much do we value this victory? At the end of the day it was a 4 player tournament, pretty hard to say Well he did beat both reigning Starleague champions convincingly in a longer series with quite a bit of money on the line. And when you can do that, I don't really think it matters if it's a 4 player tournament. You're still pretty damn good and it's still a strong showing. Obviously he didn't win a GSL today, but it was a great performance nonetheless. Oh don't get me wrong, i certainly think Stats is one of the best players in the world right now and today proved that. But in general, how much do we value the cross finals? It's kinda meh i think :/ Considering that the qualifying requirement is top 2 in a Korean Starleague I'd say it's still pretty big in the end. I mean it's almost impossible to qualify for it, let alone win it, for the vast majority of pro players. And it's not like it's Blizzcon where some participants get to play months after they've dropped out of their peak form. So it's a high level competition that's incredibly hard to get to. I don't think the fact that it's 4 players hurts a lot. Obviously it's not anywhere near the level of a Starleague, but this year I don't think anything is, as I'm doubtful about the "Global Playoffs".
I love this point - that since the Cross Final is closer to the Starleague finals, it's a tournament with the top players at their peak. And I think it really showed in the games - all 4 players were playing top level stuff, without massive tilts and mistakes. Same reason why I've always enjoyed KeSPA Cup.
Would expanding the tournament from 4 to 8 be better? Of course, more diversity and more chance to see high level play from the Starleague semi-finalists. I think 8 players is the max - anything more would be running close to a weekend Starleague and diminish the 'elite' factor of the tourney. But a 4-player tourney is really good enough to guarantee high level play - the only thing it really suffers from is diversity.
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On May 23 2016 12:58 juicyjames wrote:
Any recommended matches?
The entire TY vs. Dark set and Game 2 of Stats vs Dark. As for the PvPs, depends how much you like PvP...
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On May 23 2016 10:24 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2016 09:10 opisska wrote:
Stats is a very weird player. He is not flashy in any sensible way and I am not even aware of any "style" he would have. But all his games I have seen recently have a very similar theme - they were "kinda solid". He even does mistakes, he is well capable of forgetting units or outright botching micro, or even doing tactical mistakes of attacking at wrong times, yet he somehow manages to win and to look quite convincingly in it. It is a quality that's really hard to grasp, but it works. I like Stats. Because he loses to sOs. Even when Stats is in his top form and sOs is not, sOs manages to create some fear in Stats, take a risk and win. If there was a player on the other side, in whom sOs cannot create fear (like Innovation), sOs would lose. On Saturday, if Stats attacked sOs when he created his second and third nexus and did not have any sizeable army, sOs would lose and KT would be probably the winner of Proleague. But somehow, Stats was afraid to attack, even to scout. Therefore, I like Stats :-)
Stats could not commit and kill sOs since he had pylons ready at the ramp of his main and if Stats could not kill him, he would be behind because oracles. sOs thought that would be the case and kept on massing oracles and producing probes.
Imho tho, Stats is doing what Rain was doing-- adding cheesy plays with his solid play to get the wins. Rain himself said at the SSL qualitfiers said that this method got the most wins when he himself did it.
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On May 23 2016 09:10 opisska wrote:
Stats is a very weird player. He is not flashy in any sensible way and I am not even aware of any "style" he would have. But all his games I have seen recently have a very similar theme - they were "kinda solid". He even does mistakes, he is well capable of forgetting units or outright botching micro, or even doing tactical mistakes of attacking at wrong times, yet he somehow manages to win and to look quite convincingly in it. It is a quality that's really hard to grasp, but it works.
Dunno why but he reminds me of sOs.... maybe his love for dts and cheesy plays into macro?
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Pandemona
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On May 23 2016 05:03 Aunvilgodess wrote:
What were the best games of Stats vs Dark?
Game 2 was a very nice build from Dark. But the whole series was a decent pace, would recommend all 4 games.
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Congrat STATS!
I intended to do a timing whine before 3rd mail but TL's mail icon is wayyyyy too small so i missed the second mail and got banned for 2 days.
Such unfortunate.......
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