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Ranking at Monday 8.30 PM CET Top 16 Showtime has 948 points Lilbow has 920 points Zanster has 875 points Minato has 869 points Bly has 828 points Happy has 821 points DIMAGA has 814 points Strange has 801 points Tefel has 781 points Revolver has 768 points FireCake has 767 points NightEnDhas 751 points Harstem has 750 points Nerchiohas 735 points souL has 729 points TLO has 728 points Top 17-25 Barcode has 728 points Clem has 726 points DaNa has 725 points MarineLorD has 724 points Basior has 714 points Barcode has 692 points DnS has 681 points MaNa has 689 points PtitDrogo has 681 points
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Nice, are you going to update every 24h or 12 or?
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weow, this should be an art blog
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I'll try to update the ranking once every day, if someone can do it too that would be awesome! It reminds me of ShoutCraft America~
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This is what Blizzard was trying to do with Grandmaster league when they first released Wings, make it something cool to watch and monitor so you could see how well your favorite players were doing.
Then barcodes happened.
I'm so glad they're gone. It's damn fun just to watch the standings. :D
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I think you should just take screenshots from Nios or the ladder, so updating isn't as much work.
Thanks for the thread, great idea!
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Thbnaks for this, very much appreciated and I love the art :D
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Nice banner Aeromi, it's beautiful!
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Modern day Picasso. Revolutionary. Avant Garde.
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On February 09 2016 04:39 Rehio wrote: This is what Blizzard was trying to do with Grandmaster league when they first released Wings, make it something cool to watch and monitor so you could see how well your favorite players were doing.
Then barcodes happened.
I'm so glad they're gone. It's damn fun just to watch the standings. :D
Barcodes were there before GrandMaster league. Can everyone participate ? Or just the the one who did not qualified for WCS yet ?
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On February 09 2016 05:00 Philozovic wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2016 04:39 Rehio wrote: This is what Blizzard was trying to do with Grandmaster league when they first released Wings, make it something cool to watch and monitor so you could see how well your favorite players were doing.
Then barcodes happened.
I'm so glad they're gone. It's damn fun just to watch the standings. :D Barcodes were there before GrandMaster league. Can everyone participate ? Or just the the one who did not qualified for WCS yet ?
Everyone, even if already qualified they can play for money.
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On February 09 2016 05:02 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2016 05:00 Philozovic wrote:On February 09 2016 04:39 Rehio wrote: This is what Blizzard was trying to do with Grandmaster league when they first released Wings, make it something cool to watch and monitor so you could see how well your favorite players were doing.
Then barcodes happened.
I'm so glad they're gone. It's damn fun just to watch the standings. :D Barcodes were there before GrandMaster league. Can everyone participate ? Or just the the one who did not qualified for WCS yet ? Everyone, even if already qualified they can play for money.
Okay so drogo needs to farm the ladder like a madman !
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On February 09 2016 05:02 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2016 05:00 Philozovic wrote:On February 09 2016 04:39 Rehio wrote: This is what Blizzard was trying to do with Grandmaster league when they first released Wings, make it something cool to watch and monitor so you could see how well your favorite players were doing.
Then barcodes happened.
I'm so glad they're gone. It's damn fun just to watch the standings. :D Barcodes were there before GrandMaster league. Can everyone participate ? Or just the the one who did not qualified for WCS yet ? Everyone, even if already qualified they can play for money.
And WCS points.
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On February 09 2016 05:39 HsDLTitich wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2016 05:02 Musicus wrote:On February 09 2016 05:00 Philozovic wrote:On February 09 2016 04:39 Rehio wrote: This is what Blizzard was trying to do with Grandmaster league when they first released Wings, make it something cool to watch and monitor so you could see how well your favorite players were doing.
Then barcodes happened.
I'm so glad they're gone. It's damn fun just to watch the standings. :D Barcodes were there before GrandMaster league. Can everyone participate ? Or just the the one who did not qualified for WCS yet ? Everyone, even if already qualified they can play for money. And WCS points.
Really? Where did you read that?
Edit: Ah I can see it on LP, wasn't in the ESL announcement so I didn't know. That's sick . I guess they just announced that every regional challenger gives out 500 WCS points, but did not put it into the ESL announcement.
I really hope they will give out money and WCS points every month in the future.
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On February 09 2016 07:01 DTDstarcraft wrote:Wouldnt it be a lot easier to just look at this for realtime updated info: http://nios.kr/sc2/eu/1v1/lotv/Saves you a lot of work Aeromi =)
I don't know, I kinda like the whole community aspect of tracking it and cheerin' folks on rather than just a more "quiet" checking of a website.
Aeromi needs somethin' to do now that the rulebook has been released, anyway. :D (At least, I thought it was. It better have been. Holy shit, if it hasn't. D: )
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This bonus pool abuse is hilarous :D
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On February 09 2016 16:13 Nerchio wrote: This bonus pool abuse is hilarous :D Ur not on top of ladder anymore, Deal with it bro <3
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On February 09 2016 04:39 Rehio wrote: This is what Blizzard was trying to do with Grandmaster league when they first released Wings, make it something cool to watch and monitor so you could see how well your favorite players were doing.
Then barcodes happened.
I'm so glad they're gone. It's damn fun just to watch the standings. :D They happened because the accounts are revealing too much informations in history like Build order, game length etc. Not because they are in GM.
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The problem with doing a competition like this
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Would you care to elaborate a bit on this? What exactly is the problem? Or the other way round - why should build orders remain secret?
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On February 09 2016 20:02 Haukinger wrote: Would you care to elaborate a bit on this? What exactly is the problem? Or the other way round - why should build orders remain secret? If you see the history of your next opponent (Zerg) that he did hatch first 12 of 15 times, don't you feel "automatically" better prepared against him? Or either way round, player1 played 20 different build orders in last 20 games in order to confuse other player by looking his history, do you think player1 played reasonable/properly? I am talking from a progamer view.
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But this applies to both of the opponents, doesn't it? Anyway, trying to surprise the opponent and hoping to not get scouted results in coinflippy, boring games, so I see no reason it should be promoted. I am talking from a viewer view.
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I actually don't understand why Bonus Pool is even in the game. We didn't have it back in wc3 or BW.
Can't wait for the ladder revamp, then this ladder competition will be even better .
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Can these barcodes use their name change like 10min before the deadline? I'm not sure why pros haven't thought of that to be honest... I'm sure they'd (their teams?) rather spend 40bucks per WCS than playing on their main account like that
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On February 09 2016 21:46 Sif_ wrote: Can these barcodes use their name change like 10min before the deadline? I'm not sure why pros haven't thought of that to be honest... I'm sure they'd (their teams?) rather spend 40bucks per WCS than playing on their main account like that
Nope, they can not.
On February 09 2016 00:10 Musicus wrote:They made a few updates to their post 3 days ago. The most imortant one: "Player's account names have to be recognizable (no 'barcode' or otherwise unknown alias) once Grandmaster League opens. Any later namechanges will render that account ineligible for the respective top 16 final" http://www.eslgaming.com/article/2016-wcs-challenger-coming-ladder-euna-2533Seems to be working out really well so far. I'm just sad that it ends so soon.
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Ranking at Tuesday 5.30 AM CET ( Ranking at Monday 8.30 PM CET) Top 16 1) Minato has 1084 points (4) 2) ShoWTimE has 1010 points (1) 3) Zanster has 960 points (3) 4) Lilbow has 920 points (2) 5) Barcode has 918 points -- 6) DaNa has 901 points (16+) 7) Barcode has 883 points -- 8) Bly has 863 points (5) 9) PtitDrogo has 861 points (16+) 10) DIMAGA has 846 points (7) 11) Strangers has 827 points (16+) 12) Happy has 821 points (6) 13) Barcode has 819 points -- 14) Elazer has 805 points (16+) 15) NighEnD has 800 points (12) 16) souL has 792 points (15)
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Nice that they planned ahead of that loophole
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On February 09 2016 17:46 Dingodile wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2016 04:39 Rehio wrote: This is what Blizzard was trying to do with Grandmaster league when they first released Wings, make it something cool to watch and monitor so you could see how well your favorite players were doing.
Then barcodes happened.
I'm so glad they're gone. It's damn fun just to watch the standings. :D They happened because the accounts are revealing too much informations in history like Build order, game length etc. Not because they are in GM.
I don't think I implied that Grandmaster league caused barcodes. I was just saying that barcodes hurt Blizzard's attempt to make GM a fun thing to watch.
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There really shouldn't be bonus pools at least for the time of the qualifiers. And i really doubt that grandmaster people give a crap about bonus pool in general so might as well remove it for them.
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On February 09 2016 21:54 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2016 21:46 Sif_ wrote: Can these barcodes use their name change like 10min before the deadline? I'm not sure why pros haven't thought of that to be honest... I'm sure they'd (their teams?) rather spend 40bucks per WCS than playing on their main account like that Nope, they can not. Show nested quote +On February 09 2016 00:10 Musicus wrote:They made a few updates to their post 3 days ago. The most imortant one: "Player's account names have to be recognizable (no 'barcode' or otherwise unknown alias) once Grandmaster League opens. Any later namechanges will render that account ineligible for the respective top 16 final" http://www.eslgaming.com/article/2016-wcs-challenger-coming-ladder-euna-2533Seems to be working out really well so far. I'm just sad that it ends so soon. So all barcodes that make it to top 16 by feb 12th are disqualified?
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On February 10 2016 00:53 AlgeriaT wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2016 21:54 Musicus wrote:On February 09 2016 21:46 Sif_ wrote: Can these barcodes use their name change like 10min before the deadline? I'm not sure why pros haven't thought of that to be honest... I'm sure they'd (their teams?) rather spend 40bucks per WCS than playing on their main account like that Nope, they can not. On February 09 2016 00:10 Musicus wrote:They made a few updates to their post 3 days ago. The most imortant one: "Player's account names have to be recognizable (no 'barcode' or otherwise unknown alias) once Grandmaster League opens. Any later namechanges will render that account ineligible for the respective top 16 final" http://www.eslgaming.com/article/2016-wcs-challenger-coming-ladder-euna-2533Seems to be working out really well so far. I'm just sad that it ends so soon. So all barcodes that make it to top 16 by feb 12th are disqualified?
Yes. But I think any barcode is either a smurf or NA player (like Scarlett) anyway.
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Ranking at 6 PM CET
Top 17-25 DIMAGA has 928 points Revolver has 914 points MaNa has 910 points Elazer has 906 points Majestic has 905 points Barcode (it's Scarlett according to rumor) has 883 points Fuzer has 878 points TLO has 865 points Guru has 865 points
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Nostalgia back to the TSL-ladder....
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I came in expecting to see Happy among the top few in ladder.
Not surprised. lol
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Oh ladder locks at 12am whoops. No-one corrected LP for over a week :/
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gogo Dayshi !
seems weird that already qualified player are allowed in the qualifier there will be drama
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On February 10 2016 02:26 Kaizor wrote: I came in expecting to see Happy among the top few in ladder.
Not surprised. lol Rofl, indeed. He's such a ladder beast and that since forever. Been hardcore laddering at WC3 too IIRC, and he was doing kinda well back then too I think.
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Many Protoss on that list but when I watch streams currently live such as FireCake or uThermal, they only got zergs as opponents :o. The protoss are hiding to avoid losing ladder points, good strat, good strat.
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Assuming that all GM players are active then the bonus pool is just the same amount added to everyone's score, it really doesn't affect anything...
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So... who is this guy Mencemeat?
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On February 11 2016 23:20 ivancype wrote: So... who is this guy Mencemeat?
Another ID for the list
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I once saw Bunny facing this Mencemeat guy on stream, and I was like "wow who is that guy he is outmultitasking (or almost) Bunny o_o" then a week later I saw Major stream and go on EU with this account, and now I know why Major is praised for his multitask.
It's sad that there are no new faces tho. The llllll with 70% winrate three weeks ago was LucifroN wasn't he? And VortiX the llll zerg with similar winratr.
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So it ends today at midnight?
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should be, this 12:00am thing is confusing.
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24h clock so much less confusing
eu > na
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On February 12 2016 01:14 y0su wrote:24h clock so much less confusing eu > na Haha yes!
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Are there any "end of qualification period" events?
edit: in current Top16 are only 5 players which are not already qualified: Bly, PtitDrogo, Strange, Dayshi and Tefel
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Does it end on 6hours or 30hours? haha
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Mencemeat doesn't count so it's top 17
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Ok, then there are currently Bly, PtitDrogo, Dayshi and Zanster in for two spots
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On February 12 2016 05:01 Darkened2 wrote:Ok, then there are currently Bly, PtitDrogo, Dayshi and Zanster in for two spots If that's the case, I'm not sure that's what Blizzard had in mind.
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On February 12 2016 05:48 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2016 05:01 Darkened2 wrote:Ok, then there are currently Bly, PtitDrogo, Dayshi and Zanster in for two spots If that's the case, I'm not sure that's what Blizzard had in mind. Blizzard should of done regional challengers 1st before any invites and qualifiers to make this more hyped and interesting
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On February 12 2016 05:50 SNSeigifried wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2016 05:48 Boucot wrote:On February 12 2016 05:01 Darkened2 wrote:Ok, then there are currently Bly, PtitDrogo, Dayshi and Zanster in for two spots If that's the case, I'm not sure that's what Blizzard had in mind. Blizzard should of done regional challengers 1st before any invites and qualifiers to make this more hyped and interesting I am hyped
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On February 12 2016 05:50 SNSeigifried wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2016 05:48 Boucot wrote:On February 12 2016 05:01 Darkened2 wrote:Ok, then there are currently Bly, PtitDrogo, Dayshi and Zanster in for two spots If that's the case, I'm not sure that's what Blizzard had in mind. Blizzard should of done regional challengers 1st before any invites and qualifiers to make this more hyped and interesting Yes, obviously. Add this to the fact that the Challenger winners earn money and the previous qualified players don't, that's pretty weird.
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On February 12 2016 05:50 SNSeigifried wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2016 05:48 Boucot wrote:On February 12 2016 05:01 Darkened2 wrote:Ok, then there are currently Bly, PtitDrogo, Dayshi and Zanster in for two spots If that's the case, I'm not sure that's what Blizzard had in mind. Blizzard should of done regional challengers 1st before any invites and qualifiers to make this more hyped and interesting
That's what they will do in the future, but it didn't work out this time.
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So is the competition over is this the top 16??
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uthermal said he was gonna grind for top16 but it doesnt seem like he is...and he's not qualified yet
2 hours left
edit: actually demuslim just queued into him on stream right now, seems like he's still going for it
on nios you can see that only like 6~7 people out of the top100 aren't playing RIGHT NOW (last game within the hour)
nerchio, drogo and uthermal on demu's chat...this ladder thing is the best thing to ever happen for sc2...should've been this way since the beggining!
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On February 12 2016 06:01 SNSeigifried wrote: So is the competition over is this the top 16??
Still 1h45m to go.
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On February 12 2016 05:53 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2016 05:50 SNSeigifried wrote:On February 12 2016 05:48 Boucot wrote:On February 12 2016 05:01 Darkened2 wrote:Ok, then there are currently Bly, PtitDrogo, Dayshi and Zanster in for two spots If that's the case, I'm not sure that's what Blizzard had in mind. Blizzard should of done regional challengers 1st before any invites and qualifiers to make this more hyped and interesting I am hyped
Rank 1, gratz mate.
Pretty close right now, everything so damn close about rank 13+ right now, will be interesting to see the next 2 hours.
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On February 12 2016 06:01 Sif_ wrote: uthermal said he was gonna grind for top16 but it doesnt seem like he is...and he's not qualified yet
2 hours left
edit: actually demuslim just queued into him on stream right now, seems like he's still going for it
on nios you can see that only like 6~7 people out of the top100 aren't playing RIGHT NOW (last game within the hour)
nerchio, drogo and uthermal on demu's chat...this ladder thing is the best thing to ever happen for sc2...should've been this way since the beggining! TB ahead of the curve again when he did shoutcraft america. was pretty exciting when he did the ladder qualifier there too
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There is also some tactics involved, like waiting for the right queue time, or like Bly stop laddering on his main to avoid losing points. Really exciting, i agree, blizzard should do more of this stuff, to bad it lasted just for a few days and is over tonight...
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On February 12 2016 06:24 IceBerrY wrote: There is also some tactics involved, like waiting for the right queue time, or like Bly stop laddering on his main to avoid losing points. Really exciting, i agree, blizzard should do more of this stuff, to bad it lasted just for a few days and is over tonight... The amazing (well maybe not for the players) is that they don't grind points vs people not competing, they HAVE to beat their direct opponents to get their points . I don't think there has been too much system abuse so this is like a competition before the qualifier to a competition.
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Ladder 11/02 at 5pm 1 hour to go
That 3 way tie for the last seed :D!!!
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So it ends in 50 minutes? hype
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I wonder how many people will get caught for some kind of match throwing, I think I can already see some examples xd
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On February 12 2016 07:18 Nerchio wrote: I wonder how many people will get caught for some kind of match throwing, I think I can already see some examples xd
there is quite a bit of it going on interesting to see how blizz will react
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On February 12 2016 07:20 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2016 07:18 Nerchio wrote: I wonder how many people will get caught for some kind of match throwing, I think I can already see some examples xd there is quite a bit of it going on interesting to see how blizz will react I think nobody will get caught but that's just my guess
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On February 12 2016 07:22 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2016 07:20 sAsImre wrote:On February 12 2016 07:18 Nerchio wrote: I wonder how many people will get caught for some kind of match throwing, I think I can already see some examples xd there is quite a bit of it going on interesting to see how blizz will react I think nobody will get caught but that's just my guess :')
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On February 12 2016 07:22 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2016 07:20 sAsImre wrote:On February 12 2016 07:18 Nerchio wrote: I wonder how many people will get caught for some kind of match throwing, I think I can already see some examples xd there is quite a bit of it going on interesting to see how blizz will react I think nobody will get caught but that's just my guess Yeah that's how life usually works oops edit: who threw? mp or public o/
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TLO's out boys. Getting close
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On February 12 2016 07:22 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2016 07:20 sAsImre wrote:On February 12 2016 07:18 Nerchio wrote: I wonder how many people will get caught for some kind of match throwing, I think I can already see some examples xd there is quite a bit of it going on interesting to see how blizz will react I think nobody will get caught but that's just my guess
not too risky. They should get some ppl not qualified for the example imo.
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TLO with the 600+ apm losses, the tilt is real, mashing buttons and utterly agressive builds for fast losses edit: back to the caster desk I guess, Lilbow was right from the start??
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Yeah to bad, i saw how he dropped ranks slowly but surely.
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Yeah saw him fail a baneling bust vs Demu. Must be stressful times these minutes.
Uthermal climbed from 26 to 22 now. But only 5 minutes left
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Drama upcoming, i think the rules will be a little bit more strict the next time.
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Hahaha. When battle is over on ladder a war starts on twitter :D
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Marinelords winrate though. 117w 38 loss
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Didn't most of those players already qualify? Do they play twice?
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Ptitdrogo, Bly, Dayshi and Marinelord were the 4 who weren't qualified yet. I'm not certain how it works but I haven't followed it closely
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You're correct, I missed Marinelord's name on the page and I still had the list with Major instead of Zanster.
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Bly apparently threw some games at the end. This is absolutely disgusting in the context of the competition. Some players received undeserved points. Such manipulation is more or less equal to match fixing and it ruined the sense of this competition.
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tfw only Ptitdrogo, Dayshi, Bly, and Zanster are fighting for 2 qualifier spots. 50% odds of qualifying they should thank the people laddering who are already qualified.
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On February 12 2016 08:27 Kafka777 wrote: Bly apparently threw some games at the end. This is absolutely disgusting in the context of the competition. Some players received undeserved points. Such manipulation is more or less equal to match fixing and it ruined the sense of this competition. Yeah his last four games he left right in the first second and the fifth last he left at 1.48.
Edit. And Drogo had a 40sec game with 2apm also fyi.
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EDIT: Very late, thanks mobile.
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honestly if that's the unique drama it can be considered as a huge success. The amount of win trading didn't look too high and the little seed manipulation at the end just highlights the importance of having rules for a tournament.
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honestly if that's the unique drama it can be considered as a huge success. The amount of win trading didn't look too high and the little seed manipulation at the end just highlights the importance of having rules for a tournament.
Oh, but there are rules against it everywhere. Non-sport attitude is generally prohibited in competitions. In this case Bly gave out about 100 ranking points. While the next 3 contenders required less than 20 to qualify. Therefore he disrupted the game results dishonestly.
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On February 12 2016 08:57 Kafka777 wrote:Show nested quote +honestly if that's the unique drama it can be considered as a huge success. The amount of win trading didn't look too high and the little seed manipulation at the end just highlights the importance of having rules for a tournament. Oh, but there are rules against it everywhere. Non-sport attitude is generally prohibited in competitions. In this case Bly gave out about 100 ranking points. While the next 3 contenders required less than 20 to qualify. Therefore he disrupted the game results dishonestly.
don't focus on bly he wasn't the only one doing stupid stuff. And there isn't any precise rule for this right now, the handbook isn't there and the guidelines don't cover the Challenger
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I dont think there are rules about machfixing in the handbook - that does not mean its allowed wherever.
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Marinelord has to play drogo first and then probably bly, so he might be able to get his teammate Dayshi into WCS by beating both of those =D
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Why 1st and 2nd from ladder are on the same side of the bracket, shouldn't they be seeded on opposite postitions, to meet in the final?
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sad to see uthermal not qualify, but he had it coming for being so cocky...tues/weds on stream he was all relaxed like "yeah ill get it no problems" and didn't grind enough until the very last day and he was clearly very tilted
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Golly, it sure would be nice to have some sort of.. WCS Rule Book.
You know, so we could definitively say whether someone's breaking the rules or not.
What a world that would be.
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On February 12 2016 09:05 Kafka777 wrote: I dont think there are rules about machfixing in the handbook - that does not mean its allowed wherever. "Match-fixing"
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That is so dumb that players would even think about losing on purpose! Soooo stupid. I just expect them to be smarter... I mean at least what Yoda, B4 (and Life maybe) cheated for some sort of monetary comp. UGGGG.
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Do we know which game is going to be casted?
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On February 12 2016 13:01 My_Fake_Plastic_Luv wrote: That is so dumb that players would even think about losing on purpose! Soooo stupid. I just expect them to be smarter... I mean at least what Yoda, B4 (and Life maybe) cheated for some sort of monetary comp. UGGGG. If you have a better seed you have more chances of gaining more money so it's not stupid, just unfair because you can allow players to sneak in the top 16 with freewins but apparently it did not happen.
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So basically it is Ptitdrogo, Dayshi, Bly, Lambo and Zanster that are fighting for 2 spots. Bly the lucky guy who sits in the bottom half of the bracket alone!
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On February 13 2016 22:03 freeamount wrote: So basically it is Ptitdrogo, Dayshi, Bly, Lambo and Zanster that are fighting for 2 spots. Bly the lucky guy who sits in the bottom half of the bracket alone!
Lambo is already qualified!
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On February 13 2016 22:08 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2016 22:03 freeamount wrote: So basically it is Ptitdrogo, Dayshi, Bly, Lambo and Zanster that are fighting for 2 spots. Bly the lucky guy who sits in the bottom half of the bracket alone! Lambo is already qualified! oh, didn't notice this, thx
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No official stream for challenger?
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On February 14 2016 01:05 Niko_Thien wrote: No official stream for challenger? Twitch.tv/esl_sc2, should starts soon.
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Just when you start thinking that foreign scene is getting better... Not even a small preview on TL and the main stream is 10 minutes late already :\
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On February 14 2016 01:09 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 01:05 Niko_Thien wrote: No official stream for challenger? Twitch.tv/esl_sc2, should starts soon.
GG ESL waiting for the Olimoleague to finish
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Does someone know which rounds are being played today ?
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On February 14 2016 01:16 Boucot wrote: Does someone know which rounds are being played today ?
ESL Bracket says WB Ro16-Ro4, LB Round 1-3
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On February 14 2016 01:12 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 01:09 Aeromi wrote:On February 14 2016 01:05 Niko_Thien wrote: No official stream for challenger? Twitch.tv/esl_sc2, should starts soon. GG ESL waiting for the Olimoleague to finish Olimoleague > WCS
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Had an awful ladder session, hopefuly will see some protoss winning on stream ;_;
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On February 14 2016 01:17 Inflicted wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 01:16 Boucot wrote: Does someone know which rounds are being played today ? ESL Bracket says WB Ro16-Ro4, LB Round 1-3 OK, thank you !
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PtitDrogo, Dayshi, Zanster and Bly are the only ones not already qualified for the season finals right?
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Serral looks like he's having a pretty easy time
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On February 14 2016 01:27 jcairne wrote: PtitDrogo, Dayshi, Zanster and Bly are the only ones not already qualified for the season finals right? Yes
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On February 14 2016 01:31 Shellshock wrote: Serral looks like he's having a pretty easy time
Mindgamed in the first game and now nothing makes sense anymore.
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Drogo's build makes like no sense
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On February 14 2016 01:36 Heartland wrote: Drogo's build makes like no sense GunGFuBanDa does the same build, it's pretty strong as a mindgame.
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On February 14 2016 01:37 Aeromi wrote:GunGFuBanDa does the same build, it's pretty strong as a mindgame.
seems like a huge roll of the dice.
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3-0 against one of the stronger players np
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Quick 3-0 by Serral.
Woah.
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Serral got Showtime's number.
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Elazer decided that Seras on cross was decent enough to play LBM
he was wrong
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Elazer plz make macro hatcheries
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drogo played pretty awful
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This was really well played, sick Ghost controll. :o
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On February 14 2016 01:47 Heartland wrote: nice t-shirt, apollo must be a big Faker fan
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On February 14 2016 01:47 Heartland wrote: nice t-shirt, apollo
Innovation, I mean SKT, bias confirmed
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On February 14 2016 01:47 Paljas wrote: drogo played pretty awful I think he play pretty well until he lost all those high templar.
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The mass scans are so powerful now that terran has such a strong space control unit to go with them. So easy to just bully a toss around the map
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On February 14 2016 01:48 royalroadweed wrote:I think he play pretty well until he lost all those high templar. I agree, losing all the storms was the point of no return but before that he'd been doing a pretty good job.
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On February 14 2016 01:47 IceBerrY wrote: This was really well played, sick Ghost controll. :o
This bugs me, it's not like it's hard to control Ghosts. Way harder to keep your HT separated and not clumped or too far away from you main army~~
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On February 14 2016 01:48 royalroadweed wrote:I think he play pretty well until he lost all those high templar. I dont like that foreplay ghost vs ht decide the 200/200 fights.
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Elazer stop this LBM thing
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PvT on Lerilak looks pretty similar to PvT on Fighting Spirit
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drogo goes on like 1min+ periods of time where he isnt macroing AT ALL, lol
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how many HTs did he lose there? O.o
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On February 14 2016 02:01 Sif_ wrote: drogo goes on like 1min+ periods of time where he isnt macroing AT ALL, lol You can leave French PvZ, but French PvZ won't leave you
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I really do not like protoss
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My god Drogo macro is not good right now, still going to win but he can't continue like that.
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On February 14 2016 01:45 Ej_ wrote: Elazer decided that Seras on cross was decent enough to play LBM
he was wrong I'm pretty sure that's not the first time he's ever gone for that composition on that map...
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On February 14 2016 02:01 Sif_ wrote: drogo goes on like 1min+ periods of time where he isnt macroing AT ALL, lol Rubs me the wrong way also.
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Elazer goes for 3 pronged harass and then doesn't macro behind it, truly WCS
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On February 14 2016 02:05 Ej_ wrote: Elazer goes for 3 pronged harass and then doesn't macro behind it, truly WCS
not everyone can be nerchio
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He's obviously going stargate, come on.
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On February 14 2016 02:07 Nebuchad wrote: He's obviously going stargate, come on. can you not 1 base proxy robo vs Terran in LotV?
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On February 14 2016 02:08 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 02:07 Nebuchad wrote: He's obviously going stargate, come on. can you not 1 base proxy robo vs Terran in LotV?
I don't know but they were going crazy with how the depot killed Drogo's build cause adepts can't kill a depot when Drogo's build was clearly a stargate
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On February 14 2016 02:02 Noonius wrote: I really do not like protoss I really do hate terran.
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On February 14 2016 02:10 Ej_ wrote: ROTTI BUILD State build*
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double SG tempest on 2 bases, rubs me the same way 2 base arbiter would
PvT really feels like BW nowadays
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Elazer vs Dayshi is really great.
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This game... This map is awful lol
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On February 14 2016 02:11 Aeromi wrote: Elazer vs Dayshi is really great. how is this game still so even
edit: I think Elazer is done with this many ghosts though
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On February 14 2016 02:11 Ej_ wrote: double SG tempest on 2 bases, rubs me the same way 2 base arbiter would
PvT really feels like BW nowadays vikings ruin any kind of fun like that
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On February 14 2016 02:13 geokilla wrote: This game... This map is awful lol
you mean amazing
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wow landed vikings dominating
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So Dayshi only one of 4 still in winners
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On February 14 2016 02:16 Inflicted wrote: So Dayshi only one of 4 still in winners not for long
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On February 14 2016 02:16 Ej_ wrote: rip drogo, 2015-2016 rather rip whole protoss race~~
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On February 14 2016 02:18 OsaX Nymloth wrote:rather rip whole protoss race~~ Hopefully
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If two of Bly, Zanster, and Drogo lose than the winner and Dayshi advance to IEM. If all three of them lose then they'll have to do tiebreakers to find who advances with Dayshi.
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On February 14 2016 02:21 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 02:18 OsaX Nymloth wrote:On February 14 2016 02:16 Ej_ wrote: rip drogo, 2015-2016 rather rip whole protoss race~~ Hopefully so mean
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On February 14 2016 02:21 Solar424 wrote: If two of Bly, Zanster, and Drogo lose than the winner and Dayshi advance to IEM. If all three of them lose then they'll have to do tiebreakers to find who advances with Dayshi.
Oh wait, Zanster hasn't qualified not lambo >_>
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So does anyone know what happens if Bly, Drogo and Zanster lose in the first round of the lower bracket?
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On February 14 2016 02:23 Gubbernecco wrote: So does anyone know what happens if Bly, Drogo and Zanster lose in the first round of the lower bracket? Chaos.
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I am not on point. Everyone except 4 players are already qualified? I thought that tournament only offers 8 EU players.
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On February 14 2016 02:23 Gubbernecco wrote: So does anyone know what happens if Bly, Drogo and Zanster lose in the first round of the lower bracket? ESL recalls ForGG
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On February 14 2016 02:23 Gubbernecco wrote: So does anyone know what happens if Bly, Drogo and Zanster lose in the first round of the lower bracket? no one knows because no one seems to have thought this through
I say whatever the final results are, there will be seemingly arbitrary decisions made quickly followed by drama
I believe this tourney should have been restricted to players not already qualified (because it's utopic to believe blizzard could make out fair rules, let alone release them in time in the open)
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Polish stream: "Happy playing vs Zerg is a bit like Death in Venice."
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Please Godchio, crush terran filth!
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On February 14 2016 02:30 miniskirt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 02:23 Gubbernecco wrote: So does anyone know what happens if Bly, Drogo and Zanster lose in the first round of the lower bracket? no one knows because no one seems to have thought this through I say whatever the final results are, there will be seemingly arbitrary decisions made quickly followed by drama I believe this tourney should have been restricted to players not already qualified (because it's utopic to believe blizzard could make out fair rules, let alone release them in time in the open)
You cant punish the qualified players because there are money and wcs points on the line in challenger. Challenger should be before the open qualifier, it is an easy fix and all that problems are gone
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On February 14 2016 02:35 Gubbernecco wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 02:30 miniskirt wrote:On February 14 2016 02:23 Gubbernecco wrote: So does anyone know what happens if Bly, Drogo and Zanster lose in the first round of the lower bracket? no one knows because no one seems to have thought this through I say whatever the final results are, there will be seemingly arbitrary decisions made quickly followed by drama I believe this tourney should have been restricted to players not already qualified (because it's utopic to believe blizzard could make out fair rules, let alone release them in time in the open) You cant punish the qualified players because there are money and wcs points on the line in challenger. Challenger should be before the open qualifier, it is an easy fix and all that problems are gone easy, certainly, but still too hard for blizzard
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On February 14 2016 02:36 miniskirt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 02:35 Gubbernecco wrote:On February 14 2016 02:30 miniskirt wrote:On February 14 2016 02:23 Gubbernecco wrote: So does anyone know what happens if Bly, Drogo and Zanster lose in the first round of the lower bracket? no one knows because no one seems to have thought this through I say whatever the final results are, there will be seemingly arbitrary decisions made quickly followed by drama I believe this tourney should have been restricted to players not already qualified (because it's utopic to believe blizzard could make out fair rules, let alone release them in time in the open) You cant punish the qualified players because there are money and wcs points on the line in challenger. Challenger should be before the open qualifier, it is an easy fix and all that problems are gone easy, certainly, but still too hard for blizzard Don't blame Blizzard on this, it's either that and you have WCS Championship or nothing.
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So 8 streams showing 3 games?
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good engagement by Dayshi, using the cliff to divide Nerchio's army
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refreshing to watch some EU terran actions
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Kaelaris looks pretty handsome with this haircut.
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On February 14 2016 02:56 Ej_ wrote: Kaelaris looks pretty handsome with this haircut.
he looked better in long hair
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On February 14 2016 02:58 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 02:56 Ej_ wrote: Kaelaris looks pretty handsome with this haircut. he looked better in long hair I don't agree.
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What is MLord doing ?
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On February 14 2016 02:59 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 02:58 Heartland wrote:On February 14 2016 02:56 Ej_ wrote: Kaelaris looks pretty handsome with this haircut. he looked better in long hair I don't agree.
you also like Zerg. We're like polar opposites.
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not even bio terran safe from a mutalisk switch, what a time to be alive
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Millenium's getting rekt today.
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ugh Dayshi walked marines forward out of medivac range
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On February 14 2016 03:06 Shellshock wrote: Nerchio outclassing
it's not difficult when you're ahead
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On February 14 2016 03:07 Noonius wrote:it's not difficult when you're ahead
or when you're the most skilled starcraft player of all time
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On February 14 2016 03:07 Noonius wrote:it's not difficult when you're ahead it's not difficult when you're a god
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On February 14 2016 02:59 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 02:58 Heartland wrote:On February 14 2016 02:56 Ej_ wrote: Kaelaris looks pretty handsome with this haircut. he looked better in long hair I don't agree.
do we really have to post THAT pic of him?
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On February 14 2016 03:07 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 03:07 Noonius wrote:On February 14 2016 03:06 Shellshock wrote: Nerchio outclassing it's not difficult when you're ahead it's not difficult when you're a god
there has only been one god playing today and that happened in Olimoleague
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On February 14 2016 03:05 royalroadweed wrote: Millenium's getting rekt today. 3/4 won their first round.
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On February 14 2016 03:09 Shellshock wrote: the comeback is real
never doubt a terran, especially on EU
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On February 14 2016 03:10 Noonius wrote:never doubt a terran, especially on EU I dont think I doubt anyone more than EU terrans. maybe NA terrans
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On February 14 2016 03:10 Noonius wrote:never doubt a terran, especially on EU if this was Zerg making an 80 supply comeback, we'd have 4 more pages in this thread
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On February 14 2016 03:11 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 03:10 Noonius wrote:On February 14 2016 03:09 Shellshock wrote: the comeback is real never doubt a terran, especially on EU if this was Zerg making an 80 supply comeback, we'd have 4 more pages in this thread
all praise, I'm sure
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I haven't seen a player fall off this much after making a finals since top. And top got crushed while drogo won.
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nerchio is gonna die... to nukes
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On February 14 2016 03:12 royalroadweed wrote:I haven't seen a player fall off this much after making a finals since top. Inca, Seed, Sting, Sniper...
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On February 14 2016 03:13 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 03:12 royalroadweed wrote:I haven't seen a player fall off this much after making a finals since top. Inca, Seed, Sting, Sniper... Sound
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this game 3 is painfuly foreign
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On February 14 2016 03:12 royalroadweed wrote:I haven't seen a player fall off this much after making a finals since top. And top got crushed while drogo won.
What if bly loses?
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On February 14 2016 03:15 ArtyK wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 03:12 royalroadweed wrote:I haven't seen a player fall off this much after making a finals since top. And top got crushed while drogo won. What if bly loses?
Against two Zergs, he'd probably lose tiebreakers anyway
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On February 14 2016 03:14 Ej_ wrote: this game 3 is painfuly foreign
not all terrans are TY/Dream/Polt level
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dayshi is back at his old level this game, its so cool.
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Its almost a pure ghost liberator army.
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On February 14 2016 03:16 Noonius wrote:not all terrans are TY/Dream/Polt level Dream is doing well?
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ultras dying to snipes like marines to ultras, balanced
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On February 14 2016 03:12 royalroadweed wrote:I haven't seen a player fall off this much after making a finals since top. And top got crushed while drogo won.
lol u serious ? its so common. also on a psychological standpoint its pretty understandable.
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On February 14 2016 03:15 ArtyK wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 03:12 royalroadweed wrote:I haven't seen a player fall off this much after making a finals since top. And top got crushed while drogo won. What if bly loses? He apparently won a tournament and a cool 125 dollars today so it's not even close.
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MWAHAHAAAAA 26 workers to 1 nuke
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On February 14 2016 03:17 shid0x wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 03:12 royalroadweed wrote:I haven't seen a player fall off this much after making a finals since top. And top got crushed while drogo won. lol u serious ? its so common. also on a psychological standpoint its pretty understandable. psycho what, are we trying to account bad performances to anything more than Foreigners Still Suck?
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Terran, ghosts, liberators... yuck.
Want to punch my screen just from looking at that.
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On February 14 2016 03:17 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 03:16 Noonius wrote:On February 14 2016 03:14 Ej_ wrote: this game 3 is painfuly foreign not all terrans are TY/Dream/Polt level Dream is doing well?
better than the rest, he's in Code S after all
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lol no gg. That nuke must have hurt.
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On February 14 2016 03:18 OsaX Nymloth wrote: Terran, ghosts, liberators... yuck.
Want to punch my screen just from looking at that.
don't forget the nukes
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about 50 kills in two nukes
On February 14 2016 03:19 royalroadweed wrote: lol no gg. That nuke must have hurt. he ragequitted both his losses
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so the new turtle mech consists solely of barracks and starport units
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On February 14 2016 03:19 Boucot wrote: DAYCHAUD !
careful now to become Daychauvin
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On February 14 2016 03:19 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 03:18 OsaX Nymloth wrote: Terran, ghosts, liberators... yuck.
Want to punch my screen just from looking at that. don't forget the nukes
Weirdly enough, don't mind nukes too much. Everything else terran tho...
Godchio pls
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Bly losing to Showtime to create more chaos would be such a Bly thing to do.
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what did lilbow type before quit? edit: apparently "good luck" or something in French ?
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the terran hype is real
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On February 14 2016 03:24 Hurricaned wrote:the terran hype is real Lets not get ahead of our selves. Its foreign terrans we're taking about here. They might do well but they're not winning the main tournament.
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On February 14 2016 03:24 Yiome wrote: what did lilbow type before quit? edit: apparently "good luck" or something in French ?
It was probably some SC3 jargon we don't understand yet.
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On February 14 2016 03:26 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 03:24 Yiome wrote: what did lilbow type before quit? edit: apparently "good luck" or something in French ? It was probably some SC3 jargon we don't understand yet. Hilarious. :>
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On February 14 2016 03:24 Yiome wrote: what did lilbow type before quit? edit: apparently "good luck" or something in French ?
That would surprise me greatly.
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On February 14 2016 03:28 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 03:24 Yiome wrote: what did lilbow type before quit? edit: apparently "good luck" or something in French ? That would surprise me greatly. Someone in twitch chat said so.
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On February 14 2016 03:28 Yiome wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 03:28 Nebuchad wrote:On February 14 2016 03:24 Yiome wrote: what did lilbow type before quit? edit: apparently "good luck" or something in French ? That would surprise me greatly. Someone in twitch chat said so. Bonne chance?
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I wonder if Dayshi will catch onto the late mutalisk switch in game 5.
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On February 14 2016 03:29 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 03:28 Yiome wrote:On February 14 2016 03:28 Nebuchad wrote:On February 14 2016 03:24 Yiome wrote: what did lilbow type before quit? edit: apparently "good luck" or something in French ? That would surprise me greatly. Someone in twitch chat said so. Bonne chance?
I couldn't read but it was longer than that. And I doubt that's what Lilbow would say after getting terraned these days.
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aww damn it, he didn't do it
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lilbow said "well played, nice strategy" ironically because of the scv pull
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Ulrena
so 3 rax proxy or not?
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I didn't catch all of that game, because I was watching Mana and Pughy's stream, but the part of the game I did see: Nerchio played very close to a perfect game.
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On February 14 2016 03:30 Ej_ wrote: Ulrena
so 3 rax proxy or not?
Not
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My Protoss tears are all gone. I'm empty.
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On February 14 2016 03:32 Mozdk wrote: My Protoss tears are all gone. I'm empty.
there's still LB
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On February 14 2016 03:32 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 03:32 Mozdk wrote: My Protoss tears are all gone. I'm empty. there's still LB MaNa vs Zerg is not going to end well for Protoss
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Definitely been a sad week for protoss but we will survive!!! Also that 2-5 proleague is vs z :D!!!
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On February 14 2016 03:37 Inflicted wrote: SortOf 3-1 Harstem
what the hell, how?
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On February 14 2016 03:38 Heartland wrote:what the hell, how? year of BL/Infestor
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On February 14 2016 03:38 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 03:38 Heartland wrote:On February 14 2016 03:37 Inflicted wrote: SortOf 3-1 Harstem what the hell, how? year of BL/Infestor
I knew Rain was right
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On February 14 2016 03:38 Heartland wrote:what the hell, how? He's sortof good...
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protoss finally starting to comprehend what it was like for terran in host
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On February 14 2016 03:39 Noonius wrote:protoss finally starting to comprehend what it was like for terran in host Wasn't that bad for terran in PL tbh. We had Maru wrecking everybody.
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On February 14 2016 03:39 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 03:38 Heartland wrote:On February 14 2016 03:37 Inflicted wrote: SortOf 3-1 Harstem what the hell, how? He's sortof good...
He's really really not.
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On February 14 2016 03:41 Heartland wrote: terrible fight by Dayshi he knew he was on a clock
now he knows the time is up
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On February 14 2016 03:40 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 03:39 Noonius wrote:protoss finally starting to comprehend what it was like for terran in host Wasn't that bad for terran in PL tbh. We had Maru wrecking everybody.
who?
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On February 14 2016 03:41 Heartland wrote: terrible fight by Dayshi
Terribly strange choices.
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On February 14 2016 03:41 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 03:40 royalroadweed wrote:On February 14 2016 03:39 Noonius wrote:protoss finally starting to comprehend what it was like for terran in host Wasn't that bad for terran in PL tbh. We had Maru wrecking everybody. who?
MaruThermal
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On February 14 2016 03:39 Noonius wrote:protoss finally starting to comprehend what it was like for terran in host
Was it the same really? Cause so far I've heard the game's balanced and we need to figure it out, it's interesting that you actually think it's the same as terran in HotS.
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On February 14 2016 03:42 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 03:39 Noonius wrote:protoss finally starting to comprehend what it was like for terran in host Was it the same really? Cause so far I've heard the game's balanced and we need to figure it out, it's interesting that you actually think it's the same as terran in HotS. in HotS Maru just had to figure out for everyone how to perfect TvP
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On February 14 2016 03:42 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 03:42 Nebuchad wrote:On February 14 2016 03:39 Noonius wrote:protoss finally starting to comprehend what it was like for terran in host Was it the same really? Cause so far I've heard the game's balanced and we need to figure it out, it's interesting that you actually think it's the same as terran in HotS. in HotS Maru just had to figure out for everyone how to perfect TvP
the solution was easy: be maru.
Not sure why the other Terrans didn't take that advice
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On February 14 2016 03:42 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 03:39 Noonius wrote:protoss finally starting to comprehend what it was like for terran in host Was it the same really? Cause so far I've heard the game's balanced and we need to figure it out, it's interesting that you actually think it's the same as terran in HotS.
after the wonderful year that was 2011, terrans have been constantly told to wait and let the meta develop while they continue to suck
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On February 14 2016 03:43 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 03:42 Ej_ wrote:On February 14 2016 03:42 Nebuchad wrote:On February 14 2016 03:39 Noonius wrote:protoss finally starting to comprehend what it was like for terran in host Was it the same really? Cause so far I've heard the game's balanced and we need to figure it out, it's interesting that you actually think it's the same as terran in HotS. in HotS Maru just had to figure out for everyone how to perfect TvP the solution was easy: be maru. Not sure why the other Terrans didn't take that advice
because they didn't want their shoulders to start hurting
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On February 14 2016 03:43 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 03:42 Ej_ wrote:On February 14 2016 03:42 Nebuchad wrote:On February 14 2016 03:39 Noonius wrote:protoss finally starting to comprehend what it was like for terran in host Was it the same really? Cause so far I've heard the game's balanced and we need to figure it out, it's interesting that you actually think it's the same as terran in HotS. in HotS Maru just had to figure out for everyone how to perfect TvP the solution was easy: be maru. Not sure why the other Terrans didn't take that advice I don't understand why they weren't dropping individual marauders behind collossi to avoid splash and flank
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On February 14 2016 03:45 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 03:43 Heartland wrote:On February 14 2016 03:42 Ej_ wrote:On February 14 2016 03:42 Nebuchad wrote:On February 14 2016 03:39 Noonius wrote:protoss finally starting to comprehend what it was like for terran in host Was it the same really? Cause so far I've heard the game's balanced and we need to figure it out, it's interesting that you actually think it's the same as terran in HotS. in HotS Maru just had to figure out for everyone how to perfect TvP the solution was easy: be maru. Not sure why the other Terrans didn't take that advice I don't understand why they weren't dropping individual marauders behind collossi to avoid splash and flank
They just don't know how to play the game
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On February 14 2016 03:43 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 03:42 Nebuchad wrote:On February 14 2016 03:39 Noonius wrote:protoss finally starting to comprehend what it was like for terran in host Was it the same really? Cause so far I've heard the game's balanced and we need to figure it out, it's interesting that you actually think it's the same as terran in HotS. after the wonderful year that was 2011, terrans have been constantly told to wait and let the meta develop while they continue to suck
It's funny to me that you actually believe that is the case.
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On February 14 2016 03:47 Inflicted wrote: Bo69 coin flip Hillary Clinton wins!
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I play really bad today and the nukes hit so hard because i was listening to music :D
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On February 14 2016 03:48 Nerchio wrote:I play really bad today and the nukes hit so hard because i was listening to music :D
hahaha, stop listening to music man
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On February 14 2016 03:48 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 03:48 Nerchio wrote:I play really bad today and the nukes hit so hard because i was listening to music :D hahaha, stop listening to music man
nah he needs a handicap to make this competitive.
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Bly could make a case for winning second spot, he has the better ratio. Otherwise they could go for a group.
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On February 14 2016 03:48 Nerchio wrote:I play really bad today and the nukes hit so hard because i was listening to music :D It's ok. You're only a student after all.
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On February 14 2016 03:49 esdf wrote: dayshi gg timing...
you never know, Nerchio can always tilt and throw his monitor through the window.
enough ghosts and liberators can drive anybody mad.
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I've never thought of Nerchio as a tilter.
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They could go by their seed that was determined by where they finished on the ladder. In that case PtitDrogo finished the highest of the three.
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On February 14 2016 03:52 stuchiu wrote: I've never thought of Nerchio as a tilter. oh he is. but that's just part of his immaculate perfection as a human being :3~
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On February 14 2016 03:53 Inflicted wrote: So will anyone cast the Losers or is it 6 streams for Nerchio/MLorD? Some streamers are going to cast the loser.
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On February 14 2016 03:52 stuchiu wrote: I've never thought of Nerchio as a tilter. he tilts very hard
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On February 14 2016 03:54 Liquid`Snute wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 03:52 stuchiu wrote: I've never thought of Nerchio as a tilter. oh he is. but that's just part of his immaculate perfection as a human being :3~
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On February 14 2016 03:54 Liquid`Snute wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 03:52 stuchiu wrote: I've never thought of Nerchio as a tilter. oh he is. but that's just part of his immaculate perfection as a human being :3~ Never tilt
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On February 14 2016 03:21 Solar424 wrote: Bly losing to Showtime to create more chaos would be such a Bly thing to do. CHAOS REIGNS
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Logically they should be doing a group for the three players to duke it out. However, they could decide to pick the player with the highest winrate in the bracket, bly. This second solution would be unfair :/
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On February 14 2016 03:55 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 03:54 Liquid`Snute wrote:On February 14 2016 03:52 stuchiu wrote: I've never thought of Nerchio as a tilter. oh he is. but that's just part of his immaculate perfection as a human being :3~ Never tilt don't lie, I'll never forgive you losing that bo3 to Grubby at 2012 WCS
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So the rule book doesn't state what happens in these instances?
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I don't understand how some of these players are in the qualifier, when they're already in the main event...
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On February 14 2016 03:58 Heartland wrote: So the rule book doesn't state what happens in these instances? What rule book?
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On February 14 2016 03:58 Heartland wrote: So the rule book doesn't state what happens in these instances? an octagon fight with metal chairs
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On February 14 2016 03:58 HelpMeGetBetter wrote: I don't understand how some of these players are in the qualifier, when they're already in the main event... they still want to win money and wcs points
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inb4 threeway tie if 3 man group
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3 player FFA match
EDIT: It would be bo3 and they would each win a match : )
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Nerchio, Scarlett and Snute.
Does anyone else ever wonder why it's always the Zerg pros who join the LR thread?
That's some creep spreading lobbyism right there.
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has there been an official confirmation?
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On February 14 2016 04:00 jcairne wrote: 3 player FFA match offrace
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I'm shocked that drogo isn't seeded from winning DH in the first place. Like they chose to seed based on a year of HotS instead of the only LotV tournament that's existed in WCS 2016.
He IS the highest ranking player who isn't qualified yet
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On February 14 2016 04:01 Mozdk wrote: Nerchio, Scarlett and Snute.
Does anyone else ever wonder why it's always the Zerg pros who join the LR thread?
That's some creep spreading lobbyism right there. Zergs are just very nice guys
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On February 14 2016 04:01 chipmonklord17 wrote: I'm shocked that drogo isn't seeded from winning DH in the first place. Like they chose to seed based on a year of HotS instead of the only LotV tournament that's existed in WCS 2016.
He's had 3 qualifiers to try and get in
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On February 14 2016 04:01 chipmonklord17 wrote: I'm shocked that drogo isn't seeded from winning DH in the first place. Like they chose to seed based on a year of HotS instead of the only LotV tournament that's existed in WCS 2016.
Well considering he didn't make it through 4 qualifiers and now possibly here, maybe he doesn't deserve the seed right now :p I'm still rooting for him though :p
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The only fair thing to do is to play a series of Archon matches where everyone is paired with everyone in sequential sets of bo5's where the player with the highest overall map score moves on.
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This has to be the biggest throw of all time. Elazer vs Mana
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On February 14 2016 04:00 jcairne wrote: 3 player FFA match
EDIT: It would be bo3 and they would each win a match : ) Bo4 on Catallena, Merry Go Round, Testbug, and Xel'Naga Fortress. First to 2 wins.
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On February 14 2016 03:57 Nepou wrote: Logically they should be doing a group for the three players to duke it out. However, they could decide to pick the player with the highest winrate in the bracket, bly. This second solution would be unfair :/
the second solution would mean that the player who played the "easiest" opponent would get the slot... and he got that opponent because he lost laddergames on purpose which I think is against the rules (just like accountsharing), but usually not punished (just like accountsharing again)
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On February 14 2016 03:54 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 03:53 Inflicted wrote: So will anyone cast the Losers or is it 6 streams for Nerchio/MLorD? Some streamers are going to cast the loser.
you do understand that without proper context this sounds very very edgy to say the least
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On February 14 2016 04:01 Mozdk wrote: Nerchio, Scarlett and Snute.
Does anyone else ever wonder why it's always the Zerg pros who join the LR thread?
That's some creep spreading lobbyism right there. All the Liquid players are probably contractually obligated to post in LR threads.
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On February 14 2016 04:02 ArtyK wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 04:01 chipmonklord17 wrote: I'm shocked that drogo isn't seeded from winning DH in the first place. Like they chose to seed based on a year of HotS instead of the only LotV tournament that's existed in WCS 2016. Well considering he didn't make it through 4 qualifiers and now possibly here, maybe he doesn't deserve the seed right now :p I'm still rooting for him though :p
Oh I'm not going to argue that at all, it just seems like it would make more sense to do say top 7 of WCS 2015 and the sole champion of a WCS 2016 event in this case. At least for the next major you have a top 8 to pull from for 2016
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On February 14 2016 04:01 Shellshock wrote:offrace
mouse only
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On February 14 2016 04:02 lastride wrote: This has to be the biggest throw of all time. Elazer vs Mana Are you new to foreign starcraft?
On February 14 2016 04:04 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 04:01 Shellshock wrote:On February 14 2016 04:00 jcairne wrote: 3 player FFA match offrace mouse only Final Destination
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On February 14 2016 04:04 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 04:01 Mozdk wrote: Nerchio, Scarlett and Snute.
Does anyone else ever wonder why it's always the Zerg pros who join the LR thread?
That's some creep spreading lobbyism right there. All the Liquid players are probably contractually obligated to post in LR threads.
Nerchio to TL confirmed
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It's going to be tie-break, matches to be played tomorrow.
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So that's what you have to do to lose a ZvP
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On February 14 2016 04:05 Aeromi wrote: It's going to be tie-break, matches to be played tomorrow.
Round robin?
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Here comes the threeway tie boys
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On February 14 2016 04:06 Inflicted wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 04:05 Aeromi wrote: It's going to be tie-break, matches to be played tomorrow. Round robin? The player who qualifies has to win 2 in a row, don't know if it's a BO1 or BO3.
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On February 14 2016 04:04 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 04:01 Mozdk wrote: Nerchio, Scarlett and Snute.
Does anyone else ever wonder why it's always the Zerg pros who join the LR thread?
That's some creep spreading lobbyism right there. All the Liquid players are probably contractually obligated to post in LR threads.
not TaeJa
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On February 14 2016 04:04 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 04:01 Shellshock wrote:On February 14 2016 04:00 jcairne wrote: 3 player FFA match offrace mouse only
right click only
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On February 14 2016 04:06 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 04:06 Inflicted wrote:On February 14 2016 04:05 Aeromi wrote: It's going to be tie-break, matches to be played tomorrow. Round robin? The player who qualifies has to win 2 in a row, don't know if it's a BO1 or BO3.
Logic would say Bo5 so probably Bo3
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On February 14 2016 04:06 ArtyK wrote: Here comes the threeway tie boys
Fifty Shades of StarCraft
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On February 14 2016 04:08 Noonius wrote:Fifty Shades of StarCraft
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On February 14 2016 04:04 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 04:01 Mozdk wrote: Nerchio, Scarlett and Snute.
Does anyone else ever wonder why it's always the Zerg pros who join the LR thread?
That's some creep spreading lobbyism right there. All the Liquid players are probably contractually obligated to post in LR threads.
Well Snute is the only one we ever see. So I doubt it.
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On February 14 2016 04:09 Mozdk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 04:04 Solar424 wrote:On February 14 2016 04:01 Mozdk wrote: Nerchio, Scarlett and Snute.
Does anyone else ever wonder why it's always the Zerg pros who join the LR thread?
That's some creep spreading lobbyism right there. All the Liquid players are probably contractually obligated to post in LR threads. Well Snute is the only one we ever see. So I doubt it. Bunny posts in LR too
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hahaha, I haven't seen that before
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Seem like the second qualifying place will be played in a tie break form (survival) between Bly, PtitDrogo and Zanster. That seem to me to be the worst idea I have ever seen in a SC2 competition.
I have much to say about this WCS season format but I'll keep it for tomorrow because I can not say it now with enough reserve as pissed of as I am right now.
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So Drogo just lost 4 qualifiers and the challenger only to qualify in a threeway tie situation, and proceed to win the whole tournament at Katowice just for storyline. Calculated.
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Another sick move by godchio
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that was some Jedi shit right there
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wait how do you end up in a three-way tie in a double elim tournament?
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I hope that 3 players group will end 1-1 for each player and same mapscores =D
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On February 14 2016 04:20 Schelim wrote: wait how do you end up in a three-way tie in a double elim tournament? only 3 people aren't already qualified and they are all eliminated from DE
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RIP Twitch chat on the official channel
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On February 14 2016 04:22 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 04:20 Schelim wrote: wait how do you end up in a three-way tie in a double elim tournament? only 3 people aren't already qualified and they are all eliminated from DE ok i have zero clue what this means (refer to sig) but i'll take your word for it.
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On February 14 2016 04:23 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 04:22 Ej_ wrote:On February 14 2016 04:20 Schelim wrote: wait how do you end up in a three-way tie in a double elim tournament? only 3 people aren't already qualified and they are all eliminated from DE ok i have zero clue what this means (refer to sig) but i'll take your word for it. this is qualifier for WCS tournament for which some of the players had already qualified, they still opted to play in it for monet and WCS points, hence the seeding madness
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Ah main stream said it's Bo3 & map scores matter, unlikely to get more than 1 set of tiebreakers
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Wait was Apollo named Zenith? If so we have the same name
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On February 14 2016 04:24 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 04:23 Schelim wrote:On February 14 2016 04:22 Ej_ wrote:On February 14 2016 04:20 Schelim wrote: wait how do you end up in a three-way tie in a double elim tournament? only 3 people aren't already qualified and they are all eliminated from DE ok i have zero clue what this means (refer to sig) but i'll take your word for it. this is qualifier for WCS tournament for which some of the players had already qualified, they still opted to play in it for monet and WCS points, hence the seeding madness oh like WCS finals or something? i won't ask you how all these players have already qualified for it cause i realise i could just look that up on Liquipedia (and i can't be arsed). i actually watch sc2 for the game nowadays rather than the scene as such, kind of an interesting experience to just give zero fucks why these people are playing against each other and just enjoying the fact they are.
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On February 14 2016 04:25 Nakajin wrote:Wait was Apollo named Zenith? If so we have to same name
I think it was spelled Zennith
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Is there a schedule for the next games?
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On February 14 2016 04:30 D-light wrote: Nerchio on tilt. Apparently he doesn't really win vs MLord on ladder so it's not surprising he's trying to cheese.
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On February 14 2016 04:32 Ej_ wrote:Apparently he doesn't really win vs MLord on ladder so it's not surprising he's trying to cheese. No one wins vs MLorD.
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On February 14 2016 04:33 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 04:32 Ej_ wrote:On February 14 2016 04:30 D-light wrote: Nerchio on tilt. Apparently he doesn't really win vs MLord on ladder so it's not surprising he's trying to cheese. No one wins vs MLorD. Lilbow is his #1 nemesis and he smoked him in this. it's over boys just give him the title
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On February 14 2016 04:24 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 04:23 Schelim wrote:On February 14 2016 04:22 Ej_ wrote:On February 14 2016 04:20 Schelim wrote: wait how do you end up in a three-way tie in a double elim tournament? only 3 people aren't already qualified and they are all eliminated from DE ok i have zero clue what this means (refer to sig) but i'll take your word for it. this is qualifier for WCS tournament for which some of the players had already qualified, they still opted to play in it for monet and WCS points, hence the seeding madness
That's not the players fault. If there is a tournament where there is money AND wcs points to win, I would expect nothing less from them than to try and compete. That's their job.
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On February 14 2016 04:34 Binomyo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 04:24 Ej_ wrote:On February 14 2016 04:23 Schelim wrote:On February 14 2016 04:22 Ej_ wrote:On February 14 2016 04:20 Schelim wrote: wait how do you end up in a three-way tie in a double elim tournament? only 3 people aren't already qualified and they are all eliminated from DE ok i have zero clue what this means (refer to sig) but i'll take your word for it. this is qualifier for WCS tournament for which some of the players had already qualified, they still opted to play in it for monet and WCS points, hence the seeding madness That's not the players fault. If there is a tournament where there is money AND wcs points to win, I would expect nothing less from them than to try and compete. That's their job. ...I never said it was anyone's "fault"
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SCV stuck between the turret and minerals.
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i like how a lot of players that were just decent to kinda good in HotS are now among the very best. seems to happen every time there's a new game.
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why is nerchio off creep?
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On February 14 2016 04:42 Heartland wrote: why is nerchio off creep? fear is a weakness
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On February 14 2016 04:43 Ej_ wrote:fear is a weakness
nerchio is the kwasits haderach?
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On February 14 2016 04:43 Ej_ wrote: that was a WoL moment
flashbacks reemerging
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On February 14 2016 04:45 Heartland wrote: are ultras good enough? it's not about the tool, it's about the artist
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On February 14 2016 04:46 Ej_ wrote:it's not about the tool, it's about the artist
But can any foreigner be considered good, with our without ultras?
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On February 14 2016 04:46 Ej_ wrote:it's not about the tool, it's about the artist
no, it's about the upgrades when it comes to ultras
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absolutely terrible engagement by Nerchio, crashed like 10 banes into a goddamn Thor
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Very strong showing from MlorD today, good good !
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what did Nerchio say at the end? "buff ultras"?
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On February 14 2016 04:53 Schelim wrote: what did Nerchio say at the end? "buff ultras"? nerf ultras
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On February 14 2016 04:53 Schelim wrote: what did Nerchio say at the end? "buff ultras"? "nerf ultras"
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Has twitch been overly laggy for anyone else lately?
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On February 14 2016 04:52 Boucot wrote: Very strong showing from MlorD today, good good !
When you think this guy is thinking about retirement in september, that is a pity. I hope he will be successfull enough to change his mind.
Winner final will be MLord vs Snute or Happy, so hyped !
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On February 14 2016 04:53 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 04:53 Schelim wrote: what did Nerchio say at the end? "buff ultras"? "nerf ultras" i thought i read that, but it made no sense.
EDIT: lol love the production.
*countdown* *coughing*
*queue epic music*
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On February 14 2016 04:56 Binomyo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 04:52 Boucot wrote: Very strong showing from MlorD today, good good ! When you think this guy is thinking about retirement in september, that is a pity. I hope he will be successfull enough to change his mind.
Why is he thinking of retirement? Studies coming up?
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3 minute delay on main stream lol
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On February 14 2016 04:56 Binomyo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 04:52 Boucot wrote: Very strong showing from MlorD today, good good ! When you think this guy is thinking about retirement in september, that is a pity. I hope he will be successfull enough to change his mind. Winner final will be MLord vs Snute or Happy, so hyped ! He just needs to be as good offline as he is online.
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did Happy know that the queen would pop out there that moment? If so that is sick
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On February 14 2016 05:00 Heartland wrote: did Happy know that the queen would pop out there that moment? If so that is sick Ye he does know that, he also knows first lings timing on low ground hatchery but ofcourse not everybody makes the same build order so it doesnt always work
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I hope Happy goes full Happy this game.
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On February 14 2016 05:03 Ej_ wrote: I hope Happy goes full Happy this game.
I hope Happy will be very Happy after this game.
Oh wait, i support Snute.
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I can't tell you how much I want Snute to win this. Please Snute, take it all. :D
Goooo go Snute!
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This should be considered a war crime
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Stuck between a rock and a hard place
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Not even that sad Serral didn't get to play against Happy again.
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On February 14 2016 05:08 Heartland wrote: where is Snute's army?
dead inside overlords
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Happy actually ended this in the mid game. Haven't seen that from him in a while.
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On February 14 2016 05:09 Noonius wrote:dead inside overlords
he had like equal supply with Happy
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that's what we called a stillborn
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lmfao, marinelord finishing the Polish that Hitler left behind
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On February 14 2016 05:11 Skyblueone wrote:lmfao, marinelord finishing the Polish that Hitler left behind classy af
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Happy playing well so far - pleasure to watch
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man, is nobody streaming serral vs elazer?
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On February 14 2016 05:11 Skyblueone wrote:lmfao, marinelord finishing the Polish that Hitler left behind whoever reported this before i had a chance, i appreciate that i'm not the only one with this reaction. and i almost never report anything.
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On February 14 2016 05:14 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 05:11 Skyblueone wrote:lmfao, marinelord finishing the Polish that Hitler left behind whoever reported this before i had a chance, i appreciate that i'm not the only one with this reaction. and i almost never report anything.
*Blows smoke off of revolver* My pleasure
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Snute on 80 drones before 7 minutes :O
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On February 14 2016 05:14 Luolis wrote:man, is nobody streaming serral vs elazer? Game tomorrow.
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Dat SKT Shirt though.
SKT Apollo!!!!!
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zergs ragequitting all day, their ego must hurt realizing they can't even win with their joke race
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On February 14 2016 05:25 Skyblueone wrote: zergs ragequitting all day, their ego must hurt realizing they can't even win with their joke race We are tired of people saying ultralisks are imba when it's the only "good" unit zerg has :D
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Skyblueone really wanted to get banned today
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On February 14 2016 05:28 Heartland wrote: Skyblueone really wanted to get banned today mission accomplished
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dying to a +1 marine/tank all-in is so 2011
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ugh Happy walked into biles
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That's weird, Dayshi vs Lilbow will be played now. That's the 3d Millenium teamkill of the day by the way.
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On February 14 2016 05:33 Boucot wrote:That's weird, Dayshi vs Lilbow will be played now. That's the 3d Millenium teamkill of the day by the way. Millenium's problem is that they sign too many players. Mionix never had a team-kill.
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On February 14 2016 05:34 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 05:33 Boucot wrote:That's weird, Dayshi vs Lilbow will be played now. That's the 3d Millenium teamkill of the day by the way. Millenium's problem is that they sign too many players. Mionix never had a team-kill.
they should loan some to EG to make NA ladder matter again
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On February 14 2016 05:34 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 05:33 Boucot wrote:That's weird, Dayshi vs Lilbow will be played now. That's the 3d Millenium teamkill of the day by the way. Millenium's problem is that they sign too many players. Mionix never had a team-kill. Legendary team
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Production tab disparity shows how this game is going.
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is this the last series of the day?
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Is it really smart to be so passive as Snute is being?
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Such a pain to play against liberators
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On February 14 2016 05:34 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 05:33 Boucot wrote:That's weird, Dayshi vs Lilbow will be played now. That's the 3d Millenium teamkill of the day by the way. Millenium's problem is that they sign too many players. Mionix never had a team-kill.
Millenium problem is that they have too many french players. Too many in the top 16 .
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all these liberation zones are true ambrosia
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I just tuned in. I shouldn't have expected anything else from Happy.
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is this the terran version of BL/infestor?
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On February 14 2016 06:04 Noonius wrote: is this the terran version of BL/infestor?
no this is the bio version of mech
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I imagine Happy is the happiest he's ever been.
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haha kaelaris is so cute sometimes
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On February 14 2016 06:04 Noonius wrote: is this the terran version of BL/infestor?
It´s mad skills and awesome micro.
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They should just make those liberation zones into happy faces
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and now snute has no larvae
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Ok now I am fully not sad that Serral didn't have to play against Happy by beating Snute,
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ah but zerg late game is too strong cant beat it
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On February 14 2016 06:06 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:ah but zerg late game is too strong cant beat it ye so strong x)
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yea just fucking scan early game
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Well that was a crazy game.
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Seriously, how do you crack that? Snute had 7k7k and 0 ideas on what to do with it
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Terrans all over the world must be so mad at Happy. Uthermal was preachig these days how cross position on this map is an auto loss vs zerg .
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On February 14 2016 06:07 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Seriously, how do you crack that? Snute had 7k7k and 0 ideas on what to do with it Could vipers be used to pull the libs ? Though with the range upgrade they do look pretty retarded
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Ah, I'm so sad. I want Snute to win so much. =/
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On February 14 2016 06:07 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Seriously, how do you crack that? Snute had 7k7k and 0 ideas on what to do with it
maybe use that 10 minute window where he was 70 supply ahead to make something happen instead of watching happy take all the map
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TvT winner bracket finals, bet everyone saw that coming
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On February 14 2016 06:07 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Seriously, how do you crack that? Snute had 7k7k and 0 ideas on what to do with it
I think we need to give players some time to figure things out and let the meta develop
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On February 14 2016 06:07 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Seriously, how do you crack that? Snute had 7k7k and 0 ideas on what to do with it
Couldn't he just attack one of happy's expands with his whole army when he had like 70 more supply and 4k minerals/gas? It seems like snute just waited too long
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On February 14 2016 06:08 Hurricaned wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 06:07 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Seriously, how do you crack that? Snute had 7k7k and 0 ideas on what to do with it maybe use that 10 minute window where he was 70 supply ahead to make something happen instead of watching happy take all the map The classic don´t let them get there solution.
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On February 14 2016 06:08 Hurricaned wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 06:07 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Seriously, how do you crack that? Snute had 7k7k and 0 ideas on what to do with it maybe use that 10 minute window where he was 70 supply ahead to make something happen instead of watching happy take all the map Well I didn't see that part of the game, I guess that'd be a good time to do something.
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On February 14 2016 06:07 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Seriously, how do you crack that? Snute had 7k7k and 0 ideas on what to do with it
Well to be fair, he had a lot of time when he was 80 supply ahead and did absolutly nothing. But yeah, it seems like super late game, terran is a tiny bit favored.
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I don't get Snute's obession with ravagers all game long, they are good early on, but suck overall later in the game imo.
Just cracklings would destroy ghosts right? And you can just run around the libs with lings. Maybe add some banes.
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On February 14 2016 06:10 Musicus wrote: I don't get Snute's obession with ravagers all game long, they are good early on, but suck overall later in the game imo.
Just cracklings would destroy ghosts right? And you can just run around the libs with lings. Maybe add some banes.
Yep that would also have helped to deny happy taking almost every available base on the map
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On February 14 2016 06:10 Musicus wrote: I don't get Snute's obession with ravagers all game long, they are good early on, but suck overall later in the game imo.
Just cracklings would destroy ghosts right? And you can just run around the libs with lings. Maybe add some banes. ghosts 2 shot lings unfortuntely
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This is what happens when you let happy take the 9th base without harassing
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On February 14 2016 06:11 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 06:10 Musicus wrote: I don't get Snute's obession with ravagers all game long, they are good early on, but suck overall later in the game imo.
Just cracklings would destroy ghosts right? And you can just run around the libs with lings. Maybe add some banes. ghosts 2 shot lings unfortuntely Zerg can insta remax to no end according to TL balance thread.
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On February 14 2016 06:08 Musicus wrote:Terrans all over the world must be so mad at Happy. Uthermal was preachig these days how cross position on this map is an auto loss vs zerg .
It's not an auto loss but favors one race over another.
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How Snute get 211 supply anyway, bunch of extractor cancels?
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On February 14 2016 06:07 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Seriously, how do you crack that? Snute had 7k7k and 0 ideas on what to do with it
Would mass spores/spines and maybe swarmhost viper or some other combination of units work? It seems that the problem is that there is not enough detection, and liberators don't harm buildings, so the only threat of the ghost/liberator ultra late game would be the ghosts and nukes.
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On February 14 2016 06:12 RaFox17 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 06:11 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:On February 14 2016 06:10 Musicus wrote: I don't get Snute's obession with ravagers all game long, they are good early on, but suck overall later in the game imo.
Just cracklings would destroy ghosts right? And you can just run around the libs with lings. Maybe add some banes. ghosts 2 shot lings unfortuntely Zerg can insta remax to no end according to TL balance thread.
With 7k mins and 7k gas, Snute could have gotten a few crack lings at least
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On February 14 2016 06:14 riotjune wrote: How Snute get 211 supply anyway, bunch of extractor cancels? probably spores or something, since it's kinda hard to move your drones to that many free bases at once, but building cancelling, yeah.
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On February 14 2016 06:11 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 06:10 Musicus wrote: I don't get Snute's obession with ravagers all game long, they are good early on, but suck overall later in the game imo.
Just cracklings would destroy ghosts right? And you can just run around the libs with lings. Maybe add some banes. ghosts 2 shot lings unfortuntely
Yeah but their attack speed is so low, 100 lings should still beat 20 ghosts right? Maybe add 20 banes. Liberators can't kill your buildings so I think just going ling/bling can be good vs ghost/lib. I just think anything would be better than ravager, they just get sniped and do nothing. Lings at least keep cancel the steady targeting.
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On February 14 2016 06:11 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 06:10 Musicus wrote: I don't get Snute's obession with ravagers all game long, they are good early on, but suck overall later in the game imo.
Just cracklings would destroy ghosts right? And you can just run around the libs with lings. Maybe add some banes. ghosts 2 shot lings unfortuntely
Yeah but once you manage to kill the ghosts with ling/bane, it's a great trade right?
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On February 14 2016 06:13 Deathstar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 06:08 Musicus wrote:Terrans all over the world must be so mad at Happy. Uthermal was preachig these days how cross position on this map is an auto loss vs zerg . It's not an auto loss but favors one race over another.
I definitely agree, but uthermal does not.
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On February 14 2016 06:14 FrkFrJss wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 06:07 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Seriously, how do you crack that? Snute had 7k7k and 0 ideas on what to do with it Would mass spores/spines and maybe swarmhost viper or some other combination of units work? It seems that the problem is that there is not enough detection, and liberators don't harm buildings, so the only threat of the ghost/liberator ultra late game would be the ghosts and nukes. I just went to check if ghosts could snipe spores and snipes and I learned that the ability is called "Steady Targeting" not snipe. TIL
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aww, kaelaris, you big nerd
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On February 14 2016 06:16 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 06:13 Deathstar wrote:On February 14 2016 06:08 Musicus wrote:Terrans all over the world must be so mad at Happy. Uthermal was preachig these days how cross position on this map is an auto loss vs zerg . It's not an auto loss but favors one race over another. I definitely agree, but uthermal does not.
uthermal is just passionate. Unfortunately he might be switching to protoss ;;
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On February 14 2016 06:14 FrkFrJss wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 06:07 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Seriously, how do you crack that? Snute had 7k7k and 0 ideas on what to do with it Would mass spores/spines and maybe swarmhost viper or some other combination of units work?
lol
imo the best solution is corruptors viper for the liberators and infestator baneling for the ghosts and try to go around the siege zones obviously. At some point snute sent a bunch of roaches and it forced the whole happy army back. He could juste have played around that to catch him up unsieged but instead he prefered to fight head on
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everyone making nukes now? lol
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On February 14 2016 06:30 riotjune wrote: everyone making nukes now? lol
Nukes good unit! An very entertaining imo.
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Is Happy really winning games haha?
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Lots of tempest builds on this map.
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Lilbow has been playing better and better in the last weeks, that's good.
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Lilbows macro is so incredible bad
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On February 14 2016 06:55 Paljas wrote: Lilbows macro is so incredible bad Floating 3000 minerals...
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terran hope is also a guy who has trouble making scvs. We expected this -_-
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those widow mine shots were important for Dayshi
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The twitch chat is so annoying, Lilbow (last seasons WCS winner) beats a zerg and a terran who didn't even get into any wcs season in 2015 and protoss is already being called imba =P (and the series vs dayshi is not even over) Now I know how orc players in wc3 felt like
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On February 14 2016 07:00 ossavi09 wrote:The twitch chat is so annoying, Lilbow (last seasons WCS winner) beats a zerg and a terran who didn't even get into any wcs season in 2015 and protoss is already being called imba =P (and the series vs dayshi is not even over) Now I know how orc players in wc3 felt like orc players? we were underpowered against human and nightelf for like 3 years straight man
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On February 14 2016 07:00 ossavi09 wrote:The twitch chat is so annoying, Lilbow (last seasons WCS winner) beats a zerg and a terran who didn't even get into any wcs season in 2015 and protoss is already being called imba =P (and the series vs dayshi is not even over) Now I know how orc players in wc3 felt like
Isn't it twitch chat's job though to call any race that is currently winning on stream imba?
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I missed so many great games today FeelsBadMan.
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if he hadnt lost the first reaper, he really could have done game ending damage
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On February 14 2016 07:02 ArtyK wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 07:00 ossavi09 wrote:The twitch chat is so annoying, Lilbow (last seasons WCS winner) beats a zerg and a terran who didn't even get into any wcs season in 2015 and protoss is already being called imba =P (and the series vs dayshi is not even over) Now I know how orc players in wc3 felt like Isn't it twitch chat's job though to call any race that is currently winning on stream imba?
well, they just made the usual jokes like "lilbow already practicing for game xy" and "protoss cant micro" =P
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On February 14 2016 07:02 ArtyK wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 07:00 ossavi09 wrote:The twitch chat is so annoying, Lilbow (last seasons WCS winner) beats a zerg and a terran who didn't even get into any wcs season in 2015 and protoss is already being called imba =P (and the series vs dayshi is not even over) Now I know how orc players in wc3 felt like Isn't it twitch chat's job though to call any race that is currently winning on stream imba?
The general consensus of twitch chat is more right than wrong
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lilbow is doing what works, spamming one type of unit.
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liked the game, even if it wasn't ZvX
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lol pretty good French accent there
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I really hate the fact that 99% of all players spoiler the results by tweeting /=
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thats the most protoss thing i've ever seen
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On February 14 2016 07:12 Paljas wrote: thats the most protoss thing i've ever seen pretty much
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Last game looked like pro gamer vs diamond.
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Are somewhere ratings of individual games like we have with GSL/SSL. Or were there any good games one should watch from today or past several days of these EU/NA tourneys? Thank you
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What happened to Serral vs Elazer?
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On February 14 2016 08:05 ZeRoX_TV wrote: What happened to Serral vs Elazer?
It will be played tomorrow.
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On February 14 2016 08:07 ArtyK wrote:It will be played tomorrow.
Ohh, thx.
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Not sure why 3rd and 4th are getting same money. Since they are playing in double elimn, 3rd won one more Bo3 (exactly vs 4th). 3rd $850 and 4th $750 is fine enough.
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Is there a good explanation post of what are those challenger/qualifier stuff happening last 3-4week. The games are cool to watch but i have no freaking idea why we watch the exact same players battleing on what seems to be several same format to qualify to the wcs main event. And side note where did dayshi qualify ??? I follow a lot of starcraft and its the first time i seriously dont understand the qualifying process of a main event
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On February 14 2016 19:22 klup wrote: Is there a good explanation post of what are those challenger/qualifier stuff happening last 3-4week. The games are cool to watch but i have no freaking idea why we watch the exact same players battleing on what seems to be several same format to qualify to the wcs main event. And side note where did dayshi qualify ??? I follow a lot of starcraft and its the first time i seriously dont understand the qualifying process of a main event
It is a bit complicated, especially since the wikipedia doesn't have a comprehensive qualifier page, but basically there have been 3 EU qualifiers if I understand this correctly: 1. online (open to everyone), 2. national and 3. online (open to top 16 on the EU ladder)
EDIT: and yes, Dayshi qualified yesterday, because there were only 4 / 16 that hadn't qualified already, and Dayshi made it further in the winner bracket than any of the others.
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On February 14 2016 19:22 klup wrote: Is there a good explanation post of what are those challenger/qualifier stuff happening last 3-4week. The games are cool to watch but i have no freaking idea why we watch the exact same players battleing on what seems to be several same format to qualify to the wcs main event. And side note where did dayshi qualify ??? I follow a lot of starcraft and its the first time i seriously dont understand the qualifying process of a main event ...summing it up: WCS has a new qualifying/invite system: 8 players from Regional Challengers: 2 slots for Europe, Africa and the Middle East 2 slots for North America (USA and Canada) 1 slot for Latin America 1 slot for China 1 slot for Oceania, Southeast Asia and Japan 1 slot for Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau 14 players from Server Qualifiers: 8 slots for EU Server Qualifier 6 slots for NA Server Qualifier 2 players from National Qualifier 8 invites from 2015 WCS Standings
Regional Challengers are region-locked tournaments that give 8 slots (in total) for the main event: in Europe and NA regions these are ladder-related with the top 16 battling for 2 and 2 spots. In the other regions the spots are given following the results of a region-locked tournament (Copa America, GPL, own format for TW/HK, open bracket + 4 invites for SEA...); Server Qualifiers are EU and NA region-locked open brackets that allowed respectively 8 and 6 players to qualify for the main event; National Qualifier is a country-locked qualifier that gives 2 slots for the main event and it is limited to the players representing the country in which the main event will take place (Poland in this case); invites from 2015 WCS Standings are 8 invite-slots given according to the last year WCS standing (excluding Koreans which are not eligible to play in the WCS Circuit).
Unfortunately, being the first time for it, some things went a little weird and Server Qualifiers took place before the Regional Challengers (the ladder related ones for EU and NA) which caused a lot of players to be already qualified and battling it "only" for money and WCS points and not really for the spots in the main event (that most of them already obtained in the previous qualifiers). From the next time, at least if I got this correctly, the order should be swapped so the Regional Challenger should have more "value" and less chaos for the seedings since Server Qualifiers do not have a prize pool or wcs points to battle for (so unuseful for who will already be qualified).
Dayshi is qualified because everyone "ahead of him" in the EU Regional Qualifier has already qualified in the previous qualifying-events.
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On February 14 2016 20:33 CynicalDeath wrote: ...summing it up:
Thanks - so that are 12 different ways to qualify. And in some of these qualifyings we saw the same players again and again. And in the last "qualifying" 12 of the players were already qualified.
Well, looks quite complicated.
I always look for events which I can recommend to friends not familiar with SC2 (but with interest in RTS). DH? Too unpredictable, starting late, showing "next game soon" most of the time. These qualifyings? Even the regular viewers got confused. So what's left? Maybe BTTV, exciting games and a reliable broadcast.
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On February 15 2016 00:27 FrostPilot wrote:Thanks - so that are 12 different ways to qualify. And in some of these qualifyings we saw the same players again and again. And in the last "qualifying" 12 of the players were already qualified. Well, looks quite complicated. I always look for events which I can recommend to friends not familiar with SC2 (but with interest in RTS). DH? Too unpredictable, starting late, showing "next game soon" most of the time. These qualifyings? Even the regular viewers got confused. So what's left? Maybe BTTV, exciting games and a reliable broadcast.
Since this is the first competition following the format, things are probably extra confusing. Maybe it would make sense to start with the ladder qualification next time.
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On February 15 2016 00:27 FrostPilot wrote: These qualifyings? Even the regular viewers got confused.
The event in itself isn't confusing, it's how it goes together with other events that can be (and it mostly can be because we're too lazy to open liquipedia and see how it works)
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So let´s see which player can grab the last spot for katowice.
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wow Apollo wearing a KT hoodie. what a traitor
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On February 15 2016 01:13 Inflicted wrote: wow Apollo wearing a KT hoodie. what a traitor
I'm triggered
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apollo on a lot of people's shitlist now
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At this stage, I have completely given up on following this gauntlet of qualifiers. But why not just watch some SC2 when I have nothing better to do (and it comes with ESL commentary).
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Perfect game by Drogo so far.
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The funniest thing about this was when my wife asked me, what is this qualifier for and I had no bloody idea. "But you spend the whole day on TL, how come you not know?!".
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Something is wrong with the observer, maybe they are broadcasting the wrong screen? It's hard to watch really..
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On February 15 2016 01:26 Aeromi wrote: Perfect game by Drogo so far. Bad game by Zanster. He knew phoenix were out, didn't make any spores, kept his queens away from spores, and despite losing tens of drones + a whole bunch of ovis to the phoenix refused to make more than one spore per base.
On February 15 2016 01:28 VHbb wrote: Something is wrong with the observer, maybe they are broadcasting the wrong screen? It's hard to watch really.. Indeed.
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lilbow too easy for Snute
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right now i dont like how Protoss mass Immortals it but i guess they dont have another option
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how much is Apollo getting paid to push that gear?
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On February 15 2016 01:33 Noonius wrote: how much is Apollo getting paid to push that gear?
Not enough.
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A bad observer, wearing hoodies and T-shirts, two blatantly tired casters. Professionalism is SC2 these days man...
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On February 15 2016 01:29 Inflicted wrote: Hahaha that Lilbow salt My favorite dish!
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On February 15 2016 01:34 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: A bad observer, wearing hoodies and T-shirts, two blatantly tired casters. Professionalism is SC2 these days man...
It's the toxic fan attitude seeping in.
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Wtf is this, I'm seeing Zerg but hearing Protoss sounds.
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I totally agree with Kaelaris...
What is ESL doing??
It is not even obvious on their own website. I had to check for a bit before i found the store page.
Some of the apparel on their store is definitely desirable. They really should be putting in more effort in marketing.
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On February 15 2016 01:28 VHbb wrote: Something is wrong with the observer, maybe they are broadcasting the wrong screen? It's hard to watch really..
If it weren't for this post, I would have no idea what is Kalearis sorry for right now. Here you can see my high standards for observing
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not looking good for Snute to 3-0
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On February 15 2016 01:39 Shellshock wrote:not looking good for Snute to 3-0 Does Snute even care about the game anymore? No passion.
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I spotted a very juicy artosis pylon
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looks like Snute is gonna take it vs Lilbow
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throw by Snute incoming...
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Luckily, SC2 is probably not watched by very old people, as calling it "Katowitz" may be a little insulting to some.
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lol nvm guess Lilbow had it all along
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I'm confused. How come Snute is playing in these qualifiers, when he is already qualified for the winter championship due 2015 WCS standings?
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On February 15 2016 01:55 Propelled wrote: I'm confused. How come Snute is playing in these qualifiers, when he is already qualified for the winter championship due 2015 WCS standings? because you can still win money and WCS points here
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I'll be quite annoyed if Lilbow beats Snute in a reverse sweep
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On February 15 2016 01:56 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 01:55 Propelled wrote: I'm confused. How come Snute is playing in these qualifiers, when he is already qualified for the winter championship due 2015 WCS standings? because you can still win money and WCS points here Thanks
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wow Lilbow got rekt there
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i thought snute was dead w00t!
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Good good good good good good good good good game
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How is there a three-way tie in an elimination bracket? What the hell are they talking about?
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On February 15 2016 02:20 opisska wrote: How is there a three-way tie in an elimination bracket? What the hell are they talking about?
game is just so balanced that they needed to play some extra maps
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On February 15 2016 02:20 opisska wrote: How is there a three-way tie in an elimination bracket? What the hell are they talking about? because everybody in this tournament except for these 3 guys is already qualified for *something* that has to do with WCS which this is a qualifier for and they all died in the first round so now they have to face each other to see who advances.
that's how much i understood anyways.
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On February 15 2016 02:20 opisska wrote: How is there a three-way tie in an elimination bracket? What the hell are they talking about? Bly, Zanster and Drogo went out in the same round of LB so they are playing for the second spot at IEM.
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On February 15 2016 02:20 opisska wrote: How is there a three-way tie in an elimination bracket? What the hell are they talking about?
It´s for the qualification for IEM. Drogo, Zanster and Bly are fighting for the last spot left. Thats currently happening seperated from the actual challenger tournament.
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On February 15 2016 02:20 opisska wrote: How is there a three-way tie in an elimination bracket? What the hell are they talking about? this tournament and the qualifying slots aren't tied (yep, it's stupid)
only 4 players were eligible for a slot, Dayshi got the first one by advancing farther than the others, the three others failed at the same round and are therefor tied for the last slot this was expected
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Thanks, that's funny
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On February 15 2016 02:23 miniskirt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 02:20 opisska wrote: How is there a three-way tie in an elimination bracket? What the hell are they talking about? this tournament and the qualifying slots aren't tied (yep, it's stupid) only 4 players were eligible for a slot, Dayshi got the first one by advancing farther than the others, the three others failed at the same round and are therefor tied for the last slot this was expected
the spots are tied but the other 12 guys are already qualified so the spots wander down the whole bracket util someone can fill them.
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In before the final seed gets decided by coinflip
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Looks like Drogo qualifies
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On February 15 2016 02:32 Inflicted wrote: Looks like Drogo qualifies It's 1-1 right now.
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On February 15 2016 02:33 Aeromi wrote:It's 1-1 right now.
He'll be 3-2 at worst so he wins on maps hm wait Bly can 2-0 nvm but Zanster is out I think
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On February 15 2016 02:35 Inflicted wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 02:33 Aeromi wrote:On February 15 2016 02:32 Inflicted wrote: Looks like Drogo qualifies It's 1-1 right now. He'll be 3-2 at worst so he wins on maps hm wait Bly can 2-0 nvm :D
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On February 15 2016 02:35 Inflicted wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 02:33 Aeromi wrote:On February 15 2016 02:32 Inflicted wrote: Looks like Drogo qualifies It's 1-1 right now. He'll be 3-2 at worst so he wins on maps
But what if bly wins against zanster and 2-1 drogo? He wins overall...
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On February 15 2016 02:35 Inflicted wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 02:33 Aeromi wrote:On February 15 2016 02:32 Inflicted wrote: Looks like Drogo qualifies It's 1-1 right now. He'll be 3-2 at worst so he wins on maps But if Bly wins game 3 and beats Zanster he'll be at 2-0 on match score which should trump everything
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On February 15 2016 02:35 Inflicted wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 02:33 Aeromi wrote:On February 15 2016 02:32 Inflicted wrote: Looks like Drogo qualifies It's 1-1 right now. He'll be 3-2 at worst so he wins on maps hm wait Bly can 2-0 nvm
bly can 2-1 both and still advance
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On February 15 2016 02:35 Inflicted wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 02:33 Aeromi wrote:On February 15 2016 02:32 Inflicted wrote: Looks like Drogo qualifies It's 1-1 right now. He'll be 3-2 at worst so he wins on maps I think the map average doesn't matter. So far at least.
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So it's either Bly wins both series & qualifies or Drogo does. Zanster can't
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On February 15 2016 02:36 Inflicted wrote: So it's either Bly wins both series & qualifies or Drogo does. Zanster can't
You have to win 2 series in a row so zanster is technically not out
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On February 15 2016 02:37 ArtyK wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 02:36 Inflicted wrote: So it's either Bly wins both series & qualifies or Drogo does. Zanster can't You have to win 2 series in a row so zanster is technically not out
If it's all 1-1, it goes to map score and Drogo will be 3-2. Zanster can go 2-2 at best
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On February 15 2016 02:37 Inflicted wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 02:37 ArtyK wrote:On February 15 2016 02:36 Inflicted wrote: So it's either Bly wins both series & qualifies or Drogo does. Zanster can't You have to win 2 series in a row so zanster is technically not out If it's all 1-1, it goes to map score and Drogo will be 3-2. Zanster can go 2-2 at best Maybe a reset of the tie breaker if they are all at 1-1.
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On February 15 2016 02:38 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 02:37 Inflicted wrote:On February 15 2016 02:37 ArtyK wrote:On February 15 2016 02:36 Inflicted wrote: So it's either Bly wins both series & qualifies or Drogo does. Zanster can't You have to win 2 series in a row so zanster is technically not out If it's all 1-1, it goes to map score and Drogo will be 3-2. Zanster can go 2-2 at best Maybe a reset of the tie breaker if they are all at 1-1.
They said it's map score if it's 1-1. Reset if they're all the same map score
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what the hell is Bly even doing
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I do not understand ... what is this game? Bly vs Drogo? Is this the loser's bracket of the loser's bracket?
They are both out, aren't they?
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Drogo better beat Bly. Given that Zanster is already out, I doubt he'd be really motivated in his match against Bly.
On February 15 2016 02:47 Diabolique wrote: I do not understand ... what is this game? Bly vs Drogo? Is this the loser's bracket of the loser's bracket?
They are both out, aren't they? C'mon, it's been explained like 10 times in this thread :/
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On February 15 2016 02:47 Diabolique wrote: I do not understand ... what is this game? Bly vs Drogo? Is this the loser's bracket of the loser's bracket?
They are both out, aren't they? This is the 'we still need to invite someone to IEM' subtournament
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On February 15 2016 02:47 Diabolique wrote: I do not understand ... what is this game? Bly vs Drogo? Is this the loser's bracket of the loser's bracket?
They are both out, aren't they? There's one Katowice spot left and since others were already qualified, we have tiebreaker.
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On February 15 2016 02:48 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 02:47 Diabolique wrote: I do not understand ... what is this game? Bly vs Drogo? Is this the loser's bracket of the loser's bracket?
They are both out, aren't they? This is the 'we still need to invite someone to IEM' subtournament Oh, so it means, they lost in the losers bracket, so they are out, but this is like a fight for "being invited"???
OK, I see, good for them! But somehow funny these WCS rules :-)
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On February 15 2016 02:47 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 02:47 Diabolique wrote: I do not understand ... what is this game? Bly vs Drogo? Is this the loser's bracket of the loser's bracket?
They are both out, aren't they? C'mon, it's been explained like 10 times in this thread :/ C'mon it's not like he could somehow search for the answer in the time he has wrote the question... and then wait for someone to spend time to answer the question.
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okay I was wrong, Bly, why did u threw it away?
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On February 15 2016 02:32 Inflicted wrote: Looks like Drogo qualifies
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On February 15 2016 02:53 Inflicted wrote: :D
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On February 15 2016 02:53 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:okay I was wrong, Bly, why did u threw it away? Protoss late game still pretty good
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guy with good pvz beats zergs to qualify. surprised he lost to Lambo in the LB though
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On February 15 2016 02:54 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 02:53 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:okay I was wrong, Bly, why did u threw it away? Protoss late game still pretty good Every races late game is good if you go into it with a significant lead
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On February 15 2016 02:52 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 02:47 Boucot wrote:On February 15 2016 02:47 Diabolique wrote: I do not understand ... what is this game? Bly vs Drogo? Is this the loser's bracket of the loser's bracket?
They are both out, aren't they? C'mon, it's been explained like 10 times in this thread :/ C'mon it's not like he could somehow search for the answer in the time he has wrote the question... and then wait for someone to spend time to answer the question. Sorry, I was not reading the thread, I just turned on the ESL.tv game, looked at liquipedia and did not understand, what a tie breaker means ...
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On February 15 2016 02:55 Shellshock wrote: guy with good pvz beats zergs to qualify. surprised he lost to Lambo in the LB though
Seems like pressure from winning DH got to him yesterday, the Lambo match wasn't streamed but he played really badly agaisnt marinelord
Happy to see him manage to compose himself today
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On February 15 2016 02:55 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 02:52 D-light wrote:On February 15 2016 02:47 Boucot wrote:On February 15 2016 02:47 Diabolique wrote: I do not understand ... what is this game? Bly vs Drogo? Is this the loser's bracket of the loser's bracket?
They are both out, aren't they? C'mon, it's been explained like 10 times in this thread :/ C'mon it's not like he could somehow search for the answer in the time he has wrote the question... and then wait for someone to spend time to answer the question. Sorry, I was not reading the thread, I just turned on the ESL.tv game, looked at liquipedia and did not understand, what a tie breaker means ... don't worry about it, i asked the same question yesterday. due to the fact i don't pay much attention to the scene anymore, i still don't really understand why there is a tournament called WCS Regional Challengers that qualifies you for an IEM (rather than a WCS event), or why they would have 12 players that are already qualified for said IEM play in it, but whatever.
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2 frenchies for the last 2 places, the Big 5 goes to Poland !
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On February 15 2016 02:57 Schelim wrote:there is a tournament called WCS Regional Challengers that qualifies you for an IEM (rather than a WCS event)
the IEM tournament is the WCS event nowadays
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On February 15 2016 02:57 Boucot wrote: 2 frenchies for the last 2 places, the Big 5 goes to Poland ! Underdog Monthly Finals to be played at Katowice!
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On February 15 2016 02:57 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 02:55 Diabolique wrote:On February 15 2016 02:52 D-light wrote:On February 15 2016 02:47 Boucot wrote:On February 15 2016 02:47 Diabolique wrote: I do not understand ... what is this game? Bly vs Drogo? Is this the loser's bracket of the loser's bracket?
They are both out, aren't they? C'mon, it's been explained like 10 times in this thread :/ C'mon it's not like he could somehow search for the answer in the time he has wrote the question... and then wait for someone to spend time to answer the question. Sorry, I was not reading the thread, I just turned on the ESL.tv game, looked at liquipedia and did not understand, what a tie breaker means ... don't worry about it, i asked the same question yesterday. due to the fact i don't pay much attention to the scene anymore, i still don't really understand why there is a tournament called WCS Regional Challengers that qualifies you for an IEM (rather than a WCS event), or why they would have 12 players that are already qualified for said IEM play in it, but whatever.
IEM Katowice = WCS Winter, it's part of both systems and they keep alternating the name they use
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On February 15 2016 02:55 Shellshock wrote: guy with good pvz beats zergs to qualify. surprised he lost to Lambo in the LB though I mean he also lost quite a few pvz's in the qualifiers in the past couple of weeks.
Good for him on figuring it out a bit in the last second.
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Happy must be quite happy after this start
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hahahaha, that mine killing was something known only from legends until know
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Easy mine clear
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On February 15 2016 02:57 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 02:55 Diabolique wrote:On February 15 2016 02:52 D-light wrote:On February 15 2016 02:47 Boucot wrote:On February 15 2016 02:47 Diabolique wrote: I do not understand ... what is this game? Bly vs Drogo? Is this the loser's bracket of the loser's bracket?
They are both out, aren't they? C'mon, it's been explained like 10 times in this thread :/ C'mon it's not like he could somehow search for the answer in the time he has wrote the question... and then wait for someone to spend time to answer the question. Sorry, I was not reading the thread, I just turned on the ESL.tv game, looked at liquipedia and did not understand, what a tie breaker means ... don't worry about it, i asked the same question yesterday. due to the fact i don't pay much attention to the scene anymore, i still don't really understand why there is a tournament called WCS Regional Challengers that qualifies you for an IEM (rather than a WCS event), or why they would have 12 players that are already qualified for said IEM play in it, but whatever. Yes .. well said ... I observe the scene, I knew, there were like 3 different qualifier tournaments and then i saw, there is another qualifier tournament this weekend, so that all the players, who did not manage to qualify, have ANOTHER chance to qualify and was quite sad for Ptit Drogo that he is out when he lost yesterday in the winners bracket and I thought, this poor guy, did lose in all the qualification tournaments before and now, he has the last chance - he must win the loser's bracket ... but he lost ... sad for him :-(
And then I see, while there are all the RO4 matches still going on, in both the winner's and loser's brackets, there is ANOTHER "tournament"=tie breaker, where Ptit Drogo plays ... and I just ask, what is it? And then I hear, this is a mini tournament for ANOTHER qualification ... quite funny.
I am really happy for Drogo, he is a good guy, but when I see, how the Koreans have ZERO chance to qualify for any good foreign tournament with good prize money ... HerO out, TaeJa out, all the others retired, and then I see, not only did WCS grant huge money for the foreigners, but also it introduced 21 possibilities for everyone to qualify - this just a joke. When I see, that e.g. sOs will have practically zero chance to qualify for BlizzCon this year and then I see this ... PATHETIC!
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On February 15 2016 03:08 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 02:57 Schelim wrote:On February 15 2016 02:55 Diabolique wrote:On February 15 2016 02:52 D-light wrote:On February 15 2016 02:47 Boucot wrote:On February 15 2016 02:47 Diabolique wrote: I do not understand ... what is this game? Bly vs Drogo? Is this the loser's bracket of the loser's bracket?
They are both out, aren't they? C'mon, it's been explained like 10 times in this thread :/ C'mon it's not like he could somehow search for the answer in the time he has wrote the question... and then wait for someone to spend time to answer the question. Sorry, I was not reading the thread, I just turned on the ESL.tv game, looked at liquipedia and did not understand, what a tie breaker means ... don't worry about it, i asked the same question yesterday. due to the fact i don't pay much attention to the scene anymore, i still don't really understand why there is a tournament called WCS Regional Challengers that qualifies you for an IEM (rather than a WCS event), or why they would have 12 players that are already qualified for said IEM play in it, but whatever. Yes .. well said ... I observe the scene, I knew, there were like 3 different qualifier tournaments and then i saw, there is another qualifier tournament this weekend, so that all the players, who did not manage to qualify, have ANOTHER chance to qualify and was quite sad for Ptit Drogo that he is out when he lost yesteray in the winners bracket and I thought, this poor guy, did lose in all the qualification tournaments before and now, he has the last chance - he must win the loser's bracket ... but he lost ... sad for him :-( And then I see, while there are all the RO4 matches still going on, in both the winner's and loser's bracket, there is ANOTHER tournament, where Ptit Drogo plays ... and I just ask, what is it? And then I hear, this is a mini tournament for ANOTHER qualification ... quite funny. I am really happy for Drogo, he is a good guy, but when I see, how the Koreans have ZERO chance to qualify at any good foreign tournament with good prize money ... HerO out, TaeJa out, all the others retired, and then I see, not only did WCS grant huge money for the foreigners, but also it introduced 21 possibilities for everyone to qualify - this just a joke. When I see, that e.g. sOs will have practically zero chance to qualify for BlizzCon this year and then I see this ... PATHETIC! Calm down, SC2 is alive again!
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On February 15 2016 03:09 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 03:08 Diabolique wrote:On February 15 2016 02:57 Schelim wrote:On February 15 2016 02:55 Diabolique wrote:On February 15 2016 02:52 D-light wrote:On February 15 2016 02:47 Boucot wrote:On February 15 2016 02:47 Diabolique wrote: I do not understand ... what is this game? Bly vs Drogo? Is this the loser's bracket of the loser's bracket?
They are both out, aren't they? C'mon, it's been explained like 10 times in this thread :/ C'mon it's not like he could somehow search for the answer in the time he has wrote the question... and then wait for someone to spend time to answer the question. Sorry, I was not reading the thread, I just turned on the ESL.tv game, looked at liquipedia and did not understand, what a tie breaker means ... don't worry about it, i asked the same question yesterday. due to the fact i don't pay much attention to the scene anymore, i still don't really understand why there is a tournament called WCS Regional Challengers that qualifies you for an IEM (rather than a WCS event), or why they would have 12 players that are already qualified for said IEM play in it, but whatever. Yes .. well said ... I observe the scene, I knew, there were like 3 different qualifier tournaments and then i saw, there is another qualifier tournament this weekend, so that all the players, who did not manage to qualify, have ANOTHER chance to qualify and was quite sad for Ptit Drogo that he is out when he lost yesteray in the winners bracket and I thought, this poor guy, did lose in all the qualification tournaments before and now, he has the last chance - he must win the loser's bracket ... but he lost ... sad for him :-( And then I see, while there are all the RO4 matches still going on, in both the winner's and loser's bracket, there is ANOTHER tournament, where Ptit Drogo plays ... and I just ask, what is it? And then I hear, this is a mini tournament for ANOTHER qualification ... quite funny. I am really happy for Drogo, he is a good guy, but when I see, how the Koreans have ZERO chance to qualify at any good foreign tournament with good prize money ... HerO out, TaeJa out, all the others retired, and then I see, not only did WCS grant huge money for the foreigners, but also it introduced 21 possibilities for everyone to qualify - this just a joke. When I see, that e.g. sOs will have practically zero chance to qualify for BlizzCon this year and then I see this ... PATHETIC! Calm down, SC2 is alive again!
The guy has been constantly complaining about the new system since it was announced and is not running out of steam it seems. However, repeating the same opinion over and over doesn't make it more right.
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On February 15 2016 03:12 BaneRiders wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 03:09 Nerchio wrote:On February 15 2016 03:08 Diabolique wrote:On February 15 2016 02:57 Schelim wrote:On February 15 2016 02:55 Diabolique wrote:On February 15 2016 02:52 D-light wrote:On February 15 2016 02:47 Boucot wrote:On February 15 2016 02:47 Diabolique wrote: I do not understand ... what is this game? Bly vs Drogo? Is this the loser's bracket of the loser's bracket?
They are both out, aren't they? C'mon, it's been explained like 10 times in this thread :/ C'mon it's not like he could somehow search for the answer in the time he has wrote the question... and then wait for someone to spend time to answer the question. Sorry, I was not reading the thread, I just turned on the ESL.tv game, looked at liquipedia and did not understand, what a tie breaker means ... don't worry about it, i asked the same question yesterday. due to the fact i don't pay much attention to the scene anymore, i still don't really understand why there is a tournament called WCS Regional Challengers that qualifies you for an IEM (rather than a WCS event), or why they would have 12 players that are already qualified for said IEM play in it, but whatever. Yes .. well said ... I observe the scene, I knew, there were like 3 different qualifier tournaments and then i saw, there is another qualifier tournament this weekend, so that all the players, who did not manage to qualify, have ANOTHER chance to qualify and was quite sad for Ptit Drogo that he is out when he lost yesteray in the winners bracket and I thought, this poor guy, did lose in all the qualification tournaments before and now, he has the last chance - he must win the loser's bracket ... but he lost ... sad for him :-( And then I see, while there are all the RO4 matches still going on, in both the winner's and loser's bracket, there is ANOTHER tournament, where Ptit Drogo plays ... and I just ask, what is it? And then I hear, this is a mini tournament for ANOTHER qualification ... quite funny. I am really happy for Drogo, he is a good guy, but when I see, how the Koreans have ZERO chance to qualify at any good foreign tournament with good prize money ... HerO out, TaeJa out, all the others retired, and then I see, not only did WCS grant huge money for the foreigners, but also it introduced 21 possibilities for everyone to qualify - this just a joke. When I see, that e.g. sOs will have practically zero chance to qualify for BlizzCon this year and then I see this ... PATHETIC! Calm down, SC2 is alive again! The guy has been constantly complaining about the new system since it was announced and is not running out of steam it seems. However, repeating the same opinion over and over doesn't make it more right. while that is of course true, i do think it's a weird move by Blizzard to further segregate the foreigners from the Koreans and somehow expect them to magically become better by facing less strong competition.
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On February 15 2016 03:12 BaneRiders wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 03:09 Nerchio wrote:On February 15 2016 03:08 Diabolique wrote:On February 15 2016 02:57 Schelim wrote:On February 15 2016 02:55 Diabolique wrote:On February 15 2016 02:52 D-light wrote:On February 15 2016 02:47 Boucot wrote:On February 15 2016 02:47 Diabolique wrote: I do not understand ... what is this game? Bly vs Drogo? Is this the loser's bracket of the loser's bracket?
They are both out, aren't they? C'mon, it's been explained like 10 times in this thread :/ C'mon it's not like he could somehow search for the answer in the time he has wrote the question... and then wait for someone to spend time to answer the question. Sorry, I was not reading the thread, I just turned on the ESL.tv game, looked at liquipedia and did not understand, what a tie breaker means ... don't worry about it, i asked the same question yesterday. due to the fact i don't pay much attention to the scene anymore, i still don't really understand why there is a tournament called WCS Regional Challengers that qualifies you for an IEM (rather than a WCS event), or why they would have 12 players that are already qualified for said IEM play in it, but whatever. Yes .. well said ... I observe the scene, I knew, there were like 3 different qualifier tournaments and then i saw, there is another qualifier tournament this weekend, so that all the players, who did not manage to qualify, have ANOTHER chance to qualify and was quite sad for Ptit Drogo that he is out when he lost yesteray in the winners bracket and I thought, this poor guy, did lose in all the qualification tournaments before and now, he has the last chance - he must win the loser's bracket ... but he lost ... sad for him :-( And then I see, while there are all the RO4 matches still going on, in both the winner's and loser's bracket, there is ANOTHER tournament, where Ptit Drogo plays ... and I just ask, what is it? And then I hear, this is a mini tournament for ANOTHER qualification ... quite funny. I am really happy for Drogo, he is a good guy, but when I see, how the Koreans have ZERO chance to qualify at any good foreign tournament with good prize money ... HerO out, TaeJa out, all the others retired, and then I see, not only did WCS grant huge money for the foreigners, but also it introduced 21 possibilities for everyone to qualify - this just a joke. When I see, that e.g. sOs will have practically zero chance to qualify for BlizzCon this year and then I see this ... PATHETIC! Calm down, SC2 is alive again! The guy has been constantly complaining about the new system since it was announced and is not running out of steam it seems. However, repeating the same opinion over and over doesn't make it more right. Well, it is right even without repeating. The most people see it, some slower minds don't. So don't worry and be happy if you don't understand it.
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Listen to Nerchio, he has recently reinforced his credits in the treacherous waters of the Polish qualifier!
No, really, when I saw it, i felt a little bad for any up-and-coming Poles, who did not stand that much of a chance here. It's a little weird that the local qualifiers weren't run the last; no doubt Nerchio would have qualified through other means anyway and at least there would be a spot for someone really local, when we are doing this "grassroots esports" in WCS now.
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On February 15 2016 03:13 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 03:12 BaneRiders wrote:On February 15 2016 03:09 Nerchio wrote:On February 15 2016 03:08 Diabolique wrote:On February 15 2016 02:57 Schelim wrote:On February 15 2016 02:55 Diabolique wrote:On February 15 2016 02:52 D-light wrote:On February 15 2016 02:47 Boucot wrote:On February 15 2016 02:47 Diabolique wrote: I do not understand ... what is this game? Bly vs Drogo? Is this the loser's bracket of the loser's bracket?
They are both out, aren't they? C'mon, it's been explained like 10 times in this thread :/ C'mon it's not like he could somehow search for the answer in the time he has wrote the question... and then wait for someone to spend time to answer the question. Sorry, I was not reading the thread, I just turned on the ESL.tv game, looked at liquipedia and did not understand, what a tie breaker means ... don't worry about it, i asked the same question yesterday. due to the fact i don't pay much attention to the scene anymore, i still don't really understand why there is a tournament called WCS Regional Challengers that qualifies you for an IEM (rather than a WCS event), or why they would have 12 players that are already qualified for said IEM play in it, but whatever. Yes .. well said ... I observe the scene, I knew, there were like 3 different qualifier tournaments and then i saw, there is another qualifier tournament this weekend, so that all the players, who did not manage to qualify, have ANOTHER chance to qualify and was quite sad for Ptit Drogo that he is out when he lost yesteray in the winners bracket and I thought, this poor guy, did lose in all the qualification tournaments before and now, he has the last chance - he must win the loser's bracket ... but he lost ... sad for him :-( And then I see, while there are all the RO4 matches still going on, in both the winner's and loser's bracket, there is ANOTHER tournament, where Ptit Drogo plays ... and I just ask, what is it? And then I hear, this is a mini tournament for ANOTHER qualification ... quite funny. I am really happy for Drogo, he is a good guy, but when I see, how the Koreans have ZERO chance to qualify at any good foreign tournament with good prize money ... HerO out, TaeJa out, all the others retired, and then I see, not only did WCS grant huge money for the foreigners, but also it introduced 21 possibilities for everyone to qualify - this just a joke. When I see, that e.g. sOs will have practically zero chance to qualify for BlizzCon this year and then I see this ... PATHETIC! Calm down, SC2 is alive again! The guy has been constantly complaining about the new system since it was announced and is not running out of steam it seems. However, repeating the same opinion over and over doesn't make it more right. while that is of course true, i do think it's a weird move by Blizzard to further segregate the foreigners from the Koreans and somehow expect them to magically become better by facing less strong competition. Eh, I kinda doubt they actually expect that.
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On February 15 2016 03:13 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 03:12 BaneRiders wrote:On February 15 2016 03:09 Nerchio wrote:On February 15 2016 03:08 Diabolique wrote:On February 15 2016 02:57 Schelim wrote:On February 15 2016 02:55 Diabolique wrote:On February 15 2016 02:52 D-light wrote:On February 15 2016 02:47 Boucot wrote:On February 15 2016 02:47 Diabolique wrote: I do not understand ... what is this game? Bly vs Drogo? Is this the loser's bracket of the loser's bracket?
They are both out, aren't they? C'mon, it's been explained like 10 times in this thread :/ C'mon it's not like he could somehow search for the answer in the time he has wrote the question... and then wait for someone to spend time to answer the question. Sorry, I was not reading the thread, I just turned on the ESL.tv game, looked at liquipedia and did not understand, what a tie breaker means ... don't worry about it, i asked the same question yesterday. due to the fact i don't pay much attention to the scene anymore, i still don't really understand why there is a tournament called WCS Regional Challengers that qualifies you for an IEM (rather than a WCS event), or why they would have 12 players that are already qualified for said IEM play in it, but whatever. Yes .. well said ... I observe the scene, I knew, there were like 3 different qualifier tournaments and then i saw, there is another qualifier tournament this weekend, so that all the players, who did not manage to qualify, have ANOTHER chance to qualify and was quite sad for Ptit Drogo that he is out when he lost yesteray in the winners bracket and I thought, this poor guy, did lose in all the qualification tournaments before and now, he has the last chance - he must win the loser's bracket ... but he lost ... sad for him :-( And then I see, while there are all the RO4 matches still going on, in both the winner's and loser's bracket, there is ANOTHER tournament, where Ptit Drogo plays ... and I just ask, what is it? And then I hear, this is a mini tournament for ANOTHER qualification ... quite funny. I am really happy for Drogo, he is a good guy, but when I see, how the Koreans have ZERO chance to qualify at any good foreign tournament with good prize money ... HerO out, TaeJa out, all the others retired, and then I see, not only did WCS grant huge money for the foreigners, but also it introduced 21 possibilities for everyone to qualify - this just a joke. When I see, that e.g. sOs will have practically zero chance to qualify for BlizzCon this year and then I see this ... PATHETIC! Calm down, SC2 is alive again! The guy has been constantly complaining about the new system since it was announced and is not running out of steam it seems. However, repeating the same opinion over and over doesn't make it more right. while that is of course true, i do think it's a weird move by Blizzard to further segregate the foreigners from the Koreans and somehow expect them to magically become better by facing less strong competition. But that is not the goal of the WCS changes. The idea is not to make the foreigners better, the idea is to destroy the Korean base (make it smaller with less opportunities). And they are very successful with this idea.
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On February 15 2016 03:14 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 03:12 BaneRiders wrote:On February 15 2016 03:09 Nerchio wrote:On February 15 2016 03:08 Diabolique wrote:On February 15 2016 02:57 Schelim wrote:On February 15 2016 02:55 Diabolique wrote:On February 15 2016 02:52 D-light wrote:On February 15 2016 02:47 Boucot wrote:On February 15 2016 02:47 Diabolique wrote: I do not understand ... what is this game? Bly vs Drogo? Is this the loser's bracket of the loser's bracket?
They are both out, aren't they? C'mon, it's been explained like 10 times in this thread :/ C'mon it's not like he could somehow search for the answer in the time he has wrote the question... and then wait for someone to spend time to answer the question. Sorry, I was not reading the thread, I just turned on the ESL.tv game, looked at liquipedia and did not understand, what a tie breaker means ... don't worry about it, i asked the same question yesterday. due to the fact i don't pay much attention to the scene anymore, i still don't really understand why there is a tournament called WCS Regional Challengers that qualifies you for an IEM (rather than a WCS event), or why they would have 12 players that are already qualified for said IEM play in it, but whatever. Yes .. well said ... I observe the scene, I knew, there were like 3 different qualifier tournaments and then i saw, there is another qualifier tournament this weekend, so that all the players, who did not manage to qualify, have ANOTHER chance to qualify and was quite sad for Ptit Drogo that he is out when he lost yesteray in the winners bracket and I thought, this poor guy, did lose in all the qualification tournaments before and now, he has the last chance - he must win the loser's bracket ... but he lost ... sad for him :-( And then I see, while there are all the RO4 matches still going on, in both the winner's and loser's bracket, there is ANOTHER tournament, where Ptit Drogo plays ... and I just ask, what is it? And then I hear, this is a mini tournament for ANOTHER qualification ... quite funny. I am really happy for Drogo, he is a good guy, but when I see, how the Koreans have ZERO chance to qualify at any good foreign tournament with good prize money ... HerO out, TaeJa out, all the others retired, and then I see, not only did WCS grant huge money for the foreigners, but also it introduced 21 possibilities for everyone to qualify - this just a joke. When I see, that e.g. sOs will have practically zero chance to qualify for BlizzCon this year and then I see this ... PATHETIC! Calm down, SC2 is alive again! The guy has been constantly complaining about the new system since it was announced and is not running out of steam it seems. However, repeating the same opinion over and over doesn't make it more right. Well, it is right even without repeating. The most people see it, some slower minds don't. So don't worry and be happy if you don't understand it. is this the "you're stupid if you don't agree with me" argument?
slow down cowboy this is LR thread, not Debating 101
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On February 15 2016 03:15 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 03:13 Schelim wrote:On February 15 2016 03:12 BaneRiders wrote:On February 15 2016 03:09 Nerchio wrote:On February 15 2016 03:08 Diabolique wrote:On February 15 2016 02:57 Schelim wrote:On February 15 2016 02:55 Diabolique wrote:On February 15 2016 02:52 D-light wrote:On February 15 2016 02:47 Boucot wrote:On February 15 2016 02:47 Diabolique wrote: I do not understand ... what is this game? Bly vs Drogo? Is this the loser's bracket of the loser's bracket?
They are both out, aren't they? C'mon, it's been explained like 10 times in this thread :/ C'mon it's not like he could somehow search for the answer in the time he has wrote the question... and then wait for someone to spend time to answer the question. Sorry, I was not reading the thread, I just turned on the ESL.tv game, looked at liquipedia and did not understand, what a tie breaker means ... don't worry about it, i asked the same question yesterday. due to the fact i don't pay much attention to the scene anymore, i still don't really understand why there is a tournament called WCS Regional Challengers that qualifies you for an IEM (rather than a WCS event), or why they would have 12 players that are already qualified for said IEM play in it, but whatever. Yes .. well said ... I observe the scene, I knew, there were like 3 different qualifier tournaments and then i saw, there is another qualifier tournament this weekend, so that all the players, who did not manage to qualify, have ANOTHER chance to qualify and was quite sad for Ptit Drogo that he is out when he lost yesteray in the winners bracket and I thought, this poor guy, did lose in all the qualification tournaments before and now, he has the last chance - he must win the loser's bracket ... but he lost ... sad for him :-( And then I see, while there are all the RO4 matches still going on, in both the winner's and loser's bracket, there is ANOTHER tournament, where Ptit Drogo plays ... and I just ask, what is it? And then I hear, this is a mini tournament for ANOTHER qualification ... quite funny. I am really happy for Drogo, he is a good guy, but when I see, how the Koreans have ZERO chance to qualify at any good foreign tournament with good prize money ... HerO out, TaeJa out, all the others retired, and then I see, not only did WCS grant huge money for the foreigners, but also it introduced 21 possibilities for everyone to qualify - this just a joke. When I see, that e.g. sOs will have practically zero chance to qualify for BlizzCon this year and then I see this ... PATHETIC! Calm down, SC2 is alive again! The guy has been constantly complaining about the new system since it was announced and is not running out of steam it seems. However, repeating the same opinion over and over doesn't make it more right. while that is of course true, i do think it's a weird move by Blizzard to further segregate the foreigners from the Koreans and somehow expect them to magically become better by facing less strong competition. Eh, I kinda doubt they actually expect that. well, the alternative is that they have simply given up on foreigners ever being relevant competitively in the grand scheme of things. which is a strangely defeatist attitude, don't you think?
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On February 15 2016 03:17 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 03:13 Schelim wrote:On February 15 2016 03:12 BaneRiders wrote:On February 15 2016 03:09 Nerchio wrote:On February 15 2016 03:08 Diabolique wrote:On February 15 2016 02:57 Schelim wrote:On February 15 2016 02:55 Diabolique wrote:On February 15 2016 02:52 D-light wrote:On February 15 2016 02:47 Boucot wrote:On February 15 2016 02:47 Diabolique wrote: I do not understand ... what is this game? Bly vs Drogo? Is this the loser's bracket of the loser's bracket?
They are both out, aren't they? C'mon, it's been explained like 10 times in this thread :/ C'mon it's not like he could somehow search for the answer in the time he has wrote the question... and then wait for someone to spend time to answer the question. Sorry, I was not reading the thread, I just turned on the ESL.tv game, looked at liquipedia and did not understand, what a tie breaker means ... don't worry about it, i asked the same question yesterday. due to the fact i don't pay much attention to the scene anymore, i still don't really understand why there is a tournament called WCS Regional Challengers that qualifies you for an IEM (rather than a WCS event), or why they would have 12 players that are already qualified for said IEM play in it, but whatever. Yes .. well said ... I observe the scene, I knew, there were like 3 different qualifier tournaments and then i saw, there is another qualifier tournament this weekend, so that all the players, who did not manage to qualify, have ANOTHER chance to qualify and was quite sad for Ptit Drogo that he is out when he lost yesteray in the winners bracket and I thought, this poor guy, did lose in all the qualification tournaments before and now, he has the last chance - he must win the loser's bracket ... but he lost ... sad for him :-( And then I see, while there are all the RO4 matches still going on, in both the winner's and loser's bracket, there is ANOTHER tournament, where Ptit Drogo plays ... and I just ask, what is it? And then I hear, this is a mini tournament for ANOTHER qualification ... quite funny. I am really happy for Drogo, he is a good guy, but when I see, how the Koreans have ZERO chance to qualify at any good foreign tournament with good prize money ... HerO out, TaeJa out, all the others retired, and then I see, not only did WCS grant huge money for the foreigners, but also it introduced 21 possibilities for everyone to qualify - this just a joke. When I see, that e.g. sOs will have practically zero chance to qualify for BlizzCon this year and then I see this ... PATHETIC! Calm down, SC2 is alive again! The guy has been constantly complaining about the new system since it was announced and is not running out of steam it seems. However, repeating the same opinion over and over doesn't make it more right. while that is of course true, i do think it's a weird move by Blizzard to further segregate the foreigners from the Koreans and somehow expect them to magically become better by facing less strong competition. But that is not the goal of the WCS changes. The idea is not to make the foreigners better, the idea is to destroy the Korean base (make it smaller with less opportunities). And they are very successful with this idea. Can you stop with those idiotic statements?
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On February 15 2016 03:22 Noonius wrote: YEAR OF HAPPY certainly a part of the darkest timeline, where every bo5 takes 3 hours
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Will LotV finally be the age of Happy?
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On February 15 2016 03:14 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 03:12 BaneRiders wrote:On February 15 2016 03:09 Nerchio wrote:On February 15 2016 03:08 Diabolique wrote:On February 15 2016 02:57 Schelim wrote:On February 15 2016 02:55 Diabolique wrote:On February 15 2016 02:52 D-light wrote:On February 15 2016 02:47 Boucot wrote:On February 15 2016 02:47 Diabolique wrote: I do not understand ... what is this game? Bly vs Drogo? Is this the loser's bracket of the loser's bracket?
They are both out, aren't they? C'mon, it's been explained like 10 times in this thread :/ C'mon it's not like he could somehow search for the answer in the time he has wrote the question... and then wait for someone to spend time to answer the question. Sorry, I was not reading the thread, I just turned on the ESL.tv game, looked at liquipedia and did not understand, what a tie breaker means ... don't worry about it, i asked the same question yesterday. due to the fact i don't pay much attention to the scene anymore, i still don't really understand why there is a tournament called WCS Regional Challengers that qualifies you for an IEM (rather than a WCS event), or why they would have 12 players that are already qualified for said IEM play in it, but whatever. Yes .. well said ... I observe the scene, I knew, there were like 3 different qualifier tournaments and then i saw, there is another qualifier tournament this weekend, so that all the players, who did not manage to qualify, have ANOTHER chance to qualify and was quite sad for Ptit Drogo that he is out when he lost yesteray in the winners bracket and I thought, this poor guy, did lose in all the qualification tournaments before and now, he has the last chance - he must win the loser's bracket ... but he lost ... sad for him :-( And then I see, while there are all the RO4 matches still going on, in both the winner's and loser's bracket, there is ANOTHER tournament, where Ptit Drogo plays ... and I just ask, what is it? And then I hear, this is a mini tournament for ANOTHER qualification ... quite funny. I am really happy for Drogo, he is a good guy, but when I see, how the Koreans have ZERO chance to qualify at any good foreign tournament with good prize money ... HerO out, TaeJa out, all the others retired, and then I see, not only did WCS grant huge money for the foreigners, but also it introduced 21 possibilities for everyone to qualify - this just a joke. When I see, that e.g. sOs will have practically zero chance to qualify for BlizzCon this year and then I see this ... PATHETIC! Calm down, SC2 is alive again! The guy has been constantly complaining about the new system since it was announced and is not running out of steam it seems. However, repeating the same opinion over and over doesn't make it more right. Well, it is right even without repeating. The most people see it, some slower minds don't. So don't worry and be happy if you don't understand it.
If you could keep your ranting to one thread at least I would appreciate it. Spamming the same in every second thread isn't making your case any stronger, and other people, like myself, obviously can get rather tired of it. You don't like the system, we get it. Write to DK.
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6 vikings at a time for Mlord :o
meanwhile Happy makes 7 liberators lol
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happy's gonna bring so much liberty that he will be accepted to france
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marinelord should just go mass thor and laugh at this
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I like how happy seems to just make CCs as soon as he has the money. Against snute yesterday he took half the expansions on seras with a normal economy while snute stayed on 5 bases with like 7k minerals...
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On February 15 2016 03:28 ArtyK wrote: I like how happy seems to just make CCs as soon as he has the money. Against snute yesterday he took half the expansions on seras with a normal economy while snute stayed on 5 bases with like 7k minerals...
that's how you are supposed to play LotV imo. I do that in my games, if I have money to waste, I just build bases no matter what the defendability is, some of them are eventually gonna stick.
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On February 15 2016 03:19 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 03:14 Diabolique wrote:On February 15 2016 03:12 BaneRiders wrote:On February 15 2016 03:09 Nerchio wrote:On February 15 2016 03:08 Diabolique wrote:On February 15 2016 02:57 Schelim wrote:On February 15 2016 02:55 Diabolique wrote:On February 15 2016 02:52 D-light wrote:On February 15 2016 02:47 Boucot wrote:On February 15 2016 02:47 Diabolique wrote: I do not understand ... what is this game? Bly vs Drogo? Is this the loser's bracket of the loser's bracket?
They are both out, aren't they? C'mon, it's been explained like 10 times in this thread :/ C'mon it's not like he could somehow search for the answer in the time he has wrote the question... and then wait for someone to spend time to answer the question. Sorry, I was not reading the thread, I just turned on the ESL.tv game, looked at liquipedia and did not understand, what a tie breaker means ... don't worry about it, i asked the same question yesterday. due to the fact i don't pay much attention to the scene anymore, i still don't really understand why there is a tournament called WCS Regional Challengers that qualifies you for an IEM (rather than a WCS event), or why they would have 12 players that are already qualified for said IEM play in it, but whatever. Yes .. well said ... I observe the scene, I knew, there were like 3 different qualifier tournaments and then i saw, there is another qualifier tournament this weekend, so that all the players, who did not manage to qualify, have ANOTHER chance to qualify and was quite sad for Ptit Drogo that he is out when he lost yesteray in the winners bracket and I thought, this poor guy, did lose in all the qualification tournaments before and now, he has the last chance - he must win the loser's bracket ... but he lost ... sad for him :-( And then I see, while there are all the RO4 matches still going on, in both the winner's and loser's bracket, there is ANOTHER tournament, where Ptit Drogo plays ... and I just ask, what is it? And then I hear, this is a mini tournament for ANOTHER qualification ... quite funny. I am really happy for Drogo, he is a good guy, but when I see, how the Koreans have ZERO chance to qualify at any good foreign tournament with good prize money ... HerO out, TaeJa out, all the others retired, and then I see, not only did WCS grant huge money for the foreigners, but also it introduced 21 possibilities for everyone to qualify - this just a joke. When I see, that e.g. sOs will have practically zero chance to qualify for BlizzCon this year and then I see this ... PATHETIC! Calm down, SC2 is alive again! The guy has been constantly complaining about the new system since it was announced and is not running out of steam it seems. However, repeating the same opinion over and over doesn't make it more right. Well, it is right even without repeating. The most people see it, some slower minds don't. So don't worry and be happy if you don't understand it. is this the "you're stupid if you don't agree with me" argument? slow down cowboy this is LR thread, not Debating 101 Yes, it is exactly this argument. I just did not want to say openly what I think about BaneRider. You know, I complained about WCS changes last time sometimes in December. Then I come here "peacefully" and ask, what is this tie breaker? Happy for Ptit Drogo, but not understanding it. Then, I hear, this was the 4th or 5th possibility for Drogo to qualify and I must laugh about it, how pathetic it is. So I write it (and add the today's news that HerO is leaving) ... and some idiot answers that I am the guy, who spams and complains about WCS over and over, which is obviously a lie as this is my first mentioning the WCS after a looong loooong time ... so I answered with this stupid argument.
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Russian freedom comes with 9 liberators at a time
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Templar needs to change his country now
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In Russia, Russians liberate French.
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mark my words, Happy is gonna get the Presidential Medal of Freedom this year
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On February 15 2016 03:30 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 03:28 ArtyK wrote: I like how happy seems to just make CCs as soon as he has the money. Against snute yesterday he took half the expansions on seras with a normal economy while snute stayed on 5 bases with like 7k minerals... that's how you are supposed to play LotV imo. I do that in my games, if I have money to waste, I just build bases no matter what the defendability is, some of them are eventually gonna stick.
Yeah especially as terran where you can just build them safely and fly them later. Happy seems one step ahead of everyone in this tournament with this and his mass liberator range plays. Now we just have to wait and see if people find counters or copy that
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Wat a weird game. Vikings PDD still king of the air it seems
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On February 15 2016 03:31 Ej_ wrote: In Russia, Russians liberate French.
Silly me, I missed that marinelord is French, I could have constructed much better statements
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On February 15 2016 03:32 Undead1993 wrote: happy pls i think he can trade with twice the mining and being able to make 8 libs at a time
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Casual 20 liberator barricade
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has it occurred to anyone that Liberators are basically the embodiment of Wings of Liberty, yet were only added with Legacy of the Void?
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Even the casters are so liberated that they don't seem to have a lot to say.
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On February 15 2016 03:38 Schelim wrote: has it occurred to anyone that Liberators are basically the embodiment of Wings of Liberty, yet were only added with Legacy of the Void? Game is finally complete
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Oh, they will finally learn how to say Katowice properly! (While Kattowitz is in principle a valid designation of the town, it is so in German, which is kinda irrelevant to the language situation at hand.)
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On February 15 2016 03:41 opisska wrote: Oh, they will finally learn how to say Katowice properly! (While Kattowitz is in principle a valid designation of the town, it is so in German, which is kinda irrelevant to the language situation at hand.) Apollo is a man of many talents, however foreign language pronunciation is not one of them
Wow Mlord is getting butchered
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Happy is playing TY level
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I'm really enjoying this TvT, even though I was rooting for MarineLord. :p
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Happy formed a perfect convex to try and lose the game.
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I remember reading in the SC1 manual that a marine had an expected life span of 9 seconds in combat. But that last fight didn't even give them that
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The tank crew was supposed to last about 30 second in a real-life fight back in the 50s (no idea how is now, does anyone even do tank battles in 21st century?).
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ahahhahahaahah
MLord being played
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hahaha this game. This is why France needs NATO. Them russian tank invasions man
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On February 15 2016 03:50 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: I remember reading in the SC1 manual that a marine had an expected life span of 9 seconds in combat. But that last fight didn't even give them that Not everyone can be Billy the Marine.
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Happy been looking pretty good methinks
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3-1 mana 3-1 snute 3-0 marinelord
Can't say I expected such a good run from Happy.
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That series just happened. Holy crap Happy that was something.
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Congratulations to Happy!
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How can he call him the winner of the tournament, when he will apparently have to play the grand finals yet?
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The last time Happy looked so strong..
Wait a minute, Happy seems to be in his best form ever !!
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On February 15 2016 03:55 opisska wrote: How can he call him the winner of the tournament, when he will apparently have to play the grand finals yet?
There's no grand finals
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On February 15 2016 03:55 Inflicted wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 03:55 opisska wrote: How can he call him the winner of the tournament, when he will apparently have to play the grand finals yet? There's no grand finals
Oh, that's a weird tournament format then.
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On February 15 2016 03:55 Kaizor wrote: The last time Happy looked so strong..
Wait a minute, Happy seems to be in his best form ever !! the last time Happy looked so strong he was playing Undead.
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what's wrong with the streams numbers in the sidebar ?
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On February 15 2016 03:55 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 03:55 Inflicted wrote:On February 15 2016 03:55 opisska wrote: How can he call him the winner of the tournament, when he will apparently have to play the grand finals yet? There's no grand finals Oh, that's a weird tournament format then.
It's meant to seed the top two but since it's played after the Server Qualifier it's now weird
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On February 15 2016 03:55 Kaizor wrote: The last time Happy looked so strong..
Wait a minute, Happy seems to be in his best form ever !! and then offline happens
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On February 15 2016 03:56 Inflicted wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 03:55 opisska wrote:On February 15 2016 03:55 Inflicted wrote:On February 15 2016 03:55 opisska wrote: How can he call him the winner of the tournament, when he will apparently have to play the grand finals yet? There's no grand finals Oh, that's a weird tournament format then. It's meant to seed the top two but since it's played after the Server Qualifier it's now weird
They should realize this and do Happy vs. Nerchio as a bonus
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On February 15 2016 03:55 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 03:55 Inflicted wrote:On February 15 2016 03:55 opisska wrote: How can he call him the winner of the tournament, when he will apparently have to play the grand finals yet? There's no grand finals Oh, that's a weird tournament format then. Somebody that designed this one has no clue how it should work - no winner finals and no difference between 3rd and 4th place in terms of money/wcs points
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Also, can someone enlighten me, how THIS is called the "regional whatever" and there is another thing called the "server qualifier", when THIS is the thing based on your performance on the bloody SERVER? It's really, really confusing.
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Not sure about this format atm. Is there any point of the last games other than money?
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On February 15 2016 03:58 opisska wrote: Also, can someone enlighten me, how THIS is called the "regional whatever" and there is another thing called the "server qualifier", when THIS is the thing based on your performance on the bloody SERVER? It's really, really confusing. Yeah they could do with some renaming lol. It must be one the most confusing formats yet.
On February 15 2016 03:59 Mozdk wrote: Not sure about this format atm. Is there any point of the last games other than money? Fame, glory and bragging rights. But isn't money a pretty nice thing? edit: Oh WCS points
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On February 15 2016 03:59 Mozdk wrote: Not sure about this format atm. Is there any point of the last games other than money? WCS points
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On February 15 2016 03:59 Mozdk wrote: Not sure about this format atm. Is there any point of the last games other than money? we get to watch good sc2. pretty much all i care about at this point, especially since i've given up trying to wrap my head around this format
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So which games are pointless now? I am looking at the wiki and according to that, no games seem pointless?
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On February 15 2016 04:12 JazVM wrote: So which games are pointless now? I am looking at the wiki and according to that, no games seem pointless? there is no pointless games when there is a prizepool involved
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Tactical Ravager egg morph micro
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One ZvZ to rule them all.
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This is exactly the thing I will never be able to do. I can't seem to manage to hold a wall even with evos and blocking a wide ramp just with units is something in the land of dreams.
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Nerchio is an artist with the lings
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Snute. :C
Please Snute, bring it back. I don't care what you have to do, drag this game into a stupid war of attrition somehow.
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On February 15 2016 04:39 Rehio wrote: Snute. :C
Please Snute, bring it back. I don't care what you have to do, drag this game into a stupid war of attrition somehow. Nerchio would beat Snute in that so that's a bad idea.
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Nerchio why are you so good
edit: wow Snute wins whattttt
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I don't think they are realizing how close that game actually was, they were on even supply in workers and army most of the time, Nerchio's only advantage was the +1.
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it's ok i didn't get the portraits either :/
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...Where's my calculator?
Lol.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA SNUTE
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Hatchery block that doesn't block LOL
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Lol Snute how could you mess that up T_T
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Snute nooooooooo he tried to be TLO but there is only one TLO
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So I practiced my all ins in this almost meanginless match since I don't think I can beat marinelord yet and there is no difference between 3rd and 4th :D
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On February 15 2016 04:48 Nerchio wrote: So I practiced my all ins in this almost meanginless match since I don't think I can beat marinelord yet and there is no difference between 3rd and 4th :D the satisfaction
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man.......what a terrible way for snute to go out
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is my stream behind? they're still playing here and yet Nerchio is toasting in the bread lol
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Kinda hard to feel hype for this tournament. At this point with the IEM seeds already decided this is basically an online cup with a slightly larger prize pool.
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On February 15 2016 04:52 Schelim wrote: is my stream behind? they're still playing here and yet Nerchio is toasting in the bread lol He just alt-tabs to TL during ling bane micro
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On February 15 2016 04:52 Schelim wrote: is my stream behind? they're still playing here and yet Nerchio is toasting in the bread lol I'm glad I'm not the only one who had this :p
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On February 15 2016 04:52 Schelim wrote: is my stream behind? they're still playing here and yet Nerchio is toasting in the bread lol
5min delay
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On February 15 2016 04:48 Nerchio wrote: So I practiced my all ins in this almost meanginless match since I don't think I can beat marinelord yet and there is no difference between 3rd and 4th :D
Spoilers!!!!
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I enjoy the games, and I enjoy that we're having this tournament.
But god damn if this isn't one of the worst ways I've ever seen 1st/2nd/3rd decided.
I don't even care that the IEM qualifications were over early, I wanted to see who'd win the tournament. And I did. Aaand now there's matches still going on, and it feels silly.
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On February 15 2016 04:54 Rehio wrote: I enjoy the games, and I enjoy that we're having this tournament.
But god damn if this isn't one of the worst ways I've ever seen 1st/2nd/3rd decided.
I don't even care that the IEM qualifications were over early, I wanted to see who'd win the tournament. And I did. Aaand now there's matches still going on, and it feels silly.
Can you explain? 2nd place gets a ticket, 3rd doesn't?! Why is it meaningless? I am confused.
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On February 15 2016 04:56 JazVM wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 04:54 Rehio wrote: I enjoy the games, and I enjoy that we're having this tournament.
But god damn if this isn't one of the worst ways I've ever seen 1st/2nd/3rd decided.
I don't even care that the IEM qualifications were over early, I wanted to see who'd win the tournament. And I did. Aaand now there's matches still going on, and it feels silly. Can you explain? 2nd place gets a ticket, 3rd doesn't?! Why is it meaningless? I am confused.
It would be that way if 12/16 people hadn't already have the ticket. The qualified ones from this are actually Dayshi and Drogo.
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On February 15 2016 04:57 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 04:56 JazVM wrote:On February 15 2016 04:54 Rehio wrote: I enjoy the games, and I enjoy that we're having this tournament.
But god damn if this isn't one of the worst ways I've ever seen 1st/2nd/3rd decided.
I don't even care that the IEM qualifications were over early, I wanted to see who'd win the tournament. And I did. Aaand now there's matches still going on, and it feels silly. Can you explain? 2nd place gets a ticket, 3rd doesn't?! Why is it meaningless? I am confused. It would be that way if 12/16 people hadn't already have the ticket. The qualified ones from this are actually Dayshi and Drogo.
Oh whoops, that seems stupid :D
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"And it's to find out ... who is in the second place" ... even Kaelaris appreciates the irony of the situation
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On February 15 2016 05:04 RvB wrote: gl hf into bunker rush
welcome to eu ladder
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didn't know MLord was Peruvian
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Love and hate may sometimes be hard to tell
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On February 15 2016 04:53 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 04:52 Schelim wrote: is my stream behind? they're still playing here and yet Nerchio is toasting in the bread lol He just alt-tabs to TL during ling bane micro
Taking the micro to a different level!
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On February 15 2016 05:05 opisska wrote: Love and hate may sometimes be hard to tell
there's a thin llliiiiii-iiiii-----iiinnnneeee betweeeeeen loooove and haaaaate
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On February 15 2016 05:04 Ej_ wrote: didn't know MLord was Peruvian
It must be a very well kept secret...
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can you baneling attack vs grenades?
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this could've been different MarineLord, but you didn't want to change
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On February 15 2016 05:08 Ej_ wrote: this could've been different MarineLord, but you didn't want to change A bit like you ?
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On February 15 2016 05:09 Otolia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 05:08 Ej_ wrote: this could've been different MarineLord, but you didn't want to change A bit like you ? I see love is in the air.
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On February 15 2016 05:10 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 05:09 Otolia wrote:On February 15 2016 05:08 Ej_ wrote: this could've been different MarineLord, but you didn't want to change A bit like you ? I see love is in the air. it is Valentine's Day after all.
i'm spending it with starcraft, hearthstone and someone else's thesis i'm proofreading. what a life.
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On February 15 2016 05:10 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 05:09 Otolia wrote:On February 15 2016 05:08 Ej_ wrote: this could've been different MarineLord, but you didn't want to change A bit like you ? I see love is in the air.
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I never understand what Kaelaris and Apollo think Marinelord has to borrow.
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This is the Zerg I fell in love with.
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Edit: What the hell am I doing
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On February 15 2016 05:15 Heartland wrote: Edit: What the hell am I doing lol i saw that and was quite confused. maybe you should just borrow yourself into the ground.
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On February 15 2016 05:15 Heartland wrote: Edit: What the hell am I doing
Now I am curious tho
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On February 15 2016 05:17 Schelim wrote:lol i saw that and was quite confused. maybe you should just borrow yourself into the ground.
Yeah, I left my English there as well it seems, and my ability to make posts on TL
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On February 15 2016 05:03 opisska wrote:"And it's to find out ... who is in the second place" ... even Kaelaris appreciates the irony of the situation
Why is that silly or ironic? GSL-style groups have two matches to decide 2nd place even after the winner of the group is decided.
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On February 15 2016 05:19 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 05:03 opisska wrote:"And it's to find out ... who is in the second place" ... even Kaelaris appreciates the irony of the situation Why is that silly or ironic? GSL-style groups have two matches to decide 2nd place even after the winner of the group is decided.
This is the end of the tournament, though. There is no other stage, like GSL groups.
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On February 15 2016 05:20 Rehio wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 05:19 jalstar wrote:On February 15 2016 05:03 opisska wrote:"And it's to find out ... who is in the second place" ... even Kaelaris appreciates the irony of the situation Why is that silly or ironic? GSL-style groups have two matches to decide 2nd place even after the winner of the group is decided. This is the end of the tournament, though. There is no other stage, like GSL groups.
Well it's the game to win the second seed (if they'd actually ordered their qualifiers correctly).
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On February 15 2016 05:20 Rehio wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 05:19 jalstar wrote:On February 15 2016 05:03 opisska wrote:"And it's to find out ... who is in the second place" ... even Kaelaris appreciates the irony of the situation Why is that silly or ironic? GSL-style groups have two matches to decide 2nd place even after the winner of the group is decided. This is the end of the tournament, though. There is no other stage, like GSL groups.
I was under the impression that this was a qualifier and not a self-contained tournament, so it is like GSL groups. I'm aware it was after the other qualifiers, but that was a scheduling error that won't be repeated in Spring/Summer
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I wonder if Nerchio can be considered top good without abusive units like ultras edit: ragequit confirmed fraud hahaha
User was warned for this post
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On February 15 2016 05:27 Poopi wrote: I wonder if Nerchio can be considered top good without abusive units like ultras edit: ragequit confirmed fraud hahaha
i wonder if you posted this to try to tilt him, since he's almost 100% reading this thread between games
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On February 15 2016 05:27 Poopi wrote: I wonder if Nerchio can be considered top good without abusive units like ultras edit: ragequit confirmed fraud hahaha
The term "abusive unit" is sure sign of empty whining.
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On February 15 2016 05:27 Poopi wrote: I wonder if Nerchio can be considered top good without abusive units like ultras
lol don't know why I am going to respond to this but I will.
If he wasn't a top player, he would never make it to ultras or if he did he would still lose because he would be too behind economically. He would die by multi tasking or timing attacks by good Terran players. It takes awhile to get ultras, spawning pool - lair - infestation pit - hive - ultra cavern. Won't have them for what 9-10 minutes in the game?
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On February 15 2016 05:30 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 05:27 Poopi wrote: I wonder if Nerchio can be considered top good without abusive units like ultras edit: ragequit confirmed fraud hahaha i wonder if you posted this to try to tilt him, since he's almost 100% reading this thread between games no, he just thinks ultralisks are overpowered in ZvT and the only reason Terrans win is because they are superior human beings
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On February 15 2016 05:30 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 05:27 Poopi wrote: I wonder if Nerchio can be considered top good without abusive units like ultras edit: ragequit confirmed fraud hahaha i wonder if you posted this to try to tilt him, since he's almost 100% reading this thread between games
They are 5 minutes ahead, the next game was in fact already on when he wrote this
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I don't think Godchio gets tilted by TL
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On February 15 2016 05:33 Heartland wrote: I don't think Godchio gets tilted by TL It cracks me up
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On February 15 2016 05:34 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 05:33 Heartland wrote: I don't think Godchio gets tilted by TL It cracks me up nice to know g3 already done lol
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On February 15 2016 05:34 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 05:33 Heartland wrote: I don't think Godchio gets tilted by TL It cracks me up
Like this?
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On February 15 2016 05:34 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 05:33 Heartland wrote: I don't think Godchio gets tilted by TL It cracks me up Stop posting when the game is loading.
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He probably just enjoys his spoilering power. Admit it, you all would too.
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gg, nice hold and counter Nerchio!
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On February 15 2016 05:30 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 05:27 Poopi wrote: I wonder if Nerchio can be considered top good without abusive units like ultras edit: ragequit confirmed fraud hahaha i wonder if you posted this to try to tilt him, since he's almost 100% reading this thread between games I just found the game ahem bad but maybe online under blizzard watch is harder, more pressure and stuff
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On February 15 2016 05:38 opisska wrote: He probably just enjoys his spoilering power. Admit it, you all would too. Every pro already does it on twitter, and some in twitch chat, so they all must.
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i enjoy that he's toasting in the bread without getting overly involved in stupid balance discussions and stuff
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On February 15 2016 05:40 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 05:38 opisska wrote: He probably just enjoys his spoilering power. Admit it, you all would too. Every pro already does it on twitter, and some in twitch chat, so they all must.
This is the place where the true fans are however
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You know what programme makes my wife fall asleep? Apollo and Kalearis casting!
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On February 15 2016 05:42 opisska wrote: You know what programme makes my wife fall asleep? Apollo and Kalearis casting! I've always liked Apollo's style.
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lol Kaelaris' casting over the last few minutes: talk about star wars and lord of the rings, then when Apollo subtly tries to remind him there's a game on, he's like "some things happened".
excellent commentary, Tasteless!
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On February 15 2016 05:42 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 05:42 opisska wrote: You know what programme makes my wife fall asleep? Apollo and Kalearis casting! I've always liked Apollo's style.
I like them both, I am just commenting on the fact that Kaelaris was dissing the Hobit movie for making him asleep, while my wife has indeed fallen asleep about half an hour ago, listing to him
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On February 15 2016 05:44 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 05:42 royalroadweed wrote:On February 15 2016 05:42 opisska wrote: You know what programme makes my wife fall asleep? Apollo and Kalearis casting! I've always liked Apollo's style. I like them both, I am just commenting on the fact that Kaelaris was dissing the Hobit movie for making him asleep, while my wife has indeed fallen asleep about half an hour ago, listing to him best Valentine's Day EU
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Smart to wait for the liberator to go def mode before bile edit: gg lost for mlord already
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fucking ultralisks I swear
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So now I would go to the winners finals and win against happy but this tournament format is ridiculous so gg 2nd place :D
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On February 15 2016 04:48 Nerchio wrote: So I practiced my all ins in this almost meanginless match since I don't think I can beat marinelord yet and there is no difference between 3rd and 4th :D
You were sayin'? )
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You know this is the online part of WCS when the top 2 consists of Happy and Nerchio.
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On February 15 2016 05:53 Nerchio wrote: So now I would go to the winners finals and win against happy but this tournament format is ridiculous so gg 2nd place :D
Yeah, that is indeed weird how the first place was decided already.
Well ggs and congrats!
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On February 15 2016 05:53 Boucot wrote: You know this is the online part of WCS when the top 2 consists of Happy and Nerchio.
Russian and Polish internet OP!
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On February 15 2016 05:53 Boucot wrote: You know this is the online part of WCS when the top 2 consists of Happy and Nerchio. And with Marinelord as high as 3rd.
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I may move to Poland at the end of the year. Do you think I am suddenly gone become grandmaster?
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Weird they don't have a final. Oceania/SEA had s grand final where the wb player started with a 1-0 lead in a bo7
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On February 15 2016 06:48 Shellshock wrote: Weird they don't have a final. Oceania/SEA had s grand final where the wb player started with a 1-0 lead in a bo7
Oceania only has one seed so they need a grand final, while here they have two seeds which is why they don't. This system makes a lot more sense as long as this is the first qualifier done.
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I missed Happy the whole saturday when everyone praised how strong he was playing and because of the format we can't watch him face the final boss, fack. Happy Drogo and Dayshi pulled it off tho. (no pun)
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Does the prize pool on LP only add up to 9800 instead of 10k?
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On February 15 2016 08:15 Shellshock wrote: Does the prize pool on LP only add up to 9800 instead of 10k?
Yeah. ESL pocketing the change.
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On February 15 2016 07:06 Poopi wrote: I missed Happy the whole saturday when everyone praised how strong he was playing and because of the format we can't watch him face the final boss, fack. Happy Drogo and Dayshi pulled it off tho. (no pun) on this tournament i'd say happy was the final boss. His games against snute made one of the best foreigner look like a gold player
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On February 15 2016 08:55 seemsgood wrote: Happy needs a team. at this point it feels more like teams need Happy
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On February 15 2016 09:27 oGoZenob wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 07:06 Poopi wrote: I missed Happy the whole saturday when everyone praised how strong he was playing and because of the format we can't watch him face the final boss, fack. Happy Drogo and Dayshi pulled it off tho. (no pun) on this tournament i'd say happy was the final boss. His games against snute made one of the best foreigner look like a gold player Snute has been very bad (relative to his standards of course) so far in LotV, he'll rise at the same time as Scarlett when it's more figured out / stable, so beating him doesn't mean much, whereas Nerchio had enough momentum to be the boss from the loser bracket .
But all in all it would have been cool to actually see who would have won yeah :/.
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On February 15 2016 10:27 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 09:27 oGoZenob wrote:On February 15 2016 07:06 Poopi wrote: I missed Happy the whole saturday when everyone praised how strong he was playing and because of the format we can't watch him face the final boss, fack. Happy Drogo and Dayshi pulled it off tho. (no pun) on this tournament i'd say happy was the final boss. His games against snute made one of the best foreigner look like a gold player Snute has been very bad (relative to his standards of course) so far in LotV, he'll rise at the same time as Scarlett when it's more figured out / stable, so beating him doesn't mean much, whereas Nerchio had enough momentum to be the boss from the loser bracket . But all in all it would have been cool to actually see who would have won yeah :/. If Snute is going to rise at the same time as Scarlett then RIP both of them cause I'm pretty sure she's retiring in September. I'd rather not lose 2 amazing foreigners at the same time.
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On February 15 2016 10:27 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2016 09:27 oGoZenob wrote:On February 15 2016 07:06 Poopi wrote: I missed Happy the whole saturday when everyone praised how strong he was playing and because of the format we can't watch him face the final boss, fack. Happy Drogo and Dayshi pulled it off tho. (no pun) on this tournament i'd say happy was the final boss. His games against snute made one of the best foreigner look like a gold player Snute has been very bad (relative to his standards of course) so far in LotV, he'll rise at the same time as Scarlett when it's more figured out / stable, so beating him doesn't mean much, whereas Nerchio had enough momentum to be the boss from the loser bracket . But all in all it would have been cool to actually see who would have won yeah :/. I wouldnt said he was bad, just like less dominant, and he even won a tournament in china at the beginning. I get your point, but I dont think it's the fact that Happy beat him, it's how he did it. He was like three steps ahead in every aspect of the game. I dont remember seeing someone manhandle Snute that way, even when snute was at his lowest point
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
Any recommended matches/VOD links?
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On February 16 2016 01:43 juicyjames wrote: Any recommended matches/VOD links?
I haven't seen a lot from the tournament, but I really enjoyed Marinelord vs. Happy
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