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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8982 Posts
February 17 2016 11:47 GMT
#661
Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 2

Meh Game (6)
 
46%

Good Game (3)
 
23%

Excellent Game (2)
 
15%

Bad Game (2)
 
15%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 2

(Vote): Excellent Game
(Vote): Good Game
(Vote): Meh Game
(Vote): Bad Game

seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
February 17 2016 11:47 GMT
#662
On February 17 2016 20:46 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
terrans need a viking on patrol again or something that's so ridiculous.

TY build a bunker each base just like hellbat's era.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
February 17 2016 11:48 GMT
#663
On February 17 2016 20:46 Silvana wrote:
So for Terrans, is it always worth to spend a scan to kill and observer? I mean money wise.


Well, isn't it never good economically? 225 minerals for a mule vs 25/75 for the obs (but how do you compare gas to minerals?). But making Protoss blind is really strong.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8982 Posts
February 17 2016 11:48 GMT
#664
Found a little passion in the gas tank. Last game. Promise...
Shankapotamus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States428 Posts
February 17 2016 11:48 GMT
#665
Honestly, Tasteless put it really well. Randomly timed DT drops or mid game DTs are really really good. Unless the Terran is super on point on defense all over the place, which we don't even see from the highest level, they will for sure do damage. Having DTs in the mid game are also super good against drops, so Protosses feeling like they are forced into going phoenix have other options besides that.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
February 17 2016 11:49 GMT
#666
On February 17 2016 20:48 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 20:46 Silvana wrote:
So for Terrans, is it always worth to spend a scan to kill and observer? I mean money wise.


Well, isn't it never good economically? 225 minerals for a mule vs 25/75 for the obs (but how do you compare gas to minerals?). But making Protoss blind is really strong.

That's a wrong comparison. By killing an observer you are sure Protoss isn't building any other unit from robo.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
February 17 2016 11:49 GMT
#667
This map looks really good for proxy oracles tbh
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
February 17 2016 11:49 GMT
#668
On February 17 2016 20:48 Shankapotamus wrote:
Honestly, Tasteless put it really well. Randomly timed DT drops or mid game DTs are really really good. Unless the Terran is super on point on defense all over the place, which we don't even see from the highest level, they will for sure do damage. Having DTs in the mid game are also super good against drops, so Protosses feeling like they are forced into going phoenix have other options besides that.


Phoenixes accomplish totally different things than what the DTs do though
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
February 17 2016 11:49 GMT
#669
On February 17 2016 20:48 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 20:46 Silvana wrote:
So for Terrans, is it always worth to spend a scan to kill and observer? I mean money wise.


Well, isn't it never good economically? 225 minerals for a mule vs 25/75 for the obs (but how do you compare gas to minerals?). But making Protoss blind is really strong.


In a normal situation and kinda even game I'd say always worth. But if you are way behind in workers and you don't plan to be out in the map, isn't it better to spend the energy on a mule instead of denying vision?
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
February 17 2016 11:50 GMT
#670
On February 17 2016 20:47 seemsgood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 20:46 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
terrans need a viking on patrol again or something that's so ridiculous.

TY build a bunker each base just like hellbat's era.

i wish we saw hellions and hellbats in TvP again (not like that tho)
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28475 Posts
February 17 2016 11:51 GMT
#671
On February 17 2016 20:49 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 20:48 Heartland wrote:
On February 17 2016 20:46 Silvana wrote:
So for Terrans, is it always worth to spend a scan to kill and observer? I mean money wise.


Well, isn't it never good economically? 225 minerals for a mule vs 25/75 for the obs (but how do you compare gas to minerals?). But making Protoss blind is really strong.

That's a wrong comparison. By killing an observer you are sure Protoss isn't building any other unit from robo.

It's not wrong, it's incomplete
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
February 17 2016 11:51 GMT
#672
On February 17 2016 20:49 Silvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 20:48 Heartland wrote:
On February 17 2016 20:46 Silvana wrote:
So for Terrans, is it always worth to spend a scan to kill and observer? I mean money wise.


Well, isn't it never good economically? 225 minerals for a mule vs 25/75 for the obs (but how do you compare gas to minerals?). But making Protoss blind is really strong.


In a normal situation and kinda even game I'd say always worth. But if you are way behind in workers and you don't plan to be out in the map, isn't it better to spend the energy on a mule instead of denying vision?


I'm just saying if you're -only- thinking of the eco side it's -never- worth it. The rest of the discussion, that is, energy vs blinding protoss, keeping their robo occupied with building obs rather than other stuff etc is a different argument.
arioch
Profile Joined May 2010
England403 Posts
February 17 2016 11:51 GMT
#673
I really love how Zests DT build and his Blink Timing look exactly the same from a scouting POV until the dark shrine goes down...

Really smart considering they need completely different reactions.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-17 11:51:55
February 17 2016 11:51 GMT
#674
On February 17 2016 20:48 Shankapotamus wrote:
Honestly, Tasteless put it really well. Randomly timed DT drops or mid game DTs are really really good. Unless the Terran is super on point on defense all over the place, which we don't even see from the highest level, they will for sure do damage. Having DTs in the mid game are also super good against drops, so Protosses feeling like they are forced into going phoenix have other options besides that.

This wasn't random. Journey lost plenty of SCVs so there's an assumption he will throw every energy into MULEs making DTs much stronger.

On February 17 2016 20:51 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 20:49 deacon.frost wrote:
On February 17 2016 20:48 Heartland wrote:
On February 17 2016 20:46 Silvana wrote:
So for Terrans, is it always worth to spend a scan to kill and observer? I mean money wise.


Well, isn't it never good economically? 225 minerals for a mule vs 25/75 for the obs (but how do you compare gas to minerals?). But making Protoss blind is really strong.

That's a wrong comparison. By killing an observer you are sure Protoss isn't building any other unit from robo.

It's not wrong, it's incomplete


Yeah, my bad. Your word is better.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-17 11:52:33
February 17 2016 11:52 GMT
#675
Reallllllllllyyyyyyy well dealt with by Journey

Edit: until that, lol
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
February 17 2016 11:52 GMT
#676
but.. but.. how did the unkillable DT/Prism combo not auto win? I don't understand
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28475 Posts
February 17 2016 11:52 GMT
#677
Wow so much Inca
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
February 17 2016 11:52 GMT
#678
dt build ftw
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12840 Posts
February 17 2016 11:52 GMT
#679
On February 17 2016 20:48 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 20:46 Silvana wrote:
So for Terrans, is it always worth to spend a scan to kill and observer? I mean money wise.


Well, isn't it never good economically? 225 minerals for a mule vs 25/75 for the obs (but how do you compare gas to minerals?). But making Protoss blind is really strong.

I feel like with bases mining out faster, scans and supply are often better than mules
WriterMaru
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
February 17 2016 11:53 GMT
#680
On February 17 2016 20:50 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 20:47 seemsgood wrote:
On February 17 2016 20:46 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
terrans need a viking on patrol again or something that's so ridiculous.

TY build a bunker each base just like hellbat's era.

i wish we saw hellions and hellbats in TvP again (not like that tho)

Remove its light tag and increase baneling's damage should do the trick.
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