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Longduzboub
Profile Joined June 2013
40 Posts
January 23 2016 17:18 GMT
#741
On January 24 2016 02:17 Hider wrote:
Uthermal could be a worldclass player if he fixed his basemanagement issues. His unit control is by far the best of any foreign terran player.

lol, nope
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
January 23 2016 17:18 GMT
#742
On January 24 2016 02:17 Hider wrote:
Uthermal could be a worldclass player if he fixed his basemanagement issues. His unit control is by far the best of any foreign terran player.

I think his unit control is so good because he doesn't spend as much attention on his base management.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9433 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-23 17:24:35
January 23 2016 17:19 GMT
#743
On January 24 2016 02:18 Longduzboub wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 02:17 Hider wrote:
Uthermal could be a worldclass player if he fixed his basemanagement issues. His unit control is by far the best of any foreign terran player.

lol, nope


Besides Ty, Byun and Innovation, there aren't any korean terran players (that I can think of) with better unit control than him. Arguably he is on par with Innovation in terms of controlling units. But Innovation has top base management and uThermal has diamond level.

On January 24 2016 02:18 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 02:17 Hider wrote:
Uthermal could be a worldclass player if he fixed his basemanagement issues. His unit control is by far the best of any foreign terran player.

I think his unit control is so good because he doesn't spend as much attention on his base management.


The main reason is his mouse accuracy and speed. His mechanics are extremely clean and is on a different level compared to Bunny, Major, Heromarine etc.
But he doesn't use camera hotkeys which is holding him somewhat back imo.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
January 23 2016 17:19 GMT
#744
On January 24 2016 02:18 HomeWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 02:15 Musicus wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:14 HomeWorld wrote:
guess who watched Avilo's Evolution Chamber episode


I think more people watched Nation Wars than Evolution Chamber.

You never ever have a possible meta shift dissected on a live tournament.


Pros only watch tournaments, especially when Koreans play, just to dissect their builds and see any meta shifts.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
January 23 2016 17:20 GMT
#745
On January 24 2016 02:18 WrathSCII wrote:
I think ShowTimes composition was the most stupid composition to use vs Marine Tanks. The thing that makes Tanks work vs Adept / Stalker / Immortal is because they all are ranged. Siege Tanks do not do friendly splash vs marines. That is why I think Zealot HT Archon would have absolutely crushed uThermal's composition.


Yeah I think same. Too many people go on autopilot and don't actuall think about what they're doing if I can put it that way. That's why Huk dismantled Marinelord, that's why uThermal is slaying now.

Hopefully Drogo saw those games and will change his game plan.
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
Longduzboub
Profile Joined June 2013
40 Posts
January 23 2016 17:20 GMT
#746
On January 24 2016 02:19 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 02:18 Longduzboub wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:17 Hider wrote:
Uthermal could be a worldclass player if he fixed his basemanagement issues. His unit control is by far the best of any foreign terran player.

lol, nope


Besides Ty and Innovation, there aren't any korean terran players with better unit control than him

lol
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
January 23 2016 17:20 GMT
#747
I wonder if colossi wouldn't still have rekt mass marines.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Grizvok
Profile Joined August 2014
United States711 Posts
January 23 2016 17:20 GMT
#748
On January 24 2016 02:19 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 02:18 Longduzboub wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:17 Hider wrote:
Uthermal could be a worldclass player if he fixed his basemanagement issues. His unit control is by far the best of any foreign terran player.

lol, nope


Besides Ty and Innovation, there aren't any korean terran players with better unit control than him


LOL. Okay.
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
January 23 2016 17:20 GMT
#749
On January 24 2016 02:19 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 02:18 HomeWorld wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:15 Musicus wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:14 HomeWorld wrote:
guess who watched Avilo's Evolution Chamber episode


I think more people watched Nation Wars than Evolution Chamber.

You never ever have a possible meta shift dissected on a live tournament.


Pros only watch tournaments, especially when Koreans play, just to dissect their builds and see any meta shifts.

Yeah, I think Avilo would be the last person they would watch to learn. Innovation on the other hand.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12912 Posts
January 23 2016 17:21 GMT
#750
On January 24 2016 02:18 WrathSCII wrote:
I think ShowTimes composition was the most stupid composition to use vs Marine Tanks. The thing that makes Tanks work vs Adept / Stalker / Immortal is because they all are ranged. Siege Tanks do not do friendly splash vs marines. That is why I think Zealot HT Archon would have absolutely crushed uThermal's composition.

What I don't get is how could he not be prepared to kill uThermal early, or have a way to defeat the 3bases allin, since apparently uThermal used it against Harstem, these allins are also used on ladder...
Seems like poor BO5 management.
WriterMaru
TheMarksofTorment
Profile Joined December 2015
15 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-23 17:21:36
January 23 2016 17:21 GMT
#751
On January 24 2016 02:19 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 02:18 Longduzboub wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:17 Hider wrote:
Uthermal could be a worldclass player if he fixed his basemanagement issues. His unit control is by far the best of any foreign terran player.

lol, nope


Besides Ty and Innovation, there aren't any korean terran players with better unit control than him


LOL WTF?!

Uthermal would get absolutely rolled by any Terran in GSL. Any player for that mattter.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
January 23 2016 17:21 GMT
#752
On January 24 2016 02:21 TheMarksofTorment wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 02:19 Hider wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:18 Longduzboub wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:17 Hider wrote:
Uthermal could be a worldclass player if he fixed his basemanagement issues. His unit control is by far the best of any foreign terran player.

lol, nope


Besides Ty and Innovation, there aren't any korean terran players with better unit control than him


LOL WTF?!

Uthermal would get absolutely rolled by any Terran in GSL.


MaruThermal > Maru
Liquipedia"Expert"
Strela
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands1896 Posts
January 23 2016 17:21 GMT
#753
On January 24 2016 02:20 Grizvok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 02:19 Hider wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:18 Longduzboub wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:17 Hider wrote:
Uthermal could be a worldclass player if he fixed his basemanagement issues. His unit control is by far the best of any foreign terran player.

lol, nope


Besides Ty and Innovation, there aren't any korean terran players with better unit control than him


LOL. Okay.

I like your argumentation skills.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
January 23 2016 17:22 GMT
#754
damn, uthermal and violet are sick, didn't expect violet to 3-0 serral
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12912 Posts
January 23 2016 17:22 GMT
#755
On January 24 2016 02:19 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 02:18 Longduzboub wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:17 Hider wrote:
Uthermal could be a worldclass player if he fixed his basemanagement issues. His unit control is by far the best of any foreign terran player.

lol, nope


Besides Ty and Innovation, there aren't any korean terran players (that I can think of) with better unit control than him. Arguably he is on par with Innovation.

Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 02:18 royalroadweed wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:17 Hider wrote:
Uthermal could be a worldclass player if he fixed his basemanagement issues. His unit control is by far the best of any foreign terran player.

I think his unit control is so good because he doesn't spend as much attention on his base management.


The main reason is his mouse accuracy and speed. His mechanics are extremely clean. But he doesn't use camera hotkeys which is holding him somewhat back imo.

LucifroN had better unit control, not sure nowadays
WriterMaru
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
January 23 2016 17:22 GMT
#756
On January 24 2016 02:21 Inflicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 02:21 TheMarksofTorment wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:19 Hider wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:18 Longduzboub wrote:
On January 24 2016 02:17 Hider wrote:
Uthermal could be a worldclass player if he fixed his basemanagement issues. His unit control is by far the best of any foreign terran player.

lol, nope


Besides Ty and Innovation, there aren't any korean terran players with better unit control than him


LOL WTF?!

Uthermal would get absolutely rolled by any Terran in GSL.


MaruThermal > Maru


MaruChicken >>> all
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28527 Posts
January 23 2016 17:22 GMT
#757
On January 24 2016 02:18 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Now I don't want them to remove tankivacs anymore

Same, lol
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
January 23 2016 17:22 GMT
#758
On January 24 2016 02:20 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 02:18 WrathSCII wrote:
I think ShowTimes composition was the most stupid composition to use vs Marine Tanks. The thing that makes Tanks work vs Adept / Stalker / Immortal is because they all are ranged. Siege Tanks do not do friendly splash vs marines. That is why I think Zealot HT Archon would have absolutely crushed uThermal's composition.


Yeah I think same. Too many people go on autopilot and don't actuall think about what they're doing if I can put it that way. That's why Huk dismantled Marinelord, that's why uThermal is slaying now.

Hopefully Drogo saw those games and will change his game plan.


Exactly, the issue is that most players are just meta followers, 0 thinking on what to do. The meta now is Adepts, make Adepts and win. uThermal used his mind an saw that Protoss no longer make Zealots, which mean no more melee units attacking your marines. The situation becomes very similar to a TvT where your opponent does not have Tanks.

You can abuse the hell out of it.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
January 23 2016 17:22 GMT
#759
Liquipedia"Expert"
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
January 23 2016 17:23 GMT
#760
marinelord should learn from uthermal for his pvt
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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