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[PkF] Wire
France24206 Posts
On September 20 2015 08:00 The_Red_Viper wrote: Is it just me or is the average game length of lotv games way below hots games atm? I don't like that :/ I think the T playing so cheesy played a huge role in that. But yeah, the game just doesn't look very stable. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24206 Posts
On September 20 2015 08:02 Zealously wrote: For its flaws (and the metagame sketchiness), I enjoyed this tournament a lot. Red Bull always put on good shows. I'll see you all for the SSL finals in 9 hours  yeah same, ByuL dual leagues hype ! | ||
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timchen1017
37 Posts
I just don't see Huk and MC use any special build or strategy. They pretty much rely on adepts. As others have said from a single unit perspective adepts are already out of hand. It is better than the zealot even without its special ability... how does that even make sense? And enough is said about its cost-effectiveness. Also conceptually it is just wrong to have a unit that is good at harassing (demolishing even) the mineral line to be tanky. This pretty much makes walling off the only option. And then of course with 2 sec warp-ins th warp prism can easily win the game, especially when moving out. Even from the fun perspective I think the design fails. The fun comes from diversity of play, not from how single unit performs. Sure the adept ability is interesting in itself, but it can only be interesting for maybe 2-3 games, if we are seeing it every game. Same if we are going to see tank drops every game. | ||
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CheddarToss
534 Posts
On September 20 2015 07:59 blooblooblahblah wrote: I guess it's a bit of counter-intuitive to a lot of HotS TvP play where terran has to get things done in the mid game. Atm, I think the it's the Protoss that needs to do a lot of damage, otherwise they just lack an army to really compete in late game. Bomber/MMA seemed to play like they're were on a timer, but in reality it was the other way around. And because they kept splitting their army up, the adepts were so cost-efficient against small amounts of bio that can't dps them down quick enough. I agree 100%. The onesidedness of the games was due to "user error", for lack of a better term. MMA/Bomber kept committing suicide in the early game, instead of defending and making liberators. Liberators are the reason why P try to end it early and why T is favoured in the mid/late game. The roles have reversed since HotS. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
I actually think this will happen | ||
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fezvez
France3021 Posts
On September 20 2015 07:53 Rollora wrote: you know, typing and asking questions where the answer is already at your hand, is so much easier because I then can be lazy and let others do the work. And I wasn't really serious with my question. Sounds like a pretty rude way to see things. But whatever floats your boat | ||
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MiniFotToss
China2430 Posts
On September 20 2015 07:51 Rollora wrote: Is this the first time Huk won something in SC2? lol, you're trying so hard to be an idiot Congratulations you succeeded | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24206 Posts
it definitely can, the harder matches are coming. If he can beat herO (hard) and Dear (maybe even harder) I don't see a T resisting his momentum. | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
On September 20 2015 08:04 CheddarToss wrote: I agree 100%. The onesidedness of the games was due to "user error", for lack of a better term. MMA/Bomber kept committing suicide in the early game, instead of defending and making liberators. Liberators are the reason why P try to end it early and why T is favoured in the mid/late game. The roles have reversed since HotS. In that case, terran could use a unit that has an ability where that click their CC it gains the ability to hit ground and air units at 13 range that lasts for 20 seconds. | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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[PkF] Wire
France24206 Posts
On September 20 2015 08:04 CheddarToss wrote: I agree 100%. The onesidedness of the games was due to "user error", for lack of a better term. MMA/Bomber kept committing suicide in the early game, instead of defending and making liberators. Liberators are the reason why P try to end it early and why T is favoured in the mid/late game. The roles have reversed since HotS. the thing is, people have been complaining about that design for ages, so I don't think we should build on that. | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
I hope not. I hope Maru wins and gains the Korean triple crown OSL, S2SL and GSL. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24206 Posts
On September 20 2015 08:08 royalroadweed wrote: I hope not. I hope Maru wins and gains the Korean triple crown OSL, S2SL and GSL. Dear doing it again and getting Blizzcon would be quite crazy too, though unlikely. | ||
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Chaggi
Korea (South)1936 Posts
On September 20 2015 08:04 CheddarToss wrote: I agree 100%. The onesidedness of the games was due to "user error", for lack of a better term. MMA/Bomber kept committing suicide in the early game, instead of defending and making liberators. Liberators are the reason why P try to end it early and why T is favoured in the mid/late game. The roles have reversed since HotS. oh yeah who doesn't like making liberators after committing a stupid amount of resources (tech lab -> research -> switch off to reactor so there's enough liberators to cover the base) while the protoss just takes a 3rd base freely ok | ||
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CheddarToss
534 Posts
On September 20 2015 08:07 royalroadweed wrote: In that case, terran could use a unit that has an ability where that click their CC it gains the ability to hit ground and air units at 13 range that lasts for 20 seconds. That is not needed, because, as I've said several times in the thread, if the Terran just stays in his base (just like how P has to in HotS), and defends, it is really hard for the P to do damage, let alone end the game. However, if you do non stop drops trying to do damage to P, you are bound to lose to Adepts, which are really great at shredding workers and dispatching small amounts of marines. | ||
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cheekymonkey
France1387 Posts
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
On September 20 2015 08:09 [PkF] Wire wrote: Dear doing it again and getting Blizzcon would be quite crazy too, though unlikely. That would indeed be crazy. In a perfect world Dear wins GSL, wins Blizzcon, joins a foreign team then promptly slumps for 2 years before winning blizzcon again. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24206 Posts
On September 20 2015 08:11 cheekymonkey wrote: What is up with the probes jumping from widow mine shots? Looks ridiculous. is this some "cool" new animation in LotV? that's not a widow mine, that's a reaper mine. And yeah it looks stupid. | ||
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CheddarToss
534 Posts
On September 20 2015 08:08 [PkF] Wire wrote: the thing is, people have been complaining about that design for ages, so I don't think we should build on that. I agree. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24206 Posts
On September 20 2015 08:12 royalroadweed wrote: That would indeed be crazy. In a perfect world Dear wins GSL, wins Blizzcon, joins a foreign team then promptly slumps for 2 years again. hahahahaahahaha | ||
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