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wtf, what happened to late game herO ....
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On February 19 2016 20:57 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 20:55 solidbebe wrote:On February 19 2016 20:51 sAsImre wrote:On February 19 2016 20:50 solidbebe wrote:On February 19 2016 20:46 sAsImre wrote:On February 19 2016 20:45 solidbebe wrote:
Marauders need to get out of this game. It was actually an interesting game until dream just started massing maruaders. is this 2010 ? Sure looks like it. But since MMM criticism has been done to death, lets just leave it. so Terrans should make mass marines vs colossi/storm/disruptor? When dream was using tank marine medivac there was a lot of interesting positional micro going on imo. Between marine marauder medivac and marine tank medivac, which is more interesting to you? Purely from a viewers perspective. the latter cause it's not even close if the P gets enough aoe vs marine/tank. And I like close fights that don't rely on you having 2/2 vs 1/1 to lose it just slightly. which happened in the 1st engagement. If you can't see the beauty of Dream's bio control you should probably stick to roach vs roach.
Well I guess we disagree then. To me MMM micro is just not interesting.
Maybe with the tank damage buff tanks will be more viable against protoss, I hope so at least.
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Elentos
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On February 19 2016 20:57 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 20:57 RvB wrote:On February 19 2016 20:56 Heartland wrote:
yeah so the new colossus are not so good If you attack in a concave like that yeah. yeah, but the marauders also hit them a lot easier than they did in the past. They can't hide in the back as they used to with the lower range
The range nerf was reverted wasn't it?
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On February 19 2016 20:59 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 20:57 Heartland wrote:On February 19 2016 20:57 RvB wrote:On February 19 2016 20:56 Heartland wrote:
yeah so the new colossus are not so good If you attack in a concave like that yeah. yeah, but the marauders also hit them a lot easier than they did in the past. They can't hide in the back as they used to with the lower range The range nerf was reverted wasn't it?
really?
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Dream panic click his liberators.Great game any way.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On February 19 2016 20:59 Pandemona wrote:Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 2Good Game (12) 80% Meh Game (2) 13% Bad Game (1) 7% Excellent Game (0) 0% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 2 (Vote): Excellent Game
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I don't know how other people are evaluating these games... and I haven't seen much LotV,
but these are great to me.
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Hmm, he just Inca'd well that game Tasteless
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Elentos
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On February 19 2016 20:59 solidbebe wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 20:57 sAsImre wrote:On February 19 2016 20:55 solidbebe wrote:On February 19 2016 20:51 sAsImre wrote:On February 19 2016 20:50 solidbebe wrote:On February 19 2016 20:46 sAsImre wrote:On February 19 2016 20:45 solidbebe wrote:
Marauders need to get out of this game. It was actually an interesting game until dream just started massing maruaders. is this 2010 ? Sure looks like it. But since MMM criticism has been done to death, lets just leave it. so Terrans should make mass marines vs colossi/storm/disruptor? When dream was using tank marine medivac there was a lot of interesting positional micro going on imo. Between marine marauder medivac and marine tank medivac, which is more interesting to you? Purely from a viewers perspective. the latter cause it's not even close if the P gets enough aoe vs marine/tank. And I like close fights that don't rely on you having 2/2 vs 1/1 to lose it just slightly. which happened in the 1st engagement. If you can't see the beauty of Dream's bio control you should probably stick to roach vs roach. Well I guess we disagree then. To me MMM micro is just not interesting. Maybe with the tank damage buff tanks will be more viable against protoss, I hope so at least.
They will lose the pickup which means you can't push because you'll lose a tank to blink stalkers whenever you unsiege.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On February 19 2016 21:00 chambertin wrote:
I don't know how other people are evaluating these games... and I haven't seen much LotV,
but these are great to me.
Think everyone likes the games, it just this series is a bit low level from herO in two games which might frustrate his fans. But yes they are always fun in lotv. So much action!
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if the game had been even that fuckup by hero during the engagement in the middle of the map would have killed him. it's kind of cool to see the potential for protoss to just suddenly throw a fight like that in the lategame when normally in direct fights it would be terran who can always suddenly lose
not a terran OR protoss player, and not saying anything about balance, it's just cool to see both sides have potential strength in various parts of the game. i was always strongly against the blizzard party line of "oh, protoss is strong in the early and late game and terran is strong in the midgame and that's cool and unique", never made sense to me
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On February 19 2016 21:00 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 20:59 Elentos wrote:On February 19 2016 20:57 Heartland wrote:On February 19 2016 20:57 RvB wrote:On February 19 2016 20:56 Heartland wrote:
yeah so the new colossus are not so good If you attack in a concave like that yeah. yeah, but the marauders also hit them a lot easier than they did in the past. They can't hide in the back as they used to with the lower range The range nerf was reverted wasn't it? really?
yeah, herO was without the upgrade all the time.
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The bar with player names before that match has the worst yellow tone i have ever seen
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On February 19 2016 21:00 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 20:59 Elentos wrote:On February 19 2016 20:57 Heartland wrote:On February 19 2016 20:57 RvB wrote:On February 19 2016 20:56 Heartland wrote:
yeah so the new colossus are not so good If you attack in a concave like that yeah. yeah, but the marauders also hit them a lot easier than they did in the past. They can't hide in the back as they used to with the lower range The range nerf was reverted wasn't it? really?
Yes, it was reverted.
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On February 19 2016 21:01 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 21:00 chambertin wrote:
I don't know how other people are evaluating these games... and I haven't seen much LotV,
but these are great to me. Think everyone likes the games, it just this series is a bit low level from herO in two games which might frustrate his fans. But yes they are always fun in lotv. So much action!
Whole day has been horrible as a herO fan
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On February 19 2016 21:00 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 20:59 solidbebe wrote:On February 19 2016 20:57 sAsImre wrote:On February 19 2016 20:55 solidbebe wrote:On February 19 2016 20:51 sAsImre wrote:On February 19 2016 20:50 solidbebe wrote:On February 19 2016 20:46 sAsImre wrote:On February 19 2016 20:45 solidbebe wrote:
Marauders need to get out of this game. It was actually an interesting game until dream just started massing maruaders. is this 2010 ? Sure looks like it. But since MMM criticism has been done to death, lets just leave it. so Terrans should make mass marines vs colossi/storm/disruptor? When dream was using tank marine medivac there was a lot of interesting positional micro going on imo. Between marine marauder medivac and marine tank medivac, which is more interesting to you? Purely from a viewers perspective. the latter cause it's not even close if the P gets enough aoe vs marine/tank. And I like close fights that don't rely on you having 2/2 vs 1/1 to lose it just slightly. which happened in the 1st engagement. If you can't see the beauty of Dream's bio control you should probably stick to roach vs roach. Well I guess we disagree then. To me MMM micro is just not interesting. Maybe with the tank damage buff tanks will be more viable against protoss, I hope so at least. They will lose the pickup which means you can't push because you'll lose a tank to blink stalkers whenever you unsiege.
and at the moment the damage buff is probably too low to make tank pushes viable vP
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On February 19 2016 21:01 Sholip wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 21:00 Heartland wrote:On February 19 2016 20:59 Elentos wrote:On February 19 2016 20:57 Heartland wrote:On February 19 2016 20:57 RvB wrote:On February 19 2016 20:56 Heartland wrote:
yeah so the new colossus are not so good If you attack in a concave like that yeah. yeah, but the marauders also hit them a lot easier than they did in the past. They can't hide in the back as they used to with the lower range The range nerf was reverted wasn't it? really? Yes, it was reverted.
ah okay, I missed that. Thankies.
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On February 19 2016 21:00 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 20:59 solidbebe wrote:On February 19 2016 20:57 sAsImre wrote:On February 19 2016 20:55 solidbebe wrote:On February 19 2016 20:51 sAsImre wrote:On February 19 2016 20:50 solidbebe wrote:On February 19 2016 20:46 sAsImre wrote:On February 19 2016 20:45 solidbebe wrote:
Marauders need to get out of this game. It was actually an interesting game until dream just started massing maruaders. is this 2010 ? Sure looks like it. But since MMM criticism has been done to death, lets just leave it. so Terrans should make mass marines vs colossi/storm/disruptor? When dream was using tank marine medivac there was a lot of interesting positional micro going on imo. Between marine marauder medivac and marine tank medivac, which is more interesting to you? Purely from a viewers perspective. the latter cause it's not even close if the P gets enough aoe vs marine/tank. And I like close fights that don't rely on you having 2/2 vs 1/1 to lose it just slightly. which happened in the 1st engagement. If you can't see the beauty of Dream's bio control you should probably stick to roach vs roach. Well I guess we disagree then. To me MMM micro is just not interesting. Maybe with the tank damage buff tanks will be more viable against protoss, I hope so at least. They will lose the pickup which means you can't push because you'll lose a tank to blink stalkers whenever you unsiege.
You're right. It might be going against everything a tank should be, but I'm not actually sure removing the flying sieged tanks is a good thing. Like I said, it does lead to interesting micro a la warcraft 3 in my opinion.
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On February 19 2016 21:01 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2016 21:00 chambertin wrote:
I don't know how other people are evaluating these games... and I haven't seen much LotV,
but these are great to me. Think everyone likes the games, it just this series is a bit low level from herO in two games which might frustrate his fans. But yes they are always fun in lotv. So much action!
gotcha!
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