EPTEverything. 3 gate adepts doing nothing, 1 stargate doing nothing, faking pressure that does nothing, adding more gates that do nothing. All the while not taking a 3rd.
I dunno, it just seems like there's better things to do.
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Elentos
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Everything. 3 gate adepts doing nothing, 1 stargate doing nothing, faking pressure that does nothing, adding more gates that do nothing. All the while not taking a 3rd. I dunno, it just seems like there's better things to do. | ||
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Penev
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On February 22 2016 21:08 brickrd wrote: would there be something wrong with just going back to requiring creep for a nydus? you always have an overlord anyway to spot for the nydus, and you need lair tech which means you can poop creep. i don't think it would be too weak for zerg, because you could position overlords away from the cliff and have the edge of the creep overlapping with your opponent's base. it shouldn't even be easy to just nydus into someone's base, if they have vision and deny overlords they should be rewarded for that... i think everyone wants nydus into the main to be a fun and balanced strat, but forcing it isn't the way Requiring creep for the nydus is the best solution to address this problem I agree EDIT: CLICKED THE WRONG BUTTON AGAIN | ||
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
On February 22 2016 21:10 Elentos wrote: Everything. 3 gate adepts doing nothing, 1 stargate doing nothing, faking pressure that does nothing, adding more gates that do nothing. All the while not taking a 3rd. my interpretation of what happened was seed was planning to do a 2base allin. the first wave was when he sent adept shades toward the third and canceled them because of ling/queen in position, and he made more gates to follow it up with the main attack. meanwhile dark probably started planning the nydus when he saw the stargate. seed eventually had a third down and zerg had 53 drones, so i think if the nydus never happened seed's build was fine | ||
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seemsgood
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On February 22 2016 21:08 brickrd wrote: would there be something wrong with just going back to requiring creep for a nydus? you always have an overlord anyway to spot for the nydus, and you need lair tech which means you can poop creep. i don't think it would be too weak for zerg, because you could position overlords away from the cliff and have the edge of the creep overlapping with your opponent's base. it shouldn't even be easy to just nydus into someone's base, if they have vision and deny overlords they should be rewarded for that... i think everyone wants nydus into the main to be a fun and balanced strat, but forcing it isn't the way I actually don't like the nydus concept at all tbh. The only use is to allin, it literally is useless in any other case. Do we really need such a game mechanic? It was already like that in hots, but at least it could be damaged if you saw it building  | ||
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seemsgood
5527 Posts
On February 22 2016 21:11 Penev wrote: Requiring creep for the nydus is the best solution to address this problem I agree EDIT: CLICKED THE WRONG BUTTON AGAIN Yeah this also good idea but should give it a late cheap ass upgrade to remove creep require. | ||
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lestye
United States4228 Posts
On February 22 2016 21:01 Penev wrote: gg, you didn't watch the worker supply Tasteless Yeah.... Tasteless would really harsh on this "strategy" dismissing it outright as terrible. I only caught the tail end of tonight's Proleague. Has Nydus been this much of an issue in the last week or so? This is the first game I've seen with it. | ||
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mCon.Hephaistas
Netherlands891 Posts
It's not like nydus is so strong that you see it almost every game, it's fine for now, just punished greedy play. | ||
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Elentos
55593 Posts
On February 23 2016 00:27 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: Zerg wins one game today, people start complaining :D It's not like nydus is so strong that you see it almost every game, it's fine for now, just punished greedy play. Well, I'm not gonna call the nydus imba, but calling Seed's play greedy is a bit of a stretch. He went to 6 gates and a stargate off of 2 bases and delayed his 3rd for a long time. He looked to be doing an all-in that he aborted later. It's not like he died because he had no units. | ||
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usopsama
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On February 23 2016 00:27 mCon.Hephaistas wrote: Zerg wins one game today, people start complaining :D It's not like nydus is so strong that you see it almost every game, it's fine for now, just punished greedy play. It's not about balance, it's about bad design. The Nydus worm is incredibly stupid, it was stupid in hots and in lotv blizzard decided to make it even worse. Players will find ways to defend pretty much anything in most cases, that doesn't mean that it's good gameplay (to play and/or to watch) | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37101 Posts
Also, lol @ that last game. Even as a SKT fan, that was just disgusting to watch. Nydus worms really ruin SC2 for the viewers ://///// | ||
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therabit
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stuchiu
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