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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
January 23 2016 17:23 GMT
#761
On January 24 2016 02:19 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 02:18 Longduzboub wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:17 Hider wrote:
Uthermal could be a worldclass player if he fixed his basemanagement issues. His unit control is by far the best of any foreign terran player.

lol, nope


Besides Ty and Innovation, there aren't any korean terran players (that I can think of) with better unit control than him. Arguably he is on par with Innovation in terms of controlling units. But Innovation has top base management and uThermal has diamond level.



Yeah uThermal for sure has better unit control than Maru!

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for a second I thought I was getting swag_bro'd
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Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3175 Posts
January 23 2016 17:23 GMT
#762
On January 24 2016 02:22 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 02:18 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Now I don't want them to remove tankivacs anymore

Same, lol


Just wait until Protoss go back to Zealot HT Archon
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
January 23 2016 17:23 GMT
#763
Ouch that Bly burn
Neosteel Enthusiast
PinheadXXXXXX
Profile Joined February 2012
United States897 Posts
January 23 2016 17:23 GMT
#764
On January 24 2016 02:21 Strela wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 02:20 Grizvok wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:19 Hider wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:18 Longduzboub wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:17 Hider wrote:
Uthermal could be a worldclass player if he fixed his basemanagement issues. His unit control is by far the best of any foreign terran player.

lol, nope


Besides Ty and Innovation, there aren't any korean terran players with better unit control than him


LOL. Okay.

I like your argumentation skills.

Any good kespa terran could have as good micro as uThermal, they just believe it's better to put an emphasis on macro and base management. If they all allocated their attention like uThermal, then they would have better micro than him.
Taeja the one true Byunjwa~
Vedeynevin
Profile Joined February 2015
United States431 Posts
January 23 2016 17:23 GMT
#765
Rekt, poor bly
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 23 2016 17:24 GMT
#766
Lichter would have an aneurysm if he look at what Kaelaris is wearing right now.

I like his shoes though
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18759 Posts
January 23 2016 17:25 GMT
#767
Ro8 and they are still not playing on stage? Is this a joke or what -.-
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
January 23 2016 17:25 GMT
#768
On January 24 2016 02:18 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Now I don't want them to remove tankivacs anymore

I'd rather have a tank that just kills shit.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
January 23 2016 17:25 GMT
#769
On January 24 2016 02:23 PinheadXXXXXX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 02:21 Strela wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:20 Grizvok wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:19 Hider wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:18 Longduzboub wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:17 Hider wrote:
Uthermal could be a worldclass player if he fixed his basemanagement issues. His unit control is by far the best of any foreign terran player.

lol, nope


Besides Ty and Innovation, there aren't any korean terran players with better unit control than him


LOL. Okay.

I like your argumentation skills.

Any good kespa terran could have as good micro as uThermal, they just believe it's better to put an emphasis on macro and base management. If they all allocated their attention like uThermal, then they would have better micro than him.

So basically uThermal is Happy with better macro.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9448 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-23 17:32:53
January 23 2016 17:27 GMT
#770
On January 24 2016 02:20 Grizvok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 02:19 Hider wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:18 Longduzboub wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:17 Hider wrote:
Uthermal could be a worldclass player if he fixed his basemanagement issues. His unit control is by far the best of any foreign terran player.

lol, nope


Besides Ty and Innovation, there aren't any korean terran players with better unit control than him


LOL. Okay.


If you watch the actual game and you understand how absolute shitty his base management is, you would realize how incredible it is that he still is that good. But it's easier to just make ignorant sarcastic comments instead I guess.

LOL WTF?!

Uthermal would get absolutely rolled by any Terran in GSL. Any player for that mattter.


I never said otherwise, assuming you mean Code S. I guess you don't seem to understand that unit control skill =/ everything that is to Sc2. That seems especially dumb to you when I directly mentioned his weakness.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
January 23 2016 17:27 GMT
#771
On January 24 2016 02:25 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 02:18 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Now I don't want them to remove tankivacs anymore

I'd rather have a tank that just kills shit.

Me too... that is far more interesting to me.
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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
January 23 2016 17:27 GMT
#772
On January 24 2016 02:23 PinheadXXXXXX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 02:21 Strela wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:20 Grizvok wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:19 Hider wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:18 Longduzboub wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:17 Hider wrote:
Uthermal could be a worldclass player if he fixed his basemanagement issues. His unit control is by far the best of any foreign terran player.

lol, nope


Besides Ty and Innovation, there aren't any korean terran players with better unit control than him


LOL. Okay.

I like your argumentation skills.

Any good kespa terran could have as good micro as uThermal, they just believe it's better to put an emphasis on macro and base management. If they all allocated their attention like uThermal, then they would have better micro than him.

Any good kespa terran does have as good micro as uthermal while attacking in multiple locations and macroing well behind it.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
MaCRo.gg
Profile Joined June 2015
Korea (South)860 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-23 17:29:27
January 23 2016 17:27 GMT
#773
Love how LR is comparing uThermal playing well in a welfare tournament to Inno, Maru. lmfao.
New WCS must have made you all blind as well as mad.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
January 23 2016 17:27 GMT
#774
On January 24 2016 02:25 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 02:23 PinheadXXXXXX wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:21 Strela wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:20 Grizvok wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:19 Hider wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:18 Longduzboub wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:17 Hider wrote:
Uthermal could be a worldclass player if he fixed his basemanagement issues. His unit control is by far the best of any foreign terran player.

lol, nope


Besides Ty and Innovation, there aren't any korean terran players with better unit control than him


LOL. Okay.

I like your argumentation skills.

Any good kespa terran could have as good micro as uThermal, they just believe it's better to put an emphasis on macro and base management. If they all allocated their attention like uThermal, then they would have better micro than him.

So basically uThermal is Happy with better macro.


Btw did Happy retire?

He really had some of the sickest micro moments in SC2.

#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
January 23 2016 17:28 GMT
#775
btw finally a dutch at the last stage of a huge tournament, that's nice
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
January 23 2016 17:29 GMT
#776
On January 24 2016 02:27 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 02:23 PinheadXXXXXX wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:21 Strela wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:20 Grizvok wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:19 Hider wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:18 Longduzboub wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:17 Hider wrote:
Uthermal could be a worldclass player if he fixed his basemanagement issues. His unit control is by far the best of any foreign terran player.

lol, nope


Besides Ty and Innovation, there aren't any korean terran players with better unit control than him


LOL. Okay.

I like your argumentation skills.

Any good kespa terran could have as good micro as uThermal, they just believe it's better to put an emphasis on macro and base management. If they all allocated their attention like uThermal, then they would have better micro than him.

Any good kespa terran does have as good micro as uthermal while attacking in multiple locations and macroing well behind it.


Unless you're Bomber and push from the front onto creep and fail to split.
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Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9448 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-23 17:31:47
January 23 2016 17:29 GMT
#777

So basically uThermal is Happy with better macro.


Not really. Happy just refuses to build scvs constantly.

Uthermal on the other hand has much better worker macro, but horrendous saturation. Like in macro games you would constantly see him with 20+ workers on one base and 10 workers on another. The lack of camera hotkeys is a big reason for this. It's not even that much of a mechanical issue (because it's easy to adress if you focus on it).

Further, he builds and lifts command centers way way too late (when there is no strategic reason for it). This hurts his income rate and he needs to compensate with it in terms of unit control.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9331 Posts
January 23 2016 17:30 GMT
#778
On January 24 2016 02:25 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 02:18 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Now I don't want them to remove tankivacs anymore

I'd rather have a tank that just kills shit.


it's called Lurker
You're now breathing manually
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 23 2016 17:30 GMT
#779
On January 24 2016 02:29 Inflicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 02:27 royalroadweed wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:23 PinheadXXXXXX wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:21 Strela wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:20 Grizvok wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:19 Hider wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:18 Longduzboub wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:17 Hider wrote:
Uthermal could be a worldclass player if he fixed his basemanagement issues. His unit control is by far the best of any foreign terran player.

lol, nope


Besides Ty and Innovation, there aren't any korean terran players with better unit control than him


LOL. Okay.

I like your argumentation skills.

Any good kespa terran could have as good micro as uThermal, they just believe it's better to put an emphasis on macro and base management. If they all allocated their attention like uThermal, then they would have better micro than him.

Any good kespa terran does have as good micro as uthermal while attacking in multiple locations and macroing well behind it.


Unless you're Bomber and push from the front onto creep and fail to split.


At the very end he started splitting, I never felt so betrayed,
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Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3175 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-23 17:31:00
January 23 2016 17:30 GMT
#780
On January 24 2016 02:21 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 02:18 WrathSCII wrote:
I think ShowTimes composition was the most stupid composition to use vs Marine Tanks. The thing that makes Tanks work vs Adept / Stalker / Immortal is because they all are ranged. Siege Tanks do not do friendly splash vs marines. That is why I think Zealot HT Archon would have absolutely crushed uThermal's composition.

What I don't get is how could he not be prepared to kill uThermal early, or have a way to defeat the 3bases allin, since apparently uThermal used it against Harstem, these allins are also used on ladder...
Seems like poor BO5 management.



Yeah... It was very very poor decision making from ShowTime... I think this is what really distinguish Koreans from foreigners. And the way to fix this, is a coach where he can guide you and discuss strategies with you. Foreigners do not suffer from mechanic issue, but from severe lack of good decision making.
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