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Senseless bashing of foreigners and WCS game quality is not permitted today. Criticism is fine, but let's not repeat yesterday's mess. Games can be enjoyed without the presence of constant vitriol.
14:18 GMT (+00:00) Edit: This is your friendly reminder that whining about Protoss is an old and tired thing. Don't.
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On September 14 2015 21:31 Liquid`Ret wrote:
I'm hoping lilbow doesn't read this thread. Awesome performance by him! He's a bit of an outsider for blizzcon but I think he can beat anybody
What is the internet's obsession with people getting offended?
Yes, good job Lilbow for winning WCS.
No, not everyone is impressed by the way he won his matches (especially vs Hydra)
Yes, many people think that he will get 3-0'd by a proper Korean (Life/Innovation/Zest/ etc) and that winning a "premier" tournament, when the only Koreans he beat were Jaedong, Hydra, and ForGG does not mean he's remotely Code S, or even Code A, level.
People have opinions, get over it man.
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On September 15 2015 00:51 BigLove wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2015 21:31 Liquid`Ret wrote:
I'm hoping lilbow doesn't read this thread. Awesome performance by him! He's a bit of an outsider for blizzcon but I think he can beat anybody What is the internet's obsession with people getting offended? Yes, good job Lilbow for winning WCS. No, not everyone is impressed by the way he won his matches (especially vs Hydra)Yes, many people think that he will get 3-0'd by a proper Korean (Life/Innovation/Zest/ etc) and that winning a "premier" tournament, when the only Koreans he beat were Jaedong, Hydra, and ForGG does not mean he's remotely Code S, or even Code A, level. People have opinions, get over it man.
Exactly that. I don't get mad at anyone for supporting Lilbow, good on him for winning. but forgive me if I don't find a 6 game finals series of "Who can throw the hardest?" entertaining
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On September 15 2015 01:12 showstealer1829 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 00:51 BigLove wrote:On September 14 2015 21:31 Liquid`Ret wrote:
I'm hoping lilbow doesn't read this thread. Awesome performance by him! He's a bit of an outsider for blizzcon but I think he can beat anybody What is the internet's obsession with people getting offended? Yes, good job Lilbow for winning WCS. No, not everyone is impressed by the way he won his matches (especially vs Hydra)Yes, many people think that he will get 3-0'd by a proper Korean (Life/Innovation/Zest/ etc) and that winning a "premier" tournament, when the only Koreans he beat were Jaedong, Hydra, and ForGG does not mean he's remotely Code S, or even Code A, level. People have opinions, get over it man. Exactly that. I don't get mad at anyone for supporting Lilbow, good on him for winning. but forgive me if I don't find a 6 game finals series of "Who can throw the hardest?" entertaining
You must be out of your mind to say you didn't enjoy that final
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On September 15 2015 01:42 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 01:12 showstealer1829 wrote:On September 15 2015 00:51 BigLove wrote:On September 14 2015 21:31 Liquid`Ret wrote:
I'm hoping lilbow doesn't read this thread. Awesome performance by him! He's a bit of an outsider for blizzcon but I think he can beat anybody What is the internet's obsession with people getting offended? Yes, good job Lilbow for winning WCS. No, not everyone is impressed by the way he won his matches (especially vs Hydra)Yes, many people think that he will get 3-0'd by a proper Korean (Life/Innovation/Zest/ etc) and that winning a "premier" tournament, when the only Koreans he beat were Jaedong, Hydra, and ForGG does not mean he's remotely Code S, or even Code A, level. People have opinions, get over it man. Exactly that. I don't get mad at anyone for supporting Lilbow, good on him for winning. but forgive me if I don't find a 6 game finals series of "Who can throw the hardest?" entertaining You must be out of your mind to say you didn't enjoy that final
Yes. I think most people are OK with "opinions" but in this case, some opinions seem to be terribly biased against foreigner players.
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On September 15 2015 01:42 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 01:12 showstealer1829 wrote:On September 15 2015 00:51 BigLove wrote:On September 14 2015 21:31 Liquid`Ret wrote:
I'm hoping lilbow doesn't read this thread. Awesome performance by him! He's a bit of an outsider for blizzcon but I think he can beat anybody What is the internet's obsession with people getting offended? Yes, good job Lilbow for winning WCS. No, not everyone is impressed by the way he won his matches (especially vs Hydra)Yes, many people think that he will get 3-0'd by a proper Korean (Life/Innovation/Zest/ etc) and that winning a "premier" tournament, when the only Koreans he beat were Jaedong, Hydra, and ForGG does not mean he's remotely Code S, or even Code A, level. People have opinions, get over it man. Exactly that. I don't get mad at anyone for supporting Lilbow, good on him for winning. but forgive me if I don't find a 6 game finals series of "Who can throw the hardest?" entertaining You must be out of your mind to say you didn't enjoy that final
OMG HOW DARE HE NOT ENJOY THE FINALS THAT WAS PVP BLINK STALKERS VS BLINK STALKERS?! MUST BE ELITEST KOREAN ANTI FOREIGNER!!!
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On September 15 2015 01:52 10bulgares wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 01:42 mderg wrote:On September 15 2015 01:12 showstealer1829 wrote:On September 15 2015 00:51 BigLove wrote:On September 14 2015 21:31 Liquid`Ret wrote:
I'm hoping lilbow doesn't read this thread. Awesome performance by him! He's a bit of an outsider for blizzcon but I think he can beat anybody What is the internet's obsession with people getting offended? Yes, good job Lilbow for winning WCS. No, not everyone is impressed by the way he won his matches (especially vs Hydra)Yes, many people think that he will get 3-0'd by a proper Korean (Life/Innovation/Zest/ etc) and that winning a "premier" tournament, when the only Koreans he beat were Jaedong, Hydra, and ForGG does not mean he's remotely Code S, or even Code A, level. People have opinions, get over it man. Exactly that. I don't get mad at anyone for supporting Lilbow, good on him for winning. but forgive me if I don't find a 6 game finals series of "Who can throw the hardest?" entertaining You must be out of your mind to say you didn't enjoy that final Yes. I think most people are OK with "opinions" but in this case, some opinions seem to be terribly biased against foreigner players.
"terribly bias against foreigner players?"
what the hell does that even mean?
If you say something other than "wow, great games by Lilbow! What a great finals! are you "terribly biased against foreign players?"
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This notion that when people disagree with you they are preventing you from having an opinion is probably the single biggest reason why debating on internet is unbearable.
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On September 15 2015 02:06 Nebuchad wrote:
This notion that when people disagree with you they are preventing you from having an opinion is probably the single biggest reason why debating on internet is unbearable.
It also happens in real life... :/
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Team Liquid or the place where people forget that having an opinion doesn't mean they should share it with the world.
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On September 15 2015 00:51 BigLove wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2015 21:31 Liquid`Ret wrote:
I'm hoping lilbow doesn't read this thread. Awesome performance by him! He's a bit of an outsider for blizzcon but I think he can beat anybody What is the internet's obsession with people getting offended? Yes, good job Lilbow for winning WCS. No, not everyone is impressed by the way he won his matches (especially vs Hydra) Yes, many people think that he will get 3-0'd by a proper Korean (Life/Innovation/Zest/ etc) and that winning a "premier" tournament, when the only Koreans he beat were Jaedong, Hydra, and ForGG does not mean he's remotely Code S, or even Code A, level. People have opinions, get over it man.
Let's look at some of the godlike players that had to be beaten on the path to qualifying for Code S this year:
Maru > Impact and Shine
Soulkey > Salvation, BBoongBBoong and Keen
MMA > Guilty, Pet and Apocalypse
Gumiho > Sleep and Billowy
Dark > Kim Jeong-su (?), Miso and Symbol
Just to be clear, are you saying that top foreigners would have had no chance at reaching "Code S level" by qualifying along those paths? (Not to mention that Code A is a single Bo5 and it's pretty well settled by now that top foreign players are able to take Bo5s off top Korean players.)
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On September 15 2015 02:42 Otolia wrote:
Team Liquid or the place where people forget that having an opinion doesn't mean they should share it with the world.
You say this as if it is a phenomenon unique to TL - it most certainly isn't.
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On September 15 2015 02:48 Kofuku wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 00:51 BigLove wrote:On September 14 2015 21:31 Liquid`Ret wrote:
I'm hoping lilbow doesn't read this thread. Awesome performance by him! He's a bit of an outsider for blizzcon but I think he can beat anybody What is the internet's obsession with people getting offended? Yes, good job Lilbow for winning WCS. No, not everyone is impressed by the way he won his matches (especially vs Hydra) Yes, many people think that he will get 3-0'd by a proper Korean (Life/Innovation/Zest/ etc) and that winning a "premier" tournament, when the only Koreans he beat were Jaedong, Hydra, and ForGG does not mean he's remotely Code S, or even Code A, level. People have opinions, get over it man. Let's look at some of the godlike players that had to be beaten on the path to qualifying for Code S this year: Maru > Impact and Shine Soulkey > Salvation, BBoongBBoong and Keen MMA > Guilty, Pet and Apocalypse Gumiho > Sleep and Billowy Dark > Kim Jeong-su (?), Miso and Symbol Just to be clear, are you saying that top foreigners would have had no chance at reaching "Code S level" by qualifying along those paths? (Not to mention that Code A is a single Bo5 and it's pretty well settled by now that top foreign players are able to take Bo5s off top Korean players.)
It's interesting to note that BboongBboong made the Ro8 of a Dreamhack and was only beaten when he faced a Korean player. He scrapes the very bottom of the Korean scene yet outmatched most foreign players he faced overseas. As for Impact, Salvation, Keen, Guilty (maybe), Pet, Sleep, Billowy and Symbol - no, I personally don't think that there are many foreign players that would regularly beat these players. Could they do it? Of course. Could they beat three of these players in a row, in a format even the best of the best Korean players say is a real nightmare, a format where Stats and Zest and countless others have struggled for multiple seasons? Where GSL champions regularly fail to advance?
No, I don't think so. Not with any consistency. The argument that "well, they could do it once!" holds no water when addressing an obviously hyperbolic statement. Most people that say Lilbow has no chance know that he has a chance, just that it is microscopic. And I tend to agree. If it took Stats over a year to make it out of Code B, I'll contently wait to be proven wrong before thinking Lilbow could match the feat and do it faster.
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On September 15 2015 03:35 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 02:48 Kofuku wrote:On September 15 2015 00:51 BigLove wrote:On September 14 2015 21:31 Liquid`Ret wrote:
I'm hoping lilbow doesn't read this thread. Awesome performance by him! He's a bit of an outsider for blizzcon but I think he can beat anybody What is the internet's obsession with people getting offended? Yes, good job Lilbow for winning WCS. No, not everyone is impressed by the way he won his matches (especially vs Hydra) Yes, many people think that he will get 3-0'd by a proper Korean (Life/Innovation/Zest/ etc) and that winning a "premier" tournament, when the only Koreans he beat were Jaedong, Hydra, and ForGG does not mean he's remotely Code S, or even Code A, level. People have opinions, get over it man. Let's look at some of the godlike players that had to be beaten on the path to qualifying for Code S this year: Maru > Impact and Shine Soulkey > Salvation, BBoongBBoong and Keen MMA > Guilty, Pet and Apocalypse Gumiho > Sleep and Billowy Dark > Kim Jeong-su (?), Miso and Symbol Just to be clear, are you saying that top foreigners would have had no chance at reaching "Code S level" by qualifying along those paths? (Not to mention that Code A is a single Bo5 and it's pretty well settled by now that top foreign players are able to take Bo5s off top Korean players.) It's interesting to note that BboongBboong made the Ro8 of a Dreamhack and was only beaten when he faced a Korean player. He scrapes the very bottom of the Korean scene yet outmatched most foreign players he faced overseas. As for Impact, Salvation, Keen, Guilty (maybe), Pet, Sleep, Billowy and Symbol - no, I personally don't think that there are many foreign players that would regularly beat these players. Could they do it? Of course. Could they beat three of these players in a row, in a format even the best of the best Korean players say is a real nightmare, a format where Stats and Zest and countless others have struggled for multiple seasons? Where GSL champions regularly fail to advance? No, I don't think so. Not with any consistency. The argument that "well, they could do it once!" holds no water when addressing an obviously hyperbolic statement. Most people that say Lilbow has no chance know that he has a chance, just that it is microscopic. And I tend to agree. If it took Stats over a year to make it out of Code B, I'll contently wait to be proven wrong before thinking Lilbow could match the feat and do it faster.
fair analysis, pretty much agree with everything
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On September 15 2015 03:35 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 02:48 Kofuku wrote:On September 15 2015 00:51 BigLove wrote:On September 14 2015 21:31 Liquid`Ret wrote:
I'm hoping lilbow doesn't read this thread. Awesome performance by him! He's a bit of an outsider for blizzcon but I think he can beat anybody What is the internet's obsession with people getting offended? Yes, good job Lilbow for winning WCS. No, not everyone is impressed by the way he won his matches (especially vs Hydra) Yes, many people think that he will get 3-0'd by a proper Korean (Life/Innovation/Zest/ etc) and that winning a "premier" tournament, when the only Koreans he beat were Jaedong, Hydra, and ForGG does not mean he's remotely Code S, or even Code A, level. People have opinions, get over it man. Let's look at some of the godlike players that had to be beaten on the path to qualifying for Code S this year: Maru > Impact and Shine Soulkey > Salvation, BBoongBBoong and Keen MMA > Guilty, Pet and Apocalypse Gumiho > Sleep and Billowy Dark > Kim Jeong-su (?), Miso and Symbol Just to be clear, are you saying that top foreigners would have had no chance at reaching "Code S level" by qualifying along those paths? (Not to mention that Code A is a single Bo5 and it's pretty well settled by now that top foreign players are able to take Bo5s off top Korean players.) It's interesting to note that BboongBboong made the Ro8 of a Dreamhack and was only beaten when he faced a Korean player. He scrapes the very bottom of the Korean scene yet outmatched most foreign players he faced overseas. As for Impact, Salvation, Keen, Guilty (maybe), Pet, Sleep, Billowy and Symbol - no, I personally don't think that there are many foreign players that would regularly beat these players. Could they do it? Of course. Could they beat three of these players in a row, in a format even the best of the best Korean players say is a real nightmare, a format where Stats and Zest and countless others have struggled for multiple seasons? Where GSL champions regularly fail to advance? No, I don't think so. Not with any consistency. The argument that "well, they could do it once!" holds no water when addressing an obviously hyperbolic statement. Most people that say Lilbow has no chance know that he has a chance, just that it is microscopic. And I tend to agree. If it took Stats over a year to make it out of Code B, I'll contently wait to be proven wrong before thinking Lilbow could match the feat and do it faster.
Okay, fair enough then - we disagree about the talent level. But my point was also that the terms "Code S level" or "Code A level" are actually not precise enough measures of skill to be very meaningful.
From my perspective, there are maybe a dozen or so consistently excellent players who regularly reach Code S who are truly the elite, and I think nobody would disagree that there are no foreign players among them (and to be clear, I'm not optimistic about Lilbow's Blizzcon chances).
Beneath them, though, there is a large pool of extraordinarily talented players who range from Code B to Code S that we'd all say are "Code S level" regardless of their actual current qualification status, whose talent is relatively close, and whose actual qualification depends hugely on how they perform on two days, bracket luck in qualifiers, matchup luck in Code A or ability to perform in a rough format. Stats is a good example; nobody would have said he was a worse player than PenguiN even after Season 1 qualification. But when I hear "Snute/Lilbow/popular koreigner is not Code S or Code A level" what I am hearing is that they do not even belong in that pool, which I think is incorrect; is that what you are saying? Or am I wrong about the talent division?
(Also, not that it's that important to your overall point, but I think it's worth mentioning that BBoongBBoong's Dreamhack Ro8 finish was against the weakest foreign player pool and I don't recall that he played against or beat any really "top foreign players" in his run  )
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On September 15 2015 04:31 Kofuku wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 03:35 Zealously wrote:On September 15 2015 02:48 Kofuku wrote:On September 15 2015 00:51 BigLove wrote:On September 14 2015 21:31 Liquid`Ret wrote:
I'm hoping lilbow doesn't read this thread. Awesome performance by him! He's a bit of an outsider for blizzcon but I think he can beat anybody What is the internet's obsession with people getting offended? Yes, good job Lilbow for winning WCS. No, not everyone is impressed by the way he won his matches (especially vs Hydra) Yes, many people think that he will get 3-0'd by a proper Korean (Life/Innovation/Zest/ etc) and that winning a "premier" tournament, when the only Koreans he beat were Jaedong, Hydra, and ForGG does not mean he's remotely Code S, or even Code A, level. People have opinions, get over it man. Let's look at some of the godlike players that had to be beaten on the path to qualifying for Code S this year: Maru > Impact and Shine Soulkey > Salvation, BBoongBBoong and Keen MMA > Guilty, Pet and Apocalypse Gumiho > Sleep and Billowy Dark > Kim Jeong-su (?), Miso and Symbol Just to be clear, are you saying that top foreigners would have had no chance at reaching "Code S level" by qualifying along those paths? (Not to mention that Code A is a single Bo5 and it's pretty well settled by now that top foreign players are able to take Bo5s off top Korean players.) It's interesting to note that BboongBboong made the Ro8 of a Dreamhack and was only beaten when he faced a Korean player. He scrapes the very bottom of the Korean scene yet outmatched most foreign players he faced overseas. As for Impact, Salvation, Keen, Guilty (maybe), Pet, Sleep, Billowy and Symbol - no, I personally don't think that there are many foreign players that would regularly beat these players. Could they do it? Of course. Could they beat three of these players in a row, in a format even the best of the best Korean players say is a real nightmare, a format where Stats and Zest and countless others have struggled for multiple seasons? Where GSL champions regularly fail to advance? No, I don't think so. Not with any consistency. The argument that "well, they could do it once!" holds no water when addressing an obviously hyperbolic statement. Most people that say Lilbow has no chance know that he has a chance, just that it is microscopic. And I tend to agree. If it took Stats over a year to make it out of Code B, I'll contently wait to be proven wrong before thinking Lilbow could match the feat and do it faster. Okay, fair enough then - we disagree about the talent level. But my point was also that the terms "Code S level" or "Code A level" are actually not precise enough measures of skill to be very meaningful. From my perspective, there are maybe a dozen or so consistently excellent players who regularly reach Code S who are truly the elite, and I think nobody would disagree that there are no foreign players among them (and to be clear, I'm not optimistic about Lilbow's Blizzcon chances). Beneath them, though, there is a large pool of extraordinarily talented players who range from Code B to Code S that we'd all say are "Code S level" regardless of their actual current qualification status, whose talent is relatively close, and whose actual qualification depends hugely on how they perform on two days, bracket luck in qualifiers, matchup luck in Code A or ability to perform in a rough format. Stats is a good example; nobody would have said he was a worse player than PenguiN even after Season 1 qualification. But when I hear "Snute/Lilbow/popular koreigner is not Code S or Code A level" what I am hearing is that they do not even belong in that pool, which I think is incorrect; is that what you are saying? Or am I wrong about the talent division? (Also, not that it's that important to your overall point, but I think it's worth mentioning that BBoongBBoong's Dreamhack Ro8 finish was against the weakest foreign player pool and I don't recall that he played against or beat any really "top foreign players" in his run )
I think that "not Code A/S level" means the player could not go over to Korea and qualify even if they wanted to.
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On September 15 2015 03:35 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 02:48 Kofuku wrote:On September 15 2015 00:51 BigLove wrote:On September 14 2015 21:31 Liquid`Ret wrote:
I'm hoping lilbow doesn't read this thread. Awesome performance by him! He's a bit of an outsider for blizzcon but I think he can beat anybody What is the internet's obsession with people getting offended? Yes, good job Lilbow for winning WCS. No, not everyone is impressed by the way he won his matches (especially vs Hydra) Yes, many people think that he will get 3-0'd by a proper Korean (Life/Innovation/Zest/ etc) and that winning a "premier" tournament, when the only Koreans he beat were Jaedong, Hydra, and ForGG does not mean he's remotely Code S, or even Code A, level. People have opinions, get over it man. Let's look at some of the godlike players that had to be beaten on the path to qualifying for Code S this year: Maru > Impact and Shine Soulkey > Salvation, BBoongBBoong and Keen MMA > Guilty, Pet and Apocalypse Gumiho > Sleep and Billowy Dark > Kim Jeong-su (?), Miso and Symbol Just to be clear, are you saying that top foreigners would have had no chance at reaching "Code S level" by qualifying along those paths? (Not to mention that Code A is a single Bo5 and it's pretty well settled by now that top foreign players are able to take Bo5s off top Korean players.) It's interesting to note that BboongBboong made the Ro8 of a Dreamhack and was only beaten when he faced a Korean player. He scrapes the very bottom of the Korean scene yet outmatched most foreign players he faced overseas. As for Impact, Salvation, Keen, Guilty (maybe), Pet, Sleep, Billowy and Symbol - no, I personally don't think that there are many foreign players that would regularly beat these players. Could they do it? Of course. Could they beat three of these players in a row, in a format even the best of the best Korean players say is a real nightmare, a format where Stats and Zest and countless others have struggled for multiple seasons? Where GSL champions regularly fail to advance? No, I don't think so. Not with any consistency. The argument that "well, they could do it once!" holds no water when addressing an obviously hyperbolic statement. Most people that say Lilbow has no chance know that he has a chance, just that it is microscopic. And I tend to agree. If it took Stats over a year to make it out of Code B, I'll contently wait to be proven wrong before thinking Lilbow could match the feat and do it faster.
The wonderful thing about obviously hyperbolic statements is that you can use them as normal statements to spout nonsense.
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On September 15 2015 01:42 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 01:12 showstealer1829 wrote:On September 15 2015 00:51 BigLove wrote:On September 14 2015 21:31 Liquid`Ret wrote:
I'm hoping lilbow doesn't read this thread. Awesome performance by him! He's a bit of an outsider for blizzcon but I think he can beat anybody What is the internet's obsession with people getting offended? Yes, good job Lilbow for winning WCS. No, not everyone is impressed by the way he won his matches (especially vs Hydra)Yes, many people think that he will get 3-0'd by a proper Korean (Life/Innovation/Zest/ etc) and that winning a "premier" tournament, when the only Koreans he beat were Jaedong, Hydra, and ForGG does not mean he's remotely Code S, or even Code A, level. People have opinions, get over it man. Exactly that. I don't get mad at anyone for supporting Lilbow, good on him for winning. but forgive me if I don't find a 6 game finals series of "Who can throw the hardest?" entertaining You must be out of your mind to say you didn't enjoy that final
2 exciting games (2nd and 4th) out of 6 does not amazing series make. You have to be pretty blinded by the "woo foreigner finals" hype if you think everybody should also think that was a great finals.
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On September 15 2015 05:07 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 01:42 mderg wrote:On September 15 2015 01:12 showstealer1829 wrote:On September 15 2015 00:51 BigLove wrote:On September 14 2015 21:31 Liquid`Ret wrote:
I'm hoping lilbow doesn't read this thread. Awesome performance by him! He's a bit of an outsider for blizzcon but I think he can beat anybody What is the internet's obsession with people getting offended? Yes, good job Lilbow for winning WCS. No, not everyone is impressed by the way he won his matches (especially vs Hydra)Yes, many people think that he will get 3-0'd by a proper Korean (Life/Innovation/Zest/ etc) and that winning a "premier" tournament, when the only Koreans he beat were Jaedong, Hydra, and ForGG does not mean he's remotely Code S, or even Code A, level. People have opinions, get over it man. Exactly that. I don't get mad at anyone for supporting Lilbow, good on him for winning. but forgive me if I don't find a 6 game finals series of "Who can throw the hardest?" entertaining You must be out of your mind to say you didn't enjoy that final 2 exciting games (2nd and 4th) out of 6 does not amazing series make. You have to be pretty blinded by the "woo foreigner finals" hype if you think everybody should also think that was a great finals.
It was an exciting finals that ended poorly. I agree that it wasn't "great", though.
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On September 15 2015 01:54 WrathSCII wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 01:42 mderg wrote:On September 15 2015 01:12 showstealer1829 wrote:On September 15 2015 00:51 BigLove wrote:On September 14 2015 21:31 Liquid`Ret wrote:
I'm hoping lilbow doesn't read this thread. Awesome performance by him! He's a bit of an outsider for blizzcon but I think he can beat anybody What is the internet's obsession with people getting offended? Yes, good job Lilbow for winning WCS. No, not everyone is impressed by the way he won his matches (especially vs Hydra)Yes, many people think that he will get 3-0'd by a proper Korean (Life/Innovation/Zest/ etc) and that winning a "premier" tournament, when the only Koreans he beat were Jaedong, Hydra, and ForGG does not mean he's remotely Code S, or even Code A, level. People have opinions, get over it man. Exactly that. I don't get mad at anyone for supporting Lilbow, good on him for winning. but forgive me if I don't find a 6 game finals series of "Who can throw the hardest?" entertaining You must be out of your mind to say you didn't enjoy that final OMG HOW DARE HE NOT ENJOY THE FINALS THAT WAS PVP BLINK STALKERS VS BLINK STALKERS?! MUST BE ELITEST KOREAN ANTI FOREIGNER!!!
I don't see how any StarCraft fan could dislike the Coda game.
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On September 15 2015 05:08 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 05:07 D-light wrote:On September 15 2015 01:42 mderg wrote:On September 15 2015 01:12 showstealer1829 wrote:On September 15 2015 00:51 BigLove wrote:On September 14 2015 21:31 Liquid`Ret wrote:
I'm hoping lilbow doesn't read this thread. Awesome performance by him! He's a bit of an outsider for blizzcon but I think he can beat anybody What is the internet's obsession with people getting offended? Yes, good job Lilbow for winning WCS. No, not everyone is impressed by the way he won his matches (especially vs Hydra)Yes, many people think that he will get 3-0'd by a proper Korean (Life/Innovation/Zest/ etc) and that winning a "premier" tournament, when the only Koreans he beat were Jaedong, Hydra, and ForGG does not mean he's remotely Code S, or even Code A, level. People have opinions, get over it man. Exactly that. I don't get mad at anyone for supporting Lilbow, good on him for winning. but forgive me if I don't find a 6 game finals series of "Who can throw the hardest?" entertaining You must be out of your mind to say you didn't enjoy that final 2 exciting games (2nd and 4th) out of 6 does not amazing series make. You have to be pretty blinded by the "woo foreigner finals" hype if you think everybody should also think that was a great finals. It was an exciting finals that ended poorly. I agree that it wasn't "great", though.
...but people who weren't just "woo foreigners" likely can't get much out of a series with so many meh games. And it wasn't just the ending of it even if people were more hyped up in the beginning.
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