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Aeromi
France14460 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/w2gGmo1.png) http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_WCS_Winter_Regional_Challengers/Europe WHERE TO WATCH  ESL_sc2 | SC2Improve |  O'GamingTV |  TaKeTVWHEN TO WATCH Day 1 : 13 February 2016 17:00 CET Day 2: 14 February 2016 17:00 CET PLAYERS  Nerchio -  Happy -  ShoWTimE - Lilbow - PtitDrogo - Bly - MaNa - Elazer - Dayshi - Harstem - Snute - MarineLorD - Lambo - Serral - SortOf - Zanster.PLAYOFFS ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/RnAjyCT.png) | ||
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Aeromi
France14460 Posts
Top 16  Showtime has 948 points Lilbow has 920 points Zanster has 875 points Minato has 869 points Bly has 828 points Happy has 821 points DIMAGA has 814 points Strange has 801 points Tefel has 781 points Revolver has 768 points FireCake has 767 points NightEnDhas 751 points Harstem has 750 points Nerchiohas 735 points souL has 729 points TLO has 728 points Top 17-25 Barcode has 728 points Clem has 726 points DaNa has 725 points MarineLorD has 724 points Basior has 714 points Barcode has 692 points DnS has 681 points MaNa has 689 points PtitDrogo has 681 points | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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Aeromi
France14460 Posts
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Rehio
United States1718 Posts
Then barcodes happened. I'm so glad they're gone. It's damn fun just to watch the standings. :D | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
Thanks for the thread, great idea! | ||
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Hoofit
United Kingdom128 Posts
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
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Deathstar
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Philozovic
France1677 Posts
On February 09 2016 04:39 Rehio wrote: This is what Blizzard was trying to do with Grandmaster league when they first released Wings, make it something cool to watch and monitor so you could see how well your favorite players were doing. Then barcodes happened. I'm so glad they're gone. It's damn fun just to watch the standings. :D Barcodes were there before GrandMaster league. Can everyone participate ? Or just the the one who did not qualified for WCS yet ? | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On February 09 2016 05:00 Philozovic wrote: Barcodes were there before GrandMaster league. Can everyone participate ? Or just the the one who did not qualified for WCS yet ? Everyone, even if already qualified they can play for money. | ||
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Philozovic
France1677 Posts
On February 09 2016 05:02 Musicus wrote: Everyone, even if already qualified they can play for money. Okay so drogo needs to farm the ladder like a madman ! | ||
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HsDLTitich
Italy830 Posts
On February 09 2016 05:02 Musicus wrote: Everyone, even if already qualified they can play for money. And WCS points. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
Really? Where did you read that? Edit: Ah I can see it on LP, wasn't in the ESL announcement so I didn't know. That's sick  . I guess they just announced that every regional challenger gives out 500 WCS points, but did not put it into the ESL announcement.I really hope they will give out money and WCS points every month in the future. | ||
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DTDstarcraft
Netherlands164 Posts
Saves you a lot of work Aeromi =) | ||
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Rehio
United States1718 Posts
On February 09 2016 07:01 DTDstarcraft wrote: Wouldnt it be a lot easier to just look at this for realtime updated info: http://nios.kr/sc2/eu/1v1/lotv/ Saves you a lot of work Aeromi =) I don't know, I kinda like the whole community aspect of tracking it and cheerin' folks on rather than just a more "quiet" checking of a website. Aeromi needs somethin' to do now that the rulebook has been released, anyway. :D (At least, I thought it was. It better have been. Holy shit, if it hasn't. D: ) | ||
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Aeromi
France14460 Posts
Top 16 Minato has 1084 points ShoWTimE has 1010 points Zanster has 960 points Lilbow has 920 points Barcode has 918 points DaNa has 901 points Barcode has 883 points Bly has 863 points PtitDrogo has 861 points DIMAGA has 846 points Strangers has 827 points Happy has 821 points Barcode has 819 points Elazer has 805 points NighEnD has 800 points souL has 792 points Top 17-25 Harstem has 782 points Tefel has 781 points Tom has 773 points frozz has 771 points Revolver has 769 points FireCake has 767 points DnS has 766 points MarineLorD has 754 points Elroye has 753 points | ||
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
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BlyOnFire
Ukraine74 Posts
On February 09 2016 16:13 Nerchio wrote: This bonus pool abuse is hilarous :D Ur not on top of ladder anymore, Deal with it bro <3 | ||
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Dingodile
4133 Posts
On February 09 2016 04:39 Rehio wrote: This is what Blizzard was trying to do with Grandmaster league when they first released Wings, make it something cool to watch and monitor so you could see how well your favorite players were doing. Then barcodes happened. I'm so glad they're gone. It's damn fun just to watch the standings. :D They happened because the accounts are revealing too much informations in history like Build order, game length etc. Not because they are in GM. | ||
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
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Haukinger
Germany131 Posts
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Dingodile
4133 Posts
On February 09 2016 20:02 Haukinger wrote: Would you care to elaborate a bit on this? What exactly is the problem? Or the other way round - why should build orders remain secret? If you see the history of your next opponent (Zerg) that he did hatch first 12 of 15 times, don't you feel "automatically" better prepared against him? Or either way round, player1 played 20 different build orders in last 20 games in order to confuse other player by looking his history, do you think player1 played reasonable/properly? I am talking from a progamer view. | ||
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Haukinger
Germany131 Posts
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Aeromi
France14460 Posts
Top 16 ShoWTimE 1112 pointsMinato 1084 pointsNerchio 1009 pointsLilbow 996 pointsBly 970 pointsZanster 960 points Barcode(rumor says it's Scarlett) 940 pointsDIMAGA 909 pointsDaNa 901 points Barcode 883 pointsStrange 878 pointsTefel 866 pointsPtitDrogo 861 pointsHarstem 853 pointsRevolver 836 pointsBasior 828 points | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
Can't wait for the ladder revamp, then this ladder competition will be even better . | ||
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Sif_
Brazil3106 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On February 09 2016 21:46 Sif_ wrote: Can these barcodes use their name change like 10min before the deadline? I'm not sure why pros haven't thought of that to be honest... I'm sure they'd (their teams?) rather spend 40bucks per WCS than playing on their main account like that Nope, they can not. On February 09 2016 00:10 Musicus wrote: They made a few updates to their post 3 days ago. The most imortant one: "Player's account names have to be recognizable (no 'barcode' or otherwise unknown alias) once Grandmaster League opens. Any later namechanges will render that account ineligible for the respective top 16 final" http://www.eslgaming.com/article/2016-wcs-challenger-coming-ladder-euna-2533 Seems to be working out really well so far. I'm just sad that it ends so soon. | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
Ranking at Tuesday 5.30 AM CET (Ranking at Monday 8.30 PM CET) Top 16 1) Minato has 1084 points (4)2) ShoWTimE has 1010 points (1)3) Zanster has 960 points (3)4) Lilbow has 920 points (2)5) Barcode has 918 points --6) DaNa has 901 points (16+)7) Barcode has 883 points --8) Bly has 863 points (5)9) PtitDrogo has 861 points (16+) 10) DIMAGA has 846 points (7)11) Strangers has 827 points (16+)12) Happy has 821 points (6)13) Barcode has 819 points -- 14) Elazer has 805 points (16+)15) NighEnD has 800 points (12)16) souL has 792 points (15) | ||
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Sif_
Brazil3106 Posts
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Rehio
United States1718 Posts
On February 09 2016 17:46 Dingodile wrote: They happened because the accounts are revealing too much informations in history like Build order, game length etc. Not because they are in GM. I don't think I implied that Grandmaster league caused barcodes. I was just saying that barcodes hurt Blizzard's attempt to make GM a fun thing to watch. | ||
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
And i really doubt that grandmaster people give a crap about bonus pool in general so might as well remove it for them. | ||
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AlgeriaT
Sweden2197 Posts
So all barcodes that make it to top 16 by feb 12th are disqualified? | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On February 10 2016 00:53 AlgeriaT wrote: So all barcodes that make it to top 16 by feb 12th are disqualified? Yes. But I think any barcode is either a smurf or NA player (like Scarlett) anyway. | ||
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Aeromi
France14460 Posts
Top 16 ShoWTimE 1208 pointsLilbow 1126 pointsMinato 1093 pointsHappy has 1088 pointsSoul has 1035 pointsZanster 1033 pointsNerchio has 1030 pointsBly has 1008 points Barcode 995 pointsPtitDrogo has 985 pointsFireCake has 978 pointsBasior has 975 pointsTefel has 963 pointsStrange has 960 pointsHarstem has 957 pointsDaNa has 953points | ||
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Quakie
Norway725 Posts
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Kaizor
Singapore909 Posts
Not surprised. lol | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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miniskirt
France487 Posts
seems weird that already qualified player are allowed in the qualifier  there will be drama | ||
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HolydaKing
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On February 10 2016 02:26 Kaizor wrote: I came in expecting to see Happy among the top few in ladder. Not surprised. lol Rofl, indeed. He's such a ladder beast and that since forever. Been hardcore laddering at WC3 too IIRC, and he was doing kinda well back then too I think. | ||
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Philozovic
France1677 Posts
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Poopi
France12877 Posts
The protoss are hiding to avoid losing ladder points, good strat, good strat. | ||
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bduddy
United States1326 Posts
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ivancype
Brazil485 Posts
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On February 11 2016 23:20 ivancype wrote: So... who is this guy Mencemeat? Another ID for the list | ||
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Poopi
France12877 Posts
It's sad that there are no new faces tho. The llllll with 70% winrate three weeks ago was LucifroN wasn't he? And VortiX the llll zerg with similar winratr. | ||
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
should be, this 12:00am thing is confusing. | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
eu > na  | ||
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Aeromi
France14460 Posts
On February 12 2016 01:14 y0su wrote: 24h clock so much less confusing eu > na Haha yes! | ||
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Darkened2
Germany20 Posts
edit: in current Top16 are only 5 players which are not already qualified: Bly, PtitDrogo, Strange, Dayshi and Tefel | ||
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Sif_
Brazil3106 Posts
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imre
France9263 Posts
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Darkened2
Germany20 Posts
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SNSeigifried
United States1640 Posts
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On February 12 2016 05:01 Darkened2 wrote: Ok, then there are currently Bly, PtitDrogo, Dayshi and Zanster in for two spots If that's the case, I'm not sure that's what Blizzard had in mind. | ||
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SNSeigifried
United States1640 Posts
On February 12 2016 05:48 Boucot wrote: If that's the case, I'm not sure that's what Blizzard had in mind. Blizzard should of done regional challengers 1st before any invites and qualifiers to make this more hyped and interesting | ||
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
On February 12 2016 05:50 SNSeigifried wrote: Blizzard should of done regional challengers 1st before any invites and qualifiers to make this more hyped and interesting I am hyped | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On February 12 2016 05:50 SNSeigifried wrote: Blizzard should of done regional challengers 1st before any invites and qualifiers to make this more hyped and interesting Yes, obviously. Add this to the fact that the Challenger winners earn money and the previous qualified players don't, that's pretty weird. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On February 12 2016 05:50 SNSeigifried wrote: Blizzard should of done regional challengers 1st before any invites and qualifiers to make this more hyped and interesting That's what they will do in the future, but it didn't work out this time. | ||
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SNSeigifried
United States1640 Posts
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Sif_
Brazil3106 Posts
2 hours left edit: actually demuslim just queued into him on stream right now, seems like he's still going for it on nios you can see that only like 6~7 people out of the top100 aren't playing RIGHT NOW (last game within the hour) nerchio, drogo and uthermal on demu's chat...this ladder thing is the best thing to ever happen for sc2...should've been this way since the beggining! | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On February 12 2016 06:01 SNSeigifried wrote: So is the competition over is this the top 16?? Still 1h45m to go. | ||
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IceBerrY
Germany220 Posts
Rank 1, gratz mate. Pretty close right now, everything so damn close about rank 13+ right now, will be interesting to see the next 2 hours. | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On February 12 2016 06:01 Sif_ wrote: uthermal said he was gonna grind for top16 but it doesnt seem like he is...and he's not qualified yet 2 hours left edit: actually demuslim just queued into him on stream right now, seems like he's still going for it on nios you can see that only like 6~7 people out of the top100 aren't playing RIGHT NOW (last game within the hour) nerchio, drogo and uthermal on demu's chat...this ladder thing is the best thing to ever happen for sc2...should've been this way since the beggining! TB ahead of the curve again when he did shoutcraft america. was pretty exciting when he did the ladder qualifier there too | ||
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IceBerrY
Germany220 Posts
losing points. Really exciting, i agree, blizzard should do more of this stuff, to bad it lasted just for a few days and is over tonight... | ||
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Poopi
France12877 Posts
On February 12 2016 06:24 IceBerrY wrote: There is also some tactics involved, like waiting for the right queue time, or like Bly stop laddering on his main to avoid losing points. Really exciting, i agree, blizzard should do more of this stuff, to bad it lasted just for a few days and is over tonight... The amazing (well maybe not for the players) is that they don't grind points vs people not competing, they HAVE to beat their direct opponents to get their points .I don't think there has been too much system abuse so this is like a competition before the qualifier to a competition. | ||
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SNSeigifried
United States1640 Posts
Top 16 Nerchio 1401Happy 1367ShoWTimE 1344Lilbow 1323Bly 1302MajOr 1289PtitDrogo 1288MaNa 1275Elazer 1270Snute 1266Dayshi 1258Harstem 1256MarineLorD 1254SortOf 1245Lambo 1236Zanster 122217-25 Serral 1216TLO 1216Tefel 1216souL 1198Basior 1156FireCake 1135Welmu 1132Guru 1129Rail 1120That 3 way tie for the last seed :D!!! | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
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imre
France9263 Posts
On February 12 2016 07:18 Nerchio wrote: I wonder how many people will get caught for some kind of match throwing, I think I can already see some examples xd there is quite a bit of it going on interesting to see how blizz will react | ||
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
On February 12 2016 07:20 sAsImre wrote: there is quite a bit of it going on interesting to see how blizz will react I think nobody will get caught but that's just my guess | ||
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SNSeigifried
United States1640 Posts
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Aeromi
France14460 Posts
On February 12 2016 07:22 Nerchio wrote: I think nobody will get caught but that's just my guess :') | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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Poopi
France12877 Posts
On February 12 2016 07:22 Nerchio wrote: I think nobody will get caught but that's just my guess Yeah that's how life usually works oops edit: who threw? mp or public o/ | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
TLO's out boys. Getting close | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On February 12 2016 07:22 Nerchio wrote: I think nobody will get caught but that's just my guess not too risky. They should get some ppl not qualified for the example imo. | ||
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Poopi
France12877 Posts
edit: back to the caster desk I guess, Lilbow was right from the start?? | ||
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IceBerrY
Germany220 Posts
On February 12 2016 07:42 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: https://twitter.com/LiquidTLO/status/697913573096431616 TLO's out boys. Getting close Yeah to bad, i saw how he dropped ranks slowly but surely. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
Uthermal climbed from 26 to 22 now. But only 5 minutes left | ||
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SNSeigifried
United States1640 Posts
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IceBerrY
Germany220 Posts
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SmykuToronto
Poland269 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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HelpMeGetBetter
United States764 Posts
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12172 Posts
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ArtyK
France3143 Posts
On February 12 2016 08:23 Nebuchad wrote: Ptitdrogo, Bly, Dayshi and Marinelord were the 4 who weren't qualified yet. I'm not certain how it works but I haven't followed it closely Nah Marinelord was already qualified : http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_WCS_Winter_Circuit_Championship Zanster is the 4th i believe | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12172 Posts
On February 12 2016 08:25 ArtyK wrote: Nah Marinelord was already qualified : http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_WCS_Winter_Circuit_Championship Zanster is the 4th i believe You're correct, I missed Marinelord's name on the page and I still had the list with Major instead of Zanster. | ||
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Kafka777
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argonautdice
Canada2719 Posts
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On February 12 2016 08:27 Kafka777 wrote: Bly apparently threw some games at the end. This is absolutely disgusting in the context of the competition. Some players received undeserved points. Such manipulation is more or less equal to match fixing and it ruined the sense of this competition. Yeah his last four games he left right in the first second and the fifth last he left at 1.48. Edit. And Drogo had a 40sec game with 2apm also fyi. | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
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Circumstance
United States11403 Posts
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imre
France9263 Posts
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SNSeigifried
United States1640 Posts
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Kafka777
361 Posts
honestly if that's the unique drama it can be considered as a huge success. The amount of win trading didn't look too high and the little seed manipulation at the end just highlights the importance of having rules for a tournament. Oh, but there are rules against it everywhere. Non-sport attitude is generally prohibited in competitions. In this case Bly gave out about 100 ranking points. While the next 3 contenders required less than 20 to qualify. Therefore he disrupted the game results dishonestly. | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On February 12 2016 08:57 Kafka777 wrote: Oh, but there are rules against it everywhere. Non-sport attitude is generally prohibited in competitions. In this case Bly gave out about 100 ranking points. While the next 3 contenders required less than 20 to qualify. Therefore he disrupted the game results dishonestly. don't focus on bly he wasn't the only one doing stupid stuff. And there isn't any precise rule for this right now, the handbook isn't there and the guidelines don't cover the Challenger | ||
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Kafka777
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ossavi09
Germany441 Posts
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earendillo123
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SNSeigifried
United States1640 Posts
On February 12 2016 09:20 earendillo123 wrote: Why 1st and 2nd from ladder are on the same side of the bracket, shouldn't they be seeded on opposite postitions, to meet in the final? Fixed!!! http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_WCS_Winter_Regional_Challengers/Europe#Winners.27_Bracket | ||
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Sif_
Brazil3106 Posts
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Rehio
United States1718 Posts
You know, so we could definitively say whether someone's breaking the rules or not. What a world that would be. | ||
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DonDomingo
504 Posts
On February 12 2016 09:05 Kafka777 wrote: I dont think there are rules about machfixing in the handbook - that does not mean its allowed wherever. "Match-fixing" | ||
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My_Fake_Plastic_Luv
United States257 Posts
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Aelendis
Belgium892 Posts
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Poopi
France12877 Posts
On February 12 2016 13:01 My_Fake_Plastic_Luv wrote: That is so dumb that players would even think about losing on purpose! Soooo stupid. I just expect them to be smarter... I mean at least what Yoda, B4 (and Life maybe) cheated for some sort of monetary comp. UGGGG. If you have a better seed you have more chances of gaining more money so it's not stupid, just unfair because you can allow players to sneak in the top 16 with freewins but apparently it did not happen. | ||
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freeamount
China202 Posts
Bly the lucky guy who sits in the bottom half of the bracket alone! | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On February 13 2016 22:03 freeamount wrote: So basically it is Ptitdrogo, Dayshi, Bly, Lambo and Zanster that are fighting for 2 spots. Bly the lucky guy who sits in the bottom half of the bracket alone! Lambo is already qualified! | ||
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freeamount
China202 Posts
oh, didn't notice this, thx | ||
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Aeromi
France14460 Posts
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Niko_Thien
Germany2671 Posts
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
Serral vs Showtime | ||
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Aeromi
France14460 Posts
On February 14 2016 01:05 Niko_Thien wrote: No official stream for challenger? Twitch.tv/esl_sc2, should starts soon. | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
Dayshi/Elazer http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/ESL.tv PL | ||
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stardog
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
GG ESL waiting for the Olimoleague to finish | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On February 14 2016 01:16 Boucot wrote: Does someone know which rounds are being played today ? ESL Bracket says WB Ro16-Ro4, LB Round 1-3 | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On February 14 2016 01:12 Noonius wrote: GG ESL waiting for the Olimoleague to finish Olimoleague > WCS | ||
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OsaX Nymloth
Poland3244 Posts
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On February 14 2016 01:17 Inflicted wrote: ESL Bracket says WB Ro16-Ro4, LB Round 1-3 OK, thank you ! | ||
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United States127 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On February 14 2016 01:27 jcairne wrote: PtitDrogo, Dayshi, Zanster and Bly are the only ones not already qualified for the season finals right? Yes | ||
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Heartland
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On February 14 2016 01:31 Shellshock wrote: Serral looks like he's having a pretty easy time Mindgamed in the first game and now nothing makes sense anymore. | ||
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Heartland
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Aeromi
France14460 Posts
On February 14 2016 01:36 Heartland wrote: Drogo's build makes like no sense GunGFuBanDa does the same build, it's pretty strong as a mindgame. | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
On February 14 2016 01:37 Aeromi wrote: GunGFuBanDa does the same build, it's pretty strong as a mindgame.seems like a huge roll of the dice. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
Woah. | ||
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rotta
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Ej_
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
lol | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
he was wrong | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
Nerchio 3-1 Zanster | ||
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Ej_
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Paljas
Germany6926 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
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IceBerrY
Germany220 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On February 14 2016 01:47 Heartland wrote: nice t-shirt, apollo must be a big Faker fan | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On February 14 2016 01:47 Heartland wrote: nice t-shirt, apollo Innovation, I mean SKT, bias confirmed | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
On February 14 2016 01:47 Paljas wrote: drogo played pretty awful I think he play pretty well until he lost all those high templar. | ||
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Fig
United States1324 Posts
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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[PkF] Wire
France24202 Posts
On February 14 2016 01:48 royalroadweed wrote: I think he play pretty well until he lost all those high templar. I agree, losing all the storms was the point of no return but before that he'd been doing a pretty good job. | ||
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OsaX Nymloth
Poland3244 Posts
On February 14 2016 01:47 IceBerrY wrote: This was really well played, sick Ghost controll. :o This bugs me, it's not like it's hard to control Ghosts. Way harder to keep your HT separated and not clumped or too far away from you main army~~ | ||
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Dingodile
4133 Posts
On February 14 2016 01:48 royalroadweed wrote: I think he play pretty well until he lost all those high templar. I dont like that foreplay ghost vs ht decide the 200/200 fights. | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
Mana up 2-1 | ||
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Sif_
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Heartland
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On February 14 2016 02:01 Sif_ wrote: drogo goes on like 1min+ periods of time where he isnt macroing AT ALL, lol You can leave French PvZ, but French PvZ won't leave you | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On February 14 2016 01:45 Ej_ wrote: Elazer decided that Seras on cross was decent enough to play LBM he was wrong I'm pretty sure that's not the first time he's ever gone for that composition on that map... | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On February 14 2016 02:01 Sif_ wrote: drogo goes on like 1min+ periods of time where he isnt macroing AT ALL, lol Rubs me the wrong way also. | ||
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On February 14 2016 02:05 Ej_ wrote: Elazer goes for 3 pronged harass and then doesn't macro behind it, truly WCS not everyone can be nerchio | ||
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On February 14 2016 02:07 Nebuchad wrote: He's obviously going stargate, come on. can you not 1 base proxy robo vs Terran in LotV? | ||
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On February 14 2016 02:08 Ej_ wrote: can you not 1 base proxy robo vs Terran in LotV? I don't know but they were going crazy with how the depot killed Drogo's build cause adepts can't kill a depot when Drogo's build was clearly a stargate | ||
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On February 14 2016 02:02 Noonius wrote: I really do not like protoss I really do hate terran. | ||
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Happy 3-1 SortOf | ||
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On February 14 2016 02:10 Ej_ wrote: ROTTI BUILD State build* | ||
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On February 14 2016 02:11 Aeromi wrote: Elazer vs Dayshi is really great. how is this game still so even edit: I think Elazer is done with this many ghosts though | ||
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On February 14 2016 02:11 Ej_ wrote: double SG tempest on 2 bases, rubs me the same way 2 base arbiter would PvT really feels like BW nowadays vikings ruin any kind of fun like that | ||
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On February 14 2016 02:13 geokilla wrote: This game... This map is awful lol you mean amazing | ||
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On February 14 2016 02:16 Inflicted wrote: So Dayshi only one of 4 still in winners not for long | ||
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On February 14 2016 02:16 Ej_ wrote: rip drogo, 2015-2016 rather rip whole protoss race~~ | ||
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If all three of them lose then they'll have to do tiebreakers to find who advances with Dayshi. | ||
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On February 14 2016 02:21 Solar424 wrote: If two of Bly, Zanster, and Drogo lose than the winner and Dayshi advance to IEM. If all three of them lose then they'll have to do tiebreakers to find who advances with Dayshi. Oh wait, Zanster hasn't qualified not lambo >_> | ||
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On February 14 2016 02:23 Gubbernecco wrote: So does anyone know what happens if Bly, Drogo and Zanster lose in the first round of the lower bracket? Chaos. | ||
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On February 14 2016 02:23 Gubbernecco wrote: So does anyone know what happens if Bly, Drogo and Zanster lose in the first round of the lower bracket? ESL recalls ForGG | ||
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On February 14 2016 02:23 Gubbernecco wrote: So does anyone know what happens if Bly, Drogo and Zanster lose in the first round of the lower bracket? no one knows because no one seems to have thought this through I say whatever the final results are, there will be seemingly arbitrary decisions made quickly followed by drama I believe this tourney should have been restricted to players not already qualified (because it's utopic to believe blizzard could make out fair rules, let alone release them in time in the open) | ||
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On February 14 2016 02:30 miniskirt wrote: no one knows because no one seems to have thought this through I say whatever the final results are, there will be seemingly arbitrary decisions made quickly followed by drama I believe this tourney should have been restricted to players not already qualified (because it's utopic to believe blizzard could make out fair rules, let alone release them in time in the open) You cant punish the qualified players because there are money and wcs points on the line in challenger. Challenger should be before the open qualifier, it is an easy fix and all that problems are gone | ||
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On February 14 2016 02:35 Gubbernecco wrote: You cant punish the qualified players because there are money and wcs points on the line in challenger. Challenger should be before the open qualifier, it is an easy fix and all that problems are gone easy, certainly, but still too hard for blizzard | ||
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On February 14 2016 02:36 miniskirt wrote: easy, certainly, but still too hard for blizzard Don't blame Blizzard on this, it's either that and you have WCS Championship or nothing. | ||
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On February 14 2016 02:56 Ej_ wrote: Kaelaris looks pretty handsome with this haircut. he looked better in long hair | ||
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I don't agree. | ||
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you also like Zerg. We're like polar opposites. | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:06 Shellshock wrote: Nerchio outclassing it's not difficult when you're ahead | ||
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or when you're the most skilled starcraft player of all time | ||
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it's not difficult when you're a god | ||
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do we really have to post THAT pic of him? | ||
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there has only been one god playing today and that happened in Olimoleague | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:05 royalroadweed wrote: Millenium's getting rekt today. 3/4 won their first round. | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:09 Shellshock wrote: the comeback is real never doubt a terran, especially on EU | ||
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I dont think I doubt anyone more than EU terrans. maybe NA terrans | ||
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if this was Zerg making an 80 supply comeback, we'd have 4 more pages in this thread | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:11 Ej_ wrote: if this was Zerg making an 80 supply comeback, we'd have 4 more pages in this thread all praise, I'm sure | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:11 Inflicted wrote: https://twitter.com/mYiPtitDrogo/status/698570083224961024 I haven't seen a player fall off this much after making a finals since top. And top got crushed while drogo won. | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:12 royalroadweed wrote: I haven't seen a player fall off this much after making a finals since top. Inca, Seed, Sting, Sniper... | ||
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Elazer 3-1 Zanster so Dayshi is through | ||
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Sound | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:12 royalroadweed wrote: I haven't seen a player fall off this much after making a finals since top. And top got crushed while drogo won. What if bly loses? | ||
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Against two Zergs, he'd probably lose tiebreakers anyway | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:14 Ej_ wrote: this game 3 is painfuly foreign not all terrans are TY/Dream/Polt level | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:12 royalroadweed wrote: I haven't seen a player fall off this much after making a finals since top. And top got crushed while drogo won. lol u serious ? its so common. also on a psychological standpoint its pretty understandable. | ||
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He apparently won a tournament and a cool 125 dollars today so it's not even close. | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:17 shid0x wrote: lol u serious ? its so common. also on a psychological standpoint its pretty understandable. psycho what, are we trying to account bad performances to anything more than Foreigners Still Suck? | ||
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Want to punch my screen just from looking at that. | ||
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better than the rest, he's in Code S after all | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:18 OsaX Nymloth wrote: Terran, ghosts, liberators... yuck. Want to punch my screen just from looking at that. don't forget the nukes | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:19 royalroadweed wrote: lol no gg. That nuke must have hurt. he ragequitted both his losses | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:19 Boucot wrote: DAYCHAUD ! careful now to become Daychauvin | ||
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Weirdly enough, don't mind nukes too much. Everything else terran tho... Godchio pls | ||
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edit: apparently "good luck" or something in French ? | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:24 Hurricaned wrote: the terran hype is real Lets not get ahead of our selves. Its foreign terrans we're taking about here. They might do well but they're not winning the main tournament. | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:24 Yiome wrote: what did lilbow type before quit? edit: apparently "good luck" or something in French ? It was probably some SC3 jargon we don't understand yet. | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:26 Nakajin wrote: It was probably some SC3 jargon we don't understand yet. Hilarious. :> | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:24 Yiome wrote: what did lilbow type before quit? edit: apparently "good luck" or something in French ? That would surprise me greatly. | ||
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Someone in twitch chat said so. | ||
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Bonne chance? | ||
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I couldn't read but it was longer than that. And I doubt that's what Lilbow would say after getting terraned these days. | ||
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so 3 rax proxy or not? | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:32 Mozdk wrote: My Protoss tears are all gone. I'm empty. there's still LB | ||
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MaNa vs Zerg is not going to end well for Protoss | ||
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Definitely been a sad week for protoss but we will survive!!! Also that 2-5 proleague is vs z :D!!! | ||
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SortOf 3-1 Harstem | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:37 Inflicted wrote: SortOf 3-1 Harstemwhat the hell, how? | ||
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year of BL/Infestor | ||
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I knew Rain was right | ||
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He's sortof good... | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:34 SNSeigifried wrote: https://twitter.com/Seigifried/status/698574458081165313 Definitely been a sad week for protoss but we will survive!!! Also that 2-5 proleague is vs z :D!!! protoss finally starting to comprehend what it was like for terran in host | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:39 Noonius wrote: protoss finally starting to comprehend what it was like for terran in host Wasn't that bad for terran in PL tbh. We had Maru wrecking everybody. | ||
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He's really really not. | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:41 Heartland wrote: terrible fight by Dayshi he knew he was on a clock now he knows the time is up | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:40 royalroadweed wrote: Wasn't that bad for terran in PL tbh. We had Maru wrecking everybody. who? | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:41 Heartland wrote: terrible fight by Dayshi Terribly strange choices. | ||
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MaruThermal | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:39 Noonius wrote: protoss finally starting to comprehend what it was like for terran in host Was it the same really? Cause so far I've heard the game's balanced and we need to figure it out, it's interesting that you actually think it's the same as terran in HotS. | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:42 Nebuchad wrote: Was it the same really? Cause so far I've heard the game's balanced and we need to figure it out, it's interesting that you actually think it's the same as terran in HotS. in HotS Maru just had to figure out for everyone how to perfect TvP | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:42 Ej_ wrote: in HotS Maru just had to figure out for everyone how to perfect TvP the solution was easy: be maru. Not sure why the other Terrans didn't take that advice | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:42 Nebuchad wrote: Was it the same really? Cause so far I've heard the game's balanced and we need to figure it out, it's interesting that you actually think it's the same as terran in HotS. after the wonderful year that was 2011, terrans have been constantly told to wait and let the meta develop while they continue to suck | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:43 Heartland wrote: the solution was easy: be maru. Not sure why the other Terrans didn't take that advice because they didn't want their shoulders to start hurting | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:43 Heartland wrote: the solution was easy: be maru. Not sure why the other Terrans didn't take that advice I don't understand why they weren't dropping individual marauders behind collossi to avoid splash and flank | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:45 Inflicted wrote: https://twitter.com/mYiPtitDrogo/status/698578740763344896 [Insert a meme here] | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:45 Ej_ wrote: I don't understand why they weren't dropping individual marauders behind collossi to avoid splash and flank They just don't know how to play the game | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:45 Inflicted wrote: https://twitter.com/mYiPtitDrogo/status/698578740763344896 let Dreamhack handle it | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:43 Noonius wrote: after the wonderful year that was 2011, terrans have been constantly told to wait and let the meta develop while they continue to suck It's funny to me that you actually believe that is the case. | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:47 Inflicted wrote: Bo69 coin flip Hillary Clinton wins! | ||
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and the nukes hit so hard because i was listening to music :D | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:48 Nerchio wrote: I play really bad today and the nukes hit so hard because i was listening to music :Dhahaha, stop listening to music man | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:48 Nerchio wrote: I play really bad today and the nukes hit so hard because i was listening to music :DIt's ok. You're only a student after all. | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:49 esdf wrote: dayshi gg timing... you never know, Nerchio can always tilt and throw his monitor through the window. enough ghosts and liberators can drive anybody mad. | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:52 stuchiu wrote: I've never thought of Nerchio as a tilter. oh he is. but that's just part of his immaculate perfection as a human being :3~ | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:53 Inflicted wrote: So will anyone cast the Losers or is it 6 streams for Nerchio/MLorD? Some streamers are going to cast the loser. | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:52 stuchiu wrote: I've never thought of Nerchio as a tilter. he tilts very hard | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:54 Liquid`Snute wrote: oh he is. but that's just part of his immaculate perfection as a human being :3~ :3 | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:54 Liquid`Snute wrote: oh he is. but that's just part of his immaculate perfection as a human being :3~ Never tilt | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:21 Solar424 wrote: Bly losing to Showtime to create more chaos would be such a Bly thing to do. CHAOS REIGNS | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:58 Heartland wrote: So the rule book doesn't state what happens in these instances? What rule book? | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:58 Heartland wrote: So the rule book doesn't state what happens in these instances? an octagon fight with metal chairs | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:58 HelpMeGetBetter wrote: I don't understand how some of these players are in the qualifier, when they're already in the main event... they still want to win money and wcs points | ||
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EDIT: It would be bo3 and they would each win a match : ) | ||
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Does anyone else ever wonder why it's always the Zerg pros who join the LR thread? That's some creep spreading lobbyism right there. | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:00 jcairne wrote: 3 player FFA match offrace | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:01 miniskirt wrote: has there been an official confirmation? https://twitter.com/M_Dayshi/status/698581373209198592 He IS the highest ranking player who isn't qualified yet | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:01 Mozdk wrote: Nerchio, Scarlett and Snute. Does anyone else ever wonder why it's always the Zerg pros who join the LR thread? That's some creep spreading lobbyism right there. Zergs are just very nice guys | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:01 chipmonklord17 wrote: I'm shocked that drogo isn't seeded from winning DH in the first place. Like they chose to seed based on a year of HotS instead of the only LotV tournament that's existed in WCS 2016. He's had 3 qualifiers to try and get in | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:01 chipmonklord17 wrote: I'm shocked that drogo isn't seeded from winning DH in the first place. Like they chose to seed based on a year of HotS instead of the only LotV tournament that's existed in WCS 2016. Well considering he didn't make it through 4 qualifiers and now possibly here, maybe he doesn't deserve the seed right now :p I'm still rooting for him though :p | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:00 jcairne wrote: 3 player FFA match EDIT: It would be bo3 and they would each win a match : ) Bo4 on Catallena, Merry Go Round, Testbug, and Xel'Naga Fortress. First to 2 wins. | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:57 Nepou wrote: Logically they should be doing a group for the three players to duke it out. However, they could decide to pick the player with the highest winrate in the bracket, bly. This second solution would be unfair :/ the second solution would mean that the player who played the "easiest" opponent would get the slot... and he got that opponent because he lost laddergames on purpose which I think is against the rules (just like accountsharing), but usually not punished (just like accountsharing again) | ||
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On February 14 2016 03:54 Aeromi wrote: Some streamers are going to cast the loser. you do understand that without proper context this sounds very very edgy to say the least | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:01 Mozdk wrote: Nerchio, Scarlett and Snute. Does anyone else ever wonder why it's always the Zerg pros who join the LR thread? That's some creep spreading lobbyism right there. All the Liquid players are probably contractually obligated to post in LR threads. | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:02 ArtyK wrote: Well considering he didn't make it through 4 qualifiers and now possibly here, maybe he doesn't deserve the seed right now :p I'm still rooting for him though :p Oh I'm not going to argue that at all, it just seems like it would make more sense to do say top 7 of WCS 2015 and the sole champion of a WCS 2016 event in this case. At least for the next major you have a top 8 to pull from for 2016 | ||
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mouse only | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:02 lastride wrote: This has to be the biggest throw of all time. Elazer vs Mana Are you new to foreign starcraft? Final Destination | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:04 Solar424 wrote: All the Liquid players are probably contractually obligated to post in LR threads. Nerchio to TL confirmed | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:05 Aeromi wrote: It's going to be tie-break, matches to be played tomorrow. Round robin? | ||
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The player who qualifies has to win 2 in a row, don't know if it's a BO1 or BO3. | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:04 Solar424 wrote: All the Liquid players are probably contractually obligated to post in LR threads. not TaeJa | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:06 Aeromi wrote: The player who qualifies has to win 2 in a row, don't know if it's a BO1 or BO3. Logic would say Bo5 so probably Bo3 | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:06 ArtyK wrote: Here comes the threeway tie boys Fifty Shades of StarCraft | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:04 Solar424 wrote: All the Liquid players are probably contractually obligated to post in LR threads. Well Snute is the only one we ever see. So I doubt it. | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:09 Mozdk wrote: Well Snute is the only one we ever see. So I doubt it. Bunny posts in LR too | ||
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That seem to me to be the worst idea I have ever seen in a SC2 competition. I have much to say about this WCS season format but I'll keep it for tomorrow because I can not say it now with enough reserve as pissed of as I am right now. | ||
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Calculated. | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:20 Schelim wrote: wait how do you end up in a three-way tie in a double elim tournament? only 3 people aren't already qualified and they are all eliminated from DE | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:22 Ej_ wrote: only 3 people aren't already qualified and they are all eliminated from DE ok i have zero clue what this means (refer to sig) but i'll take your word for it. | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:23 Schelim wrote: ok i have zero clue what this means (refer to sig) but i'll take your word for it. this is qualifier for WCS tournament for which some of the players had already qualified, they still opted to play in it for monet and WCS points, hence the seeding madness | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:24 Ej_ wrote: this is qualifier for WCS tournament for which some of the players had already qualified, they still opted to play in it for monet and WCS points, hence the seeding madness oh like WCS finals or something? i won't ask you how all these players have already qualified for it cause i realise i could just look that up on Liquipedia (and i can't be arsed). i actually watch sc2 for the game nowadays rather than the scene as such, kind of an interesting experience to just give zero fucks why these people are playing against each other and just enjoying the fact they are. | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:25 Nakajin wrote: Wait was Apollo named Zenith? If so we have to same name I think it was spelled Zennith | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:30 D-light wrote: Nerchio on tilt. Apparently he doesn't really win vs MLord on ladder so it's not surprising he's trying to cheese. | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:32 Ej_ wrote: Apparently he doesn't really win vs MLord on ladder so it's not surprising he's trying to cheese. No one wins vs MLorD. | ||
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Lilbow is his #1 nemesis and he smoked him in this. it's over boys just give him the title | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:24 Ej_ wrote: this is qualifier for WCS tournament for which some of the players had already qualified, they still opted to play in it for monet and WCS points, hence the seeding madness That's not the players fault. If there is a tournament where there is money AND wcs points to win, I would expect nothing less from them than to try and compete. That's their job. | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:34 Binomyo wrote: That's not the players fault. If there is a tournament where there is money AND wcs points to win, I would expect nothing less from them than to try and compete. That's their job. ...I never said it was anyone's "fault" | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:42 Heartland wrote: why is nerchio off creep? fear is a weakness | ||
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nerchio is the kwasits haderach? | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:43 Ej_ wrote: that was a WoL moment flashbacks reemerging | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:45 Heartland wrote: are ultras good enough? it's not about the tool, it's about the artist | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:46 Ej_ wrote: it's not about the tool, it's about the artist But can any foreigner be considered good, with our without ultras? | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:46 Ej_ wrote: it's not about the tool, it's about the artist no, it's about the upgrades when it comes to ultras | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:53 Schelim wrote: what did Nerchio say at the end? "buff ultras"? nerf ultras | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:53 Schelim wrote: what did Nerchio say at the end? "buff ultras"? "nerf ultras" | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:52 Boucot wrote: Very strong showing from MlorD today, good good ! When you think this guy is thinking about retirement in september, that is a pity. I hope he will be successfull enough to change his mind. Winner final will be MLord vs Snute or Happy, so hyped ! | ||
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i thought i read that, but it made no sense. EDIT: lol love the production. *countdown* *coughing* *queue epic music* | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:56 Binomyo wrote: When you think this guy is thinking about retirement in september, that is a pity. I hope he will be successfull enough to change his mind. Why is he thinking of retirement? Studies coming up? | ||
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On February 14 2016 04:56 Binomyo wrote: When you think this guy is thinking about retirement in september, that is a pity. I hope he will be successfull enough to change his mind. Winner final will be MLord vs Snute or Happy, so hyped ! He just needs to be as good offline as he is online. | ||
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On February 14 2016 05:00 Heartland wrote: did Happy know that the queen would pop out there that moment? If so that is sick Ye he does know that, he also knows first lings timing on low ground hatchery but ofcourse not everybody makes the same build order so it doesnt always work | ||
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On February 14 2016 05:03 Ej_ wrote: I hope Happy goes full Happy this game. I hope Happy will be very Happy after this game. Oh wait, i support Snute. | ||
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On February 14 2016 05:08 Heartland wrote: where is Snute's army? dead inside overlords | ||
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he had like equal supply with Happy | ||
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On February 14 2016 05:11 Skyblueone wrote: lmfao, marinelord finishing the Polish that Hitler left behind classy af | ||
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On February 14 2016 05:11 Skyblueone wrote: lmfao, marinelord finishing the Polish that Hitler left behind whoever reported this before i had a chance, i appreciate that i'm not the only one with this reaction. and i almost never report anything. | ||
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On February 14 2016 05:14 Schelim wrote: whoever reported this before i had a chance, i appreciate that i'm not the only one with this reaction. and i almost never report anything. *Blows smoke off of revolver* My pleasure | ||
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On February 14 2016 05:14 Luolis wrote: man, is nobody streaming serral vs elazer? Game tomorrow. | ||
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On February 14 2016 05:17 D-light wrote: Game tomorrow. https://twitter.com/mYiSerral/status/698592756428578816 im dumberino :D | ||
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SKT Apollo!!!!! | ||
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On February 14 2016 05:25 Skyblueone wrote: zergs ragequitting all day, their ego must hurt realizing they can't even win with their joke race We are tired of people saying ultralisks are imba when it's the only "good" unit zerg has :D | ||
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On February 14 2016 05:28 Heartland wrote: Skyblueone really wanted to get banned today mission accomplished | ||
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On February 14 2016 05:17 D-light wrote: Game tomorrow. https://twitter.com/mYiSerral/status/698592756428578816 That's weird, Dayshi vs Lilbow will be played now. That's the 3d Millenium teamkill of the day by the way. | ||
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On February 14 2016 05:33 Boucot wrote: That's weird, Dayshi vs Lilbow will be played now. That's the 3d Millenium teamkill of the day by the way. Millenium's problem is that they sign too many players. Mionix never had a team-kill. | ||
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On February 14 2016 05:34 Ej_ wrote: Millenium's problem is that they sign too many players. Mionix never had a team-kill. they should loan some to EG to make NA ladder matter again | ||
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On February 14 2016 05:34 Ej_ wrote: Millenium's problem is that they sign too many players. Mionix never had a team-kill. Legendary team | ||
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On February 14 2016 05:34 Ej_ wrote: Millenium's problem is that they sign too many players. Mionix never had a team-kill. Millenium problem is that they have too many french players. Too many in the top 16 . | ||
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On February 14 2016 06:04 Noonius wrote: is this the terran version of BL/infestor? no this is the bio version of mech | ||
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On February 14 2016 06:04 Noonius wrote: is this the terran version of BL/infestor? It´s mad skills and awesome micro. | ||
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On February 14 2016 06:06 Acer.Scarlett` wrote: ah but zerg late game is too strong cant beat it ye so strong x) | ||
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On February 14 2016 06:07 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Seriously, how do you crack that? Snute had 7k7k and 0 ideas on what to do with it Could vipers be used to pull the libs ? Though with the range upgrade they do look pretty retarded | ||
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On February 14 2016 06:07 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Seriously, how do you crack that? Snute had 7k7k and 0 ideas on what to do with it maybe use that 10 minute window where he was 70 supply ahead to make something happen instead of watching happy take all the map | ||
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On February 14 2016 06:07 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Seriously, how do you crack that? Snute had 7k7k and 0 ideas on what to do with it I think we need to give players some time to figure things out and let the meta develop | ||
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On February 14 2016 06:07 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Seriously, how do you crack that? Snute had 7k7k and 0 ideas on what to do with it Couldn't he just attack one of happy's expands with his whole army when he had like 70 more supply and 4k minerals/gas? It seems like snute just waited too long | ||
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On February 14 2016 06:08 Hurricaned wrote: maybe use that 10 minute window where he was 70 supply ahead to make something happen instead of watching happy take all the map The classic don´t let them get there solution. | ||
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On February 14 2016 06:08 Hurricaned wrote: maybe use that 10 minute window where he was 70 supply ahead to make something happen instead of watching happy take all the map Well I didn't see that part of the game, I guess that'd be a good time to do something. | ||
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On February 14 2016 06:07 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Seriously, how do you crack that? Snute had 7k7k and 0 ideas on what to do with it Well to be fair, he had a lot of time when he was 80 supply ahead and did absolutly nothing. But yeah, it seems like super late game, terran is a tiny bit favored. | ||
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Just cracklings would destroy ghosts right? And you can just run around the libs with lings. Maybe add some banes. | ||
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On February 14 2016 06:10 Musicus wrote: I don't get Snute's obession with ravagers all game long, they are good early on, but suck overall later in the game imo. Just cracklings would destroy ghosts right? And you can just run around the libs with lings. Maybe add some banes. Yep that would also have helped to deny happy taking almost every available base on the map | ||
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On February 14 2016 06:10 Musicus wrote: I don't get Snute's obession with ravagers all game long, they are good early on, but suck overall later in the game imo. Just cracklings would destroy ghosts right? And you can just run around the libs with lings. Maybe add some banes. ghosts 2 shot lings unfortuntely | ||
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Zerg can insta remax to no end according to TL balance thread. | ||
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On February 14 2016 06:08 Musicus wrote: Terrans all over the world must be so mad at Happy. Uthermal was preachig these days how cross position on this map is an auto loss vs zerg .It's not an auto loss but favors one race over another. | ||
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On February 14 2016 06:07 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Seriously, how do you crack that? Snute had 7k7k and 0 ideas on what to do with it Would mass spores/spines and maybe swarmhost viper or some other combination of units work? It seems that the problem is that there is not enough detection, and liberators don't harm buildings, so the only threat of the ghost/liberator ultra late game would be the ghosts and nukes. | ||
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On February 14 2016 06:12 RaFox17 wrote: Zerg can insta remax to no end according to TL balance thread. With 7k mins and 7k gas, Snute could have gotten a few crack lings at least | ||
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On February 14 2016 06:14 riotjune wrote: How Snute get 211 supply anyway, bunch of extractor cancels? probably spores or something, since it's kinda hard to move your drones to that many free bases at once, but building cancelling, yeah. | ||
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Yeah but their attack speed is so low, 100 lings should still beat 20 ghosts right? Maybe add 20 banes. Liberators can't kill your buildings so I think just going ling/bling can be good vs ghost/lib. I just think anything would be better than ravager, they just get sniped and do nothing. Lings at least keep cancel the steady targeting. | ||
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Yeah but once you manage to kill the ghosts with ling/bane, it's a great trade right? | ||
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On February 14 2016 06:13 Deathstar wrote: It's not an auto loss but favors one race over another. I definitely agree, but uthermal does not. | ||
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On February 14 2016 06:14 FrkFrJss wrote: Would mass spores/spines and maybe swarmhost viper or some other combination of units work? It seems that the problem is that there is not enough detection, and liberators don't harm buildings, so the only threat of the ghost/liberator ultra late game would be the ghosts and nukes. I just went to check if ghosts could snipe spores and snipes and I learned that the ability is called "Steady Targeting" not snipe. TIL | ||
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On February 14 2016 06:16 Musicus wrote: I definitely agree, but uthermal does not. uthermal is just passionate. Unfortunately he might be switching to protoss ;; | ||
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TERRAN | ||
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On February 14 2016 06:14 FrkFrJss wrote: Would mass spores/spines and maybe swarmhost viper or some other combination of units work? lol imo the best solution is corruptors viper for the liberators and infestator baneling for the ghosts and try to go around the siege zones obviously. At some point snute sent a bunch of roaches and it forced the whole happy army back. He could juste have played around that to catch him up unsieged but instead he prefered to fight head on | ||
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On February 14 2016 06:30 riotjune wrote: everyone making nukes now? lol Nukes good unit! An very entertaining imo. | ||
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On February 14 2016 06:55 Paljas wrote: Lilbows macro is so incredible bad Floating 3000 minerals... | ||
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On February 14 2016 07:00 ossavi09 wrote: The twitch chat is so annoying, Lilbow (last seasons WCS winner) beats a zerg and a terran who didn't even get into any wcs season in 2015 and protoss is already being called imba =P (and the series vs dayshi is not even over) Now I know how orc players in wc3 felt like orc players? we were underpowered against human and nightelf for like 3 years straight man | ||
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On February 14 2016 07:00 ossavi09 wrote: The twitch chat is so annoying, Lilbow (last seasons WCS winner) beats a zerg and a terran who didn't even get into any wcs season in 2015 and protoss is already being called imba =P (and the series vs dayshi is not even over) Now I know how orc players in wc3 felt like Isn't it twitch chat's job though to call any race that is currently winning on stream imba? | ||
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On February 14 2016 07:02 ArtyK wrote: Isn't it twitch chat's job though to call any race that is currently winning on stream imba? well, they just made the usual jokes like "lilbow already practicing for game xy" and "protoss cant micro" =P | ||
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On February 14 2016 07:02 ArtyK wrote: Isn't it twitch chat's job though to call any race that is currently winning on stream imba? The general consensus of twitch chat is more right than wrong | ||
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On February 14 2016 08:05 ZeRoX_TV wrote: What happened to Serral vs Elazer? It will be played tomorrow. | ||
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And side note where did dayshi qualify ??? I follow a lot of starcraft and its the first time i seriously dont understand the qualifying process of a main event | ||
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On February 14 2016 19:22 klup wrote: Is there a good explanation post of what are those challenger/qualifier stuff happening last 3-4week. The games are cool to watch but i have no freaking idea why we watch the exact same players battleing on what seems to be several same format to qualify to the wcs main event. And side note where did dayshi qualify ??? I follow a lot of starcraft and its the first time i seriously dont understand the qualifying process of a main event It is a bit complicated, especially since the wikipedia doesn't have a comprehensive qualifier page, but basically there have been 3 EU qualifiers if I understand this correctly: 1. online (open to everyone), 2. national and 3. online (open to top 16 on the EU ladder) EDIT: and yes, Dayshi qualified yesterday, because there were only 4 / 16 that hadn't qualified already, and Dayshi made it further in the winner bracket than any of the others. | ||
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On February 14 2016 19:22 klup wrote: Is there a good explanation post of what are those challenger/qualifier stuff happening last 3-4week. The games are cool to watch but i have no freaking idea why we watch the exact same players battleing on what seems to be several same format to qualify to the wcs main event. And side note where did dayshi qualify ??? I follow a lot of starcraft and its the first time i seriously dont understand the qualifying process of a main event ...summing it up: WCS has a new qualifying/invite system: 8 players from Regional Challengers: 2 slots for Europe, Africa and the Middle East 2 slots for North America (USA and Canada) 1 slot for Latin America 1 slot for China 1 slot for Oceania, Southeast Asia and Japan 1 slot for Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau 14 players from Server Qualifiers: 8 slots for EU Server Qualifier 6 slots for NA Server Qualifier 2 players from National Qualifier 8 invites from 2015 WCS Standings Regional Challengers are region-locked tournaments that give 8 slots (in total) for the main event: in Europe and NA regions these are ladder-related with the top 16 battling for 2 and 2 spots. In the other regions the spots are given following the results of a region-locked tournament (Copa America, GPL, own format for TW/HK, open bracket + 4 invites for SEA...); Server Qualifiers are EU and NA region-locked open brackets that allowed respectively 8 and 6 players to qualify for the main event; National Qualifier is a country-locked qualifier that gives 2 slots for the main event and it is limited to the players representing the country in which the main event will take place (Poland in this case); invites from 2015 WCS Standings are 8 invite-slots given according to the last year WCS standing (excluding Koreans which are not eligible to play in the WCS Circuit). Unfortunately, being the first time for it, some things went a little weird and Server Qualifiers took place before the Regional Challengers (the ladder related ones for EU and NA) which caused a lot of players to be already qualified and battling it "only" for money and WCS points and not really for the spots in the main event (that most of them already obtained in the previous qualifiers). From the next time, at least if I got this correctly, the order should be swapped so the Regional Challenger should have more "value" and less chaos for the seedings since Server Qualifiers do not have a prize pool or wcs points to battle for (so unuseful for who will already be qualified). Dayshi is qualified because everyone "ahead of him" in the EU Regional Qualifier has already qualified in the previous qualifying-events. | ||
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On February 14 2016 20:33 CynicalDeath wrote: ...summing it up: Thanks - so that are 12 different ways to qualify. And in some of these qualifyings we saw the same players again and again. And in the last "qualifying" 12 of the players were already qualified. Well, looks quite complicated. I always look for events which I can recommend to friends not familiar with SC2 (but with interest in RTS). DH? Too unpredictable, starting late, showing "next game soon" most of the time. These qualifyings? Even the regular viewers got confused. So what's left? Maybe BTTV, exciting games and a reliable broadcast. | ||
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On February 15 2016 00:27 FrostPilot wrote: Thanks - so that are 12 different ways to qualify. And in some of these qualifyings we saw the same players again and again. And in the last "qualifying" 12 of the players were already qualified. Well, looks quite complicated. I always look for events which I can recommend to friends not familiar with SC2 (but with interest in RTS). DH? Too unpredictable, starting late, showing "next game soon" most of the time. These qualifyings? Even the regular viewers got confused. So what's left? Maybe BTTV, exciting games and a reliable broadcast. Since this is the first competition following the format, things are probably extra confusing. Maybe it would make sense to start with the ladder qualification next time. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12172 Posts
On February 15 2016 00:27 FrostPilot wrote: These qualifyings? Even the regular viewers got confused. The event in itself isn't confusing, it's how it goes together with other events that can be (and it mostly can be because we're too lazy to open liquipedia and see how it works) | ||
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IceBerrY
Germany220 Posts
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On February 15 2016 01:13 Inflicted wrote: wow Apollo wearing a KT hoodie. what a traitor I'm triggered | ||
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Deathstar
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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opisska
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Aeromi
France14460 Posts
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opisska
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VHbb
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It's hard to watch really.. | ||
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Sissors
1395 Posts
On February 15 2016 01:26 Aeromi wrote: Perfect game by Drogo so far. Bad game by Zanster. He knew phoenix were out, didn't make any spores, kept his queens away from spores, and despite losing tens of drones + a whole bunch of ovis to the phoenix refused to make more than one spore per base. On February 15 2016 01:28 VHbb wrote: Something is wrong with the observer, maybe they are broadcasting the wrong screen? It's hard to watch really.. Indeed. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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Topin
Peru10077 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On February 15 2016 01:33 Noonius wrote: how much is Apollo getting paid to push that gear? Not enough. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
On February 15 2016 01:29 Inflicted wrote: Hahaha that Lilbow salt My favorite dish! | ||
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Thax
Belgium1060 Posts
On February 15 2016 01:34 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: A bad observer, wearing hoodies and T-shirts, two blatantly tired casters. Professionalism is SC2 these days man... It's the toxic fan attitude seeping in. | ||
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JoeCool
Germany2520 Posts
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Kaizor
Singapore909 Posts
What is ESL doing?? It is not even obvious on their own website. I had to check for a bit before i found the store page. Some of the apparel on their store is definitely desirable. They really should be putting in more effort in marketing. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On February 15 2016 01:28 VHbb wrote: Something is wrong with the observer, maybe they are broadcasting the wrong screen? It's hard to watch really.. If it weren't for this post, I would have no idea what is Kalearis sorry for right now. Here you can see my high standards for observing | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On February 15 2016 01:39 Shellshock wrote: not looking good for Snute to 3-0 Does Snute even care about the game anymore? No passion. | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Kaizor
Singapore909 Posts
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Shellshock
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opisska
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Propelled
Denmark184 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On February 15 2016 01:55 Propelled wrote: I'm confused. How come Snute is playing in these qualifiers, when he is already qualified for the winter championship due 2015 WCS standings? because you can still win money and WCS points here | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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Propelled
Denmark184 Posts
On February 15 2016 01:56 Shellshock wrote: because you can still win money and WCS points here Thanks | ||
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Inflicted
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Topin
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Solar424
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opisska
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On February 15 2016 02:20 opisska wrote: How is there a three-way tie in an elimination bracket? What the hell are they talking about? game is just so balanced that they needed to play some extra maps | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
On February 15 2016 02:20 opisska wrote: How is there a three-way tie in an elimination bracket? What the hell are they talking about? because everybody in this tournament except for these 3 guys is already qualified for *something* that has to do with WCS which this is a qualifier for and they all died in the first round so now they have to face each other to see who advances. that's how much i understood anyways. | ||
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SmykuToronto
Poland269 Posts
On February 15 2016 02:20 opisska wrote: How is there a three-way tie in an elimination bracket? What the hell are they talking about? Bly, Zanster and Drogo went out in the same round of LB so they are playing for the second spot at IEM. | ||
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MarthTV
Germany387 Posts
On February 15 2016 02:20 opisska wrote: How is there a three-way tie in an elimination bracket? What the hell are they talking about? It´s for the qualification for IEM. Drogo, Zanster and Bly are fighting for the last spot left. Thats currently happening seperated from the actual challenger tournament. | ||
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miniskirt
France487 Posts
On February 15 2016 02:20 opisska wrote: How is there a three-way tie in an elimination bracket? What the hell are they talking about? this tournament and the qualifying slots aren't tied (yep, it's stupid) only 4 players were eligible for a slot, Dayshi got the first one by advancing farther than the others, the three others failed at the same round and are therefor tied for the last slot this was expected | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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MarthTV
Germany387 Posts
On February 15 2016 02:23 miniskirt wrote: this tournament and the qualifying slots aren't tied (yep, it's stupid) only 4 players were eligible for a slot, Dayshi got the first one by advancing farther than the others, the three others failed at the same round and are therefor tied for the last slot this was expected the spots are tied but the other 12 guys are already qualified so the spots wander down the whole bracket util someone can fill them. | ||
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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Aeromi
France14460 Posts
On February 15 2016 02:32 Inflicted wrote: Looks like Drogo qualifies It's 1-1 right now. | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
He'll be 3-2 at worst so he wins on maps hm wait Bly can 2-0 nvm but Zanster is out I think | ||
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Aeromi
France14460 Posts
On February 15 2016 02:35 Inflicted wrote: He'll be 3-2 at worst so he wins on maps hm wait Bly can 2-0 nvm :D | ||
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ArtyK
France3143 Posts
On February 15 2016 02:35 Inflicted wrote: He'll be 3-2 at worst so he wins on maps But what if bly wins against zanster and 2-1 drogo? He wins overall... | ||
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Solar424
United States4001 Posts
On February 15 2016 02:35 Inflicted wrote: He'll be 3-2 at worst so he wins on maps But if Bly wins game 3 and beats Zanster he'll be at 2-0 on match score which should trump everything | ||
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
On February 15 2016 02:35 Inflicted wrote: He'll be 3-2 at worst so he wins on maps hm wait Bly can 2-0 nvm bly can 2-1 both and still advance | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On February 15 2016 02:35 Inflicted wrote: He'll be 3-2 at worst so he wins on maps I think the map average doesn't matter. So far at least. | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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ArtyK
France3143 Posts
On February 15 2016 02:36 Inflicted wrote: So it's either Bly wins both series & qualifies or Drogo does. Zanster can't You have to win 2 series in a row so zanster is technically not out | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On February 15 2016 02:37 ArtyK wrote: You have to win 2 series in a row so zanster is technically not out If it's all 1-1, it goes to map score and Drogo will be 3-2. Zanster can go 2-2 at best | ||
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Aeromi
France14460 Posts
On February 15 2016 02:37 Inflicted wrote: If it's all 1-1, it goes to map score and Drogo will be 3-2. Zanster can go 2-2 at best Maybe a reset of the tie breaker if they are all at 1-1. | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On February 15 2016 02:38 Aeromi wrote: Maybe a reset of the tie breaker if they are all at 1-1. They said it's map score if it's 1-1. Reset if they're all the same map score | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
Nerchio 3-1 Serral | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
Bly vs Drogo? Is this the loser's bracket of the loser's bracket? They are both out, aren't they? | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On February 15 2016 02:47 Diabolique wrote: I do not understand ... what is this game? Bly vs Drogo? Is this the loser's bracket of the loser's bracket? They are both out, aren't they? C'mon, it's been explained like 10 times in this thread :/ | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On February 15 2016 02:47 Diabolique wrote: I do not understand ... what is this game? Bly vs Drogo? Is this the loser's bracket of the loser's bracket? They are both out, aren't they? This is the 'we still need to invite someone to IEM' subtournament | ||
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SmykuToronto
Poland269 Posts
On February 15 2016 02:47 Diabolique wrote: I do not understand ... what is this game? Bly vs Drogo? Is this the loser's bracket of the loser's bracket? They are both out, aren't they? There's one Katowice spot left and since others were already qualified, we have tiebreaker. | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
On February 15 2016 02:48 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: This is the 'we still need to invite someone to IEM' subtournament Oh, so it means, they lost in the losers bracket, so they are out, but this is like a fight for "being invited"??? OK, I see, good for them! But somehow funny these WCS rules :-) | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On February 15 2016 02:47 Boucot wrote: C'mon, it's been explained like 10 times in this thread :/ C'mon it's not like he could somehow search for the answer in the time he has wrote the question... and then wait for someone to spend time to answer the question. | ||
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On February 15 2016 02:32 Inflicted wrote: Looks like Drogo qualifies | ||
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Aeromi
France14460 Posts
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Solar424
United States4001 Posts
On February 15 2016 02:53 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: okay I was wrong, Bly, why did u threw it away? Protoss late game still pretty good | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
Every races late game is good if you go into it with a significant lead | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
On February 15 2016 02:52 D-light wrote: C'mon it's not like he could somehow search for the answer in the time he has wrote the question... and then wait for someone to spend time to answer the question. Sorry, I was not reading the thread, I just turned on the ESL.tv game, looked at liquipedia and did not understand, what a tie breaker means ... | ||
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ArtyK
France3143 Posts
On February 15 2016 02:55 Shellshock wrote: guy with good pvz beats zergs to qualify. surprised he lost to Lambo in the LB though Seems like pressure from winning DH got to him yesterday, the Lambo match wasn't streamed but he played really badly agaisnt marinelord Happy to see him manage to compose himself today | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
On February 15 2016 02:55 Diabolique wrote: Sorry, I was not reading the thread, I just turned on the ESL.tv game, looked at liquipedia and did not understand, what a tie breaker means ... don't worry about it, i asked the same question yesterday. due to the fact i don't pay much attention to the scene anymore, i still don't really understand why there is a tournament called WCS Regional Challengers that qualifies you for an IEM (rather than a WCS event), or why they would have 12 players that are already qualified for said IEM play in it, but whatever. | ||
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Boucot
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miniskirt
France487 Posts
On February 15 2016 02:57 Schelim wrote:there is a tournament called WCS Regional Challengers that qualifies you for an IEM (rather than a WCS event) the IEM tournament is the WCS event nowadays | ||
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Aeromi
France14460 Posts
On February 15 2016 02:57 Boucot wrote: 2 frenchies for the last 2 places, the Big 5 goes to Poland ! Underdog Monthly Finals to be played at Katowice! | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On February 15 2016 02:57 Schelim wrote: don't worry about it, i asked the same question yesterday. due to the fact i don't pay much attention to the scene anymore, i still don't really understand why there is a tournament called WCS Regional Challengers that qualifies you for an IEM (rather than a WCS event), or why they would have 12 players that are already qualified for said IEM play in it, but whatever. IEM Katowice = WCS Winter, it's part of both systems and they keep alternating the name they use | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On February 15 2016 02:55 Shellshock wrote: guy with good pvz beats zergs to qualify. surprised he lost to Lambo in the LB though I mean he also lost quite a few pvz's in the qualifiers in the past couple of weeks. Good for him on figuring it out a bit in the last second. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
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PinoKotsBeer
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
On February 15 2016 02:57 Schelim wrote: don't worry about it, i asked the same question yesterday. due to the fact i don't pay much attention to the scene anymore, i still don't really understand why there is a tournament called WCS Regional Challengers that qualifies you for an IEM (rather than a WCS event), or why they would have 12 players that are already qualified for said IEM play in it, but whatever. Yes .. well said ... I observe the scene, I knew, there were like 3 different qualifier tournaments and then i saw, there is another qualifier tournament this weekend, so that all the players, who did not manage to qualify, have ANOTHER chance to qualify and was quite sad for Ptit Drogo that he is out when he lost yesterday in the winners bracket and I thought, this poor guy, did lose in all the qualification tournaments before and now, he has the last chance - he must win the loser's bracket ... but he lost ... sad for him :-( And then I see, while there are all the RO4 matches still going on, in both the winner's and loser's brackets, there is ANOTHER "tournament"=tie breaker, where Ptit Drogo plays ... and I just ask, what is it? And then I hear, this is a mini tournament for ANOTHER qualification ... quite funny. I am really happy for Drogo, he is a good guy, but when I see, how the Koreans have ZERO chance to qualify for any good foreign tournament with good prize money ... HerO out, TaeJa out, all the others retired, and then I see, not only did WCS grant huge money for the foreigners, but also it introduced 21 possibilities for everyone to qualify - this just a joke. When I see, that e.g. sOs will have practically zero chance to qualify for BlizzCon this year and then I see this ... PATHETIC! | ||
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Australia18228 Posts
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
On February 15 2016 03:08 Diabolique wrote: Yes .. well said ... I observe the scene, I knew, there were like 3 different qualifier tournaments and then i saw, there is another qualifier tournament this weekend, so that all the players, who did not manage to qualify, have ANOTHER chance to qualify and was quite sad for Ptit Drogo that he is out when he lost yesteray in the winners bracket and I thought, this poor guy, did lose in all the qualification tournaments before and now, he has the last chance - he must win the loser's bracket ... but he lost ... sad for him :-( And then I see, while there are all the RO4 matches still going on, in both the winner's and loser's bracket, there is ANOTHER tournament, where Ptit Drogo plays ... and I just ask, what is it? And then I hear, this is a mini tournament for ANOTHER qualification ... quite funny. I am really happy for Drogo, he is a good guy, but when I see, how the Koreans have ZERO chance to qualify at any good foreign tournament with good prize money ... HerO out, TaeJa out, all the others retired, and then I see, not only did WCS grant huge money for the foreigners, but also it introduced 21 possibilities for everyone to qualify - this just a joke. When I see, that e.g. sOs will have practically zero chance to qualify for BlizzCon this year and then I see this ... PATHETIC! Calm down, SC2 is alive again! | ||
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
The guy has been constantly complaining about the new system since it was announced and is not running out of steam it seems. However, repeating the same opinion over and over doesn't make it more right. | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
On February 15 2016 03:12 BaneRiders wrote: The guy has been constantly complaining about the new system since it was announced and is not running out of steam it seems. However, repeating the same opinion over and over doesn't make it more right. while that is of course true, i do think it's a weird move by Blizzard to further segregate the foreigners from the Koreans and somehow expect them to magically become better by facing less strong competition. | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
On February 15 2016 03:12 BaneRiders wrote: The guy has been constantly complaining about the new system since it was announced and is not running out of steam it seems. However, repeating the same opinion over and over doesn't make it more right. Well, it is right even without repeating. The most people see it, some slower minds don't. So don't worry and be happy if you don't understand it. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
No, really, when I saw it, i felt a little bad for any up-and-coming Poles, who did not stand that much of a chance here. It's a little weird that the local qualifiers weren't run the last; no doubt Nerchio would have qualified through other means anyway and at least there would be a spot for someone really local, when we are doing this "grassroots esports" in WCS now. | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On February 15 2016 03:13 Schelim wrote: while that is of course true, i do think it's a weird move by Blizzard to further segregate the foreigners from the Koreans and somehow expect them to magically become better by facing less strong competition. Eh, I kinda doubt they actually expect that. | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
On February 15 2016 03:13 Schelim wrote: while that is of course true, i do think it's a weird move by Blizzard to further segregate the foreigners from the Koreans and somehow expect them to magically become better by facing less strong competition. But that is not the goal of the WCS changes. The idea is not to make the foreigners better, the idea is to destroy the Korean base (make it smaller with less opportunities). And they are very successful with this idea. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On February 15 2016 03:14 Diabolique wrote: Well, it is right even without repeating. The most people see it, some slower minds don't. So don't worry and be happy if you don't understand it. is this the "you're stupid if you don't agree with me" argument? slow down cowboy this is LR thread, not Debating 101 | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
On February 15 2016 03:15 D-light wrote: Eh, I kinda doubt they actually expect that. well, the alternative is that they have simply given up on foreigners ever being relevant competitively in the grand scheme of things. which is a strangely defeatist attitude, don't you think? | ||
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
On February 15 2016 03:17 Diabolique wrote: But that is not the goal of the WCS changes. The idea is not to make the foreigners better, the idea is to destroy the Korean base (make it smaller with less opportunities). And they are very successful with this idea. Can you stop with those idiotic statements? | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On February 15 2016 03:22 Noonius wrote: YEAR OF HAPPY certainly a part of the darkest timeline, where every bo5 takes 3 hours | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
On February 15 2016 03:14 Diabolique wrote: Well, it is right even without repeating. The most people see it, some slower minds don't. So don't worry and be happy if you don't understand it. If you could keep your ranting to one thread at least I would appreciate it. Spamming the same in every second thread isn't making your case any stronger, and other people, like myself, obviously can get rather tired of it. You don't like the system, we get it. Write to DK. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
meanwhile Happy makes 7 liberators lol | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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ArtyK
France3143 Posts
Against snute yesterday he took half the expansions on seras with a normal economy while snute stayed on 5 bases with like 7k minerals... | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On February 15 2016 03:28 ArtyK wrote: I like how happy seems to just make CCs as soon as he has the money. Against snute yesterday he took half the expansions on seras with a normal economy while snute stayed on 5 bases with like 7k minerals... that's how you are supposed to play LotV imo. I do that in my games, if I have money to waste, I just build bases no matter what the defendability is, some of them are eventually gonna stick. | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
On February 15 2016 03:19 Ej_ wrote: is this the "you're stupid if you don't agree with me" argument? slow down cowboy this is LR thread, not Debating 101 Yes, it is exactly this argument. I just did not want to say openly what I think about BaneRider. You know, I complained about WCS changes last time sometimes in December. Then I come here "peacefully" and ask, what is this tie breaker? Happy for Ptit Drogo, but not understanding it. Then, I hear, this was the 4th or 5th possibility for Drogo to qualify and I must laugh about it, how pathetic it is. So I write it (and add the today's news that HerO is leaving) ... and some idiot answers that I am the guy, who spams and complains about WCS over and over, which is obviously a lie as this is my first mentioning the WCS after a looong loooong time ... so I answered with this stupid argument. | ||
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Ej_
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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ArtyK
France3143 Posts
On February 15 2016 03:30 opisska wrote: that's how you are supposed to play LotV imo. I do that in my games, if I have money to waste, I just build bases no matter what the defendability is, some of them are eventually gonna stick. Yeah especially as terran where you can just build them safely and fly them later. Happy seems one step ahead of everyone in this tournament with this and his mass liberator range plays. Now we just have to wait and see if people find counters or copy that | ||
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On February 15 2016 03:31 Ej_ wrote: In Russia, Russians liberate French. Silly me, I missed that marinelord is French, I could have constructed much better statements | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On February 15 2016 03:32 Undead1993 wrote: happy pls i think he can trade with twice the mining and being able to make 8 libs at a time | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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Kaizor
Singapore909 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On February 15 2016 03:38 Schelim wrote: has it occurred to anyone that Liberators are basically the embodiment of Wings of Liberty, yet were only added with Legacy of the Void? Game is finally complete | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On February 15 2016 03:41 opisska wrote: Oh, they will finally learn how to say Katowice properly! (While Kattowitz is in principle a valid designation of the town, it is so in German, which is kinda irrelevant to the language situation at hand.) Apollo is a man of many talents, however foreign language pronunciation is not one of them Wow Mlord is getting butchered | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Thax
Belgium1060 Posts
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
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opisska
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Ej_
47656 Posts
MLord being played | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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riotjune
United States3393 Posts
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On February 15 2016 03:50 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: I remember reading in the SC1 manual that a marine had an expected life span of 9 seconds in combat. But that last fight didn't even give them that Not everyone can be Billy the Marine. | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
3-1 snute 3-0 marinelord Can't say I expected such a good run from Happy. | ||
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claybones
United States244 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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Kaizor
Singapore909 Posts
Wait a minute, Happy seems to be in his best form ever !! | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On February 15 2016 03:55 opisska wrote: How can he call him the winner of the tournament, when he will apparently have to play the grand finals yet? There's no grand finals | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
Oh, that's a weird tournament format then. | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
On February 15 2016 03:55 Kaizor wrote: The last time Happy looked so strong.. Wait a minute, Happy seems to be in his best form ever !! the last time Happy looked so strong he was playing Undead. | ||
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oGoZenob
France1503 Posts
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On February 15 2016 03:55 opisska wrote: Oh, that's a weird tournament format then. It's meant to seed the top two but since it's played after the Server Qualifier it's now weird | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
On February 15 2016 03:55 Kaizor wrote: The last time Happy looked so strong.. Wait a minute, Happy seems to be in his best form ever !! and then offline happens | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On February 15 2016 03:56 Inflicted wrote: It's meant to seed the top two but since it's played after the Server Qualifier it's now weird They should realize this and do Happy vs. Nerchio as a bonus | ||
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
On February 15 2016 03:55 opisska wrote: Oh, that's a weird tournament format then. Somebody that designed this one has no clue how it should work - no winner finals and no difference between 3rd and 4th place in terms of money/wcs points | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On February 15 2016 03:58 opisska wrote: Also, can someone enlighten me, how THIS is called the "regional whatever" and there is another thing called the "server qualifier", when THIS is the thing based on your performance on the bloody SERVER? It's really, really confusing. Yeah they could do with some renaming lol. It must be one the most confusing formats yet. On February 15 2016 03:59 Mozdk wrote: Not sure about this format atm. Is there any point of the last games other than money? Fame, glory and bragging rights. But isn't money a pretty nice thing? edit: Oh WCS points | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On February 15 2016 03:59 Mozdk wrote: Not sure about this format atm. Is there any point of the last games other than money? WCS points | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
On February 15 2016 03:59 Mozdk wrote: Not sure about this format atm. Is there any point of the last games other than money? we get to watch good sc2. pretty much all i care about at this point, especially since i've given up trying to wrap my head around this format | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
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JazVM
Germany1196 Posts
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oGoZenob
France1503 Posts
On February 15 2016 04:12 JazVM wrote: So which games are pointless now? I am looking at the wiki and according to that, no games seem pointless? there is no pointless games when there is a prizepool involved | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
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Ej_
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opisska
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opisska
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Rehio
United States1718 Posts
Please Snute, bring it back. I don't care what you have to do, drag this game into a stupid war of attrition somehow. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On February 15 2016 04:39 Rehio wrote: Snute. :C Please Snute, bring it back. I don't care what you have to do, drag this game into a stupid war of attrition somehow. Nerchio would beat Snute in that so that's a bad idea. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
edit: wow Snute wins whattttt | ||
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Inflicted
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Rehio
United States1718 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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MiniFotToss
China2430 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + what a god | ||
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Ej_
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riotjune
United States3393 Posts
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claybones
United States244 Posts
Lol. | ||
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Ej_
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Inflicted
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riotjune
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RvB
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Durnuu
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
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Nerchio
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ZigguratOfUr
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Ej_
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On February 15 2016 04:48 Nerchio wrote: So I practiced my all ins in this almost meanginless match since I don't think I can beat marinelord yet and there is no difference between 3rd and 4th :D the satisfaction | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
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Schelim
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Solar424
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On February 15 2016 04:52 Schelim wrote: is my stream behind? they're still playing here and yet Nerchio is toasting in the bread lol He just alt-tabs to TL during ling bane micro | ||
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Melliflue
United Kingdom1389 Posts
On February 15 2016 04:52 Schelim wrote: is my stream behind? they're still playing here and yet Nerchio is toasting in the bread lol I'm glad I'm not the only one who had this :p | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On February 15 2016 04:52 Schelim wrote: is my stream behind? they're still playing here and yet Nerchio is toasting in the bread lol 5min delay | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On February 15 2016 04:48 Nerchio wrote: So I practiced my all ins in this almost meanginless match since I don't think I can beat marinelord yet and there is no difference between 3rd and 4th :D Spoilers!!!! | ||
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Rehio
United States1718 Posts
But god damn if this isn't one of the worst ways I've ever seen 1st/2nd/3rd decided. I don't even care that the IEM qualifications were over early, I wanted to see who'd win the tournament. And I did. Aaand now there's matches still going on, and it feels silly. | ||
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JazVM
Germany1196 Posts
On February 15 2016 04:54 Rehio wrote: I enjoy the games, and I enjoy that we're having this tournament. But god damn if this isn't one of the worst ways I've ever seen 1st/2nd/3rd decided. I don't even care that the IEM qualifications were over early, I wanted to see who'd win the tournament. And I did. Aaand now there's matches still going on, and it feels silly. Can you explain? 2nd place gets a ticket, 3rd doesn't?! Why is it meaningless? I am confused. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On February 15 2016 04:56 JazVM wrote: Can you explain? 2nd place gets a ticket, 3rd doesn't?! Why is it meaningless? I am confused. It would be that way if 12/16 people hadn't already have the ticket. The qualified ones from this are actually Dayshi and Drogo. | ||
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JazVM
Germany1196 Posts
On February 15 2016 04:57 opisska wrote: It would be that way if 12/16 people hadn't already have the ticket. The qualified ones from this are actually Dayshi and Drogo. Oh whoops, that seems stupid :D | ||
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opisska
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Heartland
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RvB
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Heartland
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On February 15 2016 05:04 RvB wrote: gl hf into bunker rush welcome to eu ladder | ||
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Ej_
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opisska
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
On February 15 2016 04:53 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: He just alt-tabs to TL during ling bane micro Taking the micro to a different level! | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
On February 15 2016 05:05 opisska wrote: Love and hate may sometimes be hard to tell there's a thin llliiiiii-iiiii-----iiinnnneeee betweeeeeen loooove and haaaaate | ||
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
On February 15 2016 05:04 Ej_ wrote: didn't know MLord was Peruvian It must be a very well kept secret... | ||
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Heartland
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Ej_
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
On February 15 2016 05:08 Ej_ wrote: this could've been different MarineLord, but you didn't want to change A bit like you ? | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
I see love is in the air. | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
it is Valentine's Day after all. i'm spending it with starcraft, hearthstone and someone else's thesis i'm proofreading. what a life. | ||
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Heartland
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Heartland
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Durnuu
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
On February 15 2016 05:15 Heartland wrote: Edit: What the hell am I doing lol i saw that and was quite confused. maybe you should just borrow yourself into the ground. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On February 15 2016 05:15 Heartland wrote: Edit: What the hell am I doing Now I am curious tho | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
On February 15 2016 05:17 Schelim wrote: lol i saw that and was quite confused. maybe you should just borrow yourself into the ground. Yeah, I left my English there as well it seems, and my ability to make posts on TL | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On February 15 2016 05:03 opisska wrote: "And it's to find out ... who is in the second place" ... even Kaelaris appreciates the irony of the situation Why is that silly or ironic? GSL-style groups have two matches to decide 2nd place even after the winner of the group is decided. | ||
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Rehio
United States1718 Posts
On February 15 2016 05:19 jalstar wrote: Why is that silly or ironic? GSL-style groups have two matches to decide 2nd place even after the winner of the group is decided. This is the end of the tournament, though. There is no other stage, like GSL groups. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On February 15 2016 05:20 Rehio wrote: This is the end of the tournament, though. There is no other stage, like GSL groups. Well it's the game to win the second seed (if they'd actually ordered their qualifiers correctly). | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On February 15 2016 05:20 Rehio wrote: This is the end of the tournament, though. There is no other stage, like GSL groups. I was under the impression that this was a qualifier and not a self-contained tournament, so it is like GSL groups. I'm aware it was after the other qualifiers, but that was a scheduling error that won't be repeated in Spring/Summer | ||
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
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Poopi
France12877 Posts
edit: ragequit confirmed fraud hahaha User was warned for this post | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On February 15 2016 05:27 Poopi wrote: I wonder if Nerchio can be considered top good without abusive units like ultras edit: ragequit confirmed fraud hahaha i wonder if you posted this to try to tilt him, since he's almost 100% reading this thread between games | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On February 15 2016 05:27 Poopi wrote: I wonder if Nerchio can be considered top good without abusive units like ultras edit: ragequit confirmed fraud hahaha The term "abusive unit" is sure sign of empty whining. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On February 15 2016 05:27 Poopi wrote: I wonder if Nerchio can be considered top good without abusive units like ultras lol don't know why I am going to respond to this but I will. If he wasn't a top player, he would never make it to ultras or if he did he would still lose because he would be too behind economically. He would die by multi tasking or timing attacks by good Terran players. It takes awhile to get ultras, spawning pool - lair - infestation pit - hive - ultra cavern. Won't have them for what 9-10 minutes in the game? | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On February 15 2016 05:30 jalstar wrote: i wonder if you posted this to try to tilt him, since he's almost 100% reading this thread between games no, he just thinks ultralisks are overpowered in ZvT and the only reason Terrans win is because they are superior human beings | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On February 15 2016 05:30 jalstar wrote: i wonder if you posted this to try to tilt him, since he's almost 100% reading this thread between games They are 5 minutes ahead, the next game was in fact already on when he wrote this | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
On February 15 2016 05:33 Heartland wrote: I don't think Godchio gets tilted by TL It cracks me up | ||
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Ej_
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nice to know g3 already done lol | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
Like this? ![[image loading]](http://cdn.as7.org/19_Acer_Pic2.png) | ||
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Aeromi
France14460 Posts
Stop posting when the game is loading. | ||
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opisska
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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Poopi
France12877 Posts
On February 15 2016 05:30 jalstar wrote: i wonder if you posted this to try to tilt him, since he's almost 100% reading this thread between games I just found the game ahem bad but maybe online under blizzard watch is harder, more pressure and stuff | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On February 15 2016 05:38 opisska wrote: He probably just enjoys his spoilering power. Admit it, you all would too. Every pro already does it on twitter, and some in twitch chat, so they all must. | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On February 15 2016 05:40 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Every pro already does it on twitter, and some in twitch chat, so they all must. This is the place where the true fans are however | ||
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opisska
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
On February 15 2016 05:42 opisska wrote: You know what programme makes my wife fall asleep? Apollo and Kalearis casting! I've always liked Apollo's style. | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
excellent commentary, Tasteless! | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
I like them both, I am just commenting on the fact that Kaelaris was dissing the Hobit movie for making him asleep, while my wife has indeed fallen asleep about half an hour ago, listing to him | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
On February 15 2016 05:44 opisska wrote: I like them both, I am just commenting on the fact that Kaelaris was dissing the Hobit movie for making him asleep, while my wife has indeed fallen asleep about half an hour ago, listing to him best Valentine's Day EU | ||
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Poopi
France12877 Posts
edit: gg lost for mlord already | ||
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Nerchio
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On February 15 2016 04:48 Nerchio wrote: So I practiced my all ins in this almost meanginless match since I don't think I can beat marinelord yet and there is no difference between 3rd and 4th :D You were sayin'? ) | ||
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Boucot
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Schelim
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On February 15 2016 05:53 Nerchio wrote: So now I would go to the winners finals and win against happy but this tournament format is ridiculous so gg 2nd place :D Yeah, that is indeed weird how the first place was decided already. Well ggs and congrats! | ||
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
On February 15 2016 05:53 Boucot wrote: You know this is the online part of WCS when the top 2 consists of Happy and Nerchio. Russian and Polish internet OP!  | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On February 15 2016 05:53 Boucot wrote: You know this is the online part of WCS when the top 2 consists of Happy and Nerchio. And with Marinelord as high as 3rd. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On February 15 2016 06:48 Shellshock wrote: Weird they don't have a final. Oceania/SEA had s grand final where the wb player started with a 1-0 lead in a bo7 Oceania only has one seed so they need a grand final, while here they have two seeds which is why they don't. This system makes a lot more sense as long as this is the first qualifier done. | ||
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Poopi
France12877 Posts
Happy Drogo and Dayshi pulled it off tho. (no pun) | ||
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Shellshock
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On February 15 2016 08:15 Shellshock wrote: Does the prize pool on LP only add up to 9800 instead of 10k? Yeah. ESL pocketing the change. | ||
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oGoZenob
France1503 Posts
On February 15 2016 07:06 Poopi wrote: I missed Happy the whole saturday when everyone praised how strong he was playing and because of the format we can't watch him face the final boss, fack. Happy Drogo and Dayshi pulled it off tho. (no pun) on this tournament i'd say happy was the final boss. His games against snute made one of the best foreigner look like a gold player | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
On February 15 2016 08:55 seemsgood wrote: Happy needs a team. at this point it feels more like teams need Happy | ||
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Poopi
France12877 Posts
On February 15 2016 09:27 oGoZenob wrote: on this tournament i'd say happy was the final boss. His games against snute made one of the best foreigner look like a gold player Snute has been very bad (relative to his standards of course) so far in LotV, he'll rise at the same time as Scarlett when it's more figured out / stable, so beating him doesn't mean much, whereas Nerchio had enough momentum to be the boss from the loser bracket .But all in all it would have been cool to actually see who would have won yeah :/. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On February 15 2016 10:27 Poopi wrote: Snute has been very bad (relative to his standards of course) so far in LotV, he'll rise at the same time as Scarlett when it's more figured out / stable, so beating him doesn't mean much, whereas Nerchio had enough momentum to be the boss from the loser bracket .But all in all it would have been cool to actually see who would have won yeah :/. If Snute is going to rise at the same time as Scarlett then RIP both of them cause I'm pretty sure she's retiring in September. I'd rather not lose 2 amazing foreigners at the same time. | ||
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oGoZenob
France1503 Posts
On February 15 2016 10:27 Poopi wrote: Snute has been very bad (relative to his standards of course) so far in LotV, he'll rise at the same time as Scarlett when it's more figured out / stable, so beating him doesn't mean much, whereas Nerchio had enough momentum to be the boss from the loser bracket .But all in all it would have been cool to actually see who would have won yeah :/. I wouldnt said he was bad, just like less dominant, and he even won a tournament in china at the beginning. I get your point, but I dont think it's the fact that Happy beat him, it's how he did it. He was like three steps ahead in every aspect of the game. I dont remember seeing someone manhandle Snute that way, even when snute was at his lowest point | ||
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On February 16 2016 01:43 juicyjames wrote: Any recommended matches/VOD links? I haven't seen a lot from the tournament, but I really enjoyed Marinelord vs. Happy | ||
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