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On January 24 2016 01:10 D-light wrote:Was there any doubt at some point?
Of course. Violet hasn't been good for a long time, and Hydra is certainly beatable
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On January 24 2016 01:11 rfv14 wrote:Show nested quote +Visas, they don't live in Korea. Banning them by race alone probably wouldn't go over well. ohhh, I get the official policy. But why is it like it is? Passport lock/permanent residency lock (so Masa can attend and we get no charges of racism) would have been just as good from the legal standpoint.
Masa isn't banned from the main event, just from the online qualifier that gives u free travel (which in his case is the only way e could afford to get there), its the same for the Koreans
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On January 24 2016 01:11 rfv14 wrote:Show nested quote +Visas, they don't live in Korea. Banning them by race alone probably wouldn't go over well. ohhh, I get the official policy. But why is it like it is? Passport lock/permanent residency lock (so Masa can attend and we get no charges of racism) would have been just as good from the legal standpoint.
I think they want koreans to try to come over here and teach us how to play starcraft, so that's probably why they allowed visas. Hydra is on ROOT, so I'm sure he helps.
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On January 24 2016 01:12 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2016 01:05 OsaX Nymloth wrote:On January 24 2016 01:05 Die4Ever wrote:On January 24 2016 01:03 Sent. wrote:On January 24 2016 01:02 Die4Ever wrote:On January 24 2016 01:00 Isualin wrote:
Incoming ban to practice on KR ladder if you are not in korea white people should try it sometime I guess? seriously though, violet is the ultimate example of a korean living in america, there's no excuse why foreigners can't do it too lol language barrier? Do they need to talk to play? New WCS rule: if you can't do quality thrash talk in English, you're banned. Most players can't trash talk in any language
That's why we need WCS of Trash-Talk. Huk first champion?
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On January 24 2016 01:12 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2016 01:05 OsaX Nymloth wrote:On January 24 2016 01:05 Die4Ever wrote:On January 24 2016 01:03 Sent. wrote:On January 24 2016 01:02 Die4Ever wrote:On January 24 2016 01:00 Isualin wrote:
Incoming ban to practice on KR ladder if you are not in korea white people should try it sometime I guess? seriously though, violet is the ultimate example of a korean living in america, there's no excuse why foreigners can't do it too lol language barrier? Do they need to talk to play? New WCS rule: if you can't do quality thrash talk in English, you're banned. Most players can't trash talk in any language
it's what's best for the scene
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On January 24 2016 01:13 OsaX Nymloth wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2016 01:12 Elentos wrote:On January 24 2016 01:05 OsaX Nymloth wrote:On January 24 2016 01:05 Die4Ever wrote:On January 24 2016 01:03 Sent. wrote:On January 24 2016 01:02 Die4Ever wrote:On January 24 2016 01:00 Isualin wrote:
Incoming ban to practice on KR ladder if you are not in korea white people should try it sometime I guess? seriously though, violet is the ultimate example of a korean living in america, there's no excuse why foreigners can't do it too lol language barrier? Do they need to talk to play? New WCS rule: if you can't do quality thrash talk in English, you're banned. Most players can't trash talk in any language That's why we need WCS of Trash-Talk. Huk first champion?
HuK just gets carried by MC
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Only Terran can stop viOLet now
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gogo ShoWTime 
Hope he can advance to final
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On January 24 2016 01:14 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2016 01:13 OsaX Nymloth wrote:On January 24 2016 01:12 Elentos wrote:On January 24 2016 01:05 OsaX Nymloth wrote:On January 24 2016 01:05 Die4Ever wrote:On January 24 2016 01:03 Sent. wrote:On January 24 2016 01:02 Die4Ever wrote:On January 24 2016 01:00 Isualin wrote:
Incoming ban to practice on KR ladder if you are not in korea white people should try it sometime I guess? seriously though, violet is the ultimate example of a korean living in america, there's no excuse why foreigners can't do it too lol language barrier? Do they need to talk to play? New WCS rule: if you can't do quality thrash talk in English, you're banned. Most players can't trash talk in any language That's why we need WCS of Trash-Talk. Huk first champion? HuK just gets carried by MC
Trash talking archon?
THIS IS GENIUS
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On January 24 2016 01:05 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2016 01:02 Die4Ever wrote:On January 24 2016 01:00 Isualin wrote:
Incoming ban to practice on KR ladder if you are not in korea white people should try it sometime I guess? seriously though, violet is the ultimate example of a korean living in america, there's no excuse why foreigners can't do it too lol i really don't think it's just "live in korea/practice on KR", i think it has to do with having access to a culture where starcraft as an esport is a more comfortable and legitimate (relative to the west) way to live life in your early 20s. naniwa practiced in korea and he did really well, sure, but it didn't put him on the same level because there's still a culture gap. look at state, he went to korea and he's become the awkward redheaded stepchild with no results. everyone always says "he's getting so good practicing with the koreans," but he never does anything. it reminds me of demuslim hype  if you speak korean and have korean friends and can have a conversation with people who run team houses and understand practice concepts and you come from a background where you know people from your home country have become a big deal and made a good living on SC2 specifically, i think that is what gives you the advantage. otherwise you're saying "white people don't know how to work hard," which i know nobody is trying to say
I just argued with some idiot about this concept on Twitch chat. He was saying he believed simply being able to practice on KR server is why these guys are all so good. Honestly I think it is the different ideas and views from varying players of different races with different strategies in teamhouses that drive innovation and competition. Being able to play against the "best" is one thing, but then when you have these great minds behind you nitpicking and giving insight into what could've been done or the right response to a situation and THEN you have an environment that is really going to foster skill growth.
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On January 24 2016 01:15 Grizvok wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2016 01:05 brickrd wrote:On January 24 2016 01:02 Die4Ever wrote:On January 24 2016 01:00 Isualin wrote:
Incoming ban to practice on KR ladder if you are not in korea white people should try it sometime I guess? seriously though, violet is the ultimate example of a korean living in america, there's no excuse why foreigners can't do it too lol i really don't think it's just "live in korea/practice on KR", i think it has to do with having access to a culture where starcraft as an esport is a more comfortable and legitimate (relative to the west) way to live life in your early 20s. naniwa practiced in korea and he did really well, sure, but it didn't put him on the same level because there's still a culture gap. look at state, he went to korea and he's become the awkward redheaded stepchild with no results. everyone always says "he's getting so good practicing with the koreans," but he never does anything. it reminds me of demuslim hype if you speak korean and have korean friends and can have a conversation with people who run team houses and understand practice concepts and you come from a background where you know people from your home country have become a big deal and made a good living on SC2 specifically, i think that is what gives you the advantage. otherwise you're saying "white people don't know how to work hard," which i know nobody is trying to say I just argued with some idiot about this concept on Twitch chat. He was saying he believed simply being able to practice on KR server is why these guys are all so good. Honestly I think it is the different ideas and views from varying players of different races with different strategies in teamhouses that drive innovation and competition. Being able to play against the "best" is one thing, but then when you have these great minds behind you nitpicking and giving insight into what could've been done or the right response to a situation and THEN you have an environment that is really going to foster skill growth.
who are violet's practice partners?
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On January 24 2016 01:16 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2016 01:15 Grizvok wrote:On January 24 2016 01:05 brickrd wrote:On January 24 2016 01:02 Die4Ever wrote:On January 24 2016 01:00 Isualin wrote:
Incoming ban to practice on KR ladder if you are not in korea white people should try it sometime I guess? seriously though, violet is the ultimate example of a korean living in america, there's no excuse why foreigners can't do it too lol i really don't think it's just "live in korea/practice on KR", i think it has to do with having access to a culture where starcraft as an esport is a more comfortable and legitimate (relative to the west) way to live life in your early 20s. naniwa practiced in korea and he did really well, sure, but it didn't put him on the same level because there's still a culture gap. look at state, he went to korea and he's become the awkward redheaded stepchild with no results. everyone always says "he's getting so good practicing with the koreans," but he never does anything. it reminds me of demuslim hype if you speak korean and have korean friends and can have a conversation with people who run team houses and understand practice concepts and you come from a background where you know people from your home country have become a big deal and made a good living on SC2 specifically, i think that is what gives you the advantage. otherwise you're saying "white people don't know how to work hard," which i know nobody is trying to say I just argued with some idiot about this concept on Twitch chat. He was saying he believed simply being able to practice on KR server is why these guys are all so good. Honestly I think it is the different ideas and views from varying players of different races with different strategies in teamhouses that drive innovation and competition. Being able to play against the "best" is one thing, but then when you have these great minds behind you nitpicking and giving insight into what could've been done or the right response to a situation and THEN you have an environment that is really going to foster skill growth. who are violet's practice partners?
He lives with Polt still I believe, and I'm sure they theorycraft quite a bit.
Violet almost proves my point though. Regardless of how good violet looks right now he would get annihilated by the top tier Koreans training in Korean teamhouses.
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On January 24 2016 01:15 Grizvok wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2016 01:05 brickrd wrote:On January 24 2016 01:02 Die4Ever wrote:On January 24 2016 01:00 Isualin wrote:
Incoming ban to practice on KR ladder if you are not in korea white people should try it sometime I guess? seriously though, violet is the ultimate example of a korean living in america, there's no excuse why foreigners can't do it too lol i really don't think it's just "live in korea/practice on KR", i think it has to do with having access to a culture where starcraft as an esport is a more comfortable and legitimate (relative to the west) way to live life in your early 20s. naniwa practiced in korea and he did really well, sure, but it didn't put him on the same level because there's still a culture gap. look at state, he went to korea and he's become the awkward redheaded stepchild with no results. everyone always says "he's getting so good practicing with the koreans," but he never does anything. it reminds me of demuslim hype if you speak korean and have korean friends and can have a conversation with people who run team houses and understand practice concepts and you come from a background where you know people from your home country have become a big deal and made a good living on SC2 specifically, i think that is what gives you the advantage. otherwise you're saying "white people don't know how to work hard," which i know nobody is trying to say I just argued with some idiot about this concept on Twitch chat. He was saying he believed simply being able to practice on KR server is why these guys are all so good. Honestly I think it is the different ideas and views from varying players of different races with different strategies in teamhouses that drive innovation and competition. Being able to play against the "best" is one thing, but then when you have these great minds behind you nitpicking and giving insight into what could've been done or the right response to a situation and THEN you have an environment that is really going to foster skill growth.
Agreed.
Its wrong to say "white people don't work as hard", but that is true in many specific cases. Just want to give credit for hard work, be it a korean (pretty much any kespa player, but guys like Violet too) or a foreigner that actually practice hard.
The old discussion that the real problem is lack of infra structure since lack of working conditions (team house, salary, practice partners, good server) is not an excuse, its a legitimate reason to be demotivated and underperform. But we cannot use this as an excuse to take the credit away from those who deserve!
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Hopefully Showtime makes the finals because to be frank I don't think any other foreigner that is left have chances vs Korean that makes the final.
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It is very funny point at the moment. All hope that ShowTime/Bly/PtitDrogo/Uthermal win tournament but in end violet or Hydra gonna win but there is still hope now
Every tournament this happens.
If I could choose one foreigner I say ShoWtime please he has voice like TLO and seems nice guy
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Masa isn't banned from the main event, just from the online qualifier that gives u free travel (which in his case is the only way e could afford to get there), its the same for the Koreans
My point is that Masa's status is different from Hydra's and Violet's ----> he has permanent residency visa, the other two have only work visas. We can lock both hydra and Violet out, without hurting Masa.
BTW:They will actually make a special "Masa rule" so he can attend online qualifiers in the future.
I think they want koreans to try to come over here and teach us how to play starcraft, so that's probably why they allowed visas. Hydra is on ROOT, so I'm sure he helps.
I want Koreans to help us too, but allowing ALL of them to come (unless they don't want to) is the best solution. Will 2 koreans make a difference? we don't even know if they play ladder a lot.
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On January 24 2016 01:16 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2016 01:15 Grizvok wrote:On January 24 2016 01:05 brickrd wrote:On January 24 2016 01:02 Die4Ever wrote:On January 24 2016 01:00 Isualin wrote:
Incoming ban to practice on KR ladder if you are not in korea white people should try it sometime I guess? seriously though, violet is the ultimate example of a korean living in america, there's no excuse why foreigners can't do it too lol i really don't think it's just "live in korea/practice on KR", i think it has to do with having access to a culture where starcraft as an esport is a more comfortable and legitimate (relative to the west) way to live life in your early 20s. naniwa practiced in korea and he did really well, sure, but it didn't put him on the same level because there's still a culture gap. look at state, he went to korea and he's become the awkward redheaded stepchild with no results. everyone always says "he's getting so good practicing with the koreans," but he never does anything. it reminds me of demuslim hype if you speak korean and have korean friends and can have a conversation with people who run team houses and understand practice concepts and you come from a background where you know people from your home country have become a big deal and made a good living on SC2 specifically, i think that is what gives you the advantage. otherwise you're saying "white people don't know how to work hard," which i know nobody is trying to say I just argued with some idiot about this concept on Twitch chat. He was saying he believed simply being able to practice on KR server is why these guys are all so good. Honestly I think it is the different ideas and views from varying players of different races with different strategies in teamhouses that drive innovation and competition. Being able to play against the "best" is one thing, but then when you have these great minds behind you nitpicking and giving insight into what could've been done or the right response to a situation and THEN you have an environment that is really going to foster skill growth. who are violet's practice partners?
Common sense 2016, starcraft edition is.
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I so dislike the "white people" people are dropping, it's unrespectful to non white foreigners. The Chinese suck just as much as the rest of us. It's just the NATION of South Korea that is better than the rest.
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showtime beat marine lord. uthermal beat hastem. who is going to win? XD
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